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pete_traynor -> (20/12/2012 11:45:54 AM)

Should The Dark Knight Rises be higher or lower… its inclusion at all is as confusing to me as the unintelligible nonsense that spewed from Bane mouth.



Hillsman -> No Matter What Anyone Says (20/12/2012 12:06:40 PM)

* Where is The Hunger Games?
* Looper should be MUCH higher on the list
* Avengers SHOULD have got 5 stars
* Dark Knight Rises should NOT - it was a mess, that has served only to tarnish the other films. When I first read that the story began with a retired and injured Bruce Wayne, I feared the worst. Batman retire?! After what? A few months in the cape after all those years of training and trying to find his purpose and method? Don't make me laugh. Whatever idiot came up with that should be hung.
* The usual bunch of foreign and indie films that most people won't bother with - call me an ignoramus, but as a hard-working professional, husband and father, I have to be pretty choosy about what I spent my limited free time watching.
* Why is The Hobbit not on the list? I hear its crap (and I LOVE the LOTR trilogy). It got 4 stars - shouldn't it be on there? Or is it really not worth the 4 stars that it got?!



guysalisbury -> Bad year (20/12/2012 12:40:46 PM)

All this list does is proves what a dissapointing year it has been for films. TDKR was Epic and the likes of Young Adult and Headhunters were also brilliant, but when Avengers Assemble can make the top of any list this really just compounds the woe. Chronicle was terrible and I'm really not sure the The Raid deserved alln the praise that it recieved. Anyway, its all just opinion so bring on 2013!



guysalisbury -> PS. (20/12/2012 12:44:18 PM)

So pleased the The Hobbit didnt make the list! Do one Middle Earth!



ianjohnston81 -> Fair enough... (20/12/2012 12:54:39 PM)

Decent list.

Avengers Assemble is worthy of the number one spot, although I do think The Dark Knight Rises should be a good bit lower.

Delighted to see Moonrise Kingdom, Headhunters and Rust and Bone in there.

The only glaring miss for me would be a contender for my number one - The Cabin in the Woods!!!!!!!



chris wootton -> (20/12/2012 1:03:01 PM)

I'm just pleased that Prometheus didn't make the list.. That film sucked ass



calumnorth -> Really? (20/12/2012 1:04:30 PM)

Avengers top? Looper not in the top 5? Hobbit not in at least the late teens? Seven Psychopaths also.... Weird list. Glad Hunger Games didn't make it though.



pablo94 -> Bizarre (20/12/2012 1:17:26 PM)

Avengers is certainly not the best film of 2012, Argo would be higher than Avengers,although Argo probably is second best film this year but Avengers certainly NOT number one. Also, where is Titanic? Glad Hobbit isn't there, Skyfall too high, Dark Knight Rises, way too high as well.

Totally bizarre list!



AnthonyR -> Over-rated Avengers (20/12/2012 1:25:03 PM)

"The Avengers" was entertaining, but hardly leaves enough of a lasting impression to be the best film of 2012. Second viewing of the film made me realize the film loses a lot of the excitement you get from the first viewing, doesn't hold up well to multiple viewings. Not the best superhero film of 2012, let alone best film. As a cinema experience, I thought The Hobbit was more rewarding than Avengers. Avengers was fast food, Hobbit was a 3 course meal. Though saying that, neither would have made my top 10 for the year.

Argo certainly worthy of being in the top 3, super film, my favourite this year.



AnthonyR -> Over-rated Avengers (20/12/2012 1:30:31 PM)

"The Avengers" was entertaining, but hardly leaves enough of a lasting impression to be the best film of 2012. Second viewing of the film made me realize the film loses a lot of the excitement you get from the first viewing, doesn't hold up well to multiple viewings. Not the best superhero film of 2012, let alone best film. As a cinema experience, I thought The Hobbit was more rewarding than Avengers. Avengers was fast food, Hobbit was a 3 course meal. Though saying that, neither would have made my top 10 for the year.

Argo certainly worthy of being in the top 3, super film, my favourite this year.



oxfordlover -> You Fools! (20/12/2012 1:32:16 PM)

Where the hell was The Hunger Games AND The Hobbit!!! Young Adult should not be on there at all! Life of Pi hasn't even come out yet!!! Seriously why isnt The Hobbit on the list, it was amazing, anyone who who complains about it is just hating on a successful film, just like Titanic all over again!



kojaksmoneybox -> (20/12/2012 1:48:33 PM)

Oh please not The Avengers. A risible movie of epic proportions.

What I find very odd is this line about The Raid:

"the best action movie of the year – hell, of the last 20 years, and a strong contender for best of all time."

I completely agree with Empire on this and I am delighted by the coverage you gave this movie and the continual love for it. But...

If The Raid is in fact one of the best action movies of all time, how is it lower than The Avengers which, although a comic book movie, is still fairly action based? To say that about The Raid and then put it at no. 8 below Skyfall and The Avengers is very odd.

I can only think that you don't have the balls to credit that movie as the best of the year as maybe Josh Whedon won't grant you "exclusive" access to the Avengers 2 set if you do.

Amour at no. 19 - means there are 18 better movies than that for the year - wow.

The Imposter - 16 - best documentary of the year - again odd.

Looper - 14 - 2nd best studio movie of the year after Batman, so another lowly position.

AVClub has a much better top 20.







Filmfan 2 -> RE: You Fools! (20/12/2012 1:49:22 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: oxfordlover

Seriously why isnt The Hobbit on the list, it was amazing, anyone who who complains about it is just hating on a successful film, just like Titanic all over again!



What a load of idiotic nonsense!



FilmFan123 -> (20/12/2012 1:56:30 PM)

The Avengers is incredibly over-rated. While the final act is excellent fun, the first two are ever so slightly dull. And people complain about The Dark Knight Rises' plot-holes (quite rightly, too) but The Avengers is also guilty of them.
I think that while 2012 has been a great year for movies, there haven't been too many perfect films. I would put Amour at number 1. It was very hard to sit through but the performances and Haneke's direction are both flawless.



seven28uk -> Number 1? (20/12/2012 2:04:19 PM)

I like/love a lot of films on this list, and there are other i'm desperate to see.
Although I was a bit disappointed walking out of The Avengers i would say it might have the most re-watch-ability(is that a word?), but i don't think it's number 1.
The Raid should be higher, as should Moonrise Kingdom & Looper.



jameshrave -> (20/12/2012 2:05:21 PM)

Avengers was a terrifically fun film, I'm not sure whether it's the best film of 2012 - to be honest I can't decide which I think is the best, it was a very enjoyable and strong year.

I'm glad Moonrise Kingdom and The Raid are up there. I'm surprised by the omission of The Master though.



seven28uk -> What happened to these? (20/12/2012 2:08:02 PM)

These should be high on the list.
The Grey
&
The Cabin In The Woods



dandancantfly -> Stick it back in..it fell out (20/12/2012 2:11:46 PM)

Good to see Holy Motors and Amour up their as they both hold spots in my top 5 but quite disappointed at the lack of Shame and The Master. I personally can't see past The Master as the best of the year, it knocked me for six at first viewing. I didn't know what to think but once it fully settled I just couldn't shake it. Shame had a similar response in me.



twiddle -> Very random list (20/12/2012 2:21:59 PM)

If this was the greatest indie films of 2012, then fair enough but quite how almost the entire list are low budget but worthy films with only a smattering of “big films” is weird. I hated the Master but it's an indie film and Empire gave that 5 stars so why is that on the list? After all these very worthy character driven films we end up with the popcorn noise of the Avengers at number1!? It’s not even the best super hero film of the year.

Of course it’s all opinion but when the purported logic it’s based on breaks down it’s a completely random list. No kids films either- Pirates an Adventure with Scientists was perfect 5 star family fun film and at a push you could argue Brave or Rise of the Guardians should be on there too. Or do kids film not count? Not even the good ones? Oh and finally, surely the Hobbit could have been shoehorned onto the list…no?



twiddle -> Very random list (20/12/2012 2:22:25 PM)

If this was the greatest indie films of 2012, then fair enough but quite how almost the entire list are low budget but worthy films with only a smattering of “big films” is weird. I hated the Master but it's an indie film and Empire gave that 5 stars so why is that on the list? After all these very worthy character driven films we end up with the popcorn noise of the Avengers at number1!? It’s not even the best super hero film of the year.

Of course it’s all opinion but when the purported logic it’s based on breaks down it’s a completely random list. No kids films either- Pirates an Adventure with Scientists was perfect 5 star family fun film and at a push you could argue Brave or Rise of the Guardians should be on there too. Or do kids film not count? Not even the good ones? Oh and finally, surely the Hobbit could have been shoehorned onto the list…no?



MikeTheActorMan -> Haven't even HEARD of some of these... (20/12/2012 2:23:34 PM)

I would have thought The Hobbit, The Hunger Games, and Cloud Atlas would have made the list! They were pretty big films... or are we not counting Cloud Atlas because it's not out in the UK till 2013?



AmityLS -> (20/12/2012 2:40:04 PM)

The Hobbit is hands down the film of the year. The critical response (not Empire's but in general) is perhaps the most bemusing reaction to a film i have seen in many a year. A lot of good films on this list however, Skyfall, Dark Knight Rises and The Raid in particular. The Avengers, while a fun distraction for a few hours is not a film of the year by any stretch, unless you want a blockbuster film that feels like syfy tv movie of the week that is.



owenyunfat -> RE: (20/12/2012 2:52:30 PM)

Totally agree with seven28uk - The Grey was brilliant, totally sucked me in and I have never researched so much about wolves until after seeing that film! Cabin in the Woods, although different, not exactly a film of the year top 20. I have only seen half of the films on the list - Headhunters a good call. Avengers, hmmmmmmmmmm....



faulknerdrummer -> Err... (20/12/2012 2:57:16 PM)

Come on Empire, everyone knows a Hobbit and Skyfall 1-2 is the only real choice for this list!

Clicking through to number 1, Avengers is a bemusing choice for top spot. How can you say it is film of the year when you only gave it 4 stars (which was one too high anyway)? Bloated and boring.

Some great films in there, but would have thought The Hunger Games would have made it in somewhere too.



joe (mavrick) horton -> (20/12/2012 4:01:38 PM)

wheres silver linings playbook and end of watch? skyfall shouldnt be in it because that was one of the worst blockbusters of the year. and sure young adult and cronical were out last year. 21 jump street should also of been in it



filmfanaticfred -> No surprises here... (20/12/2012 5:01:28 PM)

Decent list. I may disagree with some choices (major one being number one) but Empire's been bumming Avengers since before it was even out, so it's hardly a surprise. Seriously, all those who are complaining, do you even read the magazine? Make your own list if you feel that strongly about it.



natman_begins -> Chronicle? Really? (20/12/2012 5:30:40 PM)

How did Chronicle get in there please? I thought it was okay but I think it could have been a better film if they had just shitcanned the "found footage" idea and just gone with they audience's perspective.
The absence of The Hobbit and Hunger Games also came a huge surprise, I thought both were quite excellent



bnicholson50 -> Very Artsy List (20/12/2012 6:07:56 PM)

While all of the movies on the list are great, I find the list to be a bit "artsy". No comedies on the list? what about Cabin in the woods, Ted or 21 Jump Street. There's no animation either. What about Pirates, Brave, Paranorman or Frankenweenie..... and where the hell is Killer Joe?



thornhill -> (20/12/2012 6:46:29 PM)

The Master ???



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