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MonsterCat -> RE: NOLAN SNUBBED AGAIN (9/1/2013 1:08:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Ref

Also surprised that Hans didn't get a nod for TDK. What the hell BAFTA?!



Because it's barely music?




jcthefirst -> RE: NOLAN SNUBBED AGAIN (9/1/2013 1:18:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MonsterCat

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ORIGINAL: Ref

Also surprised that Hans didn't get a nod for TDK. What the hell BAFTA?!



Because it's barely music?


[:D]

Although saying that, I do like his TDKR score.




steveg66 -> (9/1/2013 1:24:44 PM)

Might be blowing a trumpet for Empire but prefer your awards system for a start. BAFTA's always too pretentious. Amour? FFS! How many average film fans have actually heard of it let alone seen it? Ignoring Nolan and TDKR is criminal. And as a side note have just had a good chuckle at the Razzie noms for this year. Empire new story here please.




Ref -> RE: BAFTA Noms (9/1/2013 1:31:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: steveg66

Might be blowing a trumpet for Empire but prefer your awards system for a start. BAFTA's always too pretentious. Amour? FFS! How many average film fans have actually heard of it let alone seen it? Ignoring Nolan and TDKR is criminal. And as a side note have just had a good chuckle at the Razzie noms for this year. Empire new story here please.


[:D] That's true enough, Steve. And the acceptance speeches are always better at the Empire Awards.


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ORIGINAL: MonsterCat

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ORIGINAL: Ref

Also surprised that Hans didn't get a nod for TDK. What the hell BAFTA?!



Because it's barely music?


Okay, Grandpa [:D]


EDIT: Just changed the title name.




rawlinson -> RE: (9/1/2013 1:41:15 PM)


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ORIGINAL: steveg66

Might be blowing a trumpet for Empire but prefer your awards system for a start. BAFTA's always too pretentious. Amour? FFS! How many average film fans have actually heard of it let alone seen it?


So you're on a website dedicated to films complaining that one of the best reviewed films of the year shouldn't have been nominated because you haven't heard of it? The sense of entitlement some people have around awards ceremonies is absolutely bewildering.




Harry Tuttle -> RE: BAFTA Noms (9/1/2013 1:46:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rawlinson


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ORIGINAL: steveg66

Might be blowing a trumpet for Empire but prefer your awards system for a start. BAFTA's always too pretentious. Amour? FFS! How many average film fans have actually heard of it let alone seen it?


So you're on a website dedicated to films complaining that one of the best reviewed films of the year shouldn't have been nominated because you haven't heard of it? The sense of entitlement some people have around awards ceremonies is absolutely bewildering.



Funny though.




rawlinson -> RE: BAFTA Noms (9/1/2013 1:47:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Harry Tuttle

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ORIGINAL: rawlinson


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ORIGINAL: steveg66

Might be blowing a trumpet for Empire but prefer your awards system for a start. BAFTA's always too pretentious. Amour? FFS! How many average film fans have actually heard of it let alone seen it?


So you're on a website dedicated to films complaining that one of the best reviewed films of the year shouldn't have been nominated because you haven't heard of it? The sense of entitlement some people have around awards ceremonies is absolutely bewildering.



Funny though.


It's going to be even funnier tomorrow when Nolan gets snubbed at the Oscars. [:D]




AxlReznor -> RE: BAFTA Noms (9/1/2013 1:50:15 PM)

It'll just prove once and for all that no matter how good a film is, if there's any connection with a comic book the old stuffy bastards who decide these things will ignore it. [;)]




Harry Tuttle -> RE: BAFTA Noms (9/1/2013 1:53:30 PM)


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It'll just prove once and for all that no matter how good a film is, if there's any connection with a comic book the old stuffy bastards who decide these things will ignore it. [;)]


Like the crusty old fuckers did with Heath Ledger's Joker.

Oh.. [;)]




AxlReznor -> RE: BAFTA Noms (9/1/2013 1:57:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Harry Tuttle


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ORIGINAL: AxlReznor

It'll just prove once and for all that no matter how good a film is, if there's any connection with a comic book the old stuffy bastards who decide these things will ignore it. [;)]


Like the crusty old fuckers did with Heath Ledger's Joker.

Oh.. [;)]


a) That wasn't a Best Picture/Director nomination, was it.
b) Do you think he'd have been nominated, let alone won if it wasn't for the fact that he died?




Ref -> RE: BAFTA Noms (9/1/2013 1:57:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Harry Tuttle


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ORIGINAL: AxlReznor

It'll just prove once and for all that no matter how good a film is, if there's any connection with a comic book the old stuffy bastards who decide these things will ignore it. [;)]


Like the crusty old fuckers did with Heath Ledger's Joker.

Oh.. [;)]


Yes, but then it was a 'special' case as the actor in question died. They wouldn't have nominated him otherwise, even-though it was a fantastic performance.

EDIT: Axl beat me to it.




Harry Tuttle -> RE: BAFTA Noms (9/1/2013 2:01:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: AxlReznor

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ORIGINAL: Harry Tuttle


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ORIGINAL: AxlReznor

It'll just prove once and for all that no matter how good a film is, if there's any connection with a comic book the old stuffy bastards who decide these things will ignore it. [;)]


Like the crusty old fuckers did with Heath Ledger's Joker.

Oh.. [;)]


a) That wasn't a Best Picture/Director nomination, was it.


But you said

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if there's any connection with a comic book the old stuffy bastards who decide these things will ignore it


I'd argue that, y'know, being the main villain in a film would count as a connection.

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b) Do you think he'd have been nominated, let alone won if it wasn't for the fact that he died?


That's conjecture. I do happen to agree with it btw but it's conjecture nonetheless.




Wild about Wilder -> RE: BAFTA Noms (9/1/2013 2:10:53 PM)

Great 3 out of the 5 films nominated for best film haven't even been released yet & only 3 of those got a best Director nod? As for Affleck getting a best Actor nomination W.T.F!!! [sm=huh.gif].
No nod for Bond? surprising considering it's British does a lot for the UK economy & broke the UK box office record still they did the same in snubbing Potter for so many years.




rawlinson -> RE: BAFTA Noms (9/1/2013 2:26:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: AxlReznor

a) That wasn't a Best Picture/Director nomination, was it.
b) Do you think he'd have been nominated, let alone won if it wasn't for the fact that he died?



A. No, but you said anything comic book related.

B. Yes. For two reasons

1. Because the number of people who get nominated after they die compared to the number of actors who die each year is incredibly small.

2. Because otherwise you're suggesting that the 1000+ members of the acting branch all decided to ignore voting for their actual favourite performance of the year in order to award a pity Oscar to a performance they would have otherwise ignored.

Also, this idea of the Academy being crusty old bastards. The Academy voters are the people who actually make the films. The same actors and directors who work on blockbusters and superhero films in the first place. And over the last few years they've nominated the likes of Avatar, Inception, District 9, Toy Story 3 and Inglorious Basterds. They're nominating films that have a younger audience, again, they just don't love Batman films as much as some people on this thread.




Gimli The Dwarf -> RE: BAFTA Noms (9/1/2013 2:28:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: rawlinson

They're nominating films that have a younger audience, again, they just don't love Batman films as much as some people on this thread.




And I'm pretty sure that, come tomorrow, they won't love The Hobbit as much as certain people (me!) on this thread [:D]




rawlinson -> RE: BAFTA Noms (9/1/2013 2:30:39 PM)

The Hobbit was always going to be a hard sell though, I think. They gave RotK 11 Oscars, it kind of seems like Jackson and Middle Earth have had their Oscar moment.




MonsterCat -> RE: (9/1/2013 2:34:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: steveg66

Might be blowing a trumpet for Empire but prefer your awards system for a start. BAFTA's always too pretentious. Amour? FFS! How many average film fans have actually heard of it let alone seen it? Ignoring Nolan and TDKR is criminal. And as a side note have just had a good chuckle at the Razzie noms for this year. Empire new story here please.


Lazy use of the term pretentious is lazy.




Gimli The Dwarf -> RE: BAFTA Noms (9/1/2013 2:38:05 PM)

Probably true. I donlt expect anything outside the technical awards and unlike last time I wouldn't be bothered if it wasn;t nominated for the big awards. But The Hobbit up for Best Picture would give me a film to root for for the first time in a decade [:D]




AxlReznor -> RE: BAFTA Noms (9/1/2013 2:40:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rawlinson

The Hobbit was always going to be a hard sell though, I think. They gave RotK 11 Oscars, it kind of seems like Jackson and Middle Earth have had their Oscar moment.


So you're saying that they wouldn't nominate it because they've already won enough instead of whether they actually think it's good enough to nominate? If you'd believe that, why's it so hard to believe they'd give Heath Ledger a pity vote?




rawlinson -> RE: BAFTA Noms (9/1/2013 2:48:25 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Gimli The Dwarf

Probably true. I donlt expect anything outside the technical awards and unlike last time I wouldn't be bothered if it wasn;t nominated for the big awards. But The Hobbit up for Best Picture would give me a film to root for for the first time in a decade [:D]


[:D] You weren't rooting for Toy Story 3 and Up when they got best picture noms? Bad Pixar fan! [;)]

The weird thing with this year is that it's still incredibly open. The fact that the actual number of best picture nominations is unknown makes things more difficult to predict. On top of that, usually you have a situation where all the guilds announce their nominations before the Oscar voting deadline closes, and the things that break through there kind of provide a guideline for voters for films to watch in a way. This year, the Oscars hit their deadline before the Baftas announced, before the DGA announced, etc. So a surprise nomination or snub might not have as much of an impact. Basically there's about six films that look fairly certain of a nomination with another four slots that could possibly be filled. The Hobbit might pull an upset, so might Dark Knight. But they're unlikely.

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So you're saying that they wouldn't nominate it because they've already won enough instead of whether they actually think it's good enough to nominate? If you'd believe that, why's it so hard to believe they'd give Heath Ledger a pity vote?


What you're saying is they rewarded a performance they thought was undeserving simply because the actor died. Which is just bizarre, because you have people voting for something they didn't care for simply because someone happened to die. Which is vastly different to liking a film, but thinking the series has been rewarded enough and putting something else they also like higher on their ballot as a result. One is about narrowing down the choices between films they like, the other is about voting for something they didn't like.




Gimli The Dwarf -> RE: BAFTA Noms (9/1/2013 2:52:18 PM)


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ORIGINAL: rawlinson


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ORIGINAL: Gimli The Dwarf

Probably true. I donlt expect anything outside the technical awards and unlike last time I wouldn't be bothered if it wasn;t nominated for the big awards. But The Hobbit up for Best Picture would give me a film to root for for the first time in a decade [:D]


[:D] You weren't rooting for Toy Story 3 and Up when they got best picture noms? Bad Pixar fan! [;)]


I should have said "non-animated film to root for". I'm stull gutted that both Up and TS3 lost [>:]




AxlReznor -> RE: BAFTA Noms (9/1/2013 2:54:21 PM)

It's been common knowledge now that voting for the major industry awards is not based on what the voters like. It's based on how well the filmmaker's did in their efforts to suck up to them. Everyone who's ever been involved in the process have said this.

An alternative process is to make a film about the Holocaust. [;)]




Ref -> RE: BAFTA Noms (9/1/2013 2:56:30 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Gimli The Dwarf

Probably true. I donlt expect anything outside the technical awards and unlike last time I wouldn't be bothered if it wasn;t nominated for the big awards. But The Hobbit up for Best Picture would give me a film to root for for the first time in a decade [:D]


Gimli, might get an acting nod for Armitage in TABA possibly - most likely not (as it's released in the summer rather than just before the awards season), but we can dream.




rawlinson -> RE: BAFTA Noms (9/1/2013 2:58:25 PM)


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ORIGINAL: AxlReznor

It's been common knowledge now that voting for the major industry awards is not based on what the voters like. It's based on how well the filmmaker's did in their efforts to suck up to them. Everyone who's ever been involved in the process have said this.



So you can provide links to where all 6000 of the current Academy members have said this?




AxlReznor -> RE: BAFTA Noms (9/1/2013 3:00:21 PM)

If I could be bothered I could find where people who have been nominated have said this. But I can't be bothered, so I won't.




Gimli The Dwarf -> RE: BAFTA Noms (9/1/2013 3:00:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Ref


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ORIGINAL: Gimli The Dwarf

Probably true. I donlt expect anything outside the technical awards and unlike last time I wouldn't be bothered if it wasn;t nominated for the big awards. But The Hobbit up for Best Picture would give me a film to root for for the first time in a decade [:D]


Gimli, might get an acting nod for Armitage in TABA possibly - most likely not (as it's released in the summer rather than just before the awards season), but we can dream.



As much as I liked him in the film, and presume I will in the sequels, I'd rather McKellen won, if only for losing out on FOTR. It'll never happen though.




Harry Tuttle -> RE: BAFTA Noms (9/1/2013 3:01:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Gimli The Dwarf


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ORIGINAL: rawlinson


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ORIGINAL: Gimli The Dwarf

Probably true. I donlt expect anything outside the technical awards and unlike last time I wouldn't be bothered if it wasn;t nominated for the big awards. But The Hobbit up for Best Picture would give me a film to root for for the first time in a decade [:D]


[:D] You weren't rooting for Toy Story 3 and Up when they got best picture noms? Bad Pixar fan! [;)]


I should have said "non-animated film to root for". I'm stull gutted that both Up and TS3 lost [>:]


I'm gutted Toy Story 3 lost as well. Maybe if it had won Best Picture it wouldn't have robbed How To Train Your Dragon of the animated feature award [:D].




AxlReznor -> RE: BAFTA Noms (9/1/2013 3:02:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Gimli The Dwarf

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ORIGINAL: Ref


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ORIGINAL: Gimli The Dwarf

Probably true. I donlt expect anything outside the technical awards and unlike last time I wouldn't be bothered if it wasn;t nominated for the big awards. But The Hobbit up for Best Picture would give me a film to root for for the first time in a decade [:D]


Gimli, might get an acting nod for Armitage in TABA possibly - most likely not (as it's released in the summer rather than just before the awards season), but we can dream.



As much as I liked him in the film, and presume I will in the sequels, I'd rather McKellen won, if only for losing out on FOTR. It'll never happen though.



I'd rather they accepted that motion captured performances are acting, too, and nominated Andy Serkis.




rawlinson -> RE: BAFTA Noms (9/1/2013 3:03:00 PM)


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ORIGINAL: AxlReznor

If I could be bothered I could find where people who have been nominated have said this. But I can't be bothered, so I won't.


So basically that's a no?

Seriously, some people complain about it. But the idea that it's everyone (and all of those 6000 are either Oscar nominees or people in the industry put forward by their peers) is just ludicrous.




Dannybohy -> RE: BAFTA Noms (9/1/2013 3:03:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: AxlReznor

It's been common knowledge now that voting for the major industry awards is not based on what the voters like. It's based on how well the filmmaker's did in their efforts to suck up to them. Everyone who's ever been involved in the process have said this.

An alternative process is to make a film about the Holocaust. [;)]

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