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cheevers4ever -> Nolan's Batman trilogy, the greatest ever? (23/7/2012 6:38:36 PM)

I say this thread has already been done probably but what the hell[:D]

For me anyway, three top movies that reinvented the comic book film and blockbusters. Probably the best villian ever in Heath ledger's Joker, one of the greatest films ever in the Dark Knight (i think The Dark Knight rises will be joining it).A cast to die for, the best superhero but flawed in Bale's Batman and today's greatest director in Christoper Nolan, Cinemtrographer in Wally Pfister and soundtrack in Hans zimmer plus a trilogy with smarts that doesn't play down on its audience.

So is it the best trilogy ever?




Spaldron -> RE: Nolan's Batman trilogy, the greatest ever? (23/7/2012 7:41:33 PM)

Its arguably the greatest comic-book trilogy but its far from the greatest ever.




rich -> RE: Nolan's Batman trilogy, the greatest ever? (23/7/2012 7:47:39 PM)

I haven't seen the third yet and it's not even the best two parter. So no. Too much stupidness in for supposed "smart" comic movies. I really like them, but no.




Hood_Man -> RE: Nolan's Batman trilogy, the greatest ever? (23/7/2012 7:49:16 PM)

I reckon it could be one of the greatest Blockbuster trilogies ever. I was disappointed in TDKR but it's still a very good film, and I adored Begins and Dark Knight.

If anything just because Nolan gave us a good Bane and a good scene in a nightclub [:D]




elab49 -> RE: Nolan's Batman trilogy, the greatest ever? (23/7/2012 7:59:08 PM)

Won't this simply boil down to those who think the films are poor, meh, OK, or no more than pretty enjoyable saying 'no', and those who think they're the greatest thing ever(!!) saying 'yes'?

I'd say Spaldron's right, in as much as there isn't much of a contest in terms of superhero trilogies. Although if Hellboy 3 goes ahead, that would likely be my choice.






Whistler -> RE: Nolan's Batman trilogy, the greatest ever? (24/7/2012 2:41:35 AM)

I don't know if I'd say it was the best, but it definitely joins the likes of Bourne, LOTR, Back To The Future, Toy Story and Dollars.




Qwerty Norris -> RE: Nolan's Batman trilogy, the greatest ever? (24/7/2012 3:15:04 AM)

It's certainly the best comic book trilogy & off the top of my head, probably my favourite that's a live action one with a continuing narrative (more my cup of tea than say The Lord Of The Rings).

Whether or not it's the best is all very subjective really.




Lazarus munkey -> RE: Nolan's Batman trilogy, the greatest ever? (24/7/2012 3:21:01 AM)

A fine series and up there with the best but not the best ever.

For consistent quality, it's hard to see past LOTR and Toy Story, although I'd most likely find myself watching Nolan's movies.




yourecast -> RE: Nolan's Batman trilogy, the greatest ever? (24/7/2012 9:39:43 AM)

I would define Nolan's Batman trilogy as the best trio of movies. Unlike too many other trilogies, it was not a single movie commercially stretched over 3 episodes. It started with a bang, got better and better, and it's ending exactly at the right time.




Lucky Day -> RE: Nolan's Batman trilogy, the greatest ever? (24/7/2012 9:48:14 AM)

Trilogies eh? Well, in answer to your question, no, Batman is not the greatest.

LOTR & Toy Story are bound to be named over and over again. Both fantastic.

Most disappointing trilogies for me would be the Matrix & Blade. Both started fantastically, both ended terribly.

But my greatest ever trilogy ? Back to the Future. Three films I could happily sit and watch over and over again.





st3veebee -> RE: Nolan's Batman trilogy, the greatest ever? (24/7/2012 10:35:45 AM)

No. The DKR just wasn't up to the standard of other great trilogy endings (Toy Story and Bourne). One of the best ever? Definitely, but just falls short of the real creme de la creme.




Cool Breeze -> RE: Nolan's Batman trilogy, the greatest ever? (24/7/2012 12:55:11 PM)

I still need another few viewings of TDKR to decide but its certainly up there with Bourne and the original Star Wars as the greatest trilogy ever.




Discodez -> RE: Nolan's Batman trilogy, the greatest ever? (24/7/2012 1:06:08 PM)

Super hero/ comic book trilogy, yes - by a country mile.

I'd have to say that it would be my personal favourite trilogy, but I'd have to conceed that Toy Story is pretty near faultless.




Russ Whitfield -> RE: Nolan's Batman trilogy, the greatest ever? (24/7/2012 1:13:07 PM)

No love for the first three Police Academy movies, then.




Cockeye -> RE: Nolan's Batman trilogy, the greatest ever? (24/7/2012 11:17:40 PM)

Batman Begins - one of the best comic book "origin" films committed to celluloid.

The Dark Knight - one of the finest films EVER. Full stop.

The Dark Knight Rises - one of the biggest disappointments in cinematic history. Subtlety. Gone. Instead Nolan introduces unbelievable tech, ridiculous plot contrivances, one of the worst sound mixes ever - and the end result is one of the least enjoyable film experiences I have had since the second Transformers movie. In fact, it seemed to share that films DNA. I am absolutely gutted.

So before seeing TDKR I would have said it had a huge chance of beng one of the best trilogies ever, but instead Nolan ruined it.




Spaldron -> RE: Nolan's Batman trilogy, the greatest ever? (25/7/2012 1:21:42 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Cockeye

So before seeing TDKR I would have said it had a huge chance of beng one of the best trilogies ever, but instead Nolan ruined it.


Yeah fuck Nolan, fucking cheap hack!!! [:@]




Lazarus munkey -> RE: Nolan's Batman trilogy, the greatest ever? (25/7/2012 1:33:26 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Cockeye

Batman Begins - one of the best comic book "origin" films committed to celluloid.

The Dark Knight - one of the finest films EVER. Full stop.

The Dark Knight Rises - one of the biggest disappointments in cinematic history. Subtlety. Gone. Instead Nolan introduces unbelievable tech, ridiculous plot contrivances, one of the worst sound mixes ever - and the end result is one of the least enjoyable film experiences I have had since the second Transformers movie. In fact, it seemed to share that films DNA. I am absolutely gutted.

So before seeing TDKR I would have said it had a huge chance of beng one of the best trilogies ever, but instead Nolan ruined it.


I sense displeasure.

Could it be that your expectations were unrealistic? A few issues with Bane's speech does not make this one of the worst sound mixes ever.




great_badir -> RE: Nolan's Batman trilogy, the greatest ever? (25/7/2012 12:34:36 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lazarus munkey
quote:

ORIGINAL: Cockeye

Batman Begins - one of the best comic book "origin" films committed to celluloid.

The Dark Knight - one of the finest films EVER. Full stop.

The Dark Knight Rises - one of the biggest disappointments in cinematic history. Subtlety. Gone. Instead Nolan introduces unbelievable tech, ridiculous plot contrivances, one of the worst sound mixes ever - and the end result is one of the least enjoyable film experiences I have had since the second Transformers movie. In fact, it seemed to share that films DNA. I am absolutely gutted.

So before seeing TDKR I would have said it had a huge chance of beng one of the best trilogies ever, but instead Nolan ruined it.


I sense displeasure.

Could it be that your expectations were unrealistic? A few issues with Bane's speech does not make this one of the worst sound mixes ever.


Plus a lot of the responsibility for the final sound "design" lies with the tech bods at the cinema.

...having said that, I am looking forward to the subtitles on blu ray...

But back on topic - as most others have said, it's probably the best comic book trilogy (I would go so far to say that I think The Dark Knight is probably THE best comic book film ever made), but Rises has far too many shortcomings to make it the successful rounding part of a trilogy masterpiece, at least in general terms.




clownfoot -> RE: Nolan's Batman trilogy, the greatest ever? (25/7/2012 12:39:02 PM)

Evil Dead for the win losers... [:D]




elab49 -> RE: Nolan's Batman trilogy, the greatest ever? (25/7/2012 12:40:50 PM)

I am going to agree with Clowny as he is currently my hero #goveisatit




great_badir -> RE: Nolan's Batman trilogy, the greatest ever? (25/7/2012 12:54:52 PM)

In terms of consistency, I would have to agree with the ED trilogy, but Back to the Future is up there, as is Indy.

...what do you mean Indy 4?? Nononono, I think you are mistaken - there is no such film.




elab49 -> RE: Nolan's Batman trilogy, the greatest ever? (25/7/2012 12:57:03 PM)

Awww, bless - selective amnesia is such a blessing [:D]

In reality, in terms of trilogies on my list it's LOTR and the Bill Douglas trilogy.




great_badir -> RE: Nolan's Batman trilogy, the greatest ever? (25/7/2012 1:23:15 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: elab49
Awww, bless - selective amnesia is such a blessing [:D]


To be fair, I think collective amnesia is probably the best thing for it.

....DAMN - acknowledged its existence[:'(]

Not so long ago I would have agreed about LOTR, but having seen them all again in the last year or so, I don't think Fellowship has held up that well, and Return of the King is VERY clunky, not to mention embarrassingly homo-erotic and never ending. Two Towers is still brilliant, though.




giggity -> RE: Nolan's Batman trilogy, the greatest ever? (25/7/2012 1:26:47 PM)

It's either this trilogy or Lord of the Rings which stands as my favourite. Lord of the rings is technically one story just in 3 parts so I don't know if that affects the decision or not, whereas the Bat films were 3 films made separately that create this grand story.




thedrin -> RE: Nolan's Batman trilogy, the greatest ever? (25/7/2012 1:33:48 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Cockeye

Batman Begins - one of the best comic book "origin" films committed to celluloid.

The Dark Knight - one of the finest films EVER. Full stop.

The Dark Knight Rises - one of the biggest disappointments in cinematic history. Subtlety. Gone. Instead Nolan introduces unbelievable tech, ridiculous plot contrivances, one of the worst sound mixes ever - and the end result is one of the least enjoyable film experiences I have had since the second Transformers movie. In fact, it seemed to share that films DNA. I am absolutely gutted.

So before seeing TDKR I would have said it had a huge chance of beng one of the best trilogies ever, but instead Nolan ruined it.


Re: the bolded parts

Are you sure that you saw part 2? Surely The Dark Knight is at least as guilty of those as The Dark Knight Rises.




blackduck -> RE: Nolan's Batman trilogy, the greatest ever? (25/7/2012 2:11:18 PM)

It's got to be Starwars, a million reissues and Georges continually fiddling with it has taken some of the shine off it, but the fact is they still hold up today against the best of them.




elab49 -> RE: Nolan's Batman trilogy, the greatest ever? (25/7/2012 2:19:43 PM)

That's not really a trilogy anymore though, is it? Just as Indy can't be a trilogy anymore either. 




Deviation -> RE: Nolan's Batman trilogy, the greatest ever? (25/7/2012 2:51:25 PM)

Not that I've seen The Dark Knight Rises, I came here to say "not even close".




jon5000 -> RE: Nolan's Batman trilogy, the greatest ever? (25/7/2012 3:02:01 PM)

First two were good. Third one... meh.

The greatest ever? Not by a long shot.

There are more consistent trilogies out there.




Lazarus munkey -> RE: Nolan's Batman trilogy, the greatest ever? (25/7/2012 7:14:54 PM)

1. LOTR. TFOTR 5/5, TTT 5/5, TROTK 5/5
2. Toy Story. 1 5/5, 2 5/5, 3 5/5
3. Bourne. TBI 4/5, TBS 5/5, TBU 5/5
4. The Godfather. 1 5/5, 2 5/5, 3 3/5
5. Batman. BB 4/5, TDK 5/5, TDKR 4/5
6. X-Men. 1 4/5, X2 5/5, XMLS 3/5
7. Back to the Future. 1 5/5, 2 3/5, 3 4/5
8. Indiana Jones. ROTLA 5/5, TOD 2/5, TLC 4/5
9. Evil Dead. 1 4/5, 2 4/5, 3 3/5
10. Spider-Man 1 4/5, 2 4/5, 3 2/5







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