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JIm R -> Summer Transfers 2011/12 (6/6/2011 8:38:51 PM)

Same as last summer, who do you want your club to buy, sell etc and who do you think you'll actually get....




Scott_ -> RE: Summer Transfers 2011/12 (6/6/2011 9:35:25 PM)

Sergio Aguero. He would create a dynamite partnership with Luciano Becchio...

Come on Sergio, you know you want to.




superdan -> RE: Summer Transfers 2011/12 (6/6/2011 9:41:13 PM)

It looks almost certain O' Harais going to sign a permanent deal for Wolves, which I'm pleased about. Need decent center-backs though, Berra is a clown.




Harry Tuttle -> RE: Summer Transfers 2011/12 (7/6/2011 5:01:35 PM)

I'd like to see Rodwell and either Modric or Sneijder as well as a decent left winger (Not Ashley Young or Stewart Downing).

Unfortunately it looks like the Young deal will be finalised this week.

As long as we don't sign Charlie Adam though...





Rinc -> RE: Summer Transfers 2011/12 (7/6/2011 6:18:36 PM)

I would have liked Young but he looks Man U bound.

Downning is alright but I'd rather we spent money on a better winger. I'd love someone like Hazard or Mata. Can't see it though.

I'm not too fussed about Adam either and with us buying Henderson I'm not sure we'll go for him. On the subject of Henderson, he's looked good when I've seen him this season but he is incredibly overpriced at 18-20m. I'm also a bit confused why we're spending that amount of money on a centre mid when we've already got Meireles, Spearing, Lucas, Shelvey and Gerrard.

We need another centre back, rumours are rife we're going for Phil Jones which would be good.

We also need a left back and have been linked with Sissokho, Enrique and loads of others.

We also need a striker as backup to Suarez and Carroll. We're being heavily linked to Wickham.




Harry Tuttle -> RE: Summer Transfers 2011/12 (7/6/2011 6:24:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Rinc

I would have liked Young but he looks Man U bound.

Downning is alright but I'd rather we spent money on a better winger. I'd love someone like Hazard or Mata. Can't see it though.

I'm not too fussed about Adam either and with us buying Henderson I'm not sure we'll go for him. On the subject of Henderson, he's looked good when I've seen him this season but he is incredibly overpriced at 18-20m. I'm also a bit confused why we're spending that amount of money on a centre mid when we've already got Meireles, Spearing, Lucas, Shelvey and Gerrard.

We need another centre back, rumours are rife we're going for Phil Jones which would be good.

We also need a left back and have been linked with Sissokho, Enrique and loads of others.

We also need a striker as backup to Suarez and Carroll. We're being heavily linked to Wickham.


I wouldn't have minded seeing Henderson at OT but not at that price. Maybe 8-10m. Like you I can't understand why you're paying so much for him considering you seem sorted (pretty much) in midfield. Saying that though it seems Brucie will be redirecting the Henderson cash into our coffers and taking Darron Gibson and Wes Brown (who is a shadow of the player he was about 3-4 seasons ago) off our hands in the process.

Result [:D].




Rinc -> RE: Summer Transfers 2011/12 (7/6/2011 6:28:48 PM)

Bruce will do anything Fergie tells him. [:D]




directorscut -> RE: Summer Transfers 2011/12 (7/6/2011 8:34:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Rinc
I'm not too fussed about Adam either and with us buying Henderson I'm not sure we'll go for him. On the subject of Henderson, he's looked good when I've seen him this season but he is incredibly overpriced at 18-20m. I'm also a bit confused why we're spending that amount of money on a centre mid when we've already got Meireles, Spearing, Lucas, Shelvey and Gerrard.


Jesus what insanity!  Dalglish does realize that figure is millions and not thousands like in his day, right?




jediwarrior -> RE: Summer Transfers 2011/12 (8/6/2011 8:54:52 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Rinc

I. On the subject of Henderson, he's looked good when I've seen him this season but he is incredibly overpriced at 18-20m.


He is young and English so you always pay more. At least if he didn't work out he will have a resale value with plenty of years left in him.




pocketrocket -> RE: Summer Transfers 2011/12 (8/6/2011 9:40:54 AM)

13m + Ngog

Apparently Adam, Downing, Wickham, Jones and Mata to follow... blimey!




Flatulent_Bob -> RE: Summer Transfers 2011/12 (8/6/2011 12:39:00 PM)


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ORIGINAL: pocketrocket

13m + Ngog

Apparently Adam, Downing, Wickham, Jones and Mata to follow... blimey!


So 13 Million then?


I am losing my mind or can Henderson play out wide?





thatlittlemonkey -> RE: Summer Transfers 2011/12 (8/6/2011 1:04:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: pocketrocket

13m + Ngog

Apparently Adam, Downing, Wickham, Jones and Mata to follow... blimey!


Sky Sports are reporting that Jones is at Carrington, due to sign on a 5 year contract for United.




LB Jeffries -> RE: Summer Transfers 2011/12 (8/6/2011 1:11:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Flatulent_Bob


quote:

ORIGINAL: pocketrocket

13m + Ngog

Apparently Adam, Downing, Wickham, Jones and Mata to follow... blimey!


So 13 Million then?


I am losing my mind or can Henderson play out wide?




Henderson played about half of all his games for us as a right-winger. His best position is centre midfield but he probably needs to mature a bit more to hold down that position in top class team.




pocketrocket -> RE: Summer Transfers 2011/12 (8/6/2011 1:15:15 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thatlittlemonkey


quote:

ORIGINAL: pocketrocket

13m + Ngog

Apparently Adam, Downing, Wickham, Jones and Mata to follow... blimey!


Sky Sports are reporting that Jones is at Carrington, due to sign on a 5 year contract for United.


Yep hearing same thing, shame if its true. He would of got game time at Liverpool, not sure he'll be ahead of Ferdinand or Vidic (injuries aside).




Harry Tuttle -> RE: Summer Transfers 2011/12 (8/6/2011 1:20:24 PM)


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ORIGINAL: pocketrocket


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ORIGINAL: thatlittlemonkey


quote:

ORIGINAL: pocketrocket

13m + Ngog

Apparently Adam, Downing, Wickham, Jones and Mata to follow... blimey!


Sky Sports are reporting that Jones is at Carrington, due to sign on a 5 year contract for United.


Yep hearing same thing, shame if its true. He would of got game time at Liverpool, not sure he'll be ahead of Ferdinand or Vidic (injuries aside).


Plus there's Smalling and *cough* Johnny Evans *cough* to get past. Ok maybe not so much Evans but I thought Smalling had an excellent debut season and it would be a shame to see him shunted to the sidelines.




pocketrocket -> RE: Summer Transfers 2011/12 (8/6/2011 1:23:59 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Flatulent_Bob


quote:

ORIGINAL: pocketrocket

13m + Ngog

Apparently Adam, Downing, Wickham, Jones and Mata to follow... blimey!


So 13 Million then?






Or 7m if we're to believe the 20m tag Sky are (mis)reporting...


FSG net spend so far Carroll 35m + Suarez 22m + Henderson 13m - Torres 50m - Babel 7m - Ngog (?) = 13m

More to come...




thatlittlemonkey -> RE: Summer Transfers 2011/12 (8/6/2011 1:30:23 PM)

I think it's a good, potentially great signing. Evans is increasingly showing that he's not up to it, and with plenty of other clubs sniffing around him, Ferguson is likely to be picking him up now with an eye on the future - Jones and Smalling eventually succeeding Rio and Vidic at the back.




Rinc -> RE: Summer Transfers 2011/12 (8/6/2011 7:09:37 PM)


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ORIGINAL: pocketrocket


quote:

ORIGINAL: Flatulent_Bob


quote:

ORIGINAL: pocketrocket

13m + Ngog

Apparently Adam, Downing, Wickham, Jones and Mata to follow... blimey!


So 13 Million then?






Or 7m if we're to believe the 20m tag Sky are (mis)reporting...


FSG net spend so far Carroll 35m + Suarez 22m + Henderson 13m - Torres 50m - Babel 7m - Ngog (?) = 13m

More to come...


The total deal for Henderson is worth 20m though. We're paying them 13m plus Ngog so it isn't us paying them 13m and them paying us 7m.




JIm R -> RE: Summer Transfers 2011/12 (8/6/2011 7:11:15 PM)

How Ngog is valued at 7 million I'll never know.




Epiphany Demon -> RE: Summer Transfers 2011/12 (8/6/2011 7:25:42 PM)

Like I said in the Utd thread, I'm chuffed with Jones, great prospect.




directorscut -> RE: Summer Transfers 2011/12 (8/6/2011 7:58:22 PM)

My sympathies to Sunderland fans.




Rinc -> RE: Summer Transfers 2011/12 (8/6/2011 8:27:13 PM)

Ngog is a good player and he'll do well for Sunderland. Unfortunately for us he was too often played up front on his own, was isolated and then when Kenny came in he was barely used.




directorscut -> RE: Summer Transfers 2011/12 (8/6/2011 8:38:06 PM)

You're his agent, aren't you?




Rinc -> RE: Summer Transfers 2011/12 (8/6/2011 9:47:18 PM)

Yes and everytime you mention him you owe us 10.




directorscut -> RE: Summer Transfers 2011/12 (8/6/2011 9:54:35 PM)

Every time he scores I get 10,000.






I'm skint.




LB Jeffries -> RE: Summer Transfers 2011/12 (8/6/2011 10:22:46 PM)

Henderson has gone for 16m upfront. Ngog has nothing to do with the Henderson deal and his move to Sunderland is said to be stalling over wage demands.




Professor Moriarty -> RE: Summer Transfers 2011/12 (9/6/2011 3:03:03 PM)

I saw in the ManU thread a link to the interview with Tevez, who apparently has proclaimed he won't be coming back to Manchester, even to visit.

Now I've not got a lot of time for Tevez, He obviously likes to move around. The idea that he's suddenly found Manchester a terrible place to live after transferring from Utd to City is laughable at best.

But it gets me thinking. He's practically priced himself out of any club being able to buy him from City and he says he's not going back. So what would happen there. I'm guessing if he really does refuse to return City can sue him for breach of contract, which would be one hell of a law suit.




JIm R -> RE: Summer Transfers 2011/12 (9/6/2011 4:35:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Professor Moriarty

I saw in the ManU thread a link to the interview with Tevez, who apparently has proclaimed he won't be coming back to Manchester, even to visit.

Now I've not got a lot of time for Tevez, He obviously likes to move around. The idea that he's suddenly found Manchester a terrible place to live after transferring from Utd to City is laughable at best.

But it gets me thinking. He's practically priced himself out of any club being able to buy him from City and he says he's not going back. So what would happen there. I'm guessing if he really does refuse to return City can sue him for breach of contract, which would be one hell of a law suit.


The big issue with him saying he wants a move is based on him not seeing his children and wife back in South America and he wants to be closer to them etc., is the solution not for them to move to the UK and integrate here.
 
Back to PM's raised point, I agree, surely having lived in the North-West and Manchester for a while now, he'd have picked up on the fact that it rains a fair bit  [:D]
 
My view it's a fantastic city, he should love it.




gazpop -> RE: Summer Transfers 2011/12 (11/6/2011 11:24:17 AM)

It's cos he's banned from both The Queen of Tarts AND Jabba's Clegg. He'll come back to City, put his kids through Gorton primary school, score a hatful of goals, change nationalities to English and go on to manage them. AND England winning us 3 world cups.....as player manager! Either that or he'll be in La Liga or Serie A innit?
I'm not sure if Mancini is a great man-manager (although Capello makes him look like Ferguson, Clough and Bobby all rolled in one) but I don't think either parties did themselves too many favours last year. He is such a good player but he seems to have itchy feet. I do too. But mine aren't worth 35 mill. Any more rumours about where he'll be next year? As for Man U (boo), Ferguson seems to have done it again with Jones and Smalling, future of Man U's backline for 10 years to come. Git. Henderson will have to be turned into a full scale winger for us. Mainly as we don't really have any. Poor old Dirky Dirk; never thought he'd have to run like a loon for us, season after season I bet. Maybe Park JS can slip him some of that special eastern potion he must have a supply of.....




Goodfella -> RE: Summer Transfers 2011/12 (14/6/2011 2:41:25 PM)

We've made three signings so far this summer. Goalkeeper John Sullivan, who we had on loan from Millwall for the last couple of months last season, has signed permenantly to replace Ross Worner who has been released, rather inexplicable that one for me since I was impressed with Worner last season and I don't see Sullivan as a better option, it seems to be just a straight swap. Don't know about Rob Elliot's future to be honest, he's been linked with West Ham and Newcastle and I think he only has a year left on his contract so his future seems a bit uncertain but that's one we'll have to wait and see what happens further on in the summer.

We've also picked up Danny Hollands as a free agent from Bournemouth. He seemed to play a pretty big part for them last season although the arrival of another two central midfielders suggests Therry Racon may be off this summer which is disappointing. We've also signed Bradley Pritchard from Hayes and Yeading (no idea!), that's our second signing from the non-league in four seasons and the previous two, Chris Dickson and the forementioned Worner, only managed a handful of games between them so I do wonder whether Pritchard will still be with us next season. According to Powell he's "at the right point to make the next step in his career and we're here to help him with that." Well given we've just had another utter failure of the season, I'm not over the moon to see us dunking ourselves into the business of granting unproven players a contract to give them a shot at the big time. We need to sign proven League One players, like Hollands, and blood some of our own highly-rated youth (like we did last season with Jenkinson) than be signing players we'll be shipping out on loan come Novemeber, still paying their wages and then releasing them this time next year.

Paul Hart has come on board as academy director and Jeff Vetre has arrived from Aston Villa as technical director. Peter Varney has also come out and claimed the club was "perilously close to adminstration" last season before he came on board with new owners Tony Jiminez and Michael Slater. Rather concerning though that Slater feels there's "no pressure" on to win promotion again next season, that absolutely has to be the target and if he's serious about "being the chairman of a premier division club for at least one season" in his career then he will know that's the case. I think whilst Varney pushed the takeover through, it was also his decision, along with Richard Murray, to appoint Iain Dowie and then Les Reed and then Alan Pardew in charge that led us down the slippery slope that has lead us to where we are now.




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