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Empire Admin -> Libertine, The (23/10/2005 12:25:08 AM)

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Eryniel -> A brilliant film - sometimes horrible, sometimes beautiful, always unforgettable (3/5/2006 9:51:50 PM)

Why is it that critics always wheel out the same old, tired complaints about this film? Foggy and under-illuminated? Honestly, were you expecting Rochester to write his poetry by halogen lamp? The Libertine goes to prove the point wonderfully that film-making (and film *watching*) should not always be a comfortable experience. Sam Toy's comment about debauchery having been done before, and better, just about sums up the tone of his whole review. Obviously here was yet another person going in to see The Libertine expecting a right jolly old romp, and being disappointed because there Just Wasn't Enough Sex and a little too much grim reality for their 21st century tastes.




Stanley Kubrick -> Why such a Poor Review? (9/5/2006 1:30:14 AM)

This was at times a beautiful film. At the start of the film where the Earl says "You will not like me," you are drawn into the world of the Earl. You are intrigued as to what could make you dislike him...
You didn't know by the end whether to go with your gut feeling of dislike or whether to marvel at his sometimes brilliance skeptical self.
I managed to watch the film with ease. I was worried that I would think less of Johnny Depp, but you only came away knowing that this man can act. I felt for all the characters within the film and I wanted to urge them to change/improve, to become better.
The musical score within the film caught the heart..
Superb film.

I only wished he found what he was really looking for in love, something that could hold him in contentment/fulfillment of all his desires and wishes.




Empire Admin -> Unfortunate film of an amazing life (19/5/2006 1:22:13 PM)

I have to say that I enjoyed the film for the sake of the film, and in the main do not agree with Sam Toy. However, I will say that Dunmore's picture of the Earl's life is sadly lacking. This was a brilliant if sometimes misguided person, whose poetry ranged from the sublime to the ridiculous, as did the rest of his life. To only show the last 4/5 years of his life, and in such a dark, humourless, cynical and souless way, is such a waste of a character. There was so much more that could have been achieved if the Earl had been partrayed honestly and the earlier years of his life had been included in the film. As it is, the relationship with his mother is unrealistic,, where are the group of wits with whom he spent so much time producing lampoons on the activities of the restoration court - we only see Etherage and Sackville, no Sedley or Saville or Buckingham or others. And there was no attempt whatsoever to explain why and how his childhood/upbringing influenced the grown man and his final cynicism with life and the restoration court. All we see are the final 4/5 dark years of his life, when alcohol and veneral disease had already almost ruined him. No sign of the brilliant, witty, gifted and sparkling, if eratic and wild youngster of his late teens and early 20's. No sign of the more heroic aspects of his character. And the portrayal of his relationship with Lizzy Barry is completely wrong. This could have been a great film, as it is, it skims the surface of a great life with a contemptuous, sneering and disparaging outlook, that in now way reflects the true nature and spirit of the man. What a waste!




Empire Admin -> Unfortunate film of an amazing life (19/5/2006 1:22:41 PM)

I have to say that I enjoyed the film for the sake of the film, and in the main do not agree with Sam Toy. However, I will say that Dunmore's picture of the Earl's life is sadly lacking. This was a brilliant if sometimes misguided person, whose poetry ranged from the sublime to the ridiculous, as did the rest of his life. To only show the last 4/5 years of his life, and in such a dark, humourless, cynical and souless way, is such a waste of a character. There was so much more that could have been achieved if the Earl had been partrayed honestly and the earlier years of his life had been included in the film. As it is, the relationship with his mother is unrealistic,, where are the group of wits with whom he spent so much time producing lampoons on the activities of the restoration court - we only see Etherage and Sackville, no Sedley or Saville or Buckingham or others. And there was no attempt whatsoever to explain why and how his childhood/upbringing influenced the grown man and his final cynicism with life and the restoration court. All we see are the final 4/5 dark years of his life, when alcohol and veneral disease had already almost ruined him. No sign of the brilliant, witty, gifted and sparkling, if eratic and wild youngster of his late teens and early 20's. No sign of the more heroic aspects of his character. And the portrayal of his relationship with Lizzy Barry is completely wrong. This could have been a great film, as it is, it skims the surface of a great life with a contemptuous, sneering and disparaging outlook, that in now way reflects the true nature and spirit of the man. What a waste!




Deppy Legs -> Dammit (20/3/2007 6:57:43 PM)

Shane MacGowan was cut. That makes me prejudiced.




GoCommando -> Spot on review (5/1/2008 11:36:57 PM)

I think the comments missed the point of Sam Toys "Foggy and under-illuminated" statement. The point wasnt that the style of cinematography was wrong but the style of story. Good production values, great cast, some good lines, but a bland unengaging story.




HarryHavoc -> AMAZING (5/6/2008 9:16:54 AM)

I feel that those of less interlect and more of fan base pathetic nonsense seem to dwindle their days with expressions like "i just cummed over that news on spiderman" daily. This film is inspirational and those who oppose such a peice of work are idiots. Enjoyed this movie so much, finaly you get something that isnt over hyped and rediculous like most movies these days. Well played Mr Depp.




deppfanatic -> The Libertine (You will not like me) (20/9/2009 2:25:34 PM)

Why on earth has this been given a poor rating? yes it may be RAUNCHY but who wouldn't like that, Depp's acting superb as always, brilliant plot a teary end. 5 out of 5 from me!




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