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spark1 -> Bond 24 - 2015 (26/10/2012 10:18:10 AM)

wade, purvis stand down after 13 years, logan solo script for next 007-

http://www.mi6-hq.com/news/index.php?itemid=10549&t=mi6&s=news







spark1 -> RE: Bond 24 - 2014 (26/10/2012 4:02:41 PM)

spoilers if you have not seen SF yet-













http://commanderbond.net/16151/the-future-of-mi6-major-skyfall-spoilers.html




Deviation -> RE: Bond 24 - 2014 (26/10/2012 6:39:34 PM)

Quantum won't just be forgotten about right?




directorscut -> RE: Bond 24 - 2014 (26/10/2012 9:23:25 PM)

Fassbender Bond yet?




musht -> RE: Bond 24 - 2014 (26/10/2012 10:28:40 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Deviation

Quantum won't just be forgotten about right?


I really hope not. I know QoS wasn't well received (I really enjoyed it) but to get rid of Quantum altogether would be silly. I was really hoping the file handed over to Bond at the end of Skyfall might have the name Quantum on it or something but no luck.




Deviation -> RE: Bond 24 - 2014 (28/10/2012 4:09:48 PM)

For a second, while watching Skyfall I thought that Silva might have been working with them (albiet he was more independent) and that Quantum were the ones who tortured him. But then I thought that Quantum existing from the late 80s and nobody noticing is probably silly.

Also, not just QoS but CR as well. Le Chiffre was tied to them. That's two initial films in the franchise you can't just forget they ever happened. Skyfall even followed QoS' M being maternal theme and made it a focus.




Scruffybobby -> RE: Bond 24 - 2014 (28/10/2012 5:18:13 PM)

hmmm....

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=35620




musht -> RE: Bond 24 - 2014 (28/10/2012 5:49:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Scruffybobby

hmmm....

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=35620


Interesting that they're going to be linked again. If they both concern the same villain (Quantum hopefully) that would be grand, but I don't think I'd like another two parter with a direct sequel a-la CR/QoS




Private Hudson -> RE: Bond 24 - 2014 (28/10/2012 7:16:19 PM)

Well I do like the idea of a 2 parter... and surely we would have Quantum involved in that?

SPECTRE worked in the 60s because they couldn't directly use the Soviets as rivals, so if we have no direct rivals and they don't want to go anywhere near Arab Terrorists (for good reasons) then Quantum are actually a good choice.

Here's some things I would like to see:

- RISICO used as a title (plot elements were used in FYEO about smugglers, but that could still be re-used, as Quantum could be involved)

- Gala Brand as a Bond girl in 24 or 25 (heroine of Moonraker, the book)

- Vivienne Michel as a Bond girl in 24 or 25 (the book of TSWLM)

- Bond brainwashed and trying to kill M (as what happens in the book of TMWTGG)

- Bond getting a knighthood (TMWTGG)

- Mr White getting caught and sorted out!

- Bond visiting Australia and New Zealand - he's never been there before!




Deviation -> RE: Bond 24 - 2014 (28/10/2012 7:30:13 PM)

Bond being knighted so early seems silly though. It's more of a way to get him more recognized worldwide.

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- Bond visiting Australia and New Zealand - he's never been there before!


OZPLOITATION BOND[:D]





Private Hudson -> RE: Bond 24 - 2014 (28/10/2012 7:36:18 PM)

I suppose so. Though I can't remember if he actually declines. I read them all when I was at school, well all the novels (didn't read the short story collections).




Vadersville -> RE: Bond 24 - 2014 (29/10/2012 9:35:58 AM)

Sadly, I doubt Mr. White will ever return now. The actor has gone on record saying he hated the experience and will never do a Bond film again. Aldo, a knighthood for Bond would be silly. It immediately made me think of the end of Johnny English...




Timon -> RE: Bond 24 - 2014 (29/10/2012 9:39:12 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Vadersville

Sadly, I doubt Mr. White will ever return now. The actor has gone on record saying he hated the experience and will never do a Bond film again. Aldo, a knighthood for Bond would be silly. It immediately made me think of the end of Johnny English...



http://www.mi6-hq.com/news/index.php?itemid=8330

Yeah, he really seemed to hate it.

Ah well, recast the role or just get another QUANTUM acolyte in.




TomTron -> RE: Bond 24 - 2014 (29/10/2012 10:55:29 AM)

I seriously doubt that they will bring back Quantum. QoS was an embarrassment to all involved, most of all Craig, who has gone on record as saying that he did not like it. Revisting it, and to some extent Casino Royale, would not be progressive and the series would just take a step back. Skyfall kick started life into the franchise once again and Logan needs to follow suit with these next two; by making it a personal story for Bond. Also, those last few Fleming titles that haven't been used yet (Risico, Property Of A Lady, The Hildebrand Rarity) would all make terrible names for films!




Vadersville -> RE: Bond 24 - 2014 (29/10/2012 4:43:45 PM)

I disagree with everything in your post. Quantum of Solace is still my favourte out of all three of Craig's Bonds. It's his From Russia With Love and I never understand the hate for it. Also, the organisation, Quantum has to be re-addresed at some point, otherwise the previous two films have set up this big bad for nothing. It doesn't matter if it wasn't in Skyfall, it wasn't mentioned in Goldfinger either but came back in Thunderball. Also, whilst The Hildebrand Rarity is a terrible name for a film (So is James Bond in New York by the way), Risico and Property of a Lady would actually be pretty cool.




Deviation -> RE: Bond 24 - 2014 (29/10/2012 6:41:22 PM)

Skyfall also did follow things set up in QoS like M being a maternal figure for Bond and made them the centerpoint. I don't think Bond 24 will forget the existence of Quantum just because of a "poor" film. Avoiding Quantum would be like the Connery Bonds suddenly forgetting of SPECTRE and Blofeld after From Russia with Love, quite stupid.




TomTron -> RE: Bond 24 - 2014 (29/10/2012 8:01:06 PM)

Just because it's a two-film story arc doesn't necessarily mean that both films will have consistent antagonists. Also, do you not wonder why they abandoned using Quantum in Skyfall? It seemed to distance itself from being any sort of sequel to those two films, for the best, since they used the modified DB5, Silva speaks of being an agent at around the same time as Bond in the 90s (Casino Royale is set in 2006) and there's much talk of Bond being a veteran agent rather than him having gained his 007 status relatively recently. I'm all for the idea of Craig's Bond going up against a potentially world-dominating organisation, its just that the idea of it being Quantum seems just dull and lazy.




Vadersville -> RE: Bond 24 - 2014 (29/10/2012 8:17:33 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Deviation

Skyfall also did follow things set up in QoS like M being a maternal figure for Bond and made them the centerpoint. I don't think Bond 24 will forget the existence of Quantum just because of a "poor" film. Avoiding Quantum would be like the Connery Bonds suddenly forgetting of SPECTRE and Blofeld after From Russia with Love, quite stupid.


Yeah, completley agree. Apart from the bit about QoS being a poor film.


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ORIGINAL: TomTron

Just because it's a two-film story arc doesn't necessarily mean that both films will have consistent antagonists. Also, do you not wonder why they abandoned using Quantum in Skyfall? It seemed to distance itself from being any sort of sequel to those two films, for the best, since they used the modified DB5, Silva speaks of being an agent at around the same time as Bond in the 90s (Casino Royale is set in 2006) and there's much talk of Bond being a veteran agent rather than him having gained his 007 status relatively recently. I'm all for the idea of Craig's Bond going up against potentially world-dominating organisation, its just that the idea of it being Quantum seems just dull and lazy.


What? What? Who said that it would be the same antagonist in both films? Who said that Quantum has been abadoned? As I pointed out earlier, SPECTRE skipped over Goldfinger and re-appeared in Thunderball so why couldn't Quantum do the same here? I was wondering when some fool would try to make out that the DB5 proved that Skyfall happened in the same continuity as the old films. It was just a little nod to whats come before because of the 50th anniversary and Sam Mendes has already said it was his one demand when taking on the film. Silva wasn't an agent at the same time as Bond, he even says that he used to be M's favourite, back when she was stationed in Hong Kong. We know that M was already head of MI6 when Bond got 00 status because it was her who promoted him in Casino Royale. There is definitley a gap between QoS and Skyfall, granted, and Bond here is more of a battle-worn agent than the young hothead of the previous two (another reason why I think it has a lot in common with DKR) but that's the logical progression of how the new series is progressing rather than a sudden jump back to the old continuity.




Deviation -> RE: Bond 24 - 2014 (29/10/2012 8:41:33 PM)

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Yeah, completley agree. Apart from the bit about QoS being a poor film.


That was meant to mean it's perception. I liked it.




Vadersville -> RE: Bond 24 - 2014 (29/10/2012 8:43:20 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Deviation

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Yeah, completley agree. Apart from the bit about QoS being a poor film.


That was meant to mean it's perception. I liked it.


In that case I completley agree with everything. [:D]




TomTron -> RE: Bond 24 - 2014 (29/10/2012 8:52:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Vadersville


quote:

ORIGINAL: Deviation

Skyfall also did follow things set up in QoS like M being a maternal figure for Bond and made them the centerpoint. I don't think Bond 24 will forget the existence of Quantum just because of a "poor" film. Avoiding Quantum would be like the Connery Bonds suddenly forgetting of SPECTRE and Blofeld after From Russia with Love, quite stupid.


Yeah, completley agree. Apart from the bit about QoS being a poor film.


quote:

ORIGINAL: TomTron

Just because it's a two-film story arc doesn't necessarily mean that both films will have consistent antagonists. Also, do you not wonder why they abandoned using Quantum in Skyfall? It seemed to distance itself from being any sort of sequel to those two films, for the best, since they used the modified DB5, Silva speaks of being an agent at around the same time as Bond in the 90s (Casino Royale is set in 2006) and there's much talk of Bond being a veteran agent rather than him having gained his 007 status relatively recently. I'm all for the idea of Craig's Bond going up against potentially world-dominating organisation, its just that the idea of it being Quantum seems just dull and lazy.


What? What? Who said that it would be the same antagonist in both films? Who said that Quantum has been abadoned? As I pointed out earlier, SPECTRE skipped over Goldfinger and re-appeared in Thunderball so why couldn't Quantum do the same here? I was wondering when some fool would try to make out that the DB5 proved that Skyfall happened in the same continuity as the old films. It was just a little nod to whats come before because of the 50th anniversary and Sam Mendes has already said it was his one demand when taking on the film. Silva wasn't an agent at the same time as Bond, he even says that he used to be M's favourite, back when she was stationed in Hong Kong. We know that M was already head of MI6 when Bond got 00 status because it was her who promoted him in Casino Royale. There is definitley a gap between QoS and Skyfall, granted, and Bond here is more of a battle-worn agent than the young hothead of the previous two (another reason why I think it has a lot in common with DKR) but that's the logical progression of how the new series is progressing rather than a sudden jump back to the old continuity.


Nobody said they would be the same antagonists, but people bringing up Quantum again would suggest that they would want to see Bond attempt to bring them down over the course of two films. Yeah, SPECTRE was skipped one film over, but SPECTRE had Blofeld, Bond's primary adversary; a character of mystery that had yet to be completely unveiled in the films, so there was a good enough reason to revisit the organisation. Also the members of SPECTRE were a group of unique and memorable villains, Quantum had none of that. They were just a bunch of middle aged men in suits who go to the opera and plot to steal water!

I didn't take the DB5 inclusion as an admission that Skyfall was in the same continuity as Goldfinger at all but, other than it's obvious inclusion for the 50th Anniversary, just that he's been around for quite a while, almost as long as the car; both for us and as a character. No problem with you liking QoS - afterall everyone has their favourite of the series - but surely you understand why people dislike it?




Vadersville -> RE: Bond 24 - 2014 (29/10/2012 9:55:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: TomTron

Nobody said they would be the same antagonists, but people bringing up Quantum again would suggest that they would want to see Bond attempt to bring them down over the course of two films. Yeah, SPECTRE was skipped one film over, but SPECTRE had Blofeld, Bond's primary adversary; a character of mystery that had yet to be completely unveiled in the films, so there was a good enough reason to revisit the organisation. Also the members of SPECTRE were a group of unique and memorable villains, Quantum had none of that. They were just a bunch of middle aged men in suits who go to the opera and plot to steal water!


Same antagonist and same shadowy organisation behind things can mean two different things though (bad example but the Ten Rings organisation who kidnapped Stark in Iron Man and then funded Whiplash's flight to Monaco in Iron Man 2 are now going to be the organisation run by the Mandarin in Iron Man 3, judging by the trailer.) I doubt we've seen the main villian behind Quantum yet, and your point is a bit of a moot one as until You Only Live Twice he was just a man in a suit, stroking a cat anyway.


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ORIGINAL: TomTron

I didn't take the DB5 inclusion as an admission that Skyfall was in the same continuity as Goldfinger at all but, other than it's obvious inclusion for the 50th Anniversary, just that he's been around for quite a while, almost as long as the car; both for us and as a character. No problem with you liking QoS - afterall everyone has their favourite of the series - but surely you understand why people dislike it?


Nope. Not really. I get that everyone has their own opinion and that's fine, but the hatred it stirs up is just as baffling to me as the claims that it's "Not a Bond movie".






spark1 -> RE: Bond 24 - 2014 (30/10/2012 1:19:10 PM)

they really have to do something about that gunbarrel.

the OoS one is awful.

way better to use this one-



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVLRsQuTebA&safe=active




musht -> RE: Bond 24 - 2014 (30/10/2012 7:19:58 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: spark1

they really have to do something about that gunbarrel.

the OoS one is awful.

way better to use this one-



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVLRsQuTebA&safe=active


I can't people track of all the people who care about this, I'll have to keep a list




spark1 -> RE: Bond 24 - 2014 (31/10/2012 2:00:26 PM)

spoiler-









m ended her run mired in controversy and scrutiny by the politicians.

how will mallory fare in this new world of spies?




musht -> RE: Bond 24 - 2014 (31/10/2012 3:57:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: spark1

spoiler-









m ended her run mired in controversy and scrutiny by the politicians.

how will mallory fare in this new world of spies?


I'm interested to see the relationship between him and Bond. We know now has a respect for Mallory but they can't make it too personal as we don't to retread old ground. I think Mallory will always as a distaste for Bond as he thinks he's outdated but at the same time he's necessary.

I'm really interested to see how Q branch will progress, I really don't want OTT gadgets but where to draw the line?

Also, does anyone else have a hankering to see Craig bring back the hat, he doesn't have to wear it but I wouldn't mind seeing him toss it onto a coat hanger in Moneypenny's office, just for old time's sake.




musht -> RE: Bond 24 - 2014 (31/10/2012 3:59:51 PM)

Spoilers

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ORIGINAL: musht


quote:

ORIGINAL: spark1

spoiler-









m ended her run mired in controversy and scrutiny by the politicians.

how will mallory fare in this new world of spies?


I'm interested to see the relationship between him and Bond. We know now has a respect for Mallory but they can't make it too personal as we don't to retread old ground. I think Mallory will always as a distaste for Bond as he thinks he's outdated but at the same time he's necessary.

I'm really interested to see how Q branch will progress, I really don't want OTT gadgets but where to draw the line?

Also, does anyone else have a hankering to see Craig bring back the hat, he doesn't have to wear it but I wouldn't mind seeing him toss it onto a coat hanger in Moneypenny's office, just for old time's sake.





TomTron -> RE: Bond 24 - 2014 (31/10/2012 6:19:19 PM)

Daniel Craig denies that Bond 24, 25 will be two-parter

Phew!





homersimpson_esq -> RE: Bond 24 - 2014 (1/11/2012 12:57:37 AM)


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ORIGINAL: musht

Also, does anyone else have a hankering to see Craig toss it onto Moneypenny.


Not really.




musht -> RE: Bond 24 - 2014 (1/11/2012 12:50:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: homersimpson_esq


quote:

ORIGINAL: musht

Also, does anyone else have a hankering to see Craig toss it onto Moneypenny.


Not really.


Well someone should




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