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AxlReznor -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (19/12/2013 10:38:17 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MonsterCat

See, the two mothers getting much, much more lenient sentences than Watkins makes no sense to me. They were helping to facilitate Watkins' sexual urges and, in my mind, that's just as bad as them fucking or groping the kids themselves. It's absolutely mind-blowing to me.

Still, I guess Watkins will soon experience some horrific shit himself when he gets cornholed on a daily basis by a big, fat and bald neo-nazi on a daily basis.


Unfortunately, he's almost certain to be kept in solitary confinement to avoid this sort of thing happening to him.




Goodfella -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (19/12/2013 2:53:38 PM)


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ORIGINAL: AxlReznor


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ORIGINAL: MonsterCat

See, the two mothers getting much, much more lenient sentences than Watkins makes no sense to me. They were helping to facilitate Watkins' sexual urges and, in my mind, that's just as bad as them fucking or groping the kids themselves. It's absolutely mind-blowing to me.

Still, I guess Watkins will soon experience some horrific shit himself when he gets cornholed on a daily basis by a big, fat and bald neo-nazi on a daily basis.


Unfortunately, he's almost certain to be kept in solitary confinement to avoid this sort of thing happening to him.


Given some of the very sick and twisted things this 'man' got up too, it wouldn't surprise me if he enjoyed that sort of thing anyway.

I have to say I do feel quite sorry for the other members of Lost Prophets, especially Mike Lewis who was best friends with Watkins since they grew up in Wales together. Their whole worlds have been ripped apart by this and the music they all put their lives and souls into probably feels very tainted now, they've also suffered the sad plethora of criticism from parts of the online community, with suggestions such as they are guilty by association or they can't not have know what he was up too.

There was never any evidence to suggest they did in the first place but all were still interviewed and processed by the police and given the extreme lengths Watkins went too to cover his tracks, that should not be surprising and is no case for some of the abuse they've received anyway. They recently released a very clear and emotional joint statement about their feelings after Watkins changed his plea to guilty. I know the former members have also been working closely with a number of charities since who work with victims of such abuse so I wouldn't be surprised to see something more happen there. It should also be considered about the impact this has had on their lives and the damage they may suffer from it, I'm not trying to paint them as the same as these poor, helpless children, but they are victims of Watkins too.






horribleives -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (19/12/2013 2:58:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: AxlReznor


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ORIGINAL: MonsterCat

See, the two mothers getting much, much more lenient sentences than Watkins makes no sense to me. They were helping to facilitate Watkins' sexual urges and, in my mind, that's just as bad as them fucking or groping the kids themselves. It's absolutely mind-blowing to me.

Still, I guess Watkins will soon experience some horrific shit himself when he gets cornholed on a daily basis by a big, fat and bald neo-nazi on a daily basis.


Unfortunately, he's almost certain to be kept in solitary confinement to avoid this sort of thing happening to him.


Where's Heisenberg and the Aryan Brotherhood when you need them?




DJ Satan -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (19/12/2013 3:37:18 PM)


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Still, I guess Watkins will soon experience some horrific shit himself when he gets cornholed on a daily basis by a big, fat and bald neo-nazi on a daily basis.


Given some of the very sick and twisted things this 'man' got up too, it wouldn't surprise me if he enjoyed that sort of thing anyway.


Did you just imply that he is likely to enjoy gay sex because he is "sick and twisted"?




horribleives -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (19/12/2013 3:43:16 PM)


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Still, I guess Watkins will soon experience some horrific shit himself when he gets cornholed on a daily basis by a big, fat and bald neo-nazi on a daily basis.


Given some of the very sick and twisted things this 'man' got up too, it wouldn't surprise me if he enjoyed that sort of thing anyway.


Did you just imply that he is likely to enjoy gay sex because he is "sick and twisted"?


No he implied he's likely to enjoy being raped by a fat bald neo Nazi because he's sick and twisted.




jonson -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (19/12/2013 4:01:23 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DJ Satan


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ORIGINAL: Goodfella

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Still, I guess Watkins will soon experience some horrific shit himself when he gets cornholed on a daily basis by a big, fat and bald neo-nazi on a daily basis.


Given some of the very sick and twisted things this 'man' got up too, it wouldn't surprise me if he enjoyed that sort of thing anyway.


Did you just imply that he is likely to enjoy gay sex because he is "sick and twisted"?


Oh c'mon please, you've got to be joking.




DancingClown -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (19/12/2013 4:35:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DJ Satan


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ORIGINAL: Goodfella

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Still, I guess Watkins will soon experience some horrific shit himself when he gets cornholed on a daily basis by a big, fat and bald neo-nazi on a daily basis.


Given some of the very sick and twisted things this 'man' got up too, it wouldn't surprise me if he enjoyed that sort of thing anyway.


Did you just imply that he is likely to enjoy gay sex because he is "sick and twisted"?


No, of course he bloody didn't. And since when could being raped by a neo-Nazi be described as "gay sex"? By attempting to twist jonson's words you have made yourself seem like the one who is prejudiced. Well done.




DJ Satan -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (19/12/2013 5:04:34 PM)


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Still, I guess Watkins will soon experience some horrific shit himself when he gets cornholed on a daily basis by a big, fat and bald neo-nazi on a daily basis.


Given some of the very sick and twisted things this 'man' got up too, it wouldn't surprise me if he enjoyed that sort of thing anyway.


Did you just imply that he is likely to enjoy gay sex because he is "sick and twisted"?


No, of course he bloody didn't. And since when could being raped by a neo-Nazi be described as "gay sex"? By attempting to twist jonson's words you have made yourself seem like the one who is prejudiced. Well done.

There was no mention of rape - just slang for anal sex. MonsterCat called the act "horrific" and Goodfella suggested he would enjoy because he is sick and twisted.




Goodfella -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (19/12/2013 5:17:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DJ Satan


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Still, I guess Watkins will soon experience some horrific shit himself when he gets cornholed on a daily basis by a big, fat and bald neo-nazi on a daily basis.


Given some of the very sick and twisted things this 'man' got up too, it wouldn't surprise me if he enjoyed that sort of thing anyway.


Did you just imply that he is likely to enjoy gay sex because he is "sick and twisted"?


Yes, that's exactly what I was implying, nothing to do with the act of rape, as in connected with the acts that he committed on his victims, you also don't need a direct reference to that, it's pretty obvious. The implication is he would enjoy a twisted act of enforced sex and performer in such a manner not akin to with what he did, whether that be straight or gay sex for that matter.

I'm not even sure why I'm dignifying this with a response to be honest, and you should be careful yourself. When you start implying such accusations that are both offensive and libellous with no evidence, when it was quite clear what I meant and I have never suggested anything of such previous belief, it can very quickly come back and round on you.

Boy, I really am fucking sick and tired of this on here, instead of assuming there is always an opportunity to try and belittle someone across on an internet forum to massage your own ego, why don't you try reading what I've put properly and put a bit of thought into it.





DancingClown -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (19/12/2013 5:25:00 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DJ Satan


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ORIGINAL: Goodfella

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Still, I guess Watkins will soon experience some horrific shit himself when he gets cornholed on a daily basis by a big, fat and bald neo-nazi on a daily basis.


Given some of the very sick and twisted things this 'man' got up too, it wouldn't surprise me if he enjoyed that sort of thing anyway.


Did you just imply that he is likely to enjoy gay sex because he is "sick and twisted"?


No, of course he bloody didn't. And since when could being raped by a neo-Nazi be described as "gay sex"? By attempting to twist jonson's words you have made yourself seem like the one who is prejudiced. Well done.

There was no mention of rape - just slang for anal sex. MonsterCat called the act "horrific" and Goodfella suggested he would enjoy because he is sick and twisted.


I think it's fairly obvious given the context that "cornholed on a daily basis by a big, fat and bald neo-nazi on a daily basis" implies rape and sexual assault as opposed to an act of love-making between two consensual adult men. And then Goodfella implied that he might enjoy that sort of violence becauise he is sick and twisted. Simples.




Goodfella -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (19/12/2013 5:26:12 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DJ Satan


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ORIGINAL: DancingClown

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ORIGINAL: DJ Satan


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ORIGINAL: Goodfella

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ORIGINAL: MonsterCat

Still, I guess Watkins will soon experience some horrific shit himself when he gets cornholed on a daily basis by a big, fat and bald neo-nazi on a daily basis.


Given some of the very sick and twisted things this 'man' got up too, it wouldn't surprise me if he enjoyed that sort of thing anyway.


Did you just imply that he is likely to enjoy gay sex because he is "sick and twisted"?


No, of course he bloody didn't. And since when could being raped by a neo-Nazi be described as "gay sex"? By attempting to twist jonson's words you have made yourself seem like the one who is prejudiced. Well done.

There was no mention of rape - just slang for anal sex. MonsterCat called the act "horrific" and Goodfella suggested he would enjoy because he is sick and twisted.


I think it's fairly obvious given the context that "cornholed on a daily basis by a big, fat and bald neo-nazi on a daily basis" implies rape and sexual assault as opposed to an act of love-making between two consensual adult men. And then Goodfella implied that he might enjoy that sort of violence becauise he is sick and twisted. Simples.


That's probably been put better than I could have put it, but that's exactly what I meant.






directorscut -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (19/12/2013 5:26:40 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DJ Satan


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ORIGINAL: DancingClown

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ORIGINAL: Goodfella

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ORIGINAL: MonsterCat

Still, I guess Watkins will soon experience some horrific shit himself when he gets cornholed on a daily basis by a big, fat and bald neo-nazi on a daily basis.


Given some of the very sick and twisted things this 'man' got up too, it wouldn't surprise me if he enjoyed that sort of thing anyway.


Did you just imply that he is likely to enjoy gay sex because he is "sick and twisted"?


No, of course he bloody didn't. And since when could being raped by a neo-Nazi be described as "gay sex"? By attempting to twist jonson's words you have made yourself seem like the one who is prejudiced. Well done.

There was no mention of rape - just slang for anal sex. MonsterCat called the act "horrific" and Goodfella suggested he would enjoy because he is sick and twisted.


People aren't allowed to find that horrific anymore? Talk about PC going mad!




MonsterCat -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (19/12/2013 6:43:00 PM)

You really can't say anything around here anymore without starting a spat.

Jesus, this place sometimes...




Professor Moriarty -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (19/12/2013 7:12:52 PM)

Ah its like the Thursdays of old are back again [;)]




Hood_Man -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (19/12/2013 7:25:18 PM)

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You really can't say anything around here anymore without starting a spat.


You spat on me? I'm telling! MOOOOOOOOOOOOODS!!!




Goodfella -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (19/12/2013 7:33:18 PM)


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Ah its like the Thursdays of old are back again [;)]


Thursdays?

It was specific to just one day!?[8|]




Brooksy84 -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (19/12/2013 7:45:43 PM)

I read the sentencing remarks last night and immediately wished I hadn't, but I ploughed through to the end, mainly because I'm a law student and these kind of reports are all research in a way. I'm not normally greatly affected by such things but I honestly can't get what I read out of my mind, as well as one fucking Lostprophets song that would never have entered my head before the sentencing. I concur fully with what others have said about the mothers; abusing your own child, and encouraging another to do so, is the most despicable act I can think of. I have no problem in wishing all three a most hideously violent act on their person as soon as possible.




sanchia -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (19/12/2013 8:11:43 PM)


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Ah its like the Thursdays of old are back again [;)]


Thursdays?

It was specific to just one day!?[8|]


Thursdays were always the day when things went ape...it used to be more reliable than clockwork.




Darth Marenghi -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (19/12/2013 9:05:58 PM)


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Thursdays were always the day when things went ape...it used to be more reliable than clockwork.


It was a self-fulfilling prophecy, I always thought. [:D]




sanchia -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (19/12/2013 9:15:44 PM)

They were traumatic times.




superdan -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (19/12/2013 10:35:49 PM)


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They were traumatic times.


Great times, of a fashion. Compared to even then the forum now is like modern-day Simpsons - the occasional and almost accidental laugh but going through the motions without any chance of achieving the greatness that went before. And by greatness I am of course referring to people going apeshit and sparking pages of argument before half the posters had even got out of bed.

Yeah that's right, I went there.




kumar -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (19/12/2013 11:00:00 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Brooksy84

I read the sentencing remarks last night and immediately wished I hadn't, but I ploughed through to the end, mainly because I'm a law student and these kind of reports are all research in a way. I'm not normally greatly affected by such things but I honestly can't get what I read out of my mind, as well as one fucking Lostprophets song that would never have entered my head before the sentencing. I concur fully with what others have said about the mothers; abusing your own child, and encouraging another to do so, is the most despicable act I can think of. I have no problem in wishing all three a most hideously violent act on their person as soon as possible.


Evil evil people. Demonstrates too that it wasnt even a case of the women being manipulated and that they were pretty much active through out.

Honestly, morbid curiosity drew me to reading those, and I seriously wish I hadnt. Poor babies. I really do wish the worst for these bastards.




matty_b -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (20/12/2013 11:03:16 AM)


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ORIGINAL: superdan


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ORIGINAL: sanchia

They were traumatic times.


Great times, of a fashion. Compared to even then the forum now is like modern-day Simpsons - the occasional and almost accidental laugh but going through the motions without any chance of achieving the greatness that went before. And by greatness I am of course referring to people going apeshit and sparking pages of argument before half the posters had even got out of bed.

Yeah that's right, I went there.


I'll be honest, I miss the days when I would get up on a morning and check the forum only to discover two locked threads, pages of deleted posts, accusations of racism and various meltdowns at 3:00 in the morning.




Keyser Sozzled -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (20/12/2013 11:14:21 AM)

Yeah sorry about that, it was the medication..




directorscut -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (20/12/2013 2:48:24 PM)


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ORIGINAL: superdan


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ORIGINAL: sanchia

They were traumatic times.


Great times, of a fashion. Compared to even then the forum now is like modern-day Simpsons - the occasional and almost accidental laugh but going through the motions without any chance of achieving the greatness that went before. And by greatness I am of course referring to people going apeshit and sparking pages of argument before half the posters had even got out of bed.

Yeah that's right, I went there.


At least we aren't Season 11.




Shifty Bench -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (20/12/2013 8:12:27 PM)


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ORIGINAL: matty_b


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ORIGINAL: superdan


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ORIGINAL: sanchia

They were traumatic times.


Great times, of a fashion. Compared to even then the forum now is like modern-day Simpsons - the occasional and almost accidental laugh but going through the motions without any chance of achieving the greatness that went before. And by greatness I am of course referring to people going apeshit and sparking pages of argument before half the posters had even got out of bed.

Yeah that's right, I went there.


I'll be honest, I miss the days when I would get up on a morning and check the forum only to discover two locked threads, pages of deleted posts, accusations of racism and various meltdowns at 3:00 in the morning.


I'd like to say we've all grown as people but it's because most of the dickheads have been banned [:D] [;)]




sanchia -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (20/12/2013 8:34:18 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Keyser Sozzled

Yeah sorry about that, it was the medication..


Medicinal brandy...




sanchia -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (23/12/2013 7:04:05 AM)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25489501

Three more charges heading Rolf Harris' way including one against a child of 7 or 8. Although not found guilty I imagine all those who purchased his paintings for hundreds of thousands of pounds are rueing the day.




Brooksy84 -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (23/12/2013 11:36:15 AM)

There really must be some pretty solid evidence to qualify a prosecution for offences 40 or so years ago.
There must be a lot of people out there having some sleepless nights and shitting it every time the doorbell rings judging by the way cases are piling up.




jonson -> RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville (6/2/2014 12:22:39 PM)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-26068034

William Roache found Not Guilty.
Hopefully all the evidence talked about in court will now come out, proving that these women lied on all counts.




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