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Bram Stoker's Dracula - 23/11/2006 8:33:39 PM   
eam91


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Having reached the end of this extreamly influencial novel, I thought I would begin a thread about it.
Now well over a century old, Dracula has inspired more films, plays, and other writings than almost any other book. The novel drips with dark gothic atmosphere, and plays host to one of the most enduring and instantly recognisable monsters ever, Count Dracula. The story is famously told through a series of journals, letters and newspaper clippings, which combine to tell the tale of the legendary vampire.
However, the book is not without its flaws. The characters are terribly melodramatic, and often steal from the realism of the novel. The male potagonists often break down in tears over the most mundane of situations, and their combined platonic love of the female characters oozes with almost sickening cornyness.
The regional accents of some of the minor characters are barely readable, and the ending is a severly dissapointing anti-climax after an over-long build-up.
I do reccomend the book, however, even if you only read the first few chapters about Jonathan Harker's stay at Castle Dracula

So, what do you guys think of Stoker's famous book?  

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RE: Bram Stoker's Dracula - 24/11/2006 10:57:44 AM   
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Was a bit underwhelmed myself, I thought the start and the end were god but sagged in the middle. Has anyone heard anything else about the film based on the voyage of the Demer?

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RE: Bram Stoker's Dracula - 25/11/2006 1:13:20 PM   
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I've read this book a few times now and yes it is a bit of a slog in the middle portion,but this is due to the fact it's written like it's a true story.Based on journals by the various people who where caught in Draculas web,it's more like a News reporter retelling the events that happen all those years ago.This make's it a far more chilling tale than if he'd written like say Mary Shellys Frankensten.It trully is a masterpiece.

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RE: Bram Stoker's Dracula - 25/11/2006 8:17:53 PM   
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I love it. It does slow down a bit in the middle, but it has a great creepy atmosphere all the way through. Unfortunately none of the films have really done it justice.

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RE: Bram Stoker's Dracula - 25/11/2006 9:28:13 PM   
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I think it's called epistolary - when a book is letters and excerpts of journals. Which works very well, I think, because it allows us to see the story from several different points of view. 
Great book anyways. Legendary, really. A must read.
Although it took me a while to purge the image of Keanu out of my head while reading it...   

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RE: Bram Stoker's Dracula - 25/11/2006 10:33:24 PM   
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It's a very good novel though I've always found Frankenstein to be far more effective and profound (it also tells the story within the confines of a letter from the seaman, similar to Dracula's style of storytelling).

I think the central conceit and character of Dracula makes a far greater impact than the novel itself.

Speaking of monsters, I've had Jekyll and Hyde for over a year now and have eyt to read it!

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RE: Bram Stoker's Dracula - 25/11/2006 11:03:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: furrybastard

It's a very good novel though I've always found Frankenstein to be far more effective and profound (it also tells the story within the confines of a letter from the seaman, similar to Dracula's style of storytelling).

I think the central conceit and character of Dracula makes a far greater impact than the novel itself.

Speaking of monsters, I've had Jekyll and Hyde for over a year now and have eyt to read it!



It's not bad, you should read it. Definitely Stevenson's best work.

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RE: Bram Stoker's Dracula - 27/11/2006 7:42:53 PM   
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eam91 ive got more posts on my threads and im a newbie

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RE: Bram Stoker's Dracula - 27/11/2006 8:17:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Sundance

I love it. It does slow down a bit in the middle, but it has a great creepy atmosphere all the way through. Unfortunately none of the films have really done it justice.


Couldn't agree more. It's one of my favourite books, yes, it does have it's slow parts but then so do a lot of books. None of the films have ever truly captured the story in the way that the book does.

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RE: Bram Stoker's Dracula - 18/12/2006 9:41:16 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: bozo

I think it's called epistolary - when a book is letters and excerpts of journals. Which works very well, I think, because it allows us to see the story from several different points of view. 
Great book anyways. Legendary, really. A must read.
Although it took me a while to purge the image of Keanu out of my head while reading it...   


Yeah, him and his dodgy accent kinda make Jonathan Harker laughable. Loved the book though and the style it was written. Made it very interesting to read.

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RE: Bram Stoker's Dracula - 18/12/2006 10:29:58 PM   
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It pales in comparison to The Modern Promethius (Frankenstien)

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RE: Bram Stoker's Dracula - 19/12/2006 1:54:22 AM   
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It's all about the influx of European immigrants heading for London in the 19th Century, and the problems they might pose. Dracula represents the immigrant sucking the life blood from the country and trying to destroy those natives who get in his way (Harker).

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RE: Bram Stoker's Dracula - 19/12/2006 9:22:28 AM   
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ORIGINAL: chilipenguin

It's all about the influx of European immigrants heading for London in the 19th Century, and the problems they might pose. Dracula represents the immigrant sucking the life blood from the country and trying to destroy those natives who get in his way (Harker).


I thought it was about the dark underbelly of the Victorian era and sexual repression.

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RE: Bram Stoker's Dracula - 19/12/2006 9:26:33 PM   
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I thought it was a great book, beautifully written.

The opening chapters are just plain brilliant!

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RE: Bram Stoker's Dracula - 20/12/2006 1:28:37 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Woger

quote:

ORIGINAL: chilipenguin

It's all about the influx of European immigrants heading for London in the 19th Century, and the problems they might pose. Dracula represents the immigrant sucking the life blood from the country and trying to destroy those natives who get in his way (Harker).


I thought it was about the dark underbelly of the Victorian era and sexual repression.


Well that too obviously

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RE: Bram Stoker's Dracula - 27/12/2006 9:05:21 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: bozo

quote:

ORIGINAL: furrybastard

Speaking of monsters, I've had Jekyll and Hyde for over a year now and have eyt to read it!



It's not bad, you should read it. Definitely Stevenson's best work.


And it's a lot better than Dracula - though not as influential.

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RE: Bram Stoker's Dracula - 28/12/2006 6:02:23 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mumblin sumpthin

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sundance

I love it. It does slow down a bit in the middle, but it has a great creepy atmosphere all the way through. Unfortunately none of the films have really done it justice.


Couldn't agree more. It's one of my favourite books, yes, it does have it's slow parts but then so do a lot of books. None of the films have ever truly captured the story in the way that the book does.


that is such the truth! the book is WOW! I can't describe it without using a term associated with 'hotdogs' . I love the book and have been disappointed in the films--but oh well. The best begining I have ever read.....I read the first 5 chapters with such excitement....I couldn't put it down (difficult since it was an online book) but I knew I had to read it....and then, it slowed down...but then I got the book and finished it and at the end....I was going crazy if they were going to make it by sunset......AHHHHHH it was sooooooo intense! I loved it. No other book had me crawling as this book has or did (whichever term is correct). Fabulous book one of my top 10! could be in top 5 but I can't think straight at the moment.

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RE: Bram Stoker's Dracula - 28/12/2006 10:13:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Chrisdee

quote:

ORIGINAL: mumblin sumpthin

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sundance

I love it. It does slow down a bit in the middle, but it has a great creepy atmosphere all the way through. Unfortunately none of the films have really done it justice.


Couldn't agree more. It's one of my favourite books, yes, it does have it's slow parts but then so do a lot of books. None of the films have ever truly captured the story in the way that the book does.


that is such the truth! the book is WOW! I can't describe it without using a term associated with 'hotdogs' . I love the book and have been disappointed in the films--but oh well. The best begining I have ever read.....I read the first 5 chapters with such excitement....I couldn't put it down (difficult since it was an online book) but I knew I had to read it....and then, it slowed down...but then I got the book and finished it and at the end....I was going crazy if they were going to make it by sunset......AHHHHHH it was sooooooo intense! I loved it. No other book had me crawling as this book has or did (whichever term is correct). Fabulous book one of my top 10! could be in top 5 but I can't think straight at the moment.


Welcome

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RE: Bram Stoker's Dracula - 7/1/2007 2:49:20 PM   
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Aah,Dracula...I was 15 when I first read this,after seeing (and loving) Christopher Lee,Lugosi and spending my entire pocket money as a kid on Marvel's Tomb Of Dracula comics...I absolutely adored the novel at the time and still do to a great degree...There's an impending sense of dread pervading the whole thing which gives it a fever-dream-like quality (similar to the confused entries in Harker's diaries) that I can only remember experiencing again after reading Stephen King's 'Salem's Lot...
I recall reading it while home sick from school (which might have greatly affected my appraisal of it)...One of the great reading experiences of my life... 


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RE: Bram Stoker's Dracula - 19/1/2007 8:06:36 PM   
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I think it is a brilliant book, in my top ten books of all time, i think its a book I will continue to re-read, i think Van Helsing is a brilliant character and i wish they would make a film/series more in keeping with the book rather than trying to apply modern themes to it, if they could capture the intensity of the book on film then they wouldn't have to try and modernise it to appeal to a larger audience

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RE: Bram Stoker's Dracula - 19/1/2007 10:05:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sarahlouise

I think it is a brilliant book, in my top ten books of all time, i think its a book I will continue to re-read, i think Van Helsing is a brilliant character and i wish they would make a film/series more in keeping with the book rather than trying to apply modern themes to it, if they could capture the intensity of the book on film then they wouldn't have to try and modernise it to appeal to a larger audience


If you mean the film with Hugh Jackman... ouch. Nothing to do with Stoker's character, but based on a comic book as far as I know.
Horrible achievement, that film.

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