Quint
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Joined: 30/9/2005 From: Napa, CA
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ORIGINAL: Quint I've seen Paul Cadden's work before and it really is something else! He and another guy who works in acrylic carry the flag for hyper-realism as there are a lot of arguments regarding its worth as an art form. Obviously, visually its essentially a photo as that is the aim, but that disregards the skill and time put into it. One of the things critics say is that it is essentially a copy, a beautifully rendered copy, but a copy nonetheless. The artist isn't pushing themselves to create or understand the what they are drawing, they just do. My work has been accused of this too (a lot of my stuff is copies from photos and life - not on Cadden's level though) and I have taken it to heart. When you draw from something in front of you, it's all to easy to just switch the brain off and mimic what you see. I found when I started drawing from imagination, things didn't look quite right (anatomy, perspective, physics etc) and it's because I hadn't put the time in to learn these things when I copied; I didn't try to work out why the light did what it did, why his arm did this, her eye did that, I just copied what I saw. Basically when you copy you don't need to think of these things and it can stunt your growth when you try new things. I would be interested to see Cadden's work from imagination and see how it matches up. What he does is stunning to me but I can understand those who think otherwise. quote:
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ORIGINAL: Chief Can people not just appreciate it for the technical ability though? I think some people can, but there's a lot of snobbery in the art community (shocker) and things like this get frowned upon by a lot. To be perfectly honest I think it's jealousy. A lot of artists would kill for that kind of technical skill and instead make do with claiming their art has a 'soul' which 9 times out of 10 isn't really there. I don't necessarily find his art uniquely beautiful or inspiring, but I think it is still stunning and impressive on a technical level. It astounds me that humans have the ability to produce an image of that photo real quality by hand. Isn't that what artists were striving to do for nearly all of history? So while I might not want one of his pieces up on my wall, I think there is real artistic value in what he does. With alot of modern art, I look at it and can only think the "artist" is 'aving a laugh at my expense. I think that there is indeed perhaps jealousy in the art world involved with those who would slag off the hyperrealist movement, as surely a hyper real pencil drawing is in it's way a statement on art in the post photographic age. quote:
I agree with that. I think it's far more impressive than an unmade bed or as Chief said, a pile of bricks and the technical skill and eye for detail is outstanding. I strove to get to that level of ability for a long time but have gone off in other avenues now as it demands patience and skill I just don't have! To me modern art is a joke and the definition of art has been stretched to ridiculous extents to the point where the recent public masturbation cases could be deemed an artistic statement of some sort. I remember my uni degree show and some of the work put up was pretty out there, so much so that my dad and I stood in front of a paint spattered sink that we all used to clean brushes etc., and other people gathered around us and made comments at the 'piece's' worth - it was a gallery sink... I appreciate your point about the drawing being a statement on art in the post photographic age, but to me thats exactly what's wrong with art these days; everything has to have a meaning, a reason for being. Surely art is supposed to be beyond meaning and is there because the artist wanted it to exist. This meaning bollocks is why Emin is so lauded. Sorry KOK, I know you made that point as a poke at how other artist's would have deemed it, not how you necessarily thought, so excuse the rant. As it was, my original comments were more to do with what other artist's would say rather than my own beliefs. I guess I was trying to play Devil's Advocate.
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