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rick_7 -> RE: Annual Poll - Top 10 films of 2011 (7/12/2011 12:34:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Pigeon Army

02. Rango (2011, Gore Verbinski, USA)

Interesting. How so?




Pigeon Army -> RE: Annual Poll - Top 10 films of 2011 (7/12/2011 12:49:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rick_7

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ORIGINAL: Pigeon Army

02. Rango (2011, Gore Verbinski, USA)

Interesting. How so?


Gonna source out my review to answer this for me, as I think it was pretty accurate and still is -

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Rango (2011, Gore Verbinski, USA) - 4.5/5
With the recent glut of revisionist Westerns questioning the nature of the Western myth and the legend at each myth's centre (Assassination of Jesse James; True Grit; No Country), it's refreshing to see a film set itself apart from the pack by positioning itself as a reconstructionist Western, a film that takes elements of the latest forty years of revisionism and uses them to reinforce the attitude of classical Hollywood towards Westerns - that the myths have power, that the legends are essential, that in all, the knowledge that the man on the screen represents something positive is all that matters (the recurring motif of boxes around Rango heighten that very artificiality that makes him representative as much as he is himself). That such a Western can come along in the form of Rango - a stunningly-animated, hilarious, well-told mash-up of Chinatown and Once Upon a Time in the West (right down to the former's drowned man in the desert and the latter's concern with the costs of the 'March of Progress') with some existential crises on the side - is even more refreshing and remarkable. John Logan's script is a finely written classical tale with brilliant characters across the board, from the titular chameleon with an acting fetish to the nameless raccoon child who is every single superfluous child extra in a Western ever. The voice acting is stellar, with Depp's versatility and Beatty's Huston-esque rendition of Dirt's mayor the highlights (Beatty's role as go-to-guy for animated villains is well justified). The animation is absolutely stunning, rivalling anything Pixar has ever released, and the film's themes are as deep and interesting as any of the latter Pixar films, even if some of those are far more meta-textual and concerned with cinematic canon than they are with more universal interests. Some of the jokes are a bit off (fart jokes eeeh) and the romance between Rango and Beans is a bit rushed, but hey, we can't have it all, right?




shool -> RE: Annual Poll - Top 10 films of 2011 (7/12/2011 12:51:25 PM)

It fails as a kids film though.




Pigeon Army -> RE: Annual Poll - Top 10 films of 2011 (7/12/2011 1:01:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: shool

It fails as a kids film though.


I don't care.




shool -> RE: Annual Poll - Top 10 films of 2011 (7/12/2011 1:02:45 PM)

[>:]




Pigeon Army -> RE: Annual Poll - Top 10 films of 2011 (7/12/2011 1:07:18 PM)

[:D]




rick_7 -> RE: Annual Poll - Top 10 films of 2011 (7/12/2011 1:21:47 PM)

It's a much better review than it is a film. So kind of "well done". [:D]




elab49 -> RE: Annual Poll - Top 10 films of 2011 (7/12/2011 1:24:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Pigeon Army

Wait, so does Poetry count? Because I saw it last year. [:D]


It's one of the weird ones because I got the official DVD last year too - but it did get an official (and somewhat unexpected) release in the UK this year, as well as a UK DVD release.

I don't think Hot Coffee has had a release here. Nor Being Elmo or Medianeras, but we normally give some leeway with odd ones, particularly if they don't look like getting a release here formally but you've seen over there (eg Camino - still absent from these shores [>:]).




Pigeon Army -> RE: Annual Poll - Top 10 films of 2011 (7/12/2011 1:27:55 PM)


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It's a much better review than it is a film. So kind of "well done". [:D]


You have X-Men First Class in your top 20, I don't think you're in a position to be making these calls. [:D]

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(eg Camino - still absent from these shores [>:]).


Order it from Madman Entertainment in Australia/NZ, they released it on DVD a couple of months ago.




elab49 -> RE: Annual Poll - Top 10 films of 2011 (7/12/2011 1:29:02 PM)

Rango is one of those ones that is a bugger in the Best Animated category. Are they judging on animation - in which case, high marks. Or on the film? In which case, loser. Unless you are Happy Feet. Which at least beat Cars. What an utterly shit year - Monster House was robbed.

Which reminds me - Hugo reminds me an awful lot, from trailers et al, of City of Ember. That's not a great thing. Especially when it doesn't have Bill Murray.  




elab49 -> RE: Annual Poll - Top 10 films of 2011 (7/12/2011 1:30:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Pigeon Army
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ORIGINAL: elab49
(eg Camino - still absent from these shores [>:]).


Order it from Madman Entertainment in Australia/NZ, they released it on DVD a couple of months ago.


I'm going to have to - there's no point waiting for it anymore.




Pigeon Army -> RE: Annual Poll - Top 10 films of 2011 (7/12/2011 1:32:22 PM)


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Rango is one of those ones that is a bugger in the Best Animated category. Are they judging on animation - in which case, high marks. Or on the film? In which case, loser.


The hell is wrong with you people




rick_7 -> RE: Annual Poll - Top 10 films of 2011 (7/12/2011 1:33:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Pigeon Army


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ORIGINAL: elab49

Rango is one of those ones that is a bugger in the Best Animated category. Are they judging on animation - in which case, high marks. Or on the film? In which case, loser.


The hell is wrong with you people


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Rango (Gore Verbinski, 2011) – OK animated feature about a chameleon posing as a hero in the town of Dirt, which works in extended spoofs of spaghetti Westerns and Chinatown, along with some excellent slapstick and a peculiar predilection for jokes about adult health complaints. Johnny Depp’s voicework is a bit strained and the story is bitty in the extreme, but there are effective stretches. Kung Fu Panda 2 was aces, but with this, Tangled and Cars 2, it hasn’t been a great year for animation, all told. (2.5)




elab49 -> RE: Annual Poll - Top 10 films of 2011 (7/12/2011 1:34:47 PM)

And I believe my reply was 'pretty much ditto - but gorgeous woodcutty type animation work'.




rick_7 -> RE: Annual Poll - Top 10 films of 2011 (7/12/2011 1:40:24 PM)

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And I believe my reply was 'pretty much ditto - but gorgeous woodcutty type animation work'.

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I was disappointed with just how forced this felt. All the self-aware acting schtick would have been meaningless to the young audience and bored the bejesus out of me, and the story simply felt as if it had been patched together by someone really bored but who loved drawing pictures. And some of the almost woodcutty animation of the critters was just genuinely wonderful.

Yep. [:D]




impqueen -> RE: Annual Poll - Top 10 films of 2011 (7/12/2011 1:41:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: elab49

Rango is one of those ones that is a bugger in the Best Animated category. Are they judging on animation - in which case, high marks. Or on the film? In which case, loser. Unless you are Happy Feet. Which at least beat Cars. What an utterly shit year - Monster House was robbed.

Which reminds me - Hugo reminds me an awful lot, from trailers et al, of City of Ember. That's not a great thing. Especially when it doesn't have Bill Murray.  


Yes, yes it was.





Harry Tuttle -> RE: Annual Poll - Top 10 films of 2011 (7/12/2011 1:43:13 PM)

I've not been able to watch Rango from start to finish because I find it too dull. There are a couple of Fear and Loathing sight gags early on that amused me but beyond that I found it extremely tedious. It wasn't able to hold my daughter's attention for more than about 20 minutes either. Major Fail as they say on the internetz.




Gimli The Dwarf -> RE: Annual Poll - Top 10 films of 2011 (7/12/2011 1:55:28 PM)

Rango's great. I bet PA wishes I weren't the only one on his side [:D]


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ORIGINAL: elab49
Rango is one of those ones that is a bugger in the Best Animated category. Are they judging on animation - in which case, high marks. Or on the film? In which case, loser. Unless you are Happy Feet. Which at least beat Cars. What an utterly shit year - Monster House was robbed.


Monster House is great. Cars is better.

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ORIGINAL: elab49
Which reminds me - Hugo reminds me an awful lot, from trailers et al, of City of Ember. That's not a great thing. Especially when it doesn't have Bill Murray.  


I've not seen City Of Ember, but I doubt anything with Bill; Murray comes close to being as good as Hugo, but I reckon Hugo will split people on here quite a bit.






shool -> RE: Annual Poll - Top 10 films of 2011 (7/12/2011 2:17:42 PM)

I really want to see Hugo. But i fear my two little ones are a bit young for it. Age 4 and 6.
Thoughts?




Harry Tuttle -> RE: Annual Poll - Top 10 films of 2011 (7/12/2011 2:18:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: shool

I really want to see Hugo. But i fear my two little ones are a bit young for it. Age 4 and 6.
Thoughts?


Yeah my daughter's 6 and I'm unsure whether to take her to see it or not myself.




rick_7 -> RE: Annual Poll - Top 10 films of 2011 (7/12/2011 2:22:06 PM)

You could drop them round ours on Saturday - me and Mrs_7 are watching Ice Age 3.




shool -> RE: Annual Poll - Top 10 films of 2011 (7/12/2011 2:23:52 PM)

Perfect. Will drop them off after lunch.

You're not a pervert or anything are you?




rick_7 -> RE: Annual Poll - Top 10 films of 2011 (7/12/2011 2:30:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: shool

Perfect. Will drop them off after lunch.

You're not a pervert or anything are you?

Is this in lieu of a CRB check? I'm not, no. Hope this is sufficient. [:D]




Gimli The Dwarf -> RE: Annual Poll - Top 10 films of 2011 (7/12/2011 2:34:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: shool

I really want to see Hugo. But i fear my two little ones are a bit young for it. Age 4 and 6.
Thoughts?



As someone who spends life trying to avoid all contact with children of all ages, I may not be the best person to ask [:D] But I would say they're probably too young. A few restless youngsters at the screening I saw. I think it's really an adult film that might appeal to kids rather than the opposite.




shool -> RE: Annual Poll - Top 10 films of 2011 (7/12/2011 2:47:29 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Gimli The Dwarf


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ORIGINAL: shool

I really want to see Hugo. But i fear my two little ones are a bit young for it. Age 4 and 6.
Thoughts?



As someone who spends life trying to avoid all contact with children of all ages, I may not be the best person to ask [:D] But I would say they're probably too young. A few restless youngsters at the screening I saw. I think it's really an adult film that might appeal to kids rather than the opposite.



That was my impression off the trailers and reviews too.




rick_7 -> RE: Annual Poll - Top 10 films of 2011 (7/12/2011 2:50:46 PM)

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As someone who spends life trying to avoid all contact with children of all ages, I may not be the best person to ask [:D]

But little children like Wallace & Gromit and Pixar nearly as much as you do. I think you'd get on famously.




Harry Tuttle -> RE: Annual Poll - Top 10 films of 2011 (7/12/2011 2:54:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Gimli The Dwarf

As someone who spends life trying to avoid all contact with children of all ages, I may not be the best person to ask [:D]

But little children like Wallace & Gromit and Pixar nearly as much as you do. I think you'd get on famously.


Even kids don't like Rango and Tangled though, so maybe not [:D].




Rebel scum -> RE: Annual Poll - Top 10 films of 2011 (7/12/2011 2:56:41 PM)

I'm surprised to see all the Rango hate, I enjoyed it. I mean, it has a snake with a machine gun tail!




Gimli The Dwarf -> RE: Annual Poll - Top 10 films of 2011 (7/12/2011 3:01:34 PM)


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ORIGINAL: rick_7

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ORIGINAL: Gimli The Dwarf

As someone who spends life trying to avoid all contact with children of all ages, I may not be the best person to ask [:D]

But little children like Wallace & Gromit and Pixar nearly as much as you do. I think you'd get on famously.



Aardman and Pixar are too good for kids!




shool -> RE: Annual Poll - Top 10 films of 2011 (7/12/2011 3:03:02 PM)


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ORIGINAL: rick_7

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ORIGINAL: Gimli The Dwarf

As someone who spends life trying to avoid all contact with children of all ages, I may not be the best person to ask [:D]

But little children like Wallace & Gromit and Pixar nearly as much as you do. I think you'd get on famously.



Aardman and Pixar are too good for kids!


Elitist. [:D]




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