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Empire Admin -> The Grey (27/1/2012 10:48:33 AM)

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dj8680 -> (27/1/2012 1:39:58 PM)

I would normally look on Empire's 4* review as a big endorsement of a great movie. However, after taking your advice and going to see Haywire, my confidence has been shaken. How am I to trust anything you have to say after the glowing review you gave to that steaming pile of Soderbergh shit?! It was truly god awful, not even laughingly awful. Just downright shit. So shit in fact, that it made me angry. Angry that it had been made, angry at all involved for being associated with it, angry at McGregor's shit accent, angry at you for your endorsement & angry that I wasted money in these times of economic hardship when I would have more fun pummelling my genitals with a sock full of loose change. Please restore my faith with an honest, sensible review on the DVD release. Thanks.

PS. my 4* rating is purely so I can leave this comment




Bighousewill -> Who's Afraid Of The Big Bad Wolf? (28/1/2012 2:29:37 PM)

This is a bleak film and it does fall into the survival horror and if you can take the bleakness you will enjoy it depressing though it is it is enjoyable and gives you something to think about like faith as one example. I am slightly annoyed, The Grey will do what Jaws did for sharks to wolves, poor Wolves are an endangered species so don't give them a bad press they aren't man eaters.




Osric -> RE: (29/1/2012 10:53:04 AM)

@dj8680 But... Haywire was really good!

And so's The Grey.




tysmuse -> Astounding (29/1/2012 6:52:04 PM)

I'm not even kidding when I write there wasn't a single part of this movie I didn't love. One of the best films about life and death ever made.




kamshaft -> (30/1/2012 12:38:31 PM)

Dear Empire,

You're sometime reluctant to lead the trend, and give a 5 star genre film the respect it deserves, like Batman Begins, Casino Royale and Drive - although you upgraded all 3 (I think) to 5 stars for the home release.
Readers, The Grey is thrilling stuff, the acting is excellent, Neeson is on career best form, my palms were sweating, man there are some intense scenes in this beast of a movie.
Go see this. Right. Now.

As much as I love The Artist, this is my number 1 movie of the year - I'll be amazed if I see something as good as The Grey.




Dr Lenera -> RE: (30/1/2012 10:13:39 PM)

 
John Ottway works in Alaska hunting the wolves that threaten an oil drilling team. On his last day on the job, Ottway pens a letter to his wife Ana  and plans to commit suicide. While holding his gun to his mouth, however, Ottway hears the howl of a wolf, which stops him.  Upon the completion of the job, Ottway and the team embark on a plane, but are caught in a horrendous blizzard and the plane crashes in the middle of nowhere.  Ottway wakes up in the snow with the wrecked plane in the distance and just seven other survivors, one of whom soon perishes.  It soon becomes apparent that not only are they in the middle of nowhere, but they are in wolf territory, and the wolves see these human intruders as dinner…………


Though I know not everyone agrees with me, I personally love that Liam Neeson has recently got a sort of ‘second wind’ to his career and been reborn as a near-60 year old action star.  I actually can’t wait for the sequel to Taken, that movie being my favourite guilty pleasure of 2008.  In the meantime though we have The Grey, which is a somewhat different kettle of fish.  The trailer showed an image of Neeson battling a wolf, which led me, and probably a great many other people, to expect at least one major scene of the Big Man wasting one or more poor lupines.  We’ve had Neeson in Paris and Germany, well now we have him rampaging Alaska dispatching/any foolish wolf that get in his way, yes?  Well let me tell you now; you don’t see any of this in the finished film, which is a far more serious affair.  Think of The Edge or Flight Of The Phoenix crossed with Open Water or The Reef, but of course substituting wolves for sharks, and that should give you a pretty good idea of what to expect.  There isn’t that much that is new, but if you’re a fan of this type of movie, you should find it pretty engrossing.

Immediately, as we open with imposing shots of mountains followed by Neeson’s voice, sounding as grim and downbeat as a narrator from an old film noir, over the sight of him putting a gun in his mouth, you know this is not going to be frivolous fare.  It gets off to a very quick start, with the crash occurring within about ten minutes, and there’s a nice restraint here; we don’t see the actual crash, just Ottway awaking from being knocked out and us then seeing the wreckage and the dead bodies.  This is also just as well, considering the number of shoddy looking plane crashes we have been submitted to in recent years.  The tension arrives very quickly when we see that a wolf pack is after the humans, and is willing to follow them and hunt them down.  Now you may very well be aware that wolves rarely actually attack people, don’t actually live in the snow and are nowhere near as intelligent as they appear to be in this film, and you may also wonder why they appear to be the only animals about [perhaps the wolves ate them all?], but hopefully you’ll be so gripped that things like this will only occur to you after the film is over!

Unrealistic though they may be, they are very effective menaces as they follow and gradually kill our protagonists off one by one.  Though not shown in much detail, they looked real enough to me, though are at their best when the emphasis is on their scary bright eyes [again, probably brighter than in real life, but never mind, this is a movie], especially in one rather frightening night time scene where the group just sees lots and lots of pairs of eyes staring at them out of the dark, a really nightmarish image.  Sadly though, I have to report that the actual wolf attack scenes are totally botched by …..yes….you’ve guessed…..epileptic camera shaking and random one second close ups of wolf teeth, legs, well it’s hard to tell. Director Joe Carnahan almost ruined some great action scenes in The A-Team by shooting them in this manner and certainly ruins many scenes in this one.  I just wanted to see one wolf attack properly, especially considering the plentiful blood we see decorating the snow after the killings, but was not allowed to.

Never mind, Carnahan shows skill in some other scenes, such as a very vertiginous rope bit which is even more tense then the one in Cliffhanger and may really make you lose your dinner if you are scared of heights!  Brief flashbacks are elegantly blended in without jarring. The film drags a little in the second half, as if it is having trouble keeping up its early momentum, and many have been unsatisfied with the ending, which is very ambiguous.  I didn’t mind it, because it’s consistent with the subtext about dealing with death that writers Carnahan and Ian MacKenzie Jeffers have been threading through the story and give it a bit of philosophical depth.  There is a really affecting scene near the beginning where Ottway helps someone die a little more happily by saying just the right words.  Deaths are so prevalent in the cinema, but this particular little scene really touched me, and considering some of his lines, not to mention a flashback twist revealed towards the end, is it not reading too much into it to relate Neeson’s character to certain tragic events the actor experienced not that long ago?  When he’s yelling out at God to just do “something”, I wondered if doing this film was something of a cathartic experience for him.

Cathartic or not, Neeson is excellent, convincingly showing us a broken man regaining some nobility, and sometimes using that great voice of his to its best advantage.  Other cast members do a fine job though I couldn’t stop noticing that nobody’s beard seemed to grow during the film.  The dialogue is appropriately foul mouthed and dryly humorous, exactly, one feels, how people would talk in that situation. Mark Streitenfeld’s ominous but quite restrained score emphasises long, ambient notes, which sometimes blend into the natural sound of the movie, nicely mixing sound design and music.  There is a lot to recommend in The Grey; it’s a little deeper than you might expect and most of the unbelievable aspects [why does the stupid pilot fly over a mountain instead of around it, why is it so easy to run in deep snow, blah blah blah] will probably only come to you as you exit the cinema.  A shame the atrocious editing of the attack scenes let it down, but sadly it’s par for the course these days…………
Rating:7/10




boredbluekoala -> Perhaps destined to become a classic. (30/1/2012 10:17:45 PM)

Not really an action movie, more of a drama about loss, love and loneliness.
Liam Neeson as usual, is mesmerising, the sort of capable leader we all wish we could be especially in a time of crises.
There has been alot of talk about the accuracy of wolves hunting humans in the wild, I'm no expert, but a pack of gnarly predators looking for prey in a wasteland where there is no food is scary and the effects used to convey it on screen were very convincing.
I loved every minute of it, it was moving, tense, beautiful and the final shot was cinema at its very best.
Can't wait for the Blu-Ray.




sephiroth7 -> brilliant (31/1/2012 12:01:58 AM)

Absolutely loved this movie. Went in expecting an actioner and I got so much more out of it. Wonderful.




Gretzky -> RE: RE: (31/1/2012 4:49:47 PM)

SPOILERS



quote:

ORIGINAL: Dr Lenera

There is a really affecting scene near the beginning where Ottway helps someone die a little more happily by saying just the right words.  Deaths are so prevalent in the cinema, but this particular little scene really touched me,



I like that you pointed out this scene too. For me the strength of writing and dialogue helped elevate it even higher for me. That scene made me burst into tears for the sheer realism of it. Dealt with nicely but also starkly and bleakly... The kind of scene expected in a war film but the immediacy of it really struck me hard. Not to mention it's acted impeccably by James Badge Dale who is one of the most exciting actors out there right now for me.




MuckyMuckMan -> RE: RE: (1/2/2012 7:33:41 PM)

Hmmm, I see where you're all coming from but I was quite disappointed with the film. I wouldn't give it a 4/5. For me there wasn't enough wolves. The best scene that choked me up a bit was when Liam Neeson was giving his speech about loss of someone he loves at the beginning of the film. I just sounded like he was speaking to late wife, Natasha Richardson. It must have been a hard scene for him to make. Liam Neeson was as good as ever but its a 3/5 film for me I'm afraid.




evil bill -> Howlingly Good (1/2/2012 9:06:39 PM)

Director Joe Carnahan is probably best known for shit like The A Team,though he did the more bullets for your money Smokin Aces,an excellent action/thriller.I remember him more for this and Narc,two films he can be proud of,and now this superb gritty survival thriller,full of thrills and genuine shocks,(well it made me jump once).It is also one of the best Wolf films made,and by that i not thinking Werewolf(though it comes up in one of the funny? moments in this tale),but more in the vain of WOLFEN,made back in the 80's where a pack of wolves are the stars.Where there's a deeper plot than you first see,dealing with equally,greed,primal fear and what of civilization if all goes wrong,where is God.The Grey in the title is not just about the Grey landscape so beautifully filmed,or the Grey wolves that attack,it is also about the grey area in life,that of death,friends,enemies,and what is morally right and wrong when it comes down to who will survive.The Grey is depressing,real,scary and without trying to preach it slips without you hardly noticing into every aspect of life,asking more questions than giving some answers to why shit happens,why are we here.This is a lot deeper than some may expect,but when you realize this is a Ridley and Tony Scott film,you are in no doubt it's also there vision of the world on screen.Man against nature,man against himself,company employees who are expendable,all theme's from so many Scott films.

It takes a big man(actor) to carry off a film like this and make it feel real,and Liam Neeson is awesome in this,like in Taken,he is phenomenal when it come to portraying deeper emotions,like loss,courage and that damn stubborn streak the Irish seem to have in bucket loads.All these feelings and more are all on show and not just from Liam,but the rest of this great supporting cast,who are a real mixture of working people who just want to get home,to lovers family or just the next bottle of bourbon.They all help make this picture feel and look real,as do the wolves,who seem to reflect at times the fight in camp between the survivors,but in the end are the hunters who's land has been invaded.

Some have felt the action scenes are badly handled, just because the camera pulls away from showing throats being ripped open,i felt is wrong.There's enough blood and gore on show,and the attacks on a number of the men showed enough,with out resorting to full on blood pumping,flesh tearing horror.Like all good horror films,it's not always what you see that scares you,or makes you clutch at your stomach for fear of wreaching.Saying that there's plenty of sharp teeth on show,and ripping sounds to keep you on edge but still glued to the show,and the attacks are well filmed,visually striking, and jaw-dropping in fact with some truly creepy moments to add to the chills also.The wolves are horrifying, yet never made to look evil or bad just simply nature at it's most real and vicious,and again stunningly filmed for maximum impact.The scenes of them attacking reminded me very much of the BBC documentary Frozen planet,where a pack of wolves out for food bring down a deer.Yes it's that real looking and why i belive this director and his producers got the mix of horror and realism just about right,and there will be those i'm sure will pick holes in the script.Me i just sat back and let this film take me on a journey,and was well rewarded with everything on screen,and yes i stayed right to the very last title to see,the real end of the film??




tallaght24 -> Dissapointing to say the least. (3/2/2012 12:59:42 PM)

What a letdown this movie was, with a thoroughly misleading trailer. Don't go expecting Liam Neeson to kick the shit out of wolves. Doesn't happen.




HERMES_67 -> the grey (4/2/2012 10:00:41 PM)

good film with an unexpected end. worth a watch...




HERMES_67 -> the grey (4/2/2012 10:00:43 PM)

good film with an unexpected end. worth a watch...




Artificial Luddite -> Neeson + Wolves = Pretty Good (6/2/2012 12:02:22 AM)

Once upon a time Liam Neeson only played priests and sombre leaders. Today he has transformed himself into a somewhat credible action star, to mixed results: his last movie Unknown was a nightmare although Taken was a sleeper hit and is highly regarded among college students and stoners across Ireland.

The Grey is his latest offering and the plot is so deviously stupid that you can’t help but wonder what two hours of Liam Neeson pitted against a pack of wolves would be like. Call me naïve but I was expecting more.

The whole affair starts well enough with a frightening plane crash in the wilds of Alaska. Those unlucky few to survive the crash soon realise they are not alone, and must help each other if they are to get out alive. Even though by the end of the movie I was looking at my watch and waiting for the remaining characters to be picked off so I could go home, I did enjoy The Grey.

I mean, okay the premise is ridiculous, but Joe Carnahan never allows for his survival movie to take itself seriously. The script is solid, if not self-parodying at times, and allows the cast to get involved in some memorable exchanges. Neeson is also given free reign to deliver some wonderfully ludicrous lines, and follows up his hilarious appearance on Life’s Too Short with another naturally comic turn.

The Grey is wonderfully shot and looks great, and the barren windswept snowscape presented to us seems rather intimidating. Sadly, the wolves themselves are at times unconvincing, due to another unnecessary dependence on CGI.

Even though this eventually degenerates into a tedious action flick, it is for the majority a big dumb action movie that is a lot of fun, and gives Neeson licence to do what he now does pretty damn well. Beat the shit out of things.




Woger -> RE: Neeson + Wolves = Pretty Good (6/2/2012 3:33:41 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Artificial Luddite

Once upon a time Liam Neeson only played priests and sombre leaders. Today he has transformed himself into a somewhat credible action star, to mixed results: his last movie Unknown was a nightmare although Taken was a sleeper hit and is highly regarded among college students and stoners across Ireland.

The Grey is his latest offering and the plot is so deviously stupid that you can’t help but wonder what two hours of Liam Neeson pitted against a pack of wolves would be like. Call me naïve but I was expecting more.

The whole affair starts well enough with a frightening plane crash in the wilds of Alaska. Those unlucky few to survive the crash soon realise they are not alone, and must help each other if they are to get out alive. Even though by the end of the movie I was looking at my watch and waiting for the remaining characters to be picked off so I could go home, I did enjoy The Grey.

I mean, okay the premise is ridiculous, but Joe Carnahan never allows for his survival movie to take itself seriously. The script is solid, if not self-parodying at times, and allows the cast to get involved in some memorable exchanges. Neeson is also given free reign to deliver some wonderfully ludicrous lines, and follows up his hilarious appearance on Life’s Too Short with another naturally comic turn.

The Grey is wonderfully shot and looks great, and the barren windswept snowscape presented to us seems rather intimidating. Sadly, the wolves themselves are at times unconvincing, due to another unnecessary dependence on CGI.

Even though this eventually degenerates into a tedious action flick, it is for the majority a big dumb action movie that is a lot of fun, and gives Neeson licence to do what he now does pretty damn well. Beat the shit out of things.



Not really.
Very good film, great performances all round. Not the most original story but it has some great tense scenes and some of the attacks are very well done especially the way the wolves seem to appear out of nowhere.




OPEN YOUR EYES -> RE: Neeson + Wolves = Pretty Good (6/2/2012 4:00:50 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Artificial Luddite

Once upon a time Liam Neeson only played priests and sombre leaders. Today he has transformed himself into a somewhat credible action star, to mixed results: his last movie Unknown was a nightmare although Taken was a sleeper hit and is highly regarded among college students and stoners across Ireland.

The Grey is his latest offering and the plot is so deviously stupid that you can’t help but wonder what two hours of Liam Neeson pitted against a pack of wolves would be like. Call me naïve but I was expecting more.

The whole affair starts well enough with a frightening plane crash in the wilds of Alaska. Those unlucky few to survive the crash soon realise they are not alone, and must help each other if they are to get out alive. Even though by the end of the movie I was looking at my watch and waiting for the remaining characters to be picked off so I could go home, I did enjoy The Grey.

I mean, okay the premise is ridiculous, but Joe Carnahan never allows for his survival movie to take itself seriously. The script is solid, if not self-parodying at times, and allows the cast to get involved in some memorable exchanges. Neeson is also given free reign to deliver some wonderfully ludicrous lines, and follows up his hilarious appearance on Life’s Too Short with another naturally comic turn.

The Grey is wonderfully shot and looks great, and the barren windswept snowscape presented to us seems rather intimidating. Sadly, the wolves themselves are at times unconvincing, due to another unnecessary dependence on CGI.

Even though this eventually degenerates into a tedious action flick, it is for the majority a big dumb action movie that is a lot of fun, and gives Neeson licence to do what he now does pretty damn well. Beat the shit out of things.



Shudders..




GCH -> RE: The Grey (9/2/2012 4:05:59 PM)

Like most people I thought this film was lifted by Liam Neeson. He does semm to get better and better.There were a couple of things I noticed though that probably mean I wasn't quite as gripped as I was meant to be. It seemed to me that his accent became more Irish as the film went on. I know this is unreasonable because films are not necessarily shot linearly, but that certainly struck me. The second thing was; how did the wolves get across the ravine?




narmour -> RE: Who's Afraid Of The Big Bad Wolf? (10/2/2012 9:17:48 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bighousewill

poor Wolves are an endangered species so don't give them a bad press they aren't man eaters.


Wolves are like any other carnivorous hunters. They will eat anything if they are hungry enough.




narmour -> RE: Dissapointing to say the least. (10/2/2012 9:18:40 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: tallaght24

What a letdown this movie was, with a thoroughly misleading trailer. Don't go expecting Liam Neeson to kick the shit out of wolves. Doesn't happen.


I think in a fight between Liam Neeson and some wolves I'd be rooting for the wolves.




Woger -> RE: Who's Afraid Of The Big Bad Wolf? (10/2/2012 2:48:17 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: narmour

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bighousewill

poor Wolves are an endangered species so don't give them a bad press they aren't man eaters.


Wolves are like any other carnivorous hunters. They will eat anything if they are hungry enough.


I think the implication was that it was more territorial/protecting their young.




Spaldron -> RE: Who's Afraid Of The Big Bad Wolf? (10/2/2012 3:42:39 PM)

The only problem I had with this film was the slightly shonky CGI Wolves. Other than that this is an excellent survival horror/drama with Neeson pretty much doing what Neeson does best (dark and serious). The scenery is stunning, really giving you a sense of isolation with its man vs nature and everything in it theme. The film could almost be compared to Deliverance, with the wolves in place of rednecks, even featuring a river rapids sequence. Terrific ending also. 4/5




Hobbitonlass -> RE: Who's Afraid Of The Big Bad Wolf? (10/2/2012 4:18:31 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Spaldron
The scenery is stunning,

Absolutely! Especially by the river at the end. Really makes me want to visit Canada even more (always wanted to go, this reinforces that feeling).

The only slight niggle I had was when he fell in to the river fully clothed. Surely he would have froze to death?? That aside it really was an excellent film and one of the most realistic plane crashes I have seen (not that I have ever seen a real one!) on screen.




BatSpider -> Gritty (11/2/2012 2:42:30 PM)

The wolves never really convince, either in form (fucking CGI) or as protaganists, and I felt the movie would have been fine having them just for one scene or so. The wolves are window dressing but the rest of the movie has enough grit and narrative to stand alone, partly due to a totally committed Neeson and a seriously harsh looking landscape.




Qwerty Norris -> RE: Neeson + Wolves = Pretty Good (15/2/2012 5:59:31 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Artificial Luddite

Once upon a time Liam Neeson only played priests and sombre leaders. Today he has transformed himself into a somewhat credible action star, to mixed results: his last movie Unknown was a nightmare although Taken was a sleeper hit and is highly regarded among college students and stoners across Ireland.

The Grey is his latest offering and the plot is so deviously stupid that you can’t help but wonder what two hours of Liam Neeson pitted against a pack of wolves would be like. Call me naïve but I was expecting more.

The whole affair starts well enough with a frightening plane crash in the wilds of Alaska. Those unlucky few to survive the crash soon realise they are not alone, and must help each other if they are to get out alive. Even though by the end of the movie I was looking at my watch and waiting for the remaining characters to be picked off so I could go home, I did enjoy The Grey.

I mean, okay the premise is ridiculous, but Joe Carnahan never allows for his survival movie to take itself seriously. The script is solid, if not self-parodying at times, and allows the cast to get involved in some memorable exchanges. Neeson is also given free reign to deliver some wonderfully ludicrous lines, and follows up his hilarious appearance on Life’s Too Short with another naturally comic turn.

The Grey is wonderfully shot and looks great, and the barren windswept snowscape presented to us seems rather intimidating. Sadly, the wolves themselves are at times unconvincing, due to another unnecessary dependence on CGI.

Even though this eventually degenerates into a tedious action flick, it is for the majority a big dumb action movie that is a lot of fun, and gives Neeson licence to do what he now does pretty damn well. Beat the shit out of things.



Did you actually watch the same film as the rest of us? [8|]

One of the most misleading reviews I've ever read on this forum (and that's saying something).

Even though the trailer suggested Liam Neeson might get on his "I don't know what kind of wolves you are...." drawl, the idea of 'Taken...with Wolves' couldn't be further from the reality - and that is absolutely a good thing from my point of view. Admittedly the wolves aren't always brilliantly rendered, whilst the action sequences do go into quick-cut overload a lot of the time. Yet that shouldn't cause one to forget some of The Grey's finer moments (the entire plane sequence and a unexpectedly moving scene involving a surviving member sitting down to some picturesque scenery). A surprising, frequently well directed and performed study of broken, isolated men coming to terms with the imposing nature of death in the guise of a survivalist thriller.
4/5








Gazz -> RE: RE: (1/3/2012 10:27:20 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Gretzky

SPOILERS



quote:

ORIGINAL: Dr Lenera

There is a really affecting scene near the beginning where Ottway helps someone die a little more happily by saying just the right words.  Deaths are so prevalent in the cinema, but this particular little scene really touched me,



I like that you pointed out this scene too. For me the strength of writing and dialogue helped elevate it even higher for me. That scene made me burst into tears for the sheer realism of it. Dealt with nicely but also starkly and bleakly... The kind of scene expected in a war film but the immediacy of it really struck me hard. Not to mention it's acted impeccably by James Badge Dale who is one of the most exciting actors out there right now for me.



Last Christmas my Grandfather died after a long struggle with emphysema. On his last night I, along with a couple of other family members, sat with him at his home, held his hand and talked him away. I only mention this because that particular scene in The Grey instantly brought me right back to that night and paced me through the same emotions thanks to some fantastic acting, writing and dialogue. It captured the bleak realism of death almost perfectly and set the tone for the rest of the film. Needless to say I watched the rest of the film through bleary eyes.




Ciaran McDaid -> Neeson BadAss (20/3/2012 12:34:58 PM)

Brilliant Movie




shamshad -> Re: The Grey...The Greyest TWO hours of my Life (31/3/2012 3:07:38 PM)

This is the worst film I have seen thus so far this year. I wasted TWO hours of my life. I wish I could get those TWO hours back.
I have been subscribing to EMPIRE magzine for neary 15 years and upon the review recomendation of EMPIRE I went to see this movie. I think NICK must have been paid a handsome back hander to give this movie four stars.

I STRESS THIS TO ANY AND EVERY BODY NOT TO GO AND SEE THIS MOVIE OR EVEN WAST ANY MONEY HIRING OR BUYING IT.

TWO HOURS OF MY LIFE WASTED.

RATING MINUS 5 STARS




shamshad -> Re: The Grey...The Greyest TWO hours of my Life (31/3/2012 3:08:15 PM)

This is the worst film I have seen thus so far this year. I wasted TWO hours of my life. I wish I could get those TWO hours back.
I have been subscribing to EMPIRE magzine for neary 15 years and upon the review recomendation of EMPIRE I went to see this movie. I think NICK must have been paid a handsome back hander to give this movie four stars.

I STRESS THIS TO ANY AND EVERY BODY NOT TO GO AND SEE THIS MOVIE OR EVEN WAST ANY MONEY HIRING OR BUYING IT.

TWO HOURS OF MY LIFE WASTED.

RATING MINUS 5 STARS




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