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Woger -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (11/10/2012 5:27:54 PM)

I wonder will there be allegations from before he got famous; did he do the charity work to get himself into a position of power so he could hide behind it in order to carry out the alleged acts?




Darth Marenghi -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (11/10/2012 9:22:40 PM)


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ORIGINAL: elab49

There seems to be a pattern of abusing those least likely to be believed.



Yeah, I think it was that section of the ITV documentary that was the convincing part. As with that gang in Rochdale recently, it would appear to be a technique that works all too well. [&:]




Base -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (11/10/2012 10:24:15 PM)

It's unbelievable, but then again, that seems to be exactly how he wanted it and how he got away with it. He was clearly very intelligent, but the lengths he went to (if we assume that all of the charity work and the image he created for himself were all to get him access to his victims while making it so hard for him to even be accused) is nothing short of monstrous!!! Of course it should still be investigated, some of the accusations will be attention seekers, but the evidence is overwhelming and damning. The victims deserve to be heard, and lessons absolutely have to be learnt!

There was a long thread on here when he died full of praise for what he did, I'm pretty sure I said something positive about him in it, and I'm sickened by it. Have to agree with Johnson, dig the bastard up and hang him anyway! [:@]




Super Hans -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (12/10/2012 1:47:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Fluke Skywalker

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/savile-had-keys-broadmoor-113711849.html

Now they are saying he had keys to Broadmoor hospital and carried out his molestations in there as well. What the fuck is going on - it's like he was some kind of unstoppable super-paedo [:@]


Savile's new legacy: inspring the phrase 'super-paedo', where describing one merely as a paedo seems woefully inadequate...

Spotted this article this morning through Twitter which highlighted to me another darkly comical impact of this terrible situation:

http://news.sky.com/story/996611/buyer-of-jimmy-saviles-rolls-royce-gutted

Oh, the plight of folks spending silly money on his possessions which are now decidedly less valuable...

"Its new owner, from Poole in Dorset, said he bought the vehicle over the telephone "on a whim", but now his plans to hire it out for weddings and children's parties are ruined."

"A lot of people spent a lot of money on that stuff, tracksuits and that, and they've got to burn them now because they're worth nothing."


Just two quotes which, I'm ashamed to say, raised a guilty chuckle with me on my commute this morning. Could there be a worse item to have blown silly money on than a nonce's tracksuit?[:D]




UTB -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (12/10/2012 1:53:06 PM)

Has this Jerry Sadowitz bit been posted yet? From 1987... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMYK9hqG9jo.

Posting it as an 'interesting piece' rather than 'here is the evidence..'




great_badir -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (12/10/2012 1:54:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Super Hans
I'm ashamed to say, raised a guilty chuckle with me


Which is how I just responded when I read Fluke's "unstoppable super-paedo" line.




Beno -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (12/10/2012 4:03:30 PM)

Im not sure if this has been mentioned in this thread already but why where alarm bells not ringing when that Louis Theroux documentary with Savile was aired in the year 2000. At the time i recall thinking Savile came across as a bit of a knob who had an over inflated opinion of himself who didnt seem to like women but know its like all the pieces of the jigsaw of that doc have fallen into place.
Savile came across as a controlling and intimidating figure with an extreme egotistical manner. A couple of times i recall Savile getting very annoyed with Theroux's line of questioning. I feel certain one of these questions hinted at things that are being revealed today. Just what did the makers of this documentary have in their research? Or was it based on rumour?


I need to watch this documentary again.




Super Hans -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (12/10/2012 4:26:47 PM)


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ORIGINAL: great_badir

quote:

ORIGINAL: Super Hans
I'm ashamed to say, raised a guilty chuckle with me


Which is how I just responded when I read Fluke's "unstoppable super-paedo" line.



Me too.[:D]




superdan -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (12/10/2012 4:32:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Super Hans


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ORIGINAL: great_badir

quote:

ORIGINAL: Super Hans
I'm ashamed to say, raised a guilty chuckle with me


Which is how I just responded when I read Fluke's "unstoppable super-paedo" line.



Me too.[:D]


Me three [:D]




Rhubarb -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (12/10/2012 4:35:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Beno

Im not sure if this has been mentioned in this thread already but why where alarm bells not ringing when that Louis Theroux documentary with Savile was aired in the year 2000. At the time i recall thinking Savile came across as a bit of a knob who had an over inflated opinion of himself who didnt seem to like women but know its like all the pieces of the jigsaw of that doc have fallen into place.
Savile came across as a controlling and intimidating figure with an extreme egotistical manner. A couple of times i recall Savile getting very annoyed with Theroux's line of questioning. I feel certain one of these questions hinted at things that are being revealed today. Just what did the makers of this documentary have in their research? Or was it based on rumour?




Because if "alarm bells rang" every time you thought someone was arrogant and hated women, unfortunatly you would spend quite alot of your time thinking people were peadophiles.




elab49 -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (12/10/2012 5:30:30 PM)

I didn't see it but doesn't Beno mean that you could view a couple of the questions asked quite differently today - so he's asking did the producers know anything and were they hinting at anything? 




porntrooper -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (12/10/2012 6:04:30 PM)

'Nonce Tracksuit' and 'Unstoppable Super-Peado' both made me laugh more than I should admit.




horribleives -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (13/10/2012 1:35:18 PM)

Anyone ever read the Irvine Welsh novella Lorraine Goes To Livingston?




Beno -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (14/10/2012 3:39:25 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Rhubarb

quote:

ORIGINAL: Beno

Im not sure if this has been mentioned in this thread already but why where alarm bells not ringing when that Louis Theroux documentary with Savile was aired in the year 2000. At the time i recall thinking Savile came across as a bit of a knob who had an over inflated opinion of himself who didnt seem to like women but know its like all the pieces of the jigsaw of that doc have fallen into place.
Savile came across as a controlling and intimidating figure with an extreme egotistical manner. A couple of times i recall Savile getting very annoyed with Theroux's line of questioning. I feel certain one of these questions hinted at things that are being revealed today. Just what did the makers of this documentary have in their research? Or was it based on rumour?




Because if "alarm bells rang" every time you thought someone was arrogant and hated women, unfortunatly you would spend quite alot of your time thinking people were peadophiles.



I was meaning to focus on the fact that the makers of this Doc. seemed to know 'something' rather than his ego.




horribleives -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (15/10/2012 6:36:50 AM)


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ORIGINAL: horribleives

Anyone ever read the Irvine Welsh novella Lorraine Goes To Livingston?


No one? Well give it a read and tell me if Freddy Royle reminds you of anyone.




jonson -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (15/10/2012 7:53:34 AM)

Rumours abound now that Jeremy Beadle might have had a small hand in it.




superdan -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (15/10/2012 8:59:25 AM)


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ORIGINAL: jonson

Rumours abound now that Jeremy Beadle might have had a small hand in it.


[:D]




great_badir -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (15/10/2012 1:28:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: superdan
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ORIGINAL: jonson

Rumours abound now that Jeremy Beadle might have had a small hand in it.


[:D]



HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

(for the lawyers - jonson was joking - we are not suggest that Beadle-bum was a tier 2 unstoppable peado)

But, with regard to some people "knowing something" - I think Ian Hislop put it best in last week's HIGNFY, basically everyone knew the rumours, but they were just that. No on KNEW that it WAS going on, and otherwise most people just thought what a fairly not-too-nice person he was. But, as Rhub intimated on the previous page, that is no reason to suspect someone of being a nonce.




Shifty Bench -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (15/10/2012 6:58:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: jonson

Rumours abound now that Jeremy Beadle might have had a small hand in it.



Oh, fuck......

I don't know who is worse, you for making that joke or me for laughing at it [sm=augen14.gif]




Woger -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (19/10/2012 2:36:17 PM)

Bloody hell.
http://21stcenturywire.com/2012/10/11/i-ran-the-gauntlet-of-pedophiles-in-the-entertainment-industry-says-former-child-actor/




jon5000 -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (19/10/2012 4:28:13 PM)

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/everyone-creepy-in-the-80s-2012101645041?fb_action_ids=972458141792&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=aggregation&fb_aggregation_id=288381481237582

[:D]




OPEN YOUR EYES -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (19/10/2012 6:13:48 PM)

Clicky.
The police inquiry into Jimmy Savile becomes a criminal investigation with the number of possible victims now more than 200.[sm=huh.gif]




Ghidorah -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (19/10/2012 7:08:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: OPEN YOUR EYES

Clicky.
The police inquiry into Jimmy Savile becomes a criminal investigation with the number of possible victims now more than 200.[sm=huh.gif]




I saw the ITV documentary and I thought this scandal was going to be huge. When the police spoke out about sixty victims, I thought the abuse scandal would be far greater than that.




OPEN YOUR EYES -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (19/10/2012 7:24:17 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Ghidorah


quote:

ORIGINAL: OPEN YOUR EYES

Clicky.
The police inquiry into Jimmy Savile becomes a criminal investigation with the number of possible victims now more than 200.[sm=huh.gif]




I saw the ITV documentary and I thought this scandal was going to be huge. When the police spoke out about sixty victims, I thought the abuse scandal would be far greater than that.


Its unbelievable really.So many victims.




matty_b -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (19/10/2012 7:29:12 PM)

But think how long he got away with it though. 40 years? More?

That number could easily double.




Super Hans -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (19/10/2012 7:39:23 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Woger

Bloody hell.
http://21stcenturywire.com/2012/10/11/i-ran-the-gauntlet-of-pedophiles-in-the-entertainment-industry-says-former-child-actor/


Terrible stuff. Sadly not surprising though - not wanting to sound too silly and reactionary, there's been enough paedophiles and/or sexual predators revealed in recent years to indicate that being in showbiz/being famous offers a prime opportunity to abuse folk.




Woger -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (19/10/2012 7:43:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: matty_b

But think how long he got away with it though. 40 years? More?

That number could easily double.


Not even the number of victims increasing but there most likely will be more abusers/people covering up etc




UTB -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (19/10/2012 8:19:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: matty_b

But think how long he got away with it though. 40 years? More?

That number could easily double.



He would have had to have started at age 5 for that.



/coat




Shifty Bench -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (19/10/2012 11:50:36 PM)


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ORIGINAL: UTB


quote:

ORIGINAL: matty_b

But think how long he got away with it though. 40 years? More?

That number could easily double.



He would have had to have started at age 5 for that.



/coat


I actually did think Matty meant his age could double at first so I really should get my coat [:D]




Qwerty Norris -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (20/10/2012 11:11:45 AM)


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ORIGINAL: jonson

Rumours abound now that Jeremy Beadle might have had a small hand in it.


[sm=happy07.gif]

Partly ashamed I chose that smiley in a thread about child abuse & Hitler partaking in charity fun runs, but that was a proper LOL.






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