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Fluke Skywalker -> RE: Game over, Gadaffi? (20/10/2011 9:02:51 PM)

I hope things pan out ok in Libya now and it doesn't turn into another Iraq. At least the US Army and their nutty security contractors aren't in the place and there's no sectarian divisions to be exploited either. I was chatting to a guy whose family are from Libya and the general consensus is it's great to see the back of Gaddafi.

It remains to be seen who now comes into power, how they will be dealt with by Western nations (i.e. will they be puppets) and how the Libya oil/ gas industry is carved up by foreign powers. The arab spring on the face of it looks amazing but you know there's a whole bunch of countries jostling behind the scenes to effectively 'guide' these countries in a direction of their own choosing.




Darth Marenghi -> RE: Game over, Gadaffi? (20/10/2011 9:29:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Spaldron

Do you think maybe now we'll find out who really did Lockerbie?


Probably not, to be honest.




Spaldron -> RE: Game over, Gadaffi? (21/10/2011 3:36:29 AM)

Tasteful as ever.....

[image]http://i.imgur.com/rhVza.jpg[/image]




NinjaShortbread212 -> RE: Game over, Gadaffi? (21/10/2011 4:12:31 AM)

I'm glad that bastards dead.




DancingClown -> RE: Game over, Gadaffi? (21/10/2011 7:41:32 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Spaldron

Tasteful as ever.....

[image]http://i.imgur.com/rhVza.jpg[/image]


Nice. Just what people wanna see on their way to work this morning, I'm sure.




Snake-Eyes -> RE: Game over, Gadaffi? (21/10/2011 8:18:00 AM)

[image]http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz303/snake-eyes1975/2011/list.jpg[/image]




Snake-Eyes -> RE: Game over, Gadaffi? (21/10/2011 8:26:25 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DancingClown


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ORIGINAL: Spaldron

Tasteful as ever.....

[image]http://i.imgur.com/rhVza.jpg[/image]


Nice. Just what people wanna see on their way to work this morning, I'm sure.



Tell me about it! Who gives a f**k about Lewis Hamilton's love-life?!




Snake-Eyes -> RE: Game over, Gadaffi? (21/10/2011 9:46:52 AM)

Am I the only one who can see some similarities...?

Edit - pic edited for content. Horror scene, cert >12 I'm afraid.




DancingClown -> RE: Game over, Gadaffi? (21/10/2011 9:49:41 AM)

Naughty Snake-Eyes!!!




UTB -> RE: Game over, Gadaffi? (21/10/2011 9:51:51 AM)

I thought he looked more like Mickey Rourke...




Sinatra -> RE: Game over, Gadaffi? (21/10/2011 10:12:31 AM)

Good luck to the Libyan people now... and well done to Nato. Hopefully this will turn into a real success story.




Giant Green Rabbit -> RE: Game over, Gadaffi? (21/10/2011 3:28:37 PM)

Well done Libya. And apologies too for the near $1 billion worth of arms we sold to Gadaffi between 2005 and 2009. That was a mis-step, a clerical error. We're different now. We care about you.

Click - Arms to Libya from the EU 2005-2009




NinjaShortbread212 -> RE: Game over, Gadaffi? (21/10/2011 5:34:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Snake-Eyes

[image]http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz303/snake-eyes1975/2011/list.jpg[/image]



Full of Win! [sm=happy34.gif]




Emyr Thy King -> RE: Game over, Gadaffi? (21/10/2011 5:46:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Spaldron

Tasteful as ever.....

[image]http://i.imgur.com/rhVza.jpg[/image]


I remember watching some programme about the Falklands War. There was a Royal Navy guy talking about this article by the Sun:

[image]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/58/The_Sun_%28Gotcha%29.png[/image]

He and his colleagues weren't particularly fond of it. Gadaffi should've been brought to trial, not executed but nonetheless. The Libyans can move on now that he's gone.




Invader_Ace -> RE: Game over, Gadaffi? (24/10/2011 12:25:32 PM)

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/international/ecstatic-libyans-still-trying-to-get-story-straight-201110224455/




Fluke Skywalker -> RE: Game over, Gadaffi? (24/10/2011 12:32:29 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Emyr Thy King

[image]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/58/The_Sun_%28Gotcha%29.png[/image]

He and his colleagues weren't particularly fond of it. Gadaffi should've been brought to trial, not executed but nonetheless. The Libyans can move on now that he's gone.



I remember seeing something similar - no one was rejoicing at all because they knew they'd killed a bunch of sailors which is what they were.




Deviation -> RE: Game over, Gadaffi? (24/10/2011 12:34:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Giant Green Rabbit

Well done Libya. And apologies too for the near $1 billion worth of arms we sold to Gadaffi between 2005 and 2009. That was a mis-step, a clerical error. We're different now. We care about you.

Click - Arms to Libya from the EU 2005-2009


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UPDATE, 2 MARCH 2011: The Maltese government claims it accidentally added an extra '0' to its arms figures for 2009 - you can read the report on MaltaToday.com here.

Oh Maltese Nation, you never let me down.




Sinatra -> RE: Game over, Gadaffi? (24/10/2011 1:16:45 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Giant Green Rabbit

Well done Libya. And apologies too for the near $1 billion worth of arms we sold to Gadaffi between 2005 and 2009. That was a mis-step, a clerical error. We're different now. We care about you.

Click - Arms to Libya from the EU 2005-2009



It's a mad mad mad mad world....




jonson -> RE: Game over, Gadaffi? (24/10/2011 4:48:10 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sinatra


quote:

ORIGINAL: Giant Green Rabbit

Well done Libya. And apologies too for the near $1 billion worth of arms we sold to Gadaffi between 2005 and 2009. That was a mis-step, a clerical error. We're different now. We care about you.

Click - Arms to Libya from the EU 2005-2009



It's a mad mad mad mad world....


It's a link to The Guardian website. It's far madder than that [:D]




Fluke Skywalker -> RE: Game over, Gadaffi? (24/10/2011 7:14:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sinatra


quote:

ORIGINAL: Giant Green Rabbit

Well done Libya. And apologies too for the near $1 billion worth of arms we sold to Gadaffi between 2005 and 2009. That was a mis-step, a clerical error. We're different now. We care about you.

Click - Arms to Libya from the EU 2005-2009



It's a mad mad mad mad world....


This is the world we live in - governed by double standards. Most of the dictators on this planet have been propped up and armed by those who profess to protect democracy/ freedom etc. etc.

Let's face it - it's all fucking bullshit!!!! [:D]




Spaldron -> RE: Game over, Gadaffi? (4/2/2012 5:31:12 PM)

Anyone following the situation in Syria? Russia and China just blocked the UN resolution condemning the violence. What the fuck are these idiots thinking?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-16890107




Fluke Skywalker -> RE: Game over, Gadaffi? (4/2/2012 6:20:32 PM)

They are backing their allies just like the US backs Israel regardless of how they carry on. Apparently Russia is losing defence contracts after the toppling of various middle eastern regimes and that's why they are making a stand. I think for China and Russia after seeing Libya get knocked off they want to do everything they can to keep 'their'dictators in power for their own ends just like we do.

Syria is quite interesting though - a lot of what we hear over here is the standard Assad bad/ rebels good reporting but there seems to be a disturbing level of violence committed by opposition groups. These groups are of course funded by Western powers and it seems to me like the country is being deliberately destabilised just like Libya was.

This is always worth watching when looking at societies tearing themselves apart:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3ioJGMCr-Y





Spaldron -> RE: Game over, Gadaffi? (4/2/2012 7:10:38 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Fluke Skywalker

They are backing their allies just like the US backs Israel regardless of how they carry on. Apparently Russia is losing defence contracts after the toppling of various middle eastern regimes and that's why they are making a stand. I think for China and Russia after seeing Libya get knocked off they want to do everything they can to keep 'their'dictators in power for their own ends just like we do.


Good point but it still doesn't excuse the backing of a ruthless regime slaughtering its own protesters. As critical as I am of them at least Israel doesn't murder its own, just Gazans and Palestinians. And the problem is that Israel is stronger with Assad in power keeping his own people oppressed.

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Syria is quite interesting though - a lot of what we hear over here is the standard Assad bad/ rebels good reporting but there seems to be a disturbing level of violence committed by opposition groups. These groups are of course funded by Western powers and it seems to me like the country is being deliberately destabilised just like Libya was.

Depends on who is reporting these "facts" though. Assad and his regime are of course blaming western interference but from the ground it looks more like a genuine revolution like we saw in Libya. If the people were puppets of the west it wouldn't take them long to figure it out and crucially I don't think they would be risking their lives fighting the Syrian army if that were the case.






Deviation -> RE: Game over, Gadaffi? (4/2/2012 7:56:43 PM)

Doesn't Russia also have a naval base in Syria? That's enough to keep it friends with Bashar.




Ghidorah -> RE: Game over, Gadaffi? (6/2/2012 8:31:19 AM)

The US and Israel are closely working together to combat Iran nuclear threat.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-16900705

Syria is on Israel boarder and could counterstrike Israel if Iran come under attack. However in the recent weeks things has change due to the Syrain Crisis. As tensions increased and military resources are strained, Syria isn't in a good shape to come to Iran's aid. We also know thanks to wikileaks several Arabs countries supporting military strikes on Iran.




Fluke Skywalker -> RE: Game over, Gadaffi? (6/2/2012 11:43:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Spaldron


quote:

ORIGINAL: Fluke Skywalker

They are backing their allies just like the US backs Israel regardless of how they carry on. Apparently Russia is losing defence contracts after the toppling of various middle eastern regimes and that's why they are making a stand. I think for China and Russia after seeing Libya get knocked off they want to do everything they can to keep 'their'dictators in power for their own ends just like we do.


Good point but it still doesn't excuse the backing of a ruthless regime slaughtering its own protesters. As critical as I am of them at least Israel doesn't murder its own, just Gazans and Palestinians. And the problem is that Israel is stronger with Assad in power keeping his own people oppressed.

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Syria is quite interesting though - a lot of what we hear over here is the standard Assad bad/ rebels good reporting but there seems to be a disturbing level of violence committed by opposition groups. These groups are of course funded by Western powers and it seems to me like the country is being deliberately destabilised just like Libya was.

Depends on who is reporting these "facts" though. Assad and his regime are of course blaming western interference but from the ground it looks more like a genuine revolution like we saw in Libya. If the people were puppets of the west it wouldn't take them long to figure it out and crucially I don't think they would be risking their lives fighting the Syrian army if that were the case.





The Libyan rebels were backed by Western security services, the SAS were on the ground as well.

This is interesting, according to this guy death squads (classic CIA) are operating in Syria to destabilise the country - starts at 1.00:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSRPDLOhLPs

I read another article by this chap and he says in Egypt  Mubarak was removed by the CIA because he did not support an attack on Iran.

On the face of it this looks like bullshit however if you look at Egypt today the army and security forces are still in charge - nothing has actually changed.

In terms of the coming war with Iran the arabs who support it are the Western stooges all of which fear for their regimes and want to keep the US onside lest they get knocked off as well.





Woger -> RE: Egypt Protests (6/2/2012 1:41:29 PM)

The word sttoge should be replaced with target!




Ghidorah -> RE: Egypt Protests (6/2/2012 8:58:50 PM)

 The video clips coming out of Homs is constantly reminds me of the 9/11 attacks in New York. The fear and panic is there yet unlike the New Yorkers there is no one coming to defend them. It does feel like they are all going to be killed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drBpe8QiuAM

The uploader has a lot more material showing glimpses of the suffering.




Skiba -> RE: Egypt Protests (7/2/2012 8:09:00 AM)

Russia and China would never back this...for Putin, it too closely echos what's going on in Russia. Whilst China doesn't appear to be as oppressive as Syria, they still probably don't want their citizens getting any ideas




Timon -> RE: Syria Protests (5/3/2012 2:08:52 PM)

So the Red Cross still isn't being let into Homs, the BBC is reporting men and children being executed by Syrian forces and the international community is doing bugger all because China and Russia (Syria's biggest arms sellers) veteoed any action.

So is Syria the new Rwanda?

Are we doing nothing because we REALLY think Iran would say something at this point? Even the Arab Council are up in arms.




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