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RE: The Sarah Connor Chronicles - 17/9/2007 1:00:52 AM

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Loved it.

Tonally far more in keeping with the first two films than the third, which is no bad thing.

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RE: The Sarah Connor Chronicles - 13/1/2008 12:25:12 PM

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The first episode is on tonight, for everyone interested. The second (in its usual timeslot) is tomorrow. I believe it's pretty much the same as that episode that was leaked a while back; even the school scene is left intact.

The fifth episode is called 'The Demon Hand', so I imagine Harlin Ellison is on the phone to his legal team (again) as I type.

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RE: The Sarah Connor Chronicles - 15/1/2008 12:55:35 AM

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Just watched the first episode and I really liked it. Great casting for Sarah Connor, and John ain't too bad either (although in T2 he was more of a rebel) but surely Summer Glau is gonna be the true star of the show? Great to see her back on our screens post-Firefly. Didn't like the Terminator much, but maybe I'm having a hard time with it not being Arnie. I'm open to other Terminators but this one just seemed a bit over the top.

Loving where the story is potentially going... I wonder if we'll ever get a Kyle Reese cameo with Michael Biehn? God knows he needs the work.

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RE: The Sarah Connor Chronicles - 15/1/2008 10:59:01 AM

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Does anyone know when it starts on Virgin1. The advert was shown during Blade last night but it didn't mention a start date.

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Shows promise - 15/1/2008 4:14:19 PM

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Having hated Terminator 3, I was very skeptical about the prospect of a Terminator TV series. The story was wrapped up neatly (as neatly as paradoxical time travel stories can be) at the end of Terminator 2, so why, I thought, keep going?

I've seen the pilot episode and I must confess that I really enjoyed it.

There are, of course a few niggles. Firstly, the timeline. I had thought that T2 took place sometime around 1995 so it bugged my that the pilot puts the events of T2 as taking place in 1997. Minor issue though.

Also, having disliked T3 so much due to the fact that it made T2 null and void if the war happens anyway, I felt a bit cheated that that is also the premise of the series. There's a limit to how original it can be if the overall quest is to find Skynet's new creator and destroy it. Surely it will be an endless cycle of 'Terminator arrives to kill John. They run. They kill the Terminator. Terminator arrives to kill John...'

That said, It is a wonderful premise though with lots of potential for action and to write it off as only that may be to write it off before it's had a chance to prove itself.

***Some spoilers ahead.***

I thought that the new John and Sarah Connor were good and I like the idea of a female Terminator (Cameron, arf, arf!) as their protector. The new bad Terminator was pretty decent too. Certainly no worse than Arnie and at least he's about the age Arnie must have been in T1. It's certainly more credible to have a young beefcake Terminator than one that ages and gets a bit more soft with each installment. And thank god they haven't put Arnie in this series (yet) and I hope that they don't.

There were lots of little references in the dialogue to T1 and 2 so it seems that the makers of this series are trying to align it with James Cameron's original vision which is no bad thing. They could have done without the visit to Dyson's wife as this served no real purpose for the plot, other than to again link back to T2. I hope that the rest of the series doesn't feature cameos from the likes of Dr. Silberman (something that really grated in T3) or the bikers from the bar.

The school shoot out was the only major set piece and it was well executed and entertaining, if not exactly the most original thing in the world. I suppose a TV budget means that we can't have the likes of the freeway chases from T2 or 3.

So, I think the series has potential. Now that they have travelled forward in time to 2007 it will be interesting to see where it goes and if the writers can create a really decent spin-off to the original two films.

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RE: Shows promise - 15/1/2008 7:01:12 PM

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Second episode was good. That's one persistant Terminator!

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RE: Terminator: SCC -- Shows promise - 15/1/2008 9:07:05 PM

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That's right - it will not stop! Ever!

Not a bad second episode. The recasting of the boyfriend threw me a bit though as I didn't bother rewatching the pilot. There was a good sense of atmosphere and it was pretty well paced considering not an awful lot actually happened. I think Headey's really good and I liked how the dealt with the passing of time (i.e. referencing things without being too heavy handed). Most importantly, it looks as though they should be able to have an on-going story that isn't too terminator-of-the-week, while still cramming in a few action scenes.

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RE: Terminator: SCC -- Shows promise - 16/1/2008 7:16:36 PM

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Apparently a signifcant drop in the ratings between the first and second episodes. There has been a drop of over 45% following the record breaking pilot. There was a drop from 18m viewers to under 10m which is still a respectable sum (and it is still a better sum than Bionic Woman which has lost over 75% of the audience share).

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RE: Terminator: SCC -- Shows promise - 16/1/2008 7:58:26 PM

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To be fair though, the original figure was following an NFL playoff game, which would have given the ratings an artificial boost, so the dropoff won't have been quite as extreme as may first appear. Much more telling will be the difference to next week, of course.

10M is probably pretty solid. Prison Break gets around 7 at present; 24 somewhere between 12-14. Fox is in a really odd position in that it's got a few monster shows like American Idol and House, but not much else; consequently it's actually one of the better networks for letting on the bubble shows hang around (certainly better than CBS or ABC). It's only if you're dead in the water that you get shitcanned early. The strike will work in its favour this year too.

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RE: Sarah Connor Chronicles - Footage - 17/1/2008 10:25:49 AM

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Jesus christ! after seeing the trailer for this show on youtube,i hope it gets canceled quickly.

Terminator 1 and 2 were classics
thought the tv show would be bad, but I checked it out and it was very enjoyable.

This series is many times better than T-3, and I think the Fx are better also. The only thing good about T-3 were Arnies one liners and the car chase, everything else in that movie sucked. Sarah Connor Chronicles is a good show, it looks to be transition between the events of T2 and T3, I was very impressed with the pilot

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RE: Sarah Connor Chronicles - Footage - 17/1/2008 11:35:17 PM

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Just saw the first episode and it wasn't too bad. There were some decent effects and a couple of nice moments, like the T-800 with the gun hidden in his thigh. It's never going to touch the movies (well maybe no 3) but it could be am entertaining enough series

One thing that just didn't sit right though is that Lena Heady is clearly too young to be the mother of the guy playing John. You could buy her as an older sister or maybe an aunt, but his mum? She can only be about 12 or so years older at the most

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RE: Sarah Connor Chronicles - Footage - 18/1/2008 12:12:06 AM

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I quite liked this too, better than I was expecting anyway. Sarah's narration is a bit ponderous but it'll probably tail off in a similar way to Heroes after they run out of things to say

I was kind of hoping they'd paint the female Terminator as amoral, only "good" in terms of wanting to protect the hero. Revealing "El Finito" to be an informer after all dampened the point of her shooting the guy without compunction, but it's early days.

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RE: Sarah Connor Chronicles - Footage - 19/1/2008 11:19:01 AM

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The Resistance seem to be sending people back ad nauseum now - FOUR fighters?! Makes you think Connor should have sent back a platoon to protect his mother than the lone Kyle Reese. How many time machines do they have in the future. It must have taken ages to plan all this.

Still, not complaining - it's enjoyable enough. Curious about where it's going to go though.

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RE: Sarah Connor Chronicles - Footage - 19/1/2008 11:37:16 AM

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I think they just have to take a few liberties with it being an ongoing tv series. For a two hour film its fperfect to just send one person back but if this is going to last as long as the producers want it to then there are going to have to be some changes made, although I do agree it does seem rather strange. Just gotta view this as a completely seperate entity to the films.

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RE: Sarah Connor Chronicles - Footage - 21/1/2008 10:26:18 AM

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What day does this air then, I was expecting a download this morning!

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RE: Sarah Connor Chronicles - Footage - 21/1/2008 10:42:13 AM

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Next episode's due on tonight so you should be able to get it tomorrow

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RE: Sarah Connor Chronicles - Footage - 23/1/2008 11:34:23 AM

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Anybody watch the third episode? It was quite good, nice to see they can do an episode without any action which means we can get some varied episodes.

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RE: Sarah Connor Chronicles - Footage - 23/1/2008 12:40:57 PM

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Tried to get the 3rd ep last night. Took 5 hours or so and when I tried to watch it I just got some bullshit message saying "content blocked" and telling me to go to some dodgy site to download thier player - and a shitload of viruses/spyware no doubt.

Will try again tonight - using a different source obviously.

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RE: Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles - 23/1/2008 12:46:38 PM

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Episode 3 spoilers.....

Again, not bad. I'm consistently interested in where they're taking rather than excited watching it, but there's lots of good stuff. The cold open with the dream sequence, the Terminator subplot where he regrows his skin. Quite impressed that the jumper actually jumped too (and the fact that some of the crowd were convincing her to do it; that seemed pretty likely), and there was some nice dry humour in it. I was surprised at how much blood there was in the episode too, they must have been really pushing the limits on what's acceptable on network telly.

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RE: Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles - 23/1/2008 11:29:43 PM

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possible spoilers

Worked this time, thankfully.

Another actually pretty decent episode, with a nicely grim core running through it. I reckon if we just take the show on its own merits and avoid comparisons to the films it could be worth seeing through to the end. I'm interested to see how the plot thread with the resistance guy is going to play out - I thought he was maybe going to kill Andy.

Still not buying the central relationship though - they're just too close in age.

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RE: The Sarah Connor Chronicles - 23/1/2008 11:54:28 PM

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Really enjoying the series so far. My only real complaint is the Terminator. In the pilot she seemed intelligent and able to blend in, but now she just seems to get dumber each episode. In the pilot I remember her flirting and joking with John Connor when he started school. She even knew about slang because she said "sucks to be you" when he told her he was new in school. Plus if she wasn't also new to school doesn't that mean thats she been waiting and blending in for some time before meeting John and Sarah? Why does she have so much trouble blending in now. Or the more positive side both her and Sarah are hot. So thats good. And Terminator growing new skin was awesome.

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RE: The Sarah Connor Chronicles - 24/1/2008 12:20:58 AM

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Does anyone know when it starts on Virgin1. The advert was shown during Blade last night but it didn't mention a start date.

Thursday 21st Feb at 10pm apparently.

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RE: The Sarah Connor Chronicles - 25/1/2008 12:47:11 AM

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Watched all 3 episodes and so far im enjoying it.Eager to see how it continues its life as a series.

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RE: The Sarah Connor Chronicles - 26/1/2008 11:32:07 AM

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Not bad, not bad at all. This show is starting to show some potiential. Good action sequences and a story arc that is independant of the films. I particularly liked the third episode.

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RE: The Sarah Connor Chronicles - 29/1/2008 8:53:55 AM

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I'm confused, does this air on mondays?

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RE: The Sarah Connor Chronicles - 29/1/2008 12:54:52 PM

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It does, but no episode last night due to the State of the Union Address.

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RE: The Sarah Connor Chronicles - 30/1/2008 1:38:56 AM

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Just watched the first ep (pilot) and I have to say I thought it was pretty rubbish. Just a rehash of the first two movies and it looked like whoever directed it went "you know what was cool in T1/T2(delete as applicable)?" and threw it at the screen. Yet again we have John Connor hunted by one Terminator, protected by another as in T2. But what more were we to expect? Ok ok. How about actors who can, you know, act? Lena Headey is terrible, just terrible. She has two faces: Scowl and SCOWL. She over pronounces every line and looks constipated with the importance of it all most of the time. Compared to Linda Hamilton's Sarah she is extremely lacking. John Connor is a teenager, no real stretch for any twenty something Hollywood actor, it's all about the scowl, they like scowling in this show. On the other hand Summer Glau is very hot.
And we're time travelling already? Ho hum.
**spoilers for ep 1**

So they sent an engineer back in time to create a what, emergency time machine in a bank vault, complete with a Terminator, um, terminator gun. Fancy. Why not send same engineer back in time to kill... Blah blah blah, time travel waffle, paradox etc etc
And all of a sudden they're in 2007 where the unknown (how exactly is the person who created skynet unknown?? I guess we'll find out...) is about to create the aforementioned fluffy cuddly harbinger of the apocalypse and destroyer of mankind etc etc.

**end of spoilers for ep 1**

Ok so I could go on but colour me extremely underwhelmed and wondering exactly what the point of this IMO completely superfluous show is, besides making money for FOX who will probably cancel it fairly soonish anyway.

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RE: The Sarah Connor Chronicles - 30/1/2008 1:55:42 PM

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Watched ep 2 and while the same faults are still in evidence it did get marginally better, here's hoping it picks up more from here.

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RE: The Sarah Connor Chronicles - 30/1/2008 4:46:15 PM

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ORIGINAL: benmharper

Does anyone know when it starts on Virgin1. The advert was shown during Blade last night but it didn't mention a start date.

Thursday 21st Feb at 10pm apparently.

Thank you. I won't bother downloading if its that soon. Cheers

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RE: The Sarah Connor Chronicles - 31/1/2008 12:04:21 PM

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It's non too shabby in all honesty, a darn sight better than I was expecting at least. Some of the first episode came across as incredibly naff, not even the big man himself could of got away with saying "Class Dismissed!" back in the day. From there on in it's begun to find it's feet however, I especially liked the last episode. Worth watching I'd say.

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