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Future Jack Ryan Films - 9/11/2005 3:21:49 PM   
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After Ben Affleck ruinned his professional career by starring in Pearl Harbor, he ruined it again by dating J-Lo. After all his tabloid shinanigans and lack of box office pull, Paramount are apparantly reluctant about bringing him back as Jack Ryan. Which is a shame, as he did a good job........

Last i heard, they were adapting RED RABBIT for the screen, where Ryan discovers the pope's life is in danger........
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RE: Future Jack Ryan Films - 18/1/2006 9:19:00 PM   
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Looks like Sarxos is right on the money!

According to The Hollywood Reporter, John Singleton has signed on to adapt and direct the Tom Clancy espionage thriller "Without Remorse" for Paramount Pictures. The film, which Paramount envisions as part of a possible franchise, marks the Hollywood return of Michael Ovitz, who will serve as producer.
"Without Remorse" centers on former Navy SEAL and CIA operative John Kelly, code-named Mr. Clark, who first appeared in "Clear and Present Danger" (played by Willem Dafoe). The novel, which was published in 1993 by Putnam, spawned a previous film version, which was in development at Savoy Pictures and was shut down during preproduction in 1995.
Singleton said he aims to make the film in line with the Phillip Noyce-helmed Clancy thrillers he is a fan of, "Clear and Present Danger" and "Patriot Games."
Singleton said he is looking to cast a young and athletic actor who can grow with the picture.
 
Personally i hope they keep Liev Schreiber as Clark but why do i get the sneaking suspicion that Singleton will cast someone like Mark Whalberg or Paul Walker??

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RE: Future Jack Ryan Films - 18/1/2006 9:25:50 PM   
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Affleck was awful as Ryan. Come to think of it - he is awful full stop.

The Sum Of All Fears was a horrible bastardisation of the excellent book in order not to offend Muslims - so transparent it hurt.

A new Ryan is needed.




Hey, Affleck ain't that bad! He was cool in the K.Smith films. And did a great job along with Matt in Good Will Hunting. Although understandable how he might not be your favorite.

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RE: Future Jack Ryan Films - 18/1/2006 9:29:03 PM   
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I for one thought he was very good in the role of Ryan.

He played the young Jack very well displaying the right amount of confidence and pure ignorance about politics. I would have really like to see him continue in the role and the franchise but i can't see it happening until he proves himself as a box office draw.

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RE: Future Jack Ryan Films - 27/1/2006 11:00:41 PM   
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Without Remorse is the book to adapt, though I think that it could be up dated from post Vietnam veteran to post Gulf War veteran hunting down drug dealers, the rest of the story can be kept.
John Kelly/Clark need someone convincing as a special forces soldier, big and imposing, late 20's/early 30's from what I remember. Possibly Hugh Jackman, Eric Bana?


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RE: Future Jack Ryan Films - 10/3/2006 10:16:13 PM   
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I thought Liev Schrieber did well enough in the role so i say keep him on........

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RE: Future Jack Ryan Films - 11/3/2006 7:27:01 PM   
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I'm with Timon an all counts. It's easy to knock Affleck, and even though he has appeared in some shit, and quite often been shit himself, I actually thought he did a decent job in Sum Of All Fears. I say give him another chance. That's if he wants it, I was under the impression he didn't want to do actiony type films anymore. And I really liked Liev Schreiber as Clark.
BTW, I just picked up the SE boxset of all 4 films for £10.99 on Sendit.com - what a freakin' bargain.

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RE: Future Jack Ryan Films - 13/3/2006 1:00:51 PM   
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The problem with the Jack Ryan franchise is that, after Without Remorse, it'll have to skip books because there isn't a chance in  hell any studio would make Debt of honour and, as a result, Executive Orders simply because of the ending of Debt of Honour (undoubtedly one of the best endings to a thriller ever, but rules it out from getting made thanks to 9/11).

If 9/11 destroyed anything, it destroyed Jack Ryan. Still, I hope I'm wrong, it would be an amazing sight to see a studio have the balls to put A plane flying into the US Capitol on screen.

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RE: Future Jack Ryan Films - 11/4/2006 8:35:32 PM   
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Apparantly Stuart Beattie who wrote Collateral is scripting Without Remorse as well as Clancy's Splinter Cell.

I agree with Timomouse that it would take a studio with balls the size of boulders to adapt Debt Of Honour where the finale is rather shocking to say the least and would no doubt not go down well in post 9/11 America.

Still, i'm sure some creative writing can find another way of making Ryan president.

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RE: Future Jack Ryan Films - 26/6/2006 11:29:12 PM   
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With Paramount Pictures still shedding pieces of its old skin, some high profile projects are being left by the wayside. In an article in The Hollywood Reporter the other day, one major franchise looks like its been put on hold for a while.

"Paramount allowed two big-budget
Tom Clancy projects to slip away when it put "Without Remorse," which had John Singleton on board to direct, and "Rainbow Six" into turnaround. The studio still plans to restart Clancy's Jack Ryan franchise with a younger, new star, though. The move likely cost Paramount its relationship with Singleton, who promptly signed a five-picture domestic distribution deal with Universal".

At last report
Oscar nominee Joaquin Phoenix was attached to take on the role of John Clark in 'Remorse'. To date the four film adaptations of Clancy's Jack Ryan series ("The Hunt for Red October", "Patriot Games", "Clear and Present Danger", "The Sum of All Fears") have been one of the studios more consistent if relatively modest performers. With budgets ranging from $30-60 million, each of the films has yielded around $200 million in worldwide revenue for the studio.

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RE: Future Jack Ryan Films - 18/5/2007 9:50:47 AM   
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Relativity Media unveiled Thursday its Festival de Cannes presale lineup, which includes a Tom Clancy franchise with Michael Ovitz as producer and a Scarlett Johansson period epic, says The Hollywood Reporter.

The Los Angeles-based company has acquired the rights to produce Clancy's best-selling novel Without Remorse and is eyeing a start date early next year. The project, which marks the Hollywood return of Ovitz, most recently was set up at Paramount Pictures, with John Singleton attached to direct. Relativity is out to directors on the current incarnation.

Written by Stuart Beattie (Collateral), "Remorse" centers on former Navy SEAL and CIA operative John Kelly, code-named Mr. Clark, who first appeared in 1994's Clear and Present Danger (played by Willem Dafoe). Liev Schreiber also played the character in 2002's The Sum of All Fears.

Relativity also secured the rights to two follow-up novels, including Rainbow Six.



Does this mean the franchise may be revived asap? Could we being getting a Rainbow Six film soon?

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RE: Future Jack Ryan Films - 30/10/2008 2:38:53 PM   
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What's going on with the Ryan franchise these days?! There's new rumours every couple of months. Last I heard, the director of City of God was going to direct and Ryan Gosling was going to be Jack Ryan.

EDIT: Oh wait, I just found this;

Two-Face Sees 'Clear and Present Danger?'
Eckhart Rumored for Jack Ryan Reboot
News about Tom Clancy's Jack Ryan film franchise has unfolded faster than one of the author's fictional terrorist plots. First came word that Sam Raimi was dropping out of the planned Ryan relaunch, then a report that the film was still a go ahead despite the director's departure. Now, Moviehole reports that The Dark Knight star Aaron Eckhart is being tapped to take over the spy franchise.

"Harrison Ford apparently won’t be getting another look in as Jack Ryan," says the site. "We’re told since this is a complete reboot of the series the studio wants someone new to play the literary hero.

"Rumored to be among the names on that wish list is Aaron Eckhart."

Moviehole states that while no offers have been made, Eckhart is "a name that keeps popping up in relation to the part of Ryan, so someone over [at Paramount] obviously likes him."

Things have been good for Aaron Eckart lately. His role as ill-fated District Attorney Harvey Dent in The Dark Knight launched the actor to world renown status. Before that, his performance as tobacco proponent Nick Naylor in Thank You For Smoking gained critical acclaim across the board, as has his work in Bill as a reluctant mentor to a rebellious teen.

Eckhart is not the only name attached to Jack Ryan. In addition to Harrison Ford, who previously played the role but is no longer considered in the running, there's the oft mentioned Ryan Gosling. Gosling was attached to play Ryan around the same time that Raimi was on board, but no official movement occurred in either direction. Funnily enough, Gosling's name is listed on the Jack Ryan Wikipedia page.

"It was reported on January 21, 2008, by the Empire official website and Moviehole, that a new reboot of the Jack Ryan franchise will take place in the near future, featuring Ryan Gosling in the title role," reports Wikipedia.



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RE: Future Jack Ryan Films - 30/10/2008 3:31:20 PM   
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I know Ford wasn't quite as the liteary Ryan - though I did Like his interpretation - Eckhart doesn't seem quite right for the part in a reboot. I could be wrong though.

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RE: Future Jack Ryan Films - 19/12/2008 6:16:32 PM   
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Christ, another day, another reboot, another writer...
 
It’s been a while since we heard any concrete news about Paramount and Sam Raimi’s revamp of the Jack Ryan franchise, but today brought several bags of cement’s worth.
First of all, it’s now just Paramount’s revamp of the Jack Ryan franchise – Raimi has left the project due to a heavy workload, including completing his new movie, Drag Me To Hell and starting work on Spider-Man 4.
Also, a writer has been hired to give Ryan the Batman Begins/Casino Royale reboot treatment.
Hossein Amini, who has written movies as diverse as The Four Feathers, the still-delayed Killshot and Shanghai, has been brought on board by producers Mace Neufeld and Lorenzo di Bonaventura with the brief to write a Ryan origin tale that will have little or nothing to do with Tom Clancy’s novels.
The new movie will obviously involve a new Jack Ryan – the fourth after Alec Baldwin, Harrison Ford and Ben Affleck - and we reckon that Paramount will want to go with a big name. After all, while the Ryan franchise has been lucrative, it’s not a name that carries the instant appeal of a Batman or a Bond.
 
I really don't want them to reboot it again, I really liked what they did with The Sum Of All Fears and to reboot it again just seems like a waste of time. Either bring back Ford and have an elder Ryan deal with the Debt of Honour-Executive Orders-Bear and the Dragon emergencies or start a Clarke franchise!
 
Everyone seems to want to see Without Remorse so do that... and then go on to Rainbow Six! Now EVERYONE would want to see a Rainbow Six film.


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RE: Future Jack Ryan Films - 16/3/2009 6:05:24 AM   
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Isn't Gosling a little young? I though Ben Affleck did a good job in The Sum of All Fears, I really enjoyed that film. Hopefully Affleck will get his career back on track (in front of the camera) with State of Play alongside Russell Crowe and Helen Mirren.

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RE: Future Jack Ryan Films - 16/3/2009 11:27:16 AM   
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Watched Patriot Games the other night. Still my favourite one.

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RE: Future Jack Ryan Films - 14/10/2009 12:41:34 PM   
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http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/a181944/chris-pine-linked-to-jack-ryan-reboot.html?imdb

Pine is going to be spreading himself a bit thin if he takes on another franchise, especially if Paramount want to roll this out asap.


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RE: Future Jack Ryan Films - 14/10/2009 12:59:15 PM   
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Mild SPOILER for Rainbow Six Book

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Everyone seems to want to see Without Remorse so do that... and then go on to Rainbow Six! Now EVERYONE would want to see a Rainbow Six film.



I'm with you there on R6, Timon.....  Love the chapter Marathon in the book and the scenes leading up to Popov meeting Clark at the end and the fear Popov has when he calls Clark Tovarisch (comrade in Russian)



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RE: Future Jack Ryan Films - 14/10/2009 1:35:52 PM   
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Ol' pumpkin head needs to keep to directing in my opinion, his little brother received all the acting talent in that family. Gone baby gone was a very good effort, especially for a novice director.

Harrison will never be bettered in the role of JR, the way he could infuse a photocopying scene with suspense was just beautiful.

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RE: Future Jack Ryan Films - 14/10/2009 2:55:02 PM   
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Seems like quite a strange move to go ahead with another Ryan film not basing it on one of the novels - I haven't actually read any of them but do any focus on Ryan when he's Chris Pine's age group? Maybe they'll just composite storylines from different books into a screen outing for a younger actor.

Then again isn't that what happened with The Sum of All Fears? From what I can remember the original script for that film was supposed to be another sequel starring Harrison Ford but he wasn't interested in it so Paramount decided to reshape for a younger lead and reboot the series.

Been a while since I've seen it but I thought TSOAF was pretty good, not an Affleck fan generally but thought he was fine (if kind of bland) as Ryan. Then again maybe too much emphasis is being put on the word reboot for this new film - it may just work out to be a sequel to TSOAF but with a total recast, much like what happened with Patriot Games when they went ahead without Alec Baldwin. It was a sequel but didn't really reference the previous film as far as I remember and the character was tweaked a bit to match the new lead actor.

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RE: Future Jack Ryan Films - 16/10/2009 12:39:11 AM   
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Quit knocking Ben Affleck! Exclamation pointed added for emphasis. He's not an awful actor. I'd sooner watch him in anything than have to suffer through Hayden Christianson. talking. like. a. robot. for. two. hours. Affleck got the short stick because Damon is just more talented. Look at the directors each has worked with and you'll see where Ben's career went awry.

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RE: Future Jack Ryan Films - 16/10/2009 2:18:37 AM   
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Yeah Marwood, that is what happened with Sum of All Fears. Chronologically it takes place after the other films (for the record Patriot Games is before Hunt for Red October). In the book Ryan is a father of three with a rocky marriage. He was dissuaded with government protocol. And battled alchohal. Oh yeah and he had a high level position in the CIA as opposed to an analyst. In other words it was perfect for Harrison Ford at the time.

For my money it may well have been the best of Clancy's books. But the change of Ryan in addition to changing from Islamic extremists to neo fascists really hurt its credibility. Ryan did not come off as bellevable. And the motivation, not to mention abilities, of the neo fascists was not nearly as plausible.

And now they are making him even younger. What's he going to be this time? A PA intern who makes coffee runs?



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RE: Future Jack Ryan Films - 16/10/2009 10:46:24 AM   
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That's what I was concerned with concerning Pine's casting - we've already been through a story introducing young Ryan and plucking him from his analystic duties into more shady and active duty. If Paramount take that route again with the new film then I can't really see the point, hence why not just make this a sequel to Sum of All Fears in their most recent cinematic chronology?

It would make more sense to me for them to take the Bond route in a sense and have him as a fully formed character off on a new adventure but just changing some details to fit the new lead (the current Bond films aside of course as they've been tailored to act as more of a reboot to that universe). Like the Bond films of old it doesn't even have to tie into Sum of All Fears much, just a line or two of dialogue that references Ryan's actions from that film to clarify for audiences that it's part of the same chronology.

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RE: Future Jack Ryan Films - 16/10/2009 3:58:29 PM   
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Yeah, it doesn't make much sense. The only thing I can think of, is that on the heels of Star Trek, Pine has become Paramount's "Golden boy". The problem is that despite nearing 30 his baby face and persona make him come off as significantly younger then his age.

This series has already gone through several incarnations. And has seen three different Jack Ryans. Like you said, just quickly alluding to the last film is all thats would be needed. And really, you don't actually have to even do that much. Just adapt one of Clancy terrific novels with Ryan as he is on page. And have him played by someone like Mr. Caviezel.

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RE: Future Jack Ryan Films - 13/7/2010 12:38:29 PM   
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Pine to take on Ryan before returning to Kirk
Last October it was announced that Paramount was bringing back the Jack Ryan franchise and had chosen Chris Pine to be the fourth actor to take on the role and the first since 2002’s The Sum of All Fears. Now in a new interview with Collider, producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura provides a quick update on the project, confirming the title Moscow, and giving an update on the timing:
we’re hoping to get Jack Ryan off the ground with Chris Pine and that’s really exciting. … We have a very good script. I think it’s…I’m very happy with where we are today and we’re looking forward to…maybe with a little luck starting next late winter/early spring.
So it looks like Pine could spend a few months dealing with international intrigue and espionage and then transition back to the final frontier, as the Star Trek sequel goes into production early next summer.

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RE: Future Jack Ryan Films - 2/9/2012 5:07:54 PM   
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just checking out the new pics - had no idea this was filming already. so this is another Bond like reboot like Sun of All Fears was isnt it (does that make it the first 'double reboot?' - Bond has only been done once as has Batman...wait - no its Planet of the Apes) but it'll probably explain/expand on stuff that was mentioned in the previous Ryan movies setting it present day (in that way maybe similar to Trek09 - the Kobashi Maru test etc). checking imdb i notice Costner was originally cast as Ryan in Hunt for Red October so funny he's the mentor figure in this.

talking of Trek and new Kirk as Ryan - i thinks theres always been abit of a Trek connection with the Ryan movies:

Hunt for Red October seemed to influence Star Trek VI a year later, Dr Crusher was Ryans wife and USS Entrerprise was in it too.....James Horner scored the 2nd and 3rd films in the series (like Star Trek) with Treks Jerry Goldsmith scoring the next one..plus Zephram Cochrene turned up as the president in SOAF


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RE: Future Jack Ryan Films - 2/9/2012 8:52:25 PM   
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As far as im aware (ive only read Patriot Games and seen some of the other films- all really entertaining) Jack Ryan isnt made out to be an international spy ala Bond. Though nothing really has been released, I hope they dont go this route. Jack Ryan doesnt need to try to be Bond or Bourne. I also hope they come up with another title!

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RE: Future Jack Ryan Films - 7/9/2012 10:10:49 AM   
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Rainbow Six film pretty please.

As for Jack Ryan. I will always like Alec Baldwin in the role, HFRO is a particular favourite film of mine



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RE: Future Jack Ryan Films - 7/9/2012 10:17:41 AM   
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after the drubbing the CIA has got with the 'bourne' movies they could do with a bit of positive press from mr ryan.

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RE: Future Jack Ryan Films - 15/11/2012 11:02:25 AM   
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So despite being rumoured for the role of John Clarke in the Without Remorse adaptation, Tom Hardy is now Sam Fisher in Splinter Cell.

I wonder if Paramount will create a Clancy-verse similar to what Marvel have done. Establish Ryan, Fisher, Clarke and Rainbow Six and then unleash them all!

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