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Dannybohy -> RE: Man of Steel (13/12/2012 12:15:19 PM)
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ORIGINAL: AxlReznor
I liked Richard Donner's movie for the first half. But then Lex Luthor was introduced, and the whole movie went to hell every time he and his two idiotic sidekicks were on screen. Then whenever Superman is on screen he has the cheesiest smile plastered on his face for no damn reason. Then Superman takes Lois for a flight, and her voiceover recites cheesy poetry for no reason. Then when I didn't think it could get any worse, Lois dies and Superman goes back in time to save her (a talent he never makes use of before or after). If they'd kept the tone of the first half of the movie throughout, it would be great, but as it is it's the closest to a good live action movie Superman has so far.
Bryan Singer's movie is great up until the plane sequence... then absolutely nothing exciting happens for the entirety of the rest of the movie. I'm a fan of the Dark Knight Trilogy, so it's obvious I'm all for a superhero movie that takes things more seriously. But Nolan knew not to put his best setpiece at the beginning of the movie and then have a whole lot of nothing happen for the rest of it. Some people have problems with the casting of Lois, or the son of Superman sub-plot. I don't have problems with any of that... just how completely dull it is. Plus, Luthor's plot is pretty much identical to the first movie... as if he just has a really small cycle of evil plots, and when they all fail he just goes back to the beginning.
I think this trailer is just a statement of intent. Letting everyone know that yes this will be a serious take on Superman throughout. No jarring intended-to-be-funny-but-utterly-unfunny takes on the villains that we've grown accustomed to, and some epic action thrown in, too. Pretty much looks like the best of the previous movies without the worst to me. Of course, time will tell... Snyder and Nolan could fall into the exact same traps that Singer did. But this looks a lot more promising than I thought it would when I first heard about it. As far as I'm concerned, if every superhero movie followed the same formula as The Avengers, I'd get very bored of them quite quickly. I like that the Marvel Cinematic Universe, X-Men, Spider-Man, Batman, and now Superman very much follow their own formulas so that even though all of them do similar things, they do them in their own way and keep things fresh.
There's a reason that since 2008, these kind of movies have consistently been the best blockbusters being released every year (not counting things like Inception, which I think did better than most people expected it ever would, obviously).
I am replying as I thought it only polite, even though you have a very different opinion on Nolan and this new Superman.
I agree with your critique on Donner and Singer. Donner's has a lot of issues, for me however they are mostly issues that couldn't be helped due to technology so I forgive him. My kids still watch them and they get excited every time they see Reeves change to Superman! my oldest asked me to rewind it again. Agreed, The Louis flight scene is unforgivable! for me its the equivalent of any scene in Nolan's trilogy where Alfred is monologuing!. The back in time is also a shame! what was he thinking!. I would of let the skinny fag hag die myself.
Singers, I liked three parts and three only, the whole movie for me was a crushingly disappointing experience that I will never forgive Singer for. I got over the homoerotic suit design. I liked the plane scene apart from the dodgy CGi. I liked the physics of it, nice. I loved the scene when hes floating in space with eyes closed, they open , he zooms down to save everyone!, great. And I loved the bullet to the eye scene. I despised the rest, the son of superman sub plot, Lex, Louis and the fact that the whole main plot was identical to Donners.
The trailer for me looks like a checklist of stuff that should be in Superman because its already been in Superman.(Kent farm/Young Clark in plaid shirt/papa Kent in plaid shirt/ Jesus Christ pose this time in water instead of space/Yellow School Bus in peril etc etc yadder yadder, yawn). I was hoping for some truly original clips to prove that this was going to be something truly new. So far it looks like the plot of Superman II with Returns visuals and extra space ships. The space ships look like every other alien craft in a movie the last decade!. I think they have fallen into a trap of taking the Nolan DK format into Superman assuming that it will work!.
Its no secret I am not a Nolan fan, I think the hype around his trilogy is absurd! I hate Nolan's name coming up in every discussion on upcoming movies. But just to set the record straight, I liked Batman Begins, thought it was a great start (apart from the growly voice), I was looking forward to TDK and heaths Joker was excellent, but I starting seeing all the scenes i've seen already in Burton's versions! and then TDKR , this is the movie that riles me! I was "what the actual fuck!! is this shit" it was like a slightly different version of TDK but we ain't supposed to notice. I was bored out of my mind, the Alfred parts made me want to curl up into my own asshole and I was laughing at the plot holes as they happened!. Sorry I know this is about Superman, but I see the Nolan influence and repeated imagery in the trailer and it makes a grown man cry. I think dark and gritty works for Batman, I don't think the Nolan 'real world' (Dull and pretentious) approach works for Batman let alone Superman!. I had higher hopes when I thought it was just a Snyder vehicle! I personally love most of his movies. Time will tell, and Ill be going to see it either way, i will try not to judge it based on Nolan batman movies, hey maybe the Snyder/Nolan mix will actually make for a great combo!!.
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