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Star Trek 2: The Wrath Of Khan - 9/12/2006 4:39:28 PM   
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khaaaaaaan!!!!! - 9/12/2006 4:39:29 PM   
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i am watching this right now on channel 4, and to be honest i love this movie. i dont like any of the other star trek movies but for some reason this holds a place in my heart as a truely great movie, yes its cheesey yes its camp, but that doesn't matter because the acting is spot on and it has endlessly quoteable lines. "bottany bay", not to mention the brilliant william shatner, forget patrick stewart shatner is the only real captain of the enterprise. this is ten times better than star wars episode 1 and 2 and should be recognized as a great, camp, very 80s movie.

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RE: khaaaaaaan!!!!! - 11/12/2006 10:33:55 AM   
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i too viewed this film on channel four, its quite a guilty pleasure but still a pretty decent film. I do prefer First contact though.

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I felt the welling of moistness... - 18/8/2007 2:39:01 AM   
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...I mean, I nearly wept. I'm not sure how the Spock death scene was for non-StartTrek fans but for me I was so bloody moved and declared it the greatest piece of acting (from both Nimoy and Shatner) ever!

I may be a bit deluded mind.

A very different beast from the first film but also a 4-starrer. Certainly truer to the TV series and emotionally very accomplished.

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RE: Star Trek 2: The Wrath Of Khan - 3/9/2007 2:57:05 PM   
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Awesome Film and still reigns supreme as the ultimate Star Trek film.

First cotnact a close second.

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It was ok... - 15/5/2009 9:15:15 PM   
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And that is in no way a slight on the movie, it's just it had been hyped up by every review I'd read that when I sat down to watch it I was dissapointed. Not because it was a bad movie, it wasn't a bad movie....it just wasn't the great movie people had painted it to be.

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Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan Review - 19/12/2011 2:37:35 PM   
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Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan features a strong plot, increased tension, and a sharp supporting performance from Ricardo Montalban and it was this that kicked of this franchise.

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RE: Star Trek 2: The Wrath Of Khan - 29/6/2012 4:19:09 PM   
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Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (1982)

I never did understand how this film was so much more successful and popular than the first. Quite clearly the film has gone for a slightly more silly plot losing allot of the straight laced sci-fi from the first. I suppose you could say they lost the aspiring '2001' type sequences and went back to the more well known cardboard effects of Star Trek, shame.

Now I realise the slow building straight faced Star Trek we got in the first film was frowned upon but its hard to see what the fans actually wanted in a big screen version. There were complaints that the original was just an outstretched TV episode with fancy visuals, yet this sequel (in my opinion) was even more of an outstretched TV episode with lousy visuals.

I gotta give it to the creative teams behind the film, it was damn brave going ahead with this plot that's for sure. If you look at the facts here...the plot follows on from an episode which was in the old original TV series back in the mid 60's. So already you are possibly excluding most of your target audience as I'm sure many had not seen this episode and possibly not allot of the original series (of course many would have). So technically unless you had seen that episode you would be wondering what on earth happened before hand and feeling somewhat in the dark.

A bold move on the plot methinks, could of gone all wrong there. That aside I think the film looked pretty poor also, the effects looked allot rougher (which is saying something) and in general the grandiose feeling you got in the first film seemed to have been sucked away. What you had left was a quite cheap looking and very generic film, the only thing that looked spruced up were the character uniforms.

For me the franchise went backwards with this outing, it was kinda cool how they explored and expanded an old TV episode but the whole thing is so basic. I liked the slow strategic 'galleon' type starship battle between 'Kirk' and 'Khan' in the nebulae but apart from that there was nothing really that stuck out as a big moment.

Of course a sneering seething Ricardo Montalbán really helped the film with his portrayal of the dastardly 'Khan' but he doesn't do much does he. A curious one this, I know its a fan favourite and it saved the Star Trek franchise at the time of release but I just don't see why or how. I guess it was all about less fancy eye candy and a more 'down to earth' gritty Trek adventure.

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RE: Star Trek 2: The Wrath Of Khan - 29/6/2012 4:28:42 PM   
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I love TWOK but many fans say this is the point where the Star Trek film franchise just became an extension of the TV series with effects and stories that felt like two part episodes welded together rather than genuine films.

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RE: Star Trek 2: The Wrath Of Khan - 29/6/2012 4:38:36 PM   
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TMP made more money at the box office.

But this only cost 1/3 the amount TMP did - and it shows. Meyer's direction is nowhere near as cinematic as Wise's.

And Horner's score compared to Goldsmith's is like Wayne Rooney's hair compared to Andrea Pirlo's.


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RE: Star Trek 2: The Wrath Of Khan - 29/6/2012 4:39:34 PM   
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TMP made more money at the box office.

But this only cost 1/3 the amount TMP did - and it shows. Meyer's direction is nowhere near as cinematic as Wise's.

And Horner's score is like Wayne Rooney's hair compared to Andrea Pirlo's.



Brilliant!

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RE: Star Trek 2: The Wrath Of Khan - 29/6/2012 4:46:51 PM   
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Best Trek film ever made.

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RE: Star Trek 2: The Wrath Of Khan - 29/6/2012 5:41:31 PM   
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Best Trek film ever made.



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RE: Star Trek 2: The Wrath Of Khan - 29/6/2012 6:26:30 PM   
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My 2nd favourite film of all time and the best Star Trek film to date.

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RE: Star Trek 2: The Wrath Of Khan - 29/6/2012 6:55:06 PM   
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One of my favourite films.
But,for someone who is regarded as a highly inteligent being, Ricardo's Moltalbans Khan does act rationally dumb on occasions.

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RE: Star Trek 2: The Wrath Of Khan - 29/6/2012 7:16:57 PM   
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quote:

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I gotta give it to the creative teams behind the film, it was damn brave going ahead with this plot that's for sure. If you look at the facts here...the plot follows on from an episode which was in the old original TV series back in the mid 60's. So already you are possibly excluding most of your target audience as I'm sure many had not seen this episode and possibly not allot of the original series (of course many would have). So technically unless you had seen that episode you would be wondering what on earth happened before hand and feeling somewhat in the dark.



Not really - the film establishes the villain's backstory perfectly for people who hadn't seen Space Seed.

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RE: Star Trek 2: The Wrath Of Khan - 30/6/2012 5:01:27 AM   
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Well I had to go back and rewatch that scene a few times to get my head around it

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