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MI Cruise -> TV Season - 2013-14 (21/4/2011 2:36:28 PM)

A thread for people to discuss renewals/cancellations rather than creating new threads each year. Also a thread for news and discussion of upcoming shows that you might be interested in. Also if you want to discuss whether American TV is better than British or simply just want to recommend a show or want a show recommended to you...

COME ON IN!

So with the latest news pouring in of which shows are going to be renewed and cancelled, it seems like the general favourites have been saved (Fringe). There are just a few big titles that need their fate securing such as The Good Wife along with a few others.

Also Im looking forward to Falling Skies which Im glad to hear will be airing on FX here and would like to recommend people Happy Endings and Breaking In if they are looking for new half hour comedies to cheer them up.




vad3r -> RE: General TV Discussion (21/4/2011 2:47:12 PM)

Great idea for a thread, everyone knows that TV > Films anyway.

Endangered:

Blue Bloods
Its early strength on Friday nights has been weakened by a move to Wednesdays that CBS is probably regretting. Now the question is whether the network will give it another shot (likely back on Fridays) or not.

The Cape
NBC's latest attempt at a superhero series debuted low and only dropped further each week. The network has cut its episode order from 13 to 10, all but solidifying it won't be back.
Update: NBC decided to only air nine of the ten produced Cape episodes, banishing what is almost certainly the series finale to online.

Chuck
I know, this is a frustrating sense of déjà vu, no? Every season, Chuck fans wait with baited breath to see if the show will return, so why should 2011 be any different? The ratings are not great, but for what it's worth, Chuck is doing better than the rest of NBC's Monday lineup. Some recent dips in the ratings have been troubling, but we're once again crossing our fingers Chuck can come back.

Criminal Minds: Suspect Behavior
The spinoff of the CBS hit, Criminal Minds, Suspect Behavior is not holding on to much of the audience of the original. But will the network give it one more season to prove itself?

CSI: Miami
While both CSI: Miami and New York are performing far lower than before, Miami has a better shot at renewal.

CSI: NY
The CSI franchise seems to finally be dying down, and the spinoffs seem likely to end before the original. New York is the first on the chopping block…

The Event
It's hard not to make jokes about the title of this show, which failed to be a true event in anyway, seeing its large initial audience quickly diminish. While it got a full season order, it's a longshot for it to come back.

The Good Wife
Among CBS's powerhouse lineup, The Good Wife is a lower-performing show. But it has a ton of critical support and a loyal fanbase that skews from the procedural-friendly fare on the network. The overall love for the series is likely enough to get it renewed again.

Human Target
This fun action series was somewhat burned off in its second season, with episodes rapidly aired to make room for FOX's spring schedule. At this point, chances aren't so good for Christopher Chance – but he's gotten out of some awfully tough scrapes in the past.

Harry's Law
When it comes to actual viewers, Harry's Law actually is doing remarkably well for NBC. The problem is, it has low ratings, based on how older-skewing it is. Still, NBC has few successes these days, and Harry's Law has a decent chance at returning, while the network attempts to rebuild their schedule.

Law & Order: Los Angeles
Pulled off the air amidst a huge cast turnover, it's too early to say what the future holds for the latest Law Order series until we see how it performs when it returns.

Lie To Me
This series has been off and on the FOX schedule many times over its three seasons. Right now, things are looking pretty grim for Lie to Me and Human Target, with it very unlikely for both to return.

Nikita
There are some big fans of this series here at IGN and we're actually pretty hopeful it will return. It doesn't hold onto all of its Vampire Diaries lead-in, but that doesn't mean CW will be dropping it - We keep thinking it might move to Fridays in the fall, paired with Supernatural, now that Smallville is ending.

No Ordinary Family
ABC's attempt at a superhero series, No Ordinary Family has dropped lower and lower through the season in the ratings and looks unlikely to continue.
Update: While officially in second position (meaning they'd stay with No Ordinary Family if it were renewed), it certainly is not a vote of confidence for NOF to have its two main stars, Michael Chiklis and Julie Benz, sign onto new pilots recently.

One Tree Hill
On a recent episode of Glee, Brittany said she couldn't die until One Tree Hill ended. At this rate, that seems to mean she'll be immortal! An astounding eight seasons in, OTH has remained remarkably resilient and continues to perform well for The CW. However, with most of the cast's contracts up this year, the show's fate is once again in doubt.

Parenthood
Parenthood did quite well for NBC last spring, but lost many viewers in the current TV season. Still, NBC has to renew some shows, and this is a prestige project the network will likely want to continue investing in.

Two And A Half Men
When is a show that's already been officially renewed -- and the number one comedy on TV -- still in danger? When it starred Charlie Sheen. What should be a sure thing for next fall suddenly finds itself in a very questionable scenario, as Sheen's off-camera behavior has led to him being fired from the series. So far, there is no official word on whether CBS and Warner Bros. will continue the show without Sheen, though there's certainly plenty of speculation on who might replace him if that does occur.

V
It's a weak performer for ABC, but it is the strongest of the network's Tuesday night lineup. It's possible V could get renewed again, likely once more positioned as a midseason series.

Won't Be Back:

Medium
Five seasons on NBC and another two on CBS is nothing to scoff at, but in the face of very diminished ratings, CBS put an end to the Patricia Arquette series

Smallville
After a remarkable ten year run, The CW announced Clark Kent's long journey towards wearing tights and a cape would finally conclude this season.

Undercovers (JJ Abrams show)
J.J. Abrams can't hit them all out of the park. The Lost/Alias/Fringe creator's attempt at a more procedural, lighthearted series felt "off" from the beginning for a creator known for cool, mythology-based series, and was mostly ignored by viewers.

Safe For Next Season:

The Amazing Race (Renewal Expected)
American Dad (Officially Renewed)
America's Next Top Model (Renewal Expected)
The Big Bang Theory (Officially Renewed)
Bob's Burgers (Officially Renewed)
Bones (Renewal Expected)
Castle (Officially Renewed)
The Cleveland Show (Officially Renewed)
Community (Officially Renewed)
Cougar Town (Officially Renewed)
Criminal Minds (Renewal Expected)
Desperate Housewives (Renewal Expected)
Family Guy (Renewal Expected)
Fringe (Officially Renewed)
Glee (Officially Renewed)
Gossip Girl (Renewal Expected)
Grey's Anatomy (Officially Renewed)
Hawaii Five-0 (Renewal Expected)
Hellcats (Renewal Expected)
How I Met Your Mother (Officially Renewed)
House (Renewal Expected)
Law & Order: SVU (Renewal Expected)
Mike & Molly (Renewal Expected)
The Middle (Officially Renewed)
Modern Family (Officially Renewed)


- ABC
Modern Family's Gloria and Jay toast their early renewal
NCIS (Officially Renewed)
NCIS: Los Angeles (Renewal Expected)
90210 (Renewal Expected)
The Office (Officially Renewed)
Parks and Recreation (Officially Renewed)
Private Practice (Officially Renewed)
Raising Hope (Officially Renewed)
Rules of Engagement (Renewal Expected)
The Simpsons (Officially Renewed)
Supernatural (Renewal Expected)
Survivor (Officially Renewed)
30 Rock (Officially Renewed)




MI Cruise -> RE: General TV Discussion (21/4/2011 2:49:06 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: vad3r

Great idea for a thread, everyone knows that TV > Films anyway.

Endangered:

Blue Bloods
The Cape
Chuck
Criminal Minds: Suspect Behavior
CSI: Miami
CSI: NY
The Good Wife
The Event
Human Target
Harry's Law
Law & Order: Los Angeles
Lie To Me
Nikita
No Ordinary Family
One Tree Hill
Parenthood
Two And A Half Men
V

Won't Be Back:

Medium
Smallville
Undercovers (JJ Abrams show)

Safe For Next Season:

The Amazing Race (Renewal Expected)
American Dad (Officially Renewed)
America's Next Top Model (Renewal Expected)
The Big Bang Theory (Officially Renewed)
Bob's Burgers (Officially Renewed)
Bones (Renewal Expected)
Castle (Officially Renewed)
The Cleveland Show (Officially Renewed)
Community (Officially Renewed)
Cougar Town (Officially Renewed)
Criminal Minds (Renewal Expected)
Desperate Housewives (Renewal Expected)
Family Guy (Renewal Expected)
Fringe (Officially Renewed)
Glee (Officially Renewed)
Gossip Girl (Renewal Expected)
Grey's Anatomy (Officially Renewed)
Hawaii Five-0 (Renewal Expected)
Hellcats (Renewal Expected)
How I Met Your Mother (Officially Renewed)
House (Renewal Expected)
Law & Order: SVU (Renewal Expected)
Mike & Molly (Renewal Expected)
The Middle (Officially Renewed)
Modern Family (Officially Renewed)


- ABC
Modern Family's Gloria and Jay toast their early renewal
NCIS (Officially Renewed)
NCIS: Los Angeles (Renewal Expected)
90210 (Renewal Expected)
The Office (Officially Renewed)
Parks and Recreation (Officially Renewed)
Private Practice (Officially Renewed)
Raising Hope (Officially Renewed)
Rules of Engagement (Renewal Expected)
The Simpsons (Officially Renewed)
Supernatural (Renewal Expected)
Survivor (Officially Renewed)
30 Rock (Officially Renewed)


hasnt The Cape already been cancelled after 10 episodes.




vad3r -> RE: General TV Discussion (21/4/2011 2:52:25 PM)

Highly anticipated shows



Locke & Key (FOX)
The ever-busy Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman are producing this comic book adaptation, and we're excited that Josh Friedman (Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles) is the man crafting the story. The comic book has a lot of cool and dark material to draw upon, as a family moves into their uncle's home after the death of a loved one, only to find very strange and supernatural events occurring around them.
Update: The full cast of Locke & Key includes Miranda Otto (The Lord of the Rings) as the mother, Nina Locke and Mark Pellegrino (Lost, Being Human) as the father, Rendell, with Jess McCartney (Young Justice) as oldest son, Tyler, and Sarah Bolger and Skylar Gaertner as his siblings, Kinsey and Bode. Nick Stahl (Terminator 3) plays the kids' uncle, Duncan.

Grimm (NBC)
There are a surprising amount of high concept pilots this year, including this one, about a cop investigating crimes in a world populated by real life fairy tale characters. Yes, we're reminded of the comic book Fables, which unfortunately never came to be as a series. But Angel co-creator David Greenwalt being the man behind this project has us hopeful. Though as you'll see below, this isn't the only network pilot with a fairy tale concept this year...
Update: Bitsie Tulloch (Quarterlife) and Sasha Roiz (Caprica) are among the cast of Grimm.

17th Precinct (NBC)
Besides Grimm, NBC has yet another offbeat police procedural with a fantasy bent. The fact that Battlestar's Ron Moore is the man behind this story of cops in a world where magic, not science, is the norm, has our instant attention. Casting so far has included Stockard Channing and BSG alum Jamie Bamber.
Update: Moore decided to not hold back when it came to casting Battlestar alum in 17th Precinct, with Bamber soon joined by Tricia Helfer and James Callis, not to mention Caprica alum Esai Morales. Helfer tweeted the following photo of her, Bamber and Callis on the set.

Wonder Woman (NBC)
Look, we're nervous too, that's for sure. David E. Kelley is a talented man, but seems an odd choice to write and produce a new take on the DC superhero and a recent script report about the project didn't help. But we're crossing our fingers that the end product is something exciting and involving, and that Diana Prince gets a series worthy of her. Adrianne Palicki (Friday Night Lights) being cast as Diana is at least something we like the sound of.
Update: The cast for Wonder Woman soon grew to include Elizabeth Hurley (Austin Powers) as a villain and Justin Bruening (Knight Rider) as Steve Trevor. But the first officially released photo from the project has hardly made any comic book fans optimistic, with a much-criticized suit. Photos leaked from the set a couple of weeks later show a suit with some modifications, including swapping out the silly-looking vinyl/shiny pants. But suffice to say, Wonder Woman has a lot to prove right now.

Alcatraz (FOX)
There are a lot of big TV (and movie) names behind some of these projects, but the one name that inevitably pops up the most is Lost creator J.J. Abrams, who now uses his hefty clout to help produce ideas and concepts from former collaborators. This time he's teaming with Lost writer Elizabeth Sarnoff for Alcatraz, a series about a group of former prison inmates and guards who mysteriously vanished from "The Rock", only to reappear in the present.
"I don't want to give too much away about the show," Abrams told IGN, "but I will say that the premise of the show, while I love the premise, I love it, I will say that Liz Sarnoff took this very cool idea and made it into this just beautifully written, emotional, funny, deep, suspenseful script." Lost's Jorge Garcia is set to star as hippie-ish Alcatraz expert, Dr. Diego Soto, among a cast that also includes Sarah Jones and Jurassic Park's Sam Neill.

Person of Interest (CBS)
Truth be told, we don't usually get too excited about CBS pilots, but with J.J. Abrams backing a story and premise by Jonathan Nolan (Christopher Nolan's bro, writer of The Dark Knight, The Dark Knight Rises, The Prestige), we're extremely interested in Person of Interest. Yes, it's being made for CBS so the jury's still out on how much of a stand-alone "procedural" this series will be, but the concept of an ex-CIA hitman who teams with a scientist (or is that a billionaire? We've heard both) to prevent crimes before they happen has us frothing at the bit.
Update: Hard to fault the casting on this one, with Lost's awesome Michael Emerson joining the project, along with Jim Caviezel.

Once Upon a Time (ABC)
Once upon a time (and as noted in our Grimm write up above as well), ABC was toying around with the idea of adapting the acclaimed DC/Vertigo comic book series Fables, about a hidden society living in modern-day New York made up of the real incarnations of fairy tale characters, for TV. As we all know now, and lament, that never panned out, and now that Disney's bought Marvel there's little chance of a DC property landing on the Disney-owned ABC. But along comes a project from Lost/Tron Legacy writers Edward Kitsis and Adam Horowitz -- about a woman with a troubled past arriving at a small Maine town where the magic and mystery of fairy tales just may be real -- and we see that the network was able to move forward with a fairy tale project after all.
Update: Notable cast members for Once Upon a Time include Jennifer Morrison (House), as the lead character, Anna, Ginnifer Goodwin (Big Love) as Snow White, Lana Parrilla (Swingtown) as the Evil Queen and Robert Carlyle (Stargate Universe) as Rumplestiltskin.

Charlie's Angels (ABC)
Look, all we're asking for is something fun. The requisite eye candy part of this latest incarnation of the 1970s series is certainly already covered, with Minka Kelly, Rachael Taylor and Annie Ilonzeh playing the new batch of ass kicking gals. And for now, we'll reserve judgment on the casting of a much younger Bosley (Transformers 2's Ramon Rodriguez). Angels, 2011 edition, comes from Smallville creators Alfred Gough and Miles Millar.

Playboy (NBC)
With AMC's Emmy-winning Mad Men so in vogue at the moment, it's very likely that we'll all get hit with retro-vertigo if NBC's Playboy and ABC's Pan Am, both being series set in the 60's, get picked up for series. Would NBC (or any of the networks, really) be our first pick as host to a show that focuses on the New York City Playboy Club, during the club's heyday? Admittedly, no. But the casting of Amber Heard and Naturi Naughton (who played a Playboy Bunny in the NYC Playboy Club on Mad Men) doesn't hurt matters and until we see the finished product we can always do that thing where we hope that such a show will rise to meet our expectations instead of being typical "middle of the road" watered down primetime fare.

Ringer (CBS)
Extremely fond memories of Buffy have us excited to see Sarah Michelle Gellar's potential return to series TV. The set-up -- with Gellar playing a woman taking on the identity of her twin, while pursued by the mob -- sounds convoluted but potentially cool in the right hands. The casting of Lost's Nestor Carbonell is a nice touch as well.

Prime Suspect (NBC)
NBC might have goofy stuff like Harry's Law, The Cape and The Event populating its schedule, but it also has ratings-winner Law & Order: SVU – aka "the most depressing series ever made." So when we heard that the Peacock Network wanted to remake the award-winning BBC Helen Mirren detective series, we hoped it would be just as gritty and dramatic as the original. The concept is nothing new (a smart, determined female detective in NYC) so this show will have to stand out the way the British one did – with the layering and the depth of its main character. Maria Bello (ER) has been chosen to fill Mirren's shoes as a female cop who, every day, must come face to face with her own city's atrocities, her own department's sexism and her own alcoholism.

Poe (ABC)
Sure, the real Edgar Allan Poe was a disturbed, fetishistic manic-depressive who married his 13-year-old cousin, but who says he can't be the charismatic, eccentric lead of a 19th century "steampunk" style crime buster series? Yes, ABC's making a pilot that will focus on Poe as the world's very first detective, as he uses unconventional methods to investigate dark mysteries in 1840s Boston. This isn't the only series in the works to feature pioneering detective fiction writer as a super sleuth though. Syfy is currently working on Among the Spirits, featuring the murder solving abilities of Sherlock Holmes author Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.
Update: Chris Egan (Kings) has been cast in the title role, offering what seems to be a decidedly young, handsome take on the famous writer.

REM (NBC)
The fact that NBC REM pilot is being described by the network as an "Inception-like thriller" just makes us wonder how much *not* like Inception *at all* this show will be. But the story, from Lone Star's Kyle Killen, sounds interesting as it involves a police detective living in two realities, who must solve cases using clues from each of his lives.
Update: The effortlessly awesome Jason Isaacs (Harry Potter) has been cast in the lead role of Mark Britten, with a supporting cast that includes Laura Allen (The 4400, Terriers), Wilmer Valderrama (That '70s Show) and Cherry Jones (24).

The Secret Circle (The CW)
The fact that Vampire Diaries has turned into such a surprisingly fun, addictive series has us curious about the prospects of Kevin Williamson (Scream) adapting yet another series of books from the same author – this one focused on a teenage girl who discovers she's a witch.
Update: Brittany Robertson (Life Unexpected) has been cast as lead character Cassie, alongside Thomas Dekker (Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles) and Natasha Henstridge (Species).




MI Cruise -> RE: General TV Discussion (21/4/2011 2:59:50 PM)

My favourite part of the TV year is around August sitting down and watching all the promos for the forthcoming pilots and trying to figure out which ones to watch and what will be cancelled. Interesting line up there, wasnt even aware of most of them




elab49 -> RE: General TV Discussion (21/4/2011 4:23:40 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: vad3r
REM (NBC)
The fact that NBC REM pilot is being described by the network as an "Inception-like thriller" just makes us wonder how much *not* like Inception *at all* this show will be. But the story, from Lone Star's Kyle Killen, sounds interesting as it involves a police detective living in two realities, who must solve cases using clues from each of his lives.


Bollocks. That's not Inception, that's the basic premise of the Jasper Fforde books.




Captain Black -> RE: New and Returning Shows 2011/2012 (21/4/2011 5:41:32 PM)

I'm changing this to a new shows thread; please keep the threads specific rather than a catch-all that just reduces the depth of the conversation. A ratings/cancel/renewal thread would be fine too.




Shifty Bench -> RE: General TV Discussion (21/4/2011 10:48:08 PM)

quote:


Prime Suspect (NBC)
remake the award-winning BBC Helen Mirren detective series,


I assume this has been taken off an American site? Prime Suspect was an ITV show, but was probably shown on BBC America.




vad3r -> RE: General TV Discussion (21/4/2011 11:01:08 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Shifty Bench

quote:


Prime Suspect (NBC)
remake the award-winning BBC Helen Mirren detective series,


I assume this has been taken off an American site? Prime Suspect was an ITV show, but was probably shown on BBC America.



Yeah IGN. In America British shows are shown only on BBC America.




Shifty Bench -> RE: General TV Discussion (21/4/2011 11:03:23 PM)

I know that, hence me mentioning BBC America [:D]

I just didn't know if they had been shown there at all.




vad3r -> RE: General TV Discussion (21/4/2011 11:18:51 PM)

More highly anticipated shows



The Borgias (Showtime)

Notable actors: Jeremy Irons, David Oakes, Holly Grainger and Colm Feore
The premise: The corrupt, conniving, incestuous Borgia family schemes its way to the top in 15th-century Italy as patriarch Rodrigo becomes pope. Wacky hijinks ensue.
Why we're excited about it: The real-life story behind the Borgias is vile enough to make most people blush, and now it's getting the Showtime treatment. Imagine lots of sex, violence, and period costumes. While The Borgias may not turn out to be a quality series along the lines of Dexter, it's almost certain to be a guilty pleasure.

Luck (HBO)

Notable actors: Dustin Hoffman, Nick Nolte, Dennis Farina, Michael Gambon
The premise: Luck explores the world of horse racing, as told through the eyes of horse owners, gamblers, handicappers, and anyone else involved with the ponies.
Why we're excited about it: Like a good Triple Crown winner, Luck is all about its pedigree. David Milch, who created NYPD Blue and Deadwood, and Michael Mann, the director of Heat and Manhunter, are behind the project. Add to that a cast that includes Dustin Hoffman as the lead, and this bet is a sure thing.

Camelot (Starz) Friday, April 1

A law was made a distant moon ago. July and August cannot be too hot. And there's a legal limit to the snow here... in "Camelot." Because you can never have too many different perspectives on the Arthurian legend, Starz is tackling the saga of Arthur, Guinevere, Merlin, Morgan and the rest of the gang, with the help of a top-notch cast including Jamie Campbell Bower, Joseph Fiennes, Eva Green, Claire Forlani, Tamsin Egerton and Peter Mooney. Unlike the green screen-crazy "Spartacus" series, "Camelot" was shot on location in Ireland, but like "Spartacus," it appears that the story has been framed to include all of the sex and violence contemporary premium cable audiences crave. "Camelot" will have to work hard to steal the April spotlight from HBO's somewhat similar "Game of Thrones."

Terra Nova (FOX) May, TBD

The Steven Spielberg-approved "Terra Nova" begins a hundred years or so in the future and then jumps millions of years into the past, as a colony of humans try to save their dying planet by relocating to prehistoric Earth. And the production of the show itself carries the same kind of uncertainty you often get from time travel. FOX execs developed "Terra Nova" last year, announced it at last spring's upfronts even though no one was cast and not a second of footage was shot, and are now planning to use the "Glee" plan and sneak preview a single episode after "American Idol" in May, then put it on the shelf until the fall of 2011. There's such a long lead time, in fact, that a large chunk of the writing staff was recently laid off, at least temporarily, since there was nothing for them to do. Will the FX-laden show - whose cast includes Jason O'Mara from "Life on Mars" and Stephen Lang from "Avatar" - eventually come together? We want to be hopeful, but perhaps the greatest concern is that one of the few writers who wasn't fired was controversial former "Star Trek" showrunner Brannon Braga, who's a lot more hands-on than Spielberg is.

Wilfred (FX) Summer, TBD

Elijah Wood makes his regular series debut in FX's "Wilfred," based on the extremely odd Australian series of the same name. The "Lord of the Rings" star plays an introvert who begins to break out of his shell with the help of the dog next door. Original series co-creator and co-star Jason Gann plays the dog, who everybody else sees as a normal canine, but who appears as a man in a dog suit to our hero. See? Odd. "Family Guy" veteran David Zuckerman adapted "Wilfred," which looks to take a place alongside "Louie," "Archer," "The League" and "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia" on FX's slate of acclaimed and quirky

Falling Skies (TNT) June, TBD

Just as the formula "Steven Spielberg + Dinosaurs" has us excited for "Terra Nova," we're equally jazzed by "Steven Spielberg + Aliens" and TNT's "Falling Skies," which picks up several months after an invasion by some not-so-friendly ETs. Noah Wyle, Moon Bloodgood and Will Patton are among the familiar faces playing leaders of the plucky human resistance. We've seen the first two hours of "Falling Skies" and given its pedigree -- "Saving Private Ryan" screenwriter Robert Rodat reunited with Spielberg to create the show -- it's no surprise that it plays like "War of the Worlds" meets "V" meets "The Patriot," an intriguing combination and an interesting new direction for TNT






MI Cruise -> RE: Renew/Cancel? (22/4/2011 11:49:39 AM)

Im looking forward to channel 4 showing Camelot here, I hear that its doing very well in the States.

Same with the Borgias which Im guessing Sky Atlantic will show after Game of Thrones finishes.




Your Funny Uncle -> RE: Renew/Cancel? (22/4/2011 12:10:03 PM)

Supernatural? I thought the already added on sixth season was going to be it's last?

If they cancel CSI NY and renew CSI Miami then there's something seriously wrong in the world!




MI Cruise -> RE: Renew/Cancel? (22/4/2011 12:36:09 PM)

I've been trying to get my head around how the US Nielson ratings work and after reading up on some, it seems to me more like an educated guess than anything else.

''Nielsen uses a technique called statistical sampling to rate the shows -- the same technique that pollsters use to predict the outcome of elections. Nielsen creates a "sample audience" and then counts how many in that audience view each program. Nielsen then extrapolates from the sample and estimates the number of viewers in the entire population watching the show. That's a simple way of explaining what is a complicated, extensive process. Nielsen relies mainly on information collected from TV set meters that it installs, and then combines this information with huge databases of the programs that appear on each TV station and cable channel.

To find out who is watching TV and what they are watching, the company gets around 5,000 households to agree to be a part of the representative sample for the national ratings estimates. Nielsen's statistics show that 99 million households have TVs in the United States, so Nielsen's sample is not very large. The key, therefore, is to be sure the sample is representative. Then TVs, homes, programs, and people are measured in a variety of ways.

To find out what people are watching, meters installed in the selected sample of homes track when TV sets are on and what channels they are tuned to. A "black box," which is just a computer and modem, gathers and sends all this information to the company's central computer every night. Then by monitoring what is on TV at any given time, the company is able to keep track of how many people watch which program.

Small boxes, placed near the TV sets of those in the national sample, measure who is watching by giving each member of the household a button to turn on and off to show when he or she begins and ends viewing. This information is also collected each night.

The national TV ratings largely rely on these meters. To ensure reasonably accurate results, the company uses audits and quality checks and regularly compares the ratings it gets from different samples and measurement methods.

Participants in Nielsen's national sample are randomly selected. Every U.S. household with a TV theoretically has a chance to be a part of the sample. The sample is also compared to the general population, and at times Nielsen calls thousands of households to see if their TV sets are on and who is watching.

This research is worth billions of dollars. Advertisers pay to air their commercials on TV programs using rates that are based on Nielsen's data. Programmers also use Nielsen's data to decide which shows to keep and which to cancel. A show that has several million viewers may seem popular to us, but a network may need millions more watching that program to make it a financial success. That's why some shows with a loyal following still get canceled''




Zaphod121 -> RE: Renew/Cancel? (22/4/2011 1:53:49 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Your Funny Uncle

Supernatural? I thought the already added on sixth season was going to be it's last?


Nope, I don't see it going anywhere in the immediate future.




vad3r -> RE: Renew/Cancel? (22/4/2011 1:59:38 PM)

So for those who have read all the shows that I posted, which ones are you most looking forward to?




MI Cruise -> RE: Renew/Cancel? (22/4/2011 2:14:06 PM)

1) Falling skies
2) Charlie's Angels
3) Terra nova
4) Camelot
5) Wonder Woman
6) Alcatraz
7) Luck
8) Borgias
9) Ringer


heres the trailer for the Borgias - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58hmD2sGV7Q




vad3r -> RE: Renew/Cancel? (22/4/2011 2:56:28 PM)

Complete list of most anticipated shows


17th Precinct
Alcatraz -
Borgias - TRAILER
Camelot - TRAILER
Charlie's Angels
Falling Skies - TRAILER
Grimm
Locke & Key
Luck - TRAILER
Once Upon a Time
Persons of Interest
Playboy
Poe
Prime Suspect
REM
Ringer
Terra Nova
The Secret Circle
Wonder Woman


Would appreciate if you could post trailers of the above shows once they become available.
Any other promising new shows for 2011?




Zaphod121 -> RE: Renew/Cancel? (22/4/2011 4:19:52 PM)

The ones that most interest me at the moment:

1. Falling Skies
2. Terra Nova
3. 17th Precinct
4. Alcatraz
5. Locke & Key
6. Luck
7. The Secret Circle




vad3r -> RE: Renew/Cancel? (22/4/2011 6:05:12 PM)

Anyone know if Joss Whedon is going to be making another show soon? Perhaps after The Avengers?





Shifty Bench -> RE: Renew/Cancel? (22/4/2011 6:16:14 PM)

He's currently writing songs for Dr. Horrible 2. That's all I know. 




vad3r -> RE: Renew/Cancel? (22/4/2011 6:40:29 PM)

So Dr. Horrible 2 gets the green light but still a no to Firefly season 2.

[X(]




Shifty Bench -> RE: Renew/Cancel? (22/4/2011 6:47:07 PM)

There was no 'green light' though, Dr. Horrible was a self-financed indy short for the internet [:)]




MI Cruise -> RE: Renew/Cancel? (22/4/2011 6:58:42 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: vad3r

Complete list of most anticipated shows


17th Precinct
Alcatraz -
Borgias - TRAILER
Camelot - TRAILER
Charlie's Angels
Falling Skies - TRAILER
Grimm
Locke & Key
Luck
Once Upon a Time
Persons of Interest
Playboy
Poe
Prime Suspect
REM
Ringer
Terra Nova
The Secret Circle
Wonder Woman


Would appreciate if you could post trailers of the above shows once they become available.
Any other promising new shows for 2011?


Luck HBO promo - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8yOQJ288GQ




vad3r -> RE: Renew/Cancel? (22/4/2011 7:01:34 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Shifty Bench

There was no 'green light' though, Dr. Horrible was a self-financed indy short for the internet [:)]


Well technically no 'green light' but these days Whedon has the backing to make whatever he wants. And I'm sure if he wanted to do Firefly season 2 or a Buffy reboot starring Kristen Bell in the lead role, he would get it.
I have Dr. Horrible on DVD (Felicia Day <3)





vad3r -> RE: Renew/Cancel? (22/4/2011 7:03:01 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: MI Cruise


quote:

ORIGINAL: vad3r

Complete list of most anticipated shows


17th Precinct
Alcatraz -
Borgias - TRAILER
Camelot - TRAILER
Charlie's Angels
Falling Skies - TRAILER
Grimm
Locke & Key
Luck
Once Upon a Time
Persons of Interest
Playboy
Poe
Prime Suspect
REM
Ringer
Terra Nova
The Secret Circle
Wonder Woman


Would appreciate if you could post trailers of the above shows once they become available.
Any other promising new shows for 2011?


Luck HBO promo - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8yOQJ288GQ



Added. It's up to me, you and Shifty to keep this thread alive.




Your Funny Uncle -> RE: Renew/Cancel? (22/4/2011 7:09:00 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Zaphod121


quote:

ORIGINAL: Your Funny Uncle

Supernatural? I thought the already added on sixth season was going to be it's last?


Nope, I don't see it going anywhere in the immediate future.


That's good news as far as I'm concerned then [:)] I've seen up to the end of Season 5 and it's been absolutely top notch....




elab49 -> RE: Renew/Cancel? (22/4/2011 7:16:37 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Your Funny Uncle


quote:

ORIGINAL: Zaphod121


quote:

ORIGINAL: Your Funny Uncle

Supernatural? I thought the already added on sixth season was going to be it's last?


Nope, I don't see it going anywhere in the immediate future.


That's good news as far as I'm concerned then [:)] I've seen up to the end of Season 5 and it's been absolutely top notch....


There would be the problem. [:)]

Capn Black said it did improve, but early season 6 was almost as bad as the early season 1.




MI Cruise -> RE: Renew/Cancel? (22/4/2011 7:46:41 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: vad3r


quote:

ORIGINAL: MI Cruise


quote:

ORIGINAL: vad3r

Complete list of most anticipated shows


17th Precinct
Alcatraz -
Borgias - TRAILER
Camelot - TRAILER
Charlie's Angels
Falling Skies - TRAILER
Grimm
Locke & Key
Luck
Once Upon a Time
Persons of Interest
Playboy
Poe
Prime Suspect
REM
Ringer
Terra Nova
The Secret Circle
Wonder Woman


Would appreciate if you could post trailers of the above shows once they become available.
Any other promising new shows for 2011?


Luck HBO promo - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8yOQJ288GQ



Added. It's up to me, you and Shifty to keep this thread alive.



well the best part is yet to come when the new season starts it'll be time to guess which show will be 1st to go and so forth

this article is pretty good as well trying to explain the cancellation of the short lived Lone Star from last year and why certain shows get cancelled - http://insideblip.com/node/475/tv-looking-glass-did-tv-critics-kill-lone-star.html




Zaphod121 -> RE: Renew/Cancel? (22/4/2011 10:54:44 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: vad3r


quote:

ORIGINAL: Shifty Bench

There was no 'green light' though, Dr. Horrible was a self-financed indy short for the internet [:)]


Well technically no 'green light' but these days Whedon has the backing to make whatever he wants. And I'm sure if he wanted to do Firefly season 2 or a Buffy reboot starring Kristen Bell in the lead role, he would get it.
I have Dr. Horrible on DVD (Felicia Day <3)



Even if he wanted to do Firefly season 2 there's no way could what with Nathan Fillion being on a hit show now.




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