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Stranger Than Fiction - 2/12/2006 6:19:09 AM   
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- 2/12/2006 7:08:34 PM   
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Great film, pace lacked in some places, but ultimately it's a movie i want to see more like, but not too much more like, in cinemas.

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- 2/12/2006 7:08:36 PM   
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Great film, pace lacked in some places, but ultimately it's a movie i want to see more like, but not too much more like, in cinemas.

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Stranger Than Fiction - 4/12/2006 8:04:34 AM   
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When it comes to writing a movie a great idea is only half the battle; the real test of a screenwriter’s mettle comes when that idea must be put into practice. Can you take an ingenious premise and make it work over the course of two hours? Can you give the most far-fetched notions weight and plausibility? Can you find a satisfying way to bring this story to a climax? That’s the challenge screenwriter Zach Helm has set himself with Stranger than Fiction, a literary romantic comedy which explores the boundary between truth and fiction and ends up struggling to contain the can of worms its high-concept premise opens up.

The film grows gradually more disappointing as Helm’s inability to handle the consequences of his central plot hook becomes apparent; and that’s a shame, because Stranger than Fiction’s premise is a smart one. Harold Crick (Will Ferrell) is a rigid, anal IRS agent who maintains a fastidious routine in his day-to-day life. He rises at the same time every morning, brushes his teeth with the same amount of strokes, takes the same amount of steps to work, eats at the same time, and then goes to bed at 11:13pm every single night. We know all this because the film’s female narrator (Emma Thompson) tells us the intimate details of Harold Crick’s life as he goes about his daily business. Then, one morning, Harold starts to hear her voice himself.

The voice belongs to Karen Eiffel, a reclusive, neurotic novelist who is working on her first novel in ten years, and Harold Crick is her central character. As Karen writes the story of Harold’s life, he starts to hear her narration inside his head, providing a running commentary on his every minor action. This leads to bemusement at first, then annoyance, before he finds himself shouting at the sky, begging this voice to shut up and leave him alone. Fortunately, literary expert Professor Jules Hilbert (Dustin Hoffman) is on hand to help him out, and he suggests Harold should first determine whether the story being narrated is a comedy or a tragedy. It seems pretty plain to Harold that his life is a tragedy, particularly when he can’t make his feelings known to sexy baker Ana (Maggie Gyllenhaal), and things get even worse for our protagonist when Karen Eiffel announces his imminent death.

In making Stranger than Fiction, Helm and director Marc Forster are pretty much asking for the newly-formed adjective “Kaufmanesque” to be applied to their work. Few people get their name transformed into a descriptive term, but Charlie Kaufman’s dazzling screenplays for Being John Malkovich, Adaptation and Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind have seen him positioned as contemporary cinema’s most original and imaginative creative force. That’s a high benchmark to live up to, and it comes as little surprise to see Stranger than Fiction starting to flag as it reaches beyond its grasp. The problems begin to arise when the structure of Helm’s meta-fictional comedy comes under any sort of scrutiny; some suspension of disbelief may be an obvious requirement when faced with a story such as this, but film still needs to make us believe in the central conceit to some extent, and that’s something Stranger than Fiction struggles to do.

“I’ve written eight novels” Karen Eiffel laments towards the end of the picture, “have I committed murder eight times?”. It’s an interesting point, but it’s not one that Stranger than Fiction ever explores. How exactly does this thing work? What was Harold Crick’s status before the author began writing her book? What about the secondary characters involved in Harold’s life; aren’t they Eiffel creations even though they feature in the novel being written? Why is Eiffel unaware of the primary cause of her leading character’s misery, namely the constant narration running through his head? Perhaps most pertinently, why do people refer to Eiffel’s book as a masterpiece when the extracts we hear are staggeringly banal and amateurish?

Asking questions such as these may seem rather pedantic, but they’re all examples of niggling little holes and inconsistencies which popped up with dispiriting frequency during the picture and impinged upon my enjoyment of it. Stranger than Fiction never dares to explore the boundaries of its own internal logic, and as a result it feels curiously underdeveloped. Marc Forster gives the film a self-consciously quirky look with his frequent visual tricks and on-screen graphics; but despite the clever set-up Stranger than Fiction actually follows a pretty basic romantic comedy structure, with a standard-issue “straight-laced guy learns to loosen up and enjoy life” theme driving it along. The thing is, the film is at its most enjoyable in those brief moments when it stops playing about with half-baked metaphysical crises and just lets the romance at the core of the movie blossom.

The main reason the romantic aspect of Stranger than Fiction works so well is the central pairing of Will Ferrell and Maggie Gyllenhaal, who work hard to give the film a warm centre. They seem a most unlikely couple - the uptight taxman and the spiky free spirit - but their sweetly nuanced displays make the development of the relationship plausible and rather touching. Ferrell is particularly impressive in his attempt to follow Robin Williams and Jim Carrey down the straight acting road; he is restrained and subtle, and the sense of innocence which worked so well for him in Elf similarly gives his taxman an endearing quality here. Ferrell is still very funny - his confused reactions when the voice first appears in his life are a treat - but it’s a different, and more affecting kind of funny, and his smart underplaying gives the movie a solid centre. Emma Thompson is a little less successful as the troubled writer - her highly-strung performance is overly mannered - and they seem to have completely forgotten to write a character for Queen Latifah, but Dustin Hoffman offers a bit of comic relief with a relaxed and mildly eccentric supporting turn. His scenes with Ferrell are some of the film’s most enjoyable, and Helm has fun playing around with literary references whenever Hilbert is on screen.

There’s nothing really new here, though. The film doesn’t take its premise anywhere particularly adventurous and it continues to play safe as it builds to a climax which is all-too-neat. Actually, that’s not strictly true - the film does offer us the briefest glimpse of a darker, more daring finale, but then it gets cold feet and instead settles on an ending which is poorly written and woefully unconvincing. It’s a flat climax to a frustrating film; a picture which has a wonderfully promising premise in its hands and then hasn’t got a clue what to do with it. It’s so disappointing to see a film with this much potential slip blandly into trite moralising and a cop-out happy ending; and while Zach Helm deserves some credit for making his first screenplay as enjoyable and intriguing as it is, the sad truth of Stranger than Fiction is that it’s simply not strange enough.

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RE: Stranger Than Fiction - 4/12/2006 8:53:29 AM   
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Why don't you write for Empire, your reviews are better than theirs.

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RE: Stranger Than Fiction - 4/12/2006 5:14:14 PM   
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I really enjoyed it. It's a very "warm" film with a lot of humour and heart, likeable characters that you want to root for, keeps your attention, and its clever enough to pose a couple of interesting questions without being really depressing or upsetting. I suppose if I want to carp, the pace is a little slow in one or two places, and there's no action (if you like that sort of thing).

Who cares if it isn't a literary masterpiece - I personally like cop-out happy endings and it was a thoroughly enjoyable 2 hours.

4 / 5.

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- 4/12/2006 5:30:42 PM   
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Fantastic! A great idea beautifully transformed into a wonderful film. Will Ferrell shows new depths, Emma Thompson is incredible and the supporting cast like Gyllenhaal, Hoffman and Latifah all provide stella support (there's even Buster from Arrested Development who's great) . Best film of the year.

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RE: - 4/12/2006 5:34:48 PM   
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Seeing Will Ferrell cry was one of the saddest things I have seen at the cinema in the past few years.

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RE: RE: - 4/12/2006 11:36:53 PM   
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Fantastic film.Great perfomances from everyone. Especially Will Ferrel. I really believed in the character. He really can act. It was a great subtle transformation even if I did not 100% believe his relationship with Gylenhaal.

As I came out somebody was saying they should have let him die but I thought Thompson's line about wanting to save a man who would knowingly walk to his death was very touching.

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Sublime - 5/12/2006 9:28:28 AM   
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Who would have thought that Will Ferrell was this good an actor? At last a good, intelligent, adult film that doesnt pander to the lowest common denominator and treats the audience with a modicom of intelligence. The acting is superb, the script is sublime and the special effects (yes! special effects!) are used to delightfully entertaining effect. Good to see Emma Thompson back on the big screen too. Lets hope its not too long before we see her again

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RE: Sublime - 5/12/2006 1:14:11 PM   
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I liked this.  Will Ferrell performed admirely in a toned down performance and much like his work in Elf he is credible as an admitedly somewhat quirky romantic lead.  The central pairing between Ferrell and Maggie Gyllenhaal works despite the obvious age difference between the two and features the best use of a bendy bus in the movies.  The writing is good - particularly strong on the dialogue front although screenwriter Zach Helm struggles to keep the narrator presence going throughout the film's second half.  Marc Forster is becoming an increasingly interesting director and one who seems to excel at sentimentality without overloading the saccharine (see also Finding Neverland), perhaps Cameron Crowe could take notes.

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Death and Texas !!!!...... - 6/12/2006 6:32:38 PM   
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Pretty easy to watch, and very clever Film indeed, much better than I expected it to be, good performances all round from the leading actors too.......

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RE: Stranger Than Fiction - 6/12/2006 9:34:04 PM   
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Stranger Than Fiction is a meta-fiction, which means it is a fiction about fiction, which also means it should be heading in the general direction of its own arse at a swift rate of knots. But, miraculously, no; director Marc Forster’s first stab at comedy is a clever little charmer, and one of the best films of the year.

Howard Crick (Will Ferrell) is our protagonist, an IRS agent, and a very right-brain kind of guy, whose meticulously numerical daily rituals are recounted by our narrator Kay Eiffel (Emma Thompson), a writer so chronically blocked that her publishers have sent an assistant (Queen Latifah) to make sure she meets her latest deadline. Unfortunately for Howard, Eiffel is also his narrator: he has begun hearing her voice in his own head, and it is more than enough to put him off his maths. Consulting a doctor leaves Howard unsatisfied, and before you can say “unlikely plot contrivance”, he is in the capable hands of literature professor and narrative theory expert Jules Hilbert (Dustin Hoffman). Wryly sympathetic and wise, Hilbert sets about identifying the generic fingerprints of Howard’s internal novel - comedy or tragedy? - a project that becomes much more urgent when Howard hears of his own “imminent demise.” Not normally in touch with his feelings, Howard now can’t avoid them, because they are being described to him in lingering detail, and the experience begins to change him; swinging him toward self-fulfilment, friendship and love: the latter arriving in the sweet and sexy shape of Ana Pascal (Maggie Gyllenhaal), a baker who has been withholding her taxes for ethical reasons.

Writer Zack Helm exploits his intriguing but tricky premise with considerable subtlety and skill - never straining for laughs or lapsing into incoherence - right up to the film’s clever and surprisingly satisfying ending. His witty script is well-served by an excellent cast, who all prove adept at the kind of light-touch playing such material demands. Ferrell is in understated mode here, and is as good as he has ever been, making his ostensibly dull character instantly engaging and sympathetic, even before he has begun to break out of his shell. The chemistry between him and the delicious Gyllenhaal is an unlikely but immediate success, and she is a delight throughout: the scene where she bakes him cookies being guaranteed to melt any man’s heart. In fact Stranger Than Fiction is that rarest of things, a light-hearted Hollywood romance that really works: sweet and smart in a style that you might have feared all but forgotten. It is a thoroughly enjoyable, warm-glow-of-pleasure, type of film; and not to be missed.

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- 7/12/2006 2:02:04 AM   
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Saw this a couple of days ago, and while it's based on a great premise, I didn't think the script came close to realising that premise satisfactorily.

Starts off well enough with plenty of clever and funny moments, but as the film goes on, it gets less interesting as you realise the script writers are running out of ideas.
The ending isn't very satisfactory either.

Still, I'd give it a solid 3 stars, mainly because the main premise IS very good and original, plus the acting is good all-round.

Certainly worth seeing, but I don't agree with Empire that it deserves 4 stars.

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- 7/12/2006 8:00:14 PM   
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the best Will Ferrell film by far even if he has done a Jim Carey/Truman Show like performance

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RE: - 9/12/2006 5:21:08 PM   
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I really don't like Will Ferrell, so it was with much intrepidation that I went to see this movie.   However the plot really appealed to me, and I wondered how it could all be done.

Anyway I have to take my hat off to Mr Ferrell, because I thoroughly enjoyed the movie and he really made me like his character.  What a transformation from the roles he usually picks.  The humour in this film and which Ferrell displays is understated, yet speaks volumes.  None of his silly voices, shouting or improvs, all of this felt genuine and was at times very touching.

With the approach of his imminent death, I too felt his desperation as he tried to find Karen Eiffel (the author of the novel he's unwittingly found himself in) in order to change the ending.

However there were a couple of things about the movie which I can't help ponder.   

Firstly that Hoffman's character (who, by the way was brilliant, Hoffman is a genuis as this slightly off-the wall literature professor, every scene he was in was a joy to watch) should decide that Karen's career is more important than a human life.  Surely that's stretching it a bit? I know I've just pointed out he was slightly-off the wall, but I don't feel it can justify his final decision that Harold must die in order to give Karen her best novel yet. 

Secondly, the fact that Karen decided to let Harold live was too obvious.  I was in no doubt that this would be how the movie turned out. As King_Wah stated, the line she uses to defend her decision with, was ample enough explanation for it to leave us satisfied with it.   But I still felt as though letting him live was too 'boring' or too 'predictable.'

However, saying all that I can't quite imagine how the movie would have panned out if he had been killed.  And certainly I would be questioning Karen's morals as a person had killed Harold off knowing that he was a real person.

So I guess, letting him live seemed the better of two options really.

Anyway this movie, was like a number of movies out at the moment, a refreshing change of subject matter, and definitely one to watch!

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RE: RE: - 10/12/2006 12:54:43 AM   
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However there were a couple of things about the movie which I can't help ponder.   

Firstly that Hoffman's character (who, by the way was brilliant, Hoffman is a genuis as this slightly off-the wall literature professor, every scene he was in was a joy to watch) should decide that Karen's career is more important than a human life.  Surely that's stretching it a bit? I know I've just pointed out he was slightly-off the wall, but I don't feel it can justify his final decision that Harold must die in order to give Karen her best novel yet. 

Secondly, the fact that Karen decided to let Harold live was too obvious.  I was in no doubt that this would be how the movie turned out. As King_Wah stated, the line she uses to defend her decision with, was ample enough explanation for it to leave us satisfied with it.   But I still felt as though letting him live was too 'boring' or too 'predictable.'



1st, I think it fits in perfectly with Hoffman's character that we would put Karen's "brilliant" novel ahead of Harolds life. We see through the film that books are the only thing his character cares about, the only reason he gets involved in Harolds life is to see how the story will develop. I love the contrast of why Harold decided to let himself die, he decides that saving a boy's life is ultimately more important than letting himself live, compared to why Hoffman's character thought it was better for Harold to die.

Secondly, having Harold die wouldn't have made the slightest bit of sense. Karen was right, as great as her book apparently is, it doesn't work if the man knows he is going to die but chooses to anyway. This again links back to how Hoffman's character relates to the book. He chooses art over life, while Karen sees that letting a good man live is much more important then anything she could have written. It relates back to the movie perfectly, and is much better then killing off Harold in what would have just been for a shock, but pointless, ending.

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Stranger than fiction - 12/12/2006 10:46:07 AM   
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Absolutly brilliant! I loved this film from beginning to end! Even though I really do like Will Ferrell but this has to be one of his best films to date; doing a kinda of Jim Carey Truman show film that showed that Mr Ferrell can do drama as well as comedy! A great cast with Mr Dustin and Miss Emma Thompson (who gives a terrific performance by the way!) and the bit when Will sings on the guitar made me almost fall head over heals in love with him!

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Stranger than fiction - 12/12/2006 10:46:09 AM   
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Absolutly brilliant! I loved this film from beginning to end! Even though I really do like Will Ferrell but this has to be one of his best films to date; doing a kinda of Jim Carey Truman show film that showed that Mr Ferrell can do drama as well as comedy! A great cast with Mr Dustin and Miss Emma Thompson (who gives a terrific performance by the way!) and the bit when Will sings on the guitar made me almost fall head over heals in love with him!

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RE: Stranger than fiction - 16/12/2006 9:48:45 PM   
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I was pleasantly surprised by this, I thought it was a nice, rather sweet little film and a pleasant change of direction for Will Ferrell, I particularly enjoyed his scenes with Gylenhaal and Hoffman. Maybe the ending could have been a bit better but it was overall an enjoyable, feel good movie.

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RE: Stranger than fiction - 17/12/2006 1:10:00 AM   
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Watched it for the 2nd time today! Still fantastic, for me it has been the best film of the year! 5/5!

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Stranger than Fiction - 27/3/2007 11:01:29 PM   
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Movies about writers and about writing tend to fall flat on their face, because the Hollywood idea of writers are of intellectuals whose stories are almost always about some introspective look into the human soul or take a look at the taboo subjects or whatever. Not the other 90% of authors that actually write stories and books that people enjoy; you know, the ones that are actually readable?
Emma Thompson plays such an author who is, of course, a genius with writers block. But the story she is trying to write turns out to be real in Stranger than Fiction. Will Ferrell is the main character, a real human being who is hearing Thompson’s sultry English tones narrating his whole life. This seems a sure sign of schizophrenia but because his particular way in which he is hearing the voice, a narration of things that are happening and things are soon to happen, including his imminent death, he sees Dustin Hoffman’s English professor to try and sort out what the hell is going on.
The idea, of a man being the main character in a fictional story is an interesting one but when it comes down to this being shown on a movie it just doesn’t work as well as I would have hoped. The idea just isn’t good enough to last a full two hours and seems to fall flat on itself an hour in, at which it appears to forget what its all really meant to be about, Will Ferrell hearing narration in his head, and focus on his relationship with Maggie Gyllenhaal who is superb in her role, being sweet and somehow a tough girl at the same time. She is really becoming one of the best actresses in Hollywood and will headlining in no time soon.
It rolls along for too long but it isn’t a bad movie; I enjoyed it but found it to be more interesting as an idea than a fully-pledged piece of cinema. Will Ferrell plays it straight much the same way Jim Carey did in Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, this movies bigger and better sister. He does it well but not quite as good as C

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- 15/4/2007 12:53:48 PM   
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Didn't absorb it as well as I could coz I was watching it on an aeroplane, but that didn't subtract from it's quality and I would still rate it and am definately going to watch it again :-)

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Wills Golden Movie! - 16/4/2007 2:26:53 PM   
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If you haven't seen this - don't hesitate to pick up and get it on!
Original, funny and smart and just damn good entertainment!

A Classic throughout! PS - Loved Maggies tatoos in this, shes turning into a real babe!

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Loved it - 23/4/2007 11:46:47 AM   
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I loved this film from start to finish. I never quite knew what to expect next. The subtle humour worked beautifully, and Maggie Gyllenhaal was REALLY sexy in it. The script and acting were on top form, how could anyone not love this movie?

Originality in film-making that I wish we could see more of (or is that statement a bit too ironic?)

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Luv iiiiiiiiiiiiit! - 17/5/2007 11:52:12 PM   
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Brilliant movie, genius dialogue, with one of the most romantic line since EVER...'I got you Flours', loved it, one my fave flms of this year, which is weird as i hate Will Ferrell but dude totally amazed me! and Maggie...Oh Maggie...brilliant, can this gal do anything wrong!

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Very good - 1/6/2007 7:32:32 PM   
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I loved it. Its pretty amusing in parts, well acted and smartely scripted. But most of all this is a hugely original and clever look at fiction.

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- 20/6/2007 3:22:47 PM   
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Oooh no, a thunderous misstep in my humble opinion. A great idea was wasted by a studio who clearly didn't know what to do with it. What could have been a metaphysical drama is castrated to become a kooky love story, with the film suffering something of an identity crisis. The blossoming relationship between Harold and Ana plods along unabated, then suddenly we're back with Thompson's chain-smoking novelist as she visits a ward of terminally-ill people in search of inspiration for Harold's death. If only Forster and screenwriter Zach Helm had the courage of their convictions, instead of grafting a standard studio picture onto the framework of European art-house.

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Suprisingly good! - 8/8/2007 12:28:35 PM   
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I had heard good things about this and decided to give it a shot. I find Will Ferrell funny but sometimes his over-the-top antics annoys me. In this film, however, I thought he was brilliant. His performance was understated but conveyed the initial confusion and then growing acceptance of his position brilliantly. Emma Thompson was also excellent.
The film is very funny and the ploy of having stats and diagrams appear in an almost natural way works well.
Simply, I thoroughly enjoyed the film and would recommend it to anyone who likes their comedy slightly odd but brilliant.

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Surprisingly fantastic - 16/9/2007 5:16:40 PM   
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I didn't expect too much from this film but when I sat down and watched it I found it to be a new addition to my top 10 all time greats. It struck the balance between funny and serious just right and Will Ferrell was so much better in this than anything he has ever done before. I hope he sticks to making things like this and not any more Ricky Bobby type crapfests

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