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RE: Lovely Romance, Hugh Jackman dazzles. - 13/1/2008 11:58:33 AM   
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Not nearly as bad as many have made out - I haven't read the books therefore had no (overly high?) expectations going in. It's enjoyable enough, certainly held my attention throughout, though I agree with the criticism that it jumps from scene to scene with not that much flow in a number of places. It's weird as hell (a dropout alcoholic polar bear?!?) which is sometimes a good thing, sometimes a bad thing. It's nothing special, but worth seeing.  

6/10

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RE: Lovely Romance, Hugh Jackman dazzles. - 13/1/2008 6:41:12 PM   
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Pretty fucking awful. I'm actually that disappointed that I'm not going to bother reviewing it in detail. The editing was absolutely fucking shocking though and new characters seemed to come and go at random. A wasted opportunity. 1.5/5 cos some of the FX were nice.

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So close, but so dull... - 16/1/2008 1:45:36 PM   
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A stunning example of the importance of the Director. A stellar cast (almost all good), wonderous story, stunning concepts, brilliant design and (mainly) good CGI. And yet it was boring and listless... Sir Ian was a bit "one note" (as if he'd had no time to rehearse), and King Jim Carter had so much eye-liner on he'd have made Jack Sparrow feel he needed a bit more mascara - but generally the film ended up far less than the sum of its parts. A great shame, because I suspect that any sequel will be direct to video, with a different cast and glove puppets for daemons...

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The Golden Compass - 17/1/2008 9:26:16 AM   
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This wasn't as bad as the reviews I have read led me to believe. It's very much a kids film and feels a bit disjointed and rushed into just under 2 hours. Most of the scenes could have done with being expanded a bit so that it felt a bit more like a story rather than a collection of scenes. CGI is good - especially liked the Daemons and the bear fight. Definitely worth a visit to the cinema for that alone.

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The Golden Compass - 20/1/2008 4:28:12 PM   
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I only went to watch this because it was Christmas eve and my younger cousin was with me, I wasn't expecting to be impressed................................................I wasn't. I read Empires review and listened to my friends opinions before I went to watch it, they told me it was boring and confusing. With that in mind, I thought that I must make every effort to listen to what is going on throughout the film. Even for a teenager or adult, it is just a mess. There were children in the cinema falling asleep along with adults and I couldn't help thinking that I was ripped off watching it. Unfortunately I won't be watching the sequels which is a shame because the series had a great set up. I haven't read the books that are supposed to be great and I'm sure they are, but maybe it was never supposed to be a movie.

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Could have been SOOOO much better - 27/1/2008 3:53:32 PM   
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Disappointed!!!!! Kidman is chilling as Mrs. Coulter and the girl who plays Lyra is good but the movie is missing so much of the book (to be expected I know, but still). The ending is one of the biggest WTF moments I have ever had at a movie. Great effects but still of whom much was expected, much was required. I hope that they just had the jitters coming out of the gate and that the next movie will be better.

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oh dear... - 30/1/2008 10:17:14 PM   
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well, the title syas it all, really. This was, and still is my favourite book, one of dazzling adventure, high fantasy and some truly cinematic set pieces. So why did it nor translate? Yes, i know the religion, but that does not allow the removal of the most vital themes in the film? Instead of an epic journey across exciting, scary locations all witnessed throught the eyes of a child, i got a rather listless trudge across a bunch of cliches, where's that expositional dialogue betewenn Lyra and Pan? In the book, this conveyed their thoughts, some comic interludes andf continued the themes of discovering a new world. In the film, Pan was merely there to explain to the pre-teen audience (and any world weary parents) what the hell was going on. Don't be so patronising. And i hate to say, that after all the fuss about its CG, where was it? Iorek running across the snow seemes ropey, while the polar bear fight seemed to lack the bone crunching viscerality that was portrayed in the book. No, that doesn't mean make it gorier, just remember how you cared for ben kenobi as he vanished in a puff of smoke. And before the end of the review, i'll say that the music was pretty good, hopefully building up to the bittersweet climax as Lyra leaves her world after seeing her best friend murdered. But that didn't happen, instead I left the cinema to strains of "Lyra, lyra, her soul walks beside her...". oh dear oh dear.

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oh dear... - 30/1/2008 10:17:21 PM   
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well, the title syas it all, really. This was, and still is my favourite book, one of dazzling adventure, high fantasy and some truly cinematic set pieces. So why did it nor translate? Yes, i know the religion, but that does not allow the removal of the most vital themes in the film? Instead of an epic journey across exciting, scary locations all witnessed throught the eyes of a child, i got a rather listless trudge across a bunch of cliches, where's that expositional dialogue betewenn Lyra and Pan? In the book, this conveyed their thoughts, some comic interludes andf continued the themes of discovering a new world. In the film, Pan was merely there to explain to the pre-teen audience (and any world weary parents) what the hell was going on. Don't be so patronising. And i hate to say, that after all the fuss about its CG, where was it? Iorek running across the snow seemes ropey, while the polar bear fight seemed to lack the bone crunching viscerality that was portrayed in the book. No, that doesn't mean make it gorier, just remember how you cared for ben kenobi as he vanished in a puff of smoke. And before the end of the review, i'll say that the music was pretty good, hopefully building up to the bittersweet climax as Lyra leaves her world after seeing her best friend murdered. But that didn't happen, instead I left the cinema to strains of "Lyra, lyra, her soul walks beside her...". oh dear oh dear.

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Good Effort - 1/2/2008 1:15:27 PM   
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I throught it was good but not great. It has great special effects but it's a bit predictable. The books are for children and adults but the film seems to be focused more towards children.

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The Golden Let-Down - 6/2/2008 7:35:12 PM   
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OK first things first, I had no interest in seeing this film and have never read the books. My girlfriend quite fancied it though, so away we went. Since watching it I've read the reviews here, seen both sides of the debate, and been out and bought the books (for the missus, but I may give them a go)

From the fans on here, and from a couple of friends, I've picked up the feeling that the books are very probably great reads. I'll wait for my gf to read them first - see what she thinks. I'd like to think that they are significntly better than the film.

*SPOILERS ?*

I'm not going to go into depth on my criticisms, they're nothing new. Suffice to say that after an initially promising opening I just felt like the film turned into a race to introduce all of the key characters as quickly as possible, have Lyra (sp?) make friends with each one of them in about 30 seconds flat, and then have one/some/all of them turn up to bail her out of the scrape that she got into approximately 2 minutes later.

I hope that she is a deeper character in the books, I hope that there is more "down time" between the moments of crisis in her journey, and I hope that the plight of the world feels a lot more serious than a bunch of kids being kidnapped.

The only thing that stopped me walking out was the fear of the missus slapping me, that and Sam Elliott - who looked like he'd wandered into the wrong set whilst looking for Tombstone II. Now give him and Tommy Lee Jones a character driven Southern United States movie and I'll be in hog heaven.

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A breath of fresh air for fantasy fatigue - 8/2/2008 2:25:00 PM   
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great cgi, at two hours never drags or feels flabby unlike lord of the rings, nicole kidman's monkey thing was fuckin' creepy, something about sin or dust and sexy witches and two bears kickin the crap out of eachother! purists were probably shocked at the 'azkaban' treatment but the terrible score by desplat aside i enjoyed this...

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So Very Disappointing - 16/2/2008 4:19:17 PM   
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The Golden Compass is the latest fantasy adventure to come our way. Like many of the fantasy films that have come out in recent years (Lord of the Rings, The Chronicles of Narnia), The Golden Compass was originally a book. The Golden Compass (Northern Lights to many including myself) was the first book in Phillip Pullman's Dark Materials Trilogy. However, I believe it can be said that The Golden Compass did not do justice to its original medium. The film at time felt rushed (although this is understandable due to time restraints) meaning that some of the less superficial aspects of the story may have been over looked.

The setting for The Golden Compass is an alternate world from our own, Jordan in Oxford. It is a world where people have daemons in the form of animals that are similar to our own conscience and soul. The story revolves around a young girl named Lyra (Dakota Blue Richards) who lives in Jordan College and is niece of Lord Asriel (Daniel Craig). The story is set in motion early on in the film when Lyra witnesses the Masters of the College attempt to poison Lord Asriel, a plan which Lyra foils. Whilst Lord Asriel goes in the North in investigation of the mysterious particles named "dust", Lyra is invited on a journey with the mesmerising Mrs. Coulter (Nicole Kidman). Before going, Lyra is give an alethiometer which is essentially a measurer of truth. Lyra's excitement about being with Mrs. Coulter is shatter when Lyra realises that she is head of an organisation run by the Magisterium responsible for the disappearances of many children including some of Lyra's friends. Lyra eventually ends up in the hands of the Gyptians and one their travels she meets a witch, Serafina Pekkala (Eva Green), the aeronaut Lee Scoresby (Sam Elliott), and the armoured bear (voiced by Ian McEllen). (Dakota Blue Richards)

There was great controversy surrounding the making of the Golden Compass due to the religious aspects of the story. It can be argued that Lyr

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RE: His Dark Materials: The Golden Compass - 22/3/2008 4:14:50 PM   
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Director/Screenwriter: Chris Weitz
Starring: Nicole Kidman, Dakota Blue Richards, Sam Elliot, Eva Green, Daniel Craig, Ben Walker

Synopsis
In a parallel universe where humans have daemons, Oxford student Lyra Belacqua (Richards) journeys to the far North to save her best friend and other kidnapped children from terrible experiments by a mysterious organization known as the Magisterium.

Review
During the shoot of About a Boy, co-director Chris Weitz had been reading the His Dark Materials trilogy by Philip Pullman. After the success of The Lord of the Rings, New Line Cinema bought the rights to the award-winning fantasy franchise. This was the perfect time for Weitz to take control.

Originally Tom Stoppard was commissioned to write the screenplay of the first volume, but Weitz rejected his script and started his own. In order to create a family blockbuster, Weitz removed some of the themes from the book, such as the religious aspect, a very big mistake. Fans of the books will know that the title of the trilogy came from a phrase in John Milton's Paradise Lost. Since this phrase is not mentioned in this adaptation, this can be a disappointment to those who have loved the franchise for many years.

As a coming-of-age story about a little girl in Oxford, we never really get the idea that Lyra became more matured through this first act of the trilogy. Weitz seems to have removed some important scenes from the novel that were quite critical to both story and character. And to really piss off the fans, is the removal of the last three chapters, which had a significant continuation to the next instalment.

Searching for stylistic influences, Weitz cited Barry Lyndon and Star Wars. These were one of the acts of becoming a first-time blockbuster director. In terms of production design and visual effects, Weitz has made a particularely well-made film, in which the action is superb, especially a fight between two ice bears.

As a fan of the trilogy, newcomer Dakota Blue Richards has always wanted to be Lyra. Lot of her persona is in Lyra as a spoilt brat who is somewhat likeable. Daniel Craig as Lyra's uncle Lord Asriel just comes and goes, and only important to the story when you actually don't see him. The only true performance, besides Dakota Blue Richards, is Nicole Kidman as Marisa Coulter. She is a beautiful, posh lady, who is a devil in disguise. She is in many ways scary to some children.

Usually chemistry comes from actors, but ever since The Chronicles of Narnia, characters coming out of a computer are trying to do the same. While Narnia failed on this by hiring English actors to provide the voices of talking animals, Golden Compass does succeed. Take for instance, Freddie Highmore, the voice of Lyra's daemon Pantalaimon, whose chemistry with his human companion is the heart of the film. Richards has a lot of interaction with these type of characters, particularely Ragnar Sturlusson, voiced by Ian McShane.

However, with an all-star cast providing the voices of these daemons, including Kristin Scott Thomas and Kathy Bates, I was always asking for more to listen to these talents. Two cast embers you won't forget is Sir Iam McKellen and Christopher Lee. McKellen voicing the heroic bear Iorek Brynison manages to prevent a distraction from other big fantasy franchise. However, Lee as part of the Magisterium, feels a little cartoony.

If there is anything in the film was really emotional, was the song from the end credits, 'Lyra. Sung by Kate Bush, this song completely changes the mood of the film a little too late. It is like The Fellowship of the Ring with Enya only that fit well with the climax.

Verdict
With a screenplay that makes this adapatation a little too-paced, fans will be disappointed. However, this is pure family entertainment.


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RE: RE: - 4/4/2008 10:15:55 PM   
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That film could have been so much better, but it felt too rushed.

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iron man - 6/4/2008 2:46:09 PM   
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when i saw the golden compass last year i though to myself even though i haven't even read any of the books tht maybe just give the film ago then after i saw it i thought this movie looked like a 1hour30minutes film it was so quick and the plot was so tightly squizzed.

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Golden Comp-ARSE - 28/4/2008 3:12:37 PM   
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That was such a dull experience - fantasy films and children's book adaptations are judged against LOTR or Harry Potter, and the very least you expect is a decent job like Narnia these days.

The rushed plot and introduction of so many ideas and characters allied with a central plank of a performance by Dakota Blue Richards made this painful viewing.

The final battle was a mess and completely devoid of any excitement and if you hadn't read the books, watching this film would probably put you off for life.

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RE: Total Film - 30/4/2008 10:15:30 AM   
Dukez

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: holsy

And i would say their 3 stars is a much more objective and reasonable review than this tosh.


yeah its a three star movie

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good film - 30/4/2008 9:13:15 PM   
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i good film

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good film - 30/4/2008 9:13:27 PM   
Alsadairp

 

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i good film

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Toss! - 1/5/2008 4:43:11 PM   
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What the hell was all that nonsense about? I have never been so confused yet bored before in all my life. The CGI for the most part was atrocious, the dialogue clunky and the ending left me wanting to get my money back from Blockbuster. Total shit.

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One of the Best Fantasy Films Ever Made! - 2/5/2008 10:02:48 AM   
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I absoluteky loved this film and I think its quite true to the book.
If only we had our souls living outside our bodies like the daemons, a fantastic idea. Dakota Blue Richards was prefectly cast as Lyra and the visual effects were amazing. I loved this film, can't wait for the next one!

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Bitterly Disappointed. - 3/5/2008 9:11:42 AM   
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When I read Empire's review of this movie, I was afraid that it was that bad and not bother seeing it. So I rented it and my verdict? They were right, don't bother. Sure the special effects were good but they didn't deserve the Oscar. The accents were awful, what the hell was Nicole Kidman's? And Dakota Blue Richards is poor with her posh-cockny accent. If you are a fan of Daniel Craig, don't even bother seeing this movie. He's hardly in it, totally pointless for a talented actor. Not even hot with that beard and when he shaved it off, you never saw him again. I screamed and roared, how could they do this?! The end, argh! Why did it have to end so apruptly? Not even telling you what happened with the other people, I was very angry. Disappointing and the plot was stupid with added talking and ended in a hour and thirty eight other than a hour and fourty eight, Don't bother.

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Not as good as the book - 4/5/2008 9:47:14 AM   
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The film was good being adapted from a book though they had to miss out a lot of parts in it which was quite disappointing. Also if you haven't read the book, then it is quite hard to understand what everyones demons are for. But apart from that, the film was very well adapted with a good cast including Daniel Craig, Ian McKellon and Nicole Kidman and also dakota Blue Richards did a good job at playing Lyra.It also had good special effects that actually made the things like the polar bear and their demons. Overall it is a very good family film to see and as it finishes on a cliffhanger, it will make you look forward to seeing the next installment.

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Compost - 19/5/2008 9:58:51 AM   
chargomp


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My five year old calls this 'The Golden Compost'- he hasn't even seen it yet he already knows what a gold encrusted pile of poo it is...

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- 7/6/2008 11:09:06 PM   
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Very good: I enjoyed it thoroughly as a film. Technically superb, but too short.Pity about the dumbing down of the book. New Line, be braver with the next two! I look forward to the Director's cut and two sequels.

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The Golden Compass - 11/6/2008 11:04:17 AM   
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What a waste - 7/7/2008 10:35:29 PM   
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If like me you loved the Northern Lights (proper title! The fact that even the title was dumbed down should have been a warning) and it's two follow ups, then you will surely be mystified as to how this film was so totally squandered. It is as if the story is being recounted third hand by someone who suffers from memory loss and didn't like it in the first place. Characters are rendered paper thin as are events and ideas. I honestly cannot understand how this screenplay was thought to reflect the book. It is total rubbish and I would urge anyone who has a passing interest in this to ignore the film completely and go and read the book, which is an infinitely more satisfying prospect. The only remote plus is the casting of Lyra. I could go on but I think you get the point. I only hope they don't bother to make the remaining books into films and potentially spoil them too. It is too good a trilogy of books to be squandered in this manner. Chris Weitz needs to go away and think about what a mess he made.

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Ummmmmm, - 23/8/2008 12:27:33 AM   
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First off I'm a film man and not a regular reader (Harry Potter can kiss my arse in any format) but having just finished the first book and loved it I fancied seeing the film. Was actually enjoying the ride and seeing some of Pullmans world being realised on screen, if in a slightly shallow way. Appreciated that as a stand alone film it was a total mess but I was having fun all the same. Then it ended. If I hadn't of read the book I'd be mad. Having read the book, I was mad. So bottom line I'm pretty mad. I've seen extra footage from the books ending in trailers so why did they end it where they did? Would have got a generous 3 stars if they'd followed the book. For f**ks sake what a waste.

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RE: Ummmmmm, - 22/12/2008 7:34:34 PM   
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I'll throw in my 2 cents, for what it's worth. When I saw they were going to make this film, at the time I was looking forward to seeing it. I knew of His Dark Materials, but I had never read the books. The story sounded really good, so I thought I had better read Northern Lights before I see the film. Being a terrible reader of books I decided to go for the unabridged audio book. The abridged version at it's shorter running time didn't look it could do the book justice. The unabridged version was narrated by Phillip Pullman and I thought it was tremendous! I am pleased that I experienced the book before the film, and not the other way round

To be frank, I thought the film wasn't good at all. Sure, it was true to the book in a way, but that's because they just plonked sections of the book into the film. The editing was terrible really, and there was no sense of pace. There seemed to be no indication that this was an epic journey. It is a difficult book to turn into a film that is worthy of the book, but that does not forgive such basic flaws found in the film. I can understand the studio not having the balls to include certain issues in the film, issues which are key to the book, but even without those issues, as a standalone film it should have been decent. The studio made a real mess of it to be honest. The director cannot be blamed, it's a case of too many cooks spoil the broth. It's a shame, far too often do studios meddle with films.



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RE: Ummmmmm, - 23/12/2008 11:10:50 AM   
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This film is so bad I actually want to see it again over christmas purely for a laugh. Good god it was so, so shit.

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