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siegfried -> Siegfried's Top 20 Favourite Films Per Decade (28/12/2009 3:34:24 AM)

SILENT ERA


20. The Sheik - Dir: George Melford
(Rudolph Valentino, Agnes Ayres, Adolph Menjou)

19. Phantom Of The Opera - Dir: Rupert Julian
(Lon Chaney, Mary Philbin, Norman Kerry, Gibson Gowland)

18. The Eagle - Dir: Clarence Brown
(Rudolph Valentino, Vilma Banky, Louise Dresser, Albert Conti)

17. Robin Hood - Dir: Allan Dwan
(Douglas Fairbanks, Wallace Beery, Sam deGrasse, Enid Bennett)

16. The Freshman - Sam Taylor, Fred Newmeyer
(Harold Lloyd, Jobyna Ralston, Brooks Benedict, James Anderson)

15. Broken Blossoms - D.W. Griffith
(Lillian Gish, Richard Barthelmess, Donald Crisp)

14. Four Horsemen Of The Apocalypse - Dir: Rex Ingram
(Rudolph Valentino, Alice Terry, Alan Hale, Jean Hersholt)

13. Pandora's Box - Dir: G.W. Pabst
(Louise Brooks, Fritz Kortner, Franz Lederer, Carl Goetz)

12. Die Nibelungen - Dir: Fritz Lang
(Paul Richter, Margarete Schon, Theodor Loos, Hanna Ralph)

11. Steamboat Bill Jr. - Dir: Charles F. Riesner
(Buster Keaton, Ernest Torrance, Marion Byron, Tom Lewis)

10. The Cat And The Canary - Paul Leni
(Laura LaPlante, Tully Marshall, Flora Finch, Creighton Hale)

9. Intolerance - Dir: D.W. Griffith
(Lillian Gish, Robert Harron, Mae Marsh, Constance Talmadge)

8. Sherlock Jr. - Dir: Buster Keaton
(Buster Keaton, Kathryn McGuire, Ward Crane)

7. The Black Pirate - Dir: Albert Parker
(Douglas Fairbanks, Billie Dove, Anders Randolph, Donald Crisp)

6. A Cottage On Dartmoor - Dir: Anthony Asquith
(Norah Baring, Uno Henning, Hani Schlettow)

5. Safety Last - Dir: Fred Newmeyer, Sam Taylor
(Harold Lloyd, Mildred Davis, Bill Strothers, Noah Young)

4. Dr Mabuse Der Spieler - Dir: Fritz Lang
(Rudolf Klein-Rogge, Gertrude Welker, Alfred Abel, Lil Dagover)

3. Spione - Dir: Fritz Lang
(Rudolf Klein-Rogge, Gerda Maurus, Willy Fritsch, Fritz Rasp)

2. The General - Dir: Buster Keaton, Clyde Bruckman
(Buster Keaton, Marion Mack, Glen Cavender, Jim Farley)

1. Sunrise - F.W. Murnau
(Janet Gaynor, George O'Brien, Margaret Livingston)




Squidward Hark Bugle -> RE: Siegfried's Top 20 Favourite Films Per Decade (28/12/2009 4:18:46 AM)

I haven't seen any of those, except parts of Intolerance. From what I have seen it is truly epic. The only reason I didn't watch it all was a lack of patience. A 3-hour silent film is not easy. [;)]




Pigeon Army -> RE: Siegfried's Top 20 Favourite Films Per Decade (28/12/2009 4:37:32 AM)

I've not seen any of those either. Fuck, I'm good. [:D]




siegfried -> RE: Siegfried's Top 20 Favourite Films Per Decade (28/12/2009 6:49:32 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Squidward Hark Bugle

I haven't seen any of those, except parts of Intolerance. From what I have seen it is truly epic. The only reason I didn't watch it all was a lack of patience. A 3-hour silent film is not easy. [;)]

And Intolerance isn't the longest film in the list. Dr Mabuse and Die Nibelungen are each around five hours.
I'd suggest for anyone with little experience of silent films that a very good place to start would be with some of the great comedies of Buster Keaton and Harold Lloyd. You'll find that they still hold up very well today. The two Douglas Fairbanks films in the list are both fun swashbucklers, as is The Eagle with Valentino, in which he plays a sort of Russian Robin Hood in the time of Catherine The Great.
The Cat and The Canary is an excellent comedy / horror with some genuine thrills and a lot more laughs.
I hope you'll give some of the films a try.




Pigeon Army -> RE: Siegfried's Top 20 Favourite Films Per Decade (28/12/2009 7:10:52 AM)

I love The General, so I've already started. [:)]

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ORIGINAL: siegfried

The Cat and The Canary is an excellent comedy / horror with some genuine thrills and a lot more laughs.


Did they do a screening of this film for the NZIFF in Auckland? Did you catch it then? I sadly missed it down in Wellington - money and such. I imagine it would've looked great.




Gimli The Dwarf -> RE: Siegfried's Top 20 Favourite Films Per Decade (28/12/2009 7:22:07 AM)

I've seen a grand total of 5 - Steamboat Bill Jr, Sherlock Jr, A Cottage On Dartmoor, The General And Sunrise- and I have The Eagle, The Freshman and Safety Last to see.

Is there a minimum time length for these, Sigfried? I was hoping to see one or two Laurel and Hardy shorts films.





Squidward Hark Bugle -> RE: Siegfried's Top 20 Favourite Films Per Decade (28/12/2009 8:25:56 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Pigeon Army

I've not seen any of those either. Fuck, I'm good. [:D]


quote:

ORIGINAL: Pigeon Army

I love The General, so I've already started.



[8|]

Also: a note to Ringers. There's a pleasant surprise awaiting you in my 2000s Top 20 Countdown. [:D]




rawlinson -> RE: Siegfried's Top 20 Favourite Films Per Decade (28/12/2009 8:38:08 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Squidward Hark Bugle

quote:

ORIGINAL: Pigeon Army

I've not seen any of those either. Fuck, I'm good. [:D]


quote:

ORIGINAL: Pigeon Army

I love The General, so I've already started.



[8|]




[:D][:D][:D] Squid just owned PA.

Nice list, btw, Siegfried, always good to see Paul Leni get some love.




Pigeon Army -> RE: Siegfried's Top 20 Favourite Films Per Decade (28/12/2009 9:14:42 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Squidward Hark Bugle

quote:

ORIGINAL: Pigeon Army

I've not seen any of those either. Fuck, I'm good. [:D]


quote:

ORIGINAL: Pigeon Army

I love The General, so I've already started.



[8|]



I didn't see The General in the list the first time. Or the second time. My fail. [:D]




Gimli The Dwarf -> RE: Siegfried's Top 20 Favourite Films Per Decade (28/12/2009 9:17:58 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Squidward Hark Bugle


Also: a note to Ringers. There's a pleasant surprise awaiting you in my 2000s Top 20 Countdown. [:D]



The surprse being that it's 14 places too low? [:D]




Piles -> RE: Siegfried's Top 20 Favourite Films Per Decade (28/12/2009 10:39:44 AM)

I've seen ten. This is why I'm hot...

And "Dr Mabuse, the Gambler" is in my top 5 films of all time; a great film, truly epic, inventive, and influential. I'm guessing that - from "Intolerance"'s inclusion - it's a list of everything leading up to 1929? No "Les Vampires"? It's a real pre-cursor to Lang's film and one of the best I've seen for the first time this year.

Good list overall. Two Valentino films is nice to see [:D] *thumbs up*




siegfried -> RE: Siegfried's Top 20 Favourite Films Per Decade (28/12/2009 6:28:50 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Piles

I've seen ten. This is why I'm hot...

And "Dr Mabuse, the Gambler" is in my top 5 films of all time; a great film, truly epic, inventive, and influential. I'm guessing that - from "Intolerance"'s inclusion - it's a list of everything leading up to 1929? No "Les Vampires"? It's a real pre-cursor to Lang's film and one of the best I've seen for the first time this year.

Good list overall. Two Valentino films is nice to see [:D] *thumbs up*


Sadly, there are still some big gaps in my silent film experience. Les Vampires is one I'm longing to catch up with.

Gimli - I decided to keep to feature length films when making up the list, which is why Stan and Ollie's shorts missed out, even though like you I have considerable love for them. That being said, I realise that Sherlock Jr is a mere 45 minutes, but it's absolutely sublime, so I had to include it.




elab49 -> RE: Siegfried's Top 20 Favourite Films Per Decade (28/12/2009 6:44:06 PM)

I've not seen The Eagle for sure - don't really get Valentino - or Black Pirate I don't think. LOve the love for Cottage on Dartmoor, and also Spione of which I'm excessively fond. I'll be rewatching the Mabuses soon as I got the rather nice Masters of Cinema set for my Xmas. I've got lots I want to look out from the early 20s after seeing that DeMille doc the other day - the big beasts aside, of which I'm not that fond, he did seem to be doing very interesting looking smaller stuff at the same time. No idea if it is findable though.

My most looking forward to release of this year, probably, are films you've not got - have you seen Von Sternberg's Docks of New York or Underworld (hoping with the latter it'll be the other release).




Piles -> RE: Siegfried's Top 20 Favourite Films Per Decade (28/12/2009 6:52:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: elab49

I've not seen The Eagle for sure - don't really get Valentino - or Black Pirate I don't think. LOve the love for Cottage on Dartmoor, and also Spione of which I'm excessively fond. I'll be rewatching the Mabuses soon as I got the rather nice Masters of Cinema set for my Xmas. I've got lots I want to look out from the early 20s after seeing that DeMille doc the other day - the big beasts aside, of which I'm not that fond, he did seem to be doing very interesting looking smaller stuff at the same time. No idea if it is findable though.

My most looking forward to release of this year, probably, are films you've not got - have you seen Von Sternberg's Docks of New York or Underworld (hoping with the latter it'll be the other release).


I picked up a three film box set for a pound (printing error on one of the the CDs ftw!) on amazon and those three films are superb. "The Eagle"is my favourite of those and the couple others that I've seen, and it doesn't revolve quite so much around Valentino as the others.




siegfried -> RE: Siegfried's Top 20 Favourite Films Per Decade (28/12/2009 7:28:31 PM)

The 1930's


20. Stagecoach - Dir: John Ford
(Claire Trevor, John Wayne, Andy Devine, John Carradine, Thomas Mitchell)

19. Mr Deeds Goes To Town - Dir: Frank Capra
(Gary Cooper, Jean Arthur, Lionel Stander, Walter Catlett)

18. The Blue Angel - Dir: Josef Von Sternberg
(Emil Jannings, Marlene Dietrich)

17. All Quiet On The Western Front - Dir: Lewis Milestone
( Lew Ayres, Louis Wolheim, John Wray, Ben Alexander)

16. She Done Him Wrong - Dir: Lowell Sherman
(Mae West, Cary Grant, Owen Moore, Gilbert Roland)

15. Shanghai Express - Dir: Josef Von Sternberg
(Marlene Dietrich, Clive Brook, Anna May Wong, Warner Oland)

14. Way Out West - Dir: James Horne
(Stan Laurel, Oliver Hardy, James Finlayson, Rosina Lawrence)

13. My Man Godfrey - Dir: Gregory LaCava
(William Powell, Carole Lombard, Alice Brady, Eugene Pallette)

12. Destry Rides Again - Dir: George Marshall
(James Stewart, Marlene Dietrich, Mischa Auer, Charles Winninger)

11. Ninotchka - Dir: Ernst Lubitsch
(Greta Garbo, Melvyn Douglas, Ina Claire, Sig Ruman, Felix Bressart)

10. Love Me Tonight - Dir: Rouben Mamoulian
(Maurice Chevalier, Jeanette MacDonald, Charles Ruggles, Myrna Loy)

9. Duck Soup - Dir: Leo McCarey
(Marx Brothers, Margaret Dumont, Raquel Torres, Louis Calhern)

8. La Grande Illusion - Dir: Jean Renoir
(Jean Gabin, Dita Parlo, Pierre Fresnay, Erich Von Stroheim)

7. Bringing Up Baby - Dir: Howard Hawks
(Katharine Hepburn, Cary Grant, Charles Ruggles, Bary Fitzgerald)

6. M - Fritz Lang
(Peter Lorre, Ellen Widmann, Otto Weinicke)

5. Adventures Of Robin Hood - Dir: Michael Curtiz / William Keighley
(Errol Flynn, Olivia DeHavilland, Basil Rathbone, Claude Rains)

4. Pepe Le Moko - Dir: Julien Duvivier
(Jean Gabin, Mireille Balin, Gabriel Gabrio, Lucas Gridoux)

3. Olympia - Dir: Leni Riefenstahl

2. Twentieth Century - Dir: Howard Hawks
(John Barrymore, Carole Lombard, Walter Connolly, Roscoe Karns)

1. The Rules Of The Game - Dir: Jean Renoir
(Nora Gregor, Paulette Dubost, Marcel Dalio, Jean Renoir)




FritzlFan -> RE: Siegfried's Top 20 Favourite Films Per Decade (28/12/2009 7:32:18 PM)

Interesting lists so far (though I haven't seen very many of either).

I'm surprised by two omissions - Metropolis and L'Atalante. They both seem to find in to your tastes.




elab49 -> RE: Siegfried's Top 20 Favourite Films Per Decade (28/12/2009 7:40:59 PM)

I put this together for the Cult list - 2 matches, 2 just fell off mine. And you have one of my most loathed films at the top! [:D]

1. Invisible Man (Whale, 1933)
2. Wooden Crosses (Bernard, 1932)
3. Music Box (Parrott, 1932)
4. M (Lang, 1931)
5. The Lady Vanishes (Hitchcock, 1938)
6. Humanity & Paper Balloons (Yamanaka, 1937)
7. People on Sunday (Siodmak(s), Ulmer, Zinneman, 1930)
8. Only Angels Have Wings (Hawks, 1939)
9. Roaring Twenties (Walsh, 1939)
10. Blessed Event (Del Ruth, 1932)
11. Le Jour se Leve (Carne, 1939)
12. After the Thin Man (Van Dyke, 1936)
13. Easy Living (Leisen, 1937)
14. Things to Come Menzies, 1936)
15. La Grand Illusion (Renoir, 1936)
16. Pygmalion (Asquith, 1938)
17. A Nous La Liberte (Clair, 1931)
18. City Streets (Mamoulian, 1931)
19. Hound of the Baskervilles (Lanfield, 1939)
20. This Man is News (MacDonald, 1938)
 
I decided on one per director which dropped Testament of Dr Mabuse, 39 Steps, Love Me Tonight eg. Pepe le Moko, Alexander Nevsky, etc lost out on the final cuts.




TRM -> RE: Siegfried's Top 20 Favourite Films Per Decade (29/12/2009 12:14:43 AM)

From your silent list:
I have seen the freshman, but dont remember any of it. I do know that my rating of it suggested I was a little unimpressed.
Steamboat Bill jr I think is ok (it has the most amazing wind scene) but other than that it drags a little bit.
Sherlock jr is quite rightly considered among Keaton's best.
Safety last I need to rewatch, but I remember liking it a lot.
Spione showed flashes of brilliance, but I think it desperately needed about an hour cut.
The general possibly is still my favourite silent film. There is just so many great stunts thrown in there that it is difficult not to be amazed.
Sunrise would comfortably make my top 20 (not sure where though).

So a rather poor 7 seen from me [>:] Some good choices though.

30's list:
Mr Deeds goes to town - One of Capra's finest. How come Mr Smith goes to Washington isnt on the list though?
All quiet on the western front - I think its good, but not quite the masterpiece others talk it up as.
Way out west - I prefer their short films (from what I have seen) but im not going to complain about this being on the list.
Destry rides again - Sometimes it felt like it wasnt getting the balance between its different elements quite right. Stewart is always great to watch though.
Ninotchka - Another I think is good, but dont really get the massive amount of hype for.
Duck soup - I havent been that impressed by the other Marx brothers stuff I have seen, but this is great.
Bringing up baby - Just a brilliant match up between the leads. Great pick.
M - Would easily make my top 5 of the 30's.
The adventures of Robin Hood - Just felt a bit bored by this one.
The rules of the game - And not a fan of this.

So I prefer your silent list, but some nice picks on both.




Professor Moriarty -> RE: Siegfried's Top 20 Favourite Films Per Decade (29/12/2009 12:26:42 AM)

What a great Christmas present, a Siegfried list-opoly.

Only seen 8 of the silent list. Cat and the Canary was a bit lost on me I have to admit. If you like Spione I recommend The Penalty if you've not seen it. And please try to get to see Passion of Joan of Arc if you've not seen it. Top list though.

30s list is wonderful, but no Modern Times or City Lights [&:]




siegfried -> RE: Siegfried's Top 20 Favourite Films Per Decade (29/12/2009 12:43:43 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Professor Moriarty

What a great Christmas present, a Siegfried list-opoly.

Only seen 8 of the silent list. Cat and the Canary was a bit lost on me I have to admit. If you like Spione I recommend The Penalty if you've not seen it. And please try to get to see Passion of Joan of Arc if you've not seen it. Top list though.

30s list is wonderful, but no Modern Times or City Lights [&:]

Thanks for your comments, Prof.
I have seen The Penalty. Chaney was as always great in it.
The Passion Of Joan Of Arc is one I have yet to see. I notice it has just become available here, so I'll put it on my wish list.
I'm afraid as far as Chaplin is concerned, I've never been able to comprehend why people rave over his films so much. The only one which came close to making the list was The Gold Rush. To me he comes a poor third behind Keaton and Lloyd.
At present I'm putting the finishing touches to my 1980's list, and will probably get around to posting the 1940's list tomorrow.




Gimli The Dwarf -> RE: Siegfried's Top 20 Favourite Films Per Decade (29/12/2009 1:16:50 AM)

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14. Way Out West - Dir: James Horne
(Stan Laurel, Oliver Hardy, James Finlayson, Rosina Lawrence)

7. Bringing Up Baby - Dir: Howard Hawks
(Katharine Hepburn, Cary Grant, Charles Ruggles, Bary Fitzgerald)

12. Destry Rides Again - Dir: George Marshall
(James Stewart, Marlene Dietrich, Mischa Auer, Charles Winninger)

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11. Ninotchka - Dir: Ernst Lubitsch
(Greta Garbo, Melvyn Douglas, Ina Claire, Sig Ruman, Felix Bressart)

6. M - Fritz Lang
(Peter Lorre, Ellen Widmann, Otto Weinicke)

5. Adventures Of Robin Hood - Dir: Michael Curtiz / William Keighley
(Errol Flynn, Olivia DeHavilland, Basil Rathbone, Claude Rains)

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9. Duck Soup - Dir: Leo McCarey
(Marx Brothers, Margaret Dumont, Raquel Torres, Louis Calhern)

20. Stagecoach - Dir: John Ford
(Claire Trevor, John Wayne, Andy Devine, John Carradine, Thomas Mitchell)




siegfried -> RE: Siegfried's Top 20 Favourite Films Per Decade - The 1940's (29/12/2009 7:08:55 PM)

The 1940's


20. The Killers - Dir: Robert Siodmak
(Burt Lancaster, Ava Gardner, Edmond O'Brien, Albert Dekker)

19. The Philadelphia Story - Dir: George Cukor
(Katharine Hepburn, Cary Grant, James Stewart, Ruth Hussey)

18. Beauty And The Beast - Dir: Jean Cocteau
(Jean Marais, Josette Day, Mila Parely, Michel Auclair)

17. Kind Hearts And Coronets - Dir: Robert Hamer
(Dennis Price, Alec Guinness, Joan Greenwood, Valerie Hobson)

16. Bicycle Thieves - Dir: Vittorio DeSica
(Lamberto Maggiorani, Enzo Staiola)

15. Notorious - Dir: Alfred Hitchcock
(Ingrid Bergman, Cary Grant, Claude Rains, Louis Calhern)

14. The Maltese Falcon - Dir: John Huston
(Humphrey Bogart, Mary Astor, Sidney Greenstreet, Peter Lorre)

13. The Lady Eve - Dir: Preston Sturges
(Barbara Stanwyck, Henry Fonda, Charles Coburn, Eugene Pallette)

12. Ossessione - Dir: Luchino Visconti
(Clara Calamai, Massimo Girotti, Ellio Marcuzzo)

11. The Life And Death Of Colonel Blimp - Michael Powell / Emeric Pressburger
(Roger Livesey, Deborah Kerr, Roland Culver)

10. Laura - Dir: Otto Preminger
(Gene tierney, Dana Andrews, Clifton Webb, Vincent Price, Judith Anderson)

9. Black Narcissus - Dir: Michael Powell / Emeric Pressburger
(Deborah Kerr, Kathleen Byron, David Farrar, Sabu, Jean Simmons)

8. The Third Man - Dir: Carol Reed
(Joseph Cotten, Trevor Howard, Alida Valli, Orson Welles)

7. To Be Or Not To Be - Dir: Ernst Lubitsch
(Jack Benny, Carole Lombard, Robert Stack, Felix Bressart, Sig Ruman)

6. Casablanca - Dir: Michael Curtiz
(Humphrey Bogart, Ingrid Bergman, Claude Rains, Paul Henried, Conrad Veidt)

5. Meet Me In St Louis - Dir: Vincente Minnelli
(Judy Garland, Margaret O'Brien, Mary Astor, Leon Ames, Tom Drake)

4. Rebecca - Dir: Alfred Hitchcock
(Laurence Olivier, Joan Fontaine, Judith Anderson, George Sanders)

3. Le Corbeau - Dir: Henri-Georges Clouzot
(Pierre Fresnay, Ginette Leclerc, Noel Roquevert, Louis Seigner)

2. Double Indemnity - Dir: Billy Wilder
(Fred MacMurray, Barbara Stanwyck, Edward G. Robinson)

1. Les Enfants Du Paradis - Dir: Marcel Carne
(Arletty, Jean-Louis Barrault, Pierre Brasseur, Maria Casares, Pierre Renoir)




Squidward Hark Bugle -> RE: Siegfried's Top 20 Favourite Films Per Decade - The 1940's (29/12/2009 8:04:26 PM)

Where would Nosferatu and The Birth Of A Nation have ranked in your silent era list? I assume of course that you've seen them, given your extensive knowledge and the presence of another film from each director in the list. [:)]

From the 1930s' list I've only seen All Quiet On The Western Front and M. All Quiet On The Western Front is a stone cold classic. One of the greatest films ever made, and still, in my opinion, the greatest anti-war film ever made. It holds its place firmly in my Top 10 of all time. M was one that disappointed me ever so slightly, only because it's considered a masterpiece, and I didn't find that exactly. It was very good, but didn't leave a lasting impression on me.

No love for The Wizard Of Oz, Gone With The Wind, 42nd Street, King Kong, The Public Enemy, Snow White And The Seven Dwarfs or The Invisible Man? Or did they just miss out?

From the 1940s' list I've only seen Casablanca, Meet Me In St. Louis and Double Indemnity. Double Indemnity is my clear favourite of the lot. Film noir I find really seductive, and this is one that looms large among them. Meet Me In St. Louis was such a joyous experience for me, and on the big screen, that I can't help but completely adore it. Casablanca had an effect similar to M. If only it hadn't been so widely praised, I might have loved it too, but as it is I was let down.

Any soft spots for Pinocchio, Fantasia, Dumbo, Bambi, Citizen Kane or Now, Voyager?

Ratings of the ones I've seen, 'coz that's what I do:

All Quiet On The Wester Front [image]http://empireonline.com/images/stars/small_5.gif[/image]
M [image]http://empireonline.com/images/stars/small_4.gif[/image]
Casablanca [image]http://empireonline.com/images/stars/small_4.gif[/image]
Meet Me In St. Louis [image]http://empireonline.com/images/stars/small_5.gif[/image]
Double Indemnity [image]http://empireonline.com/images/stars/small_5.gif[/image]




siegfried -> RE: Siegfried's Top 20 Favourite Films Per Decade - The 1940's (29/12/2009 9:40:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Squidward Hark Bugle

Where would Nosferatu and The Birth Of A Nation have ranked in your silent era list? I assume of course that you've seen them, given your extensive knowledge and the presence of another film from each director in the list. [:)]

From the 1930s' list I've only seen All Quiet On The Western Front and M. All Quiet On The Western Front is a stone cold classic. One of the greatest films ever made, and still, in my opinion, the greatest anti-war film ever made. It holds its place firmly in my Top 10 of all time. M was one that disappointed me ever so slightly, only because it's considered a masterpiece, and I didn't find that exactly. It was very good, but didn't leave a lasting impression on me.

No love for The Wizard Of Oz, Gone With The Wind, 42nd Street, King Kong, The Public Enemy, Snow White And The Seven Dwarfs or The Invisible Man? Or did they just miss out?

From the 1940s' list I've only seen Casablanca, Meet Me In St. Louis and Double Indemnity. Double Indemnity is my clear favourite of the lot. Film noir I find really seductive, and this is one that looms large among them. Meet Me In St. Louis was such a joyous experience for me, and on the big screen, that I can't help but completely adore it. Casablanca had an effect similar to M. If only it hadn't been so widely praised, I might have loved it too, but as it is I was let down.

Any soft spots for Pinocchio, Fantasia, Dumbo, Bambi, Citizen Kane or Now, Voyager?

Ratings of the ones I've seen, 'coz that's what I do:

All Quiet On The Wester Front [image]http://empireonline.com/images/stars/small_5.gif[/image]
M [image]http://empireonline.com/images/stars/small_4.gif[/image]
Casablanca [image]http://empireonline.com/images/stars/small_4.gif[/image]
Meet Me In St. Louis [image]http://empireonline.com/images/stars/small_5.gif[/image]
Double Indemnity [image]http://empireonline.com/images/stars/small_5.gif[/image]

When you're setting yourself the task of compiling a Top 20 list, the most difficult job is deciding what's going to be left out.
The initial lists each contained some 40 - 50 films, many of them ones that you've mentioned, and for which I have a considerable love.
Both Nosferatu and Birth Of A Nation were in my initial list of silents, along with the likes of Way Down East, Orphans Of The Storm, Greed, The Last Laugh, Waxworks and The Man Who Laughs. I spent a lot of time agonising over what should stay and what should go.
Of the 30's films that you mentioned, of course I knew that All Quiet On The Western Front would meet with your approval. Sorry you don't share my enthusiasm for M. That made the list as much for Peter Lorre's absolutely stunning performance as for anything alse. I'd class that as one of the greatest, most iconic performances in the history of cinema.
As for the others, the only one which doesn't really rate among my favourites is The Wizard Of Oz.
Like you, I have considerable love for Meet Me In St Louis - a joyous experience sums it up beautifully.
And Film Noir is one of my favourite genres. I'm considering compiling a Top 50 Film Noir list after I've finished with the current thread.
Thanks for your comments, and I hope that you'll be prompted to try some of the other films in the lists that you haven't seen yet.

P.S. As you're also a lover of Film Noir, I must direct your attention to The Killers, Ossessione ( which is based on The Postman Always Rings Twice, and IMO superior to both American versions), Laura and Le Corbeau.




Piles -> RE: Siegfried's Top 20 Favourite Films Per Decade - The 1940's (29/12/2009 9:42:52 PM)

Your number 8 of the 40s makes you awesome.

I think "Way Down East" is the best of the Griffith films I've seen.




Pigeon Army -> RE: Siegfried's Top 20 Favourite Films Per Decade - The 1940's (29/12/2009 11:33:29 PM)


19. The Philadelphia Story - Hilarious film. Place well-deserved.

16. Bicycle Thieves - Absolutely devastating, emotionally draining film. Amazing watch.

14. The Maltese Falcon - Very good film, but Mary Astor's character isn't a very convincing femme fatale, and the whole thing pales in comparison to The Big Sleep and Laura.

10. Laura - YES! My favourite film from the 1940s. An impeccable mystery, an impeccable cast, impeccable direction - everything about it is top-notch.

8. The Third Man - Excellent film, with Cotten and Welles putting in brilliant performances.

7. To Be Or Not To Be - It may have hurt that I saw the dreadful Mel Brooks remake first, but this just didn't tickle my funny bone as much as it should have.

6. Casablanca - A true classic. I'd have been surprised if it weren't here.

2. Double Indemnity - Again, not my favourite noir of the period, but brilliant film nonetheless. Fred MacMurray, Edward G. Robinson and Barbara Stanwyck are all great value.






chris_scott01 -> RE: Siegfried's Top 20 Favourite Films Per Decade - The 1940's (30/12/2009 12:24:08 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Piles
I think "Way Down East" is the best of the Griffith films I've seen.


Seconded.  Maybe not the most impressive, but I think it was the most affecting from the one's I've seen.  Broken Blossoms was just as good though.




Miles Messervy 007 -> RE: Siegfried's Top 20 Favourite Films Per Decade - The 1940's (30/12/2009 1:30:10 AM)

Seen 7 40s films from your list, 2 30s, and 1 20s.
Sherlock Jr. is just not funny enough for me. I appreciate how inventive it is for its time, but it's a 7, which for me is average.
Duck Soup is much funnier, though slightly suffers from the characters knowing how funny they are (particularly Firefly, of course). Most of my favourite comedy is dead-pan. I still love what it does, and it's short so I certainly wouldn't say no to a re-watch (and of course need to see more of their stuff). 9
M is superb and doesn't feel dated, except for some of the theatricality of the supporting actors in the courtroom scene, which brings it down to a 9 as well.
Bicycle Thieves is a fine film, but thinking about it I fail to recover the 9 I gave it upon first watching it. Yes, it's truthful, but other than that I don't get the hype. Won't rate to avoid what happened to me and High Noon (which went from a 9 to a 5 to a 7 without a re-watch).
Notorious is great though I'm not a fan of Hitch's abrupt endings. 9
The Maltese Falcon may be the movie I enjoyed most from the decade. 10
Black Narcissus is a bore, no matter how well acted or how nicely shot it is. 6
The Third Man deserves a re-watch, as I watched it before I even started my thread (ie before I became a serious film fan) but it's quite excellent even if it's not very 'deep' and quite slow.
Casablanca is indeed superb, a rare classic which actually deserves its status. 10
Double Indemnity is also pitch-perfect. 10

Looking forward to what you have in store [:)]




siegfried -> RE: Siegfried's Top 20 Favourite Films Per Decade - The 1940's (30/12/2009 6:47:20 PM)

The 1950's


20. The Lavender Hill Mob - Dir: Charles Crichton
(Alec Guinness, Stanley Holloway, Sidney James, Alfie Bass)

19. The Golden Coach - Dir: Jean Renoir
(Anna Magnani, Oduardo Spadaro, Nada Fiorelli, Duncan Lamont)

18. Bad Day At Black Rock - Dir: John Sturges
(Spencer Tracy, Robert Ryan, Anne Francis, Dean Jagger, Walter Brennan)

17. Ballad Of A Soldier - Dir: Gregori Chukrai
(Vladimir Ivashov, Zhanna Prokhorenko, Antonina Maximova)

16. M. Hulot's Holiday - Dir: Jacques Tati
(Jacques Tati, Nathalie Pascaud)

15. Singin' In The Rain - Dir: Stanley Donen / Gene Kelly
(Gene Kelly, Donald O'Connor, Debbie Reynolds, Jean Hagen)

14. All About Eve - Dir: Joseph Mankiewicz
(Bette Davis, Anne Baxter, George Sanders, Celeste Holm, Thelma Ritter)

13. Strangers On A Train - Dir: Alfred Hitchcock
(Farley Granger, Robert Walker, Ruth Roman, Patricia Hitchcock)

12. Madame De.... - Dir: Max Ophuls
(Charles Boyer, Danielle Darrieux, Vittorio DeSica)

11. The Wages Of Fear - Dir: Henri-Georges Clouzot
(Yves Montand, Charles Vanel, Peter Van Eyck, Antonio Centa)

10. Smiles Of A Summer Night - Dir: Ingmar Bergman
(Ulla Jacobsson, Eva Dahlbeck, Gunnar Bjornstrand, Jarl Kulle)

9. The Searchers - Dir: John Ford
(John Wayne, Jeffrey Hunter, Vera Miles, Ward Bond, Natalie Wood)

8. The 400 Blows - Dir: Francois Truffaut
(Jean-Pierre Leaud, Claire Maurier, Albert Remy, Guy Decomble)

7. Anatomy Of A Murder - Dir: Otto Preminger
(James Stewart, Lee Remick, Ben Gazzara, Arthur O'Connell, Eve Arden)

6. Touch Of Evil - Dir: Orson Welles
(Charlton Heston, Orson Welles, Janet Leigh, Joseph Calleia, Marlene Dietrich)

5. Rear Window - Dir: Alfred Hitchcock
(James Stewart, Grace Kelly, Thelma Ritter, Raymond Burr)

4. Les Diaboliques - Henri-Georges Clouzot
(Simone Signoret, Vera Clouzot, Paul Meurisse, Charles Vanel)

3. Jeux Interdits - Dir: Rene Clement
(Georges Poujouly, Brigitte Fossey)

2. La Ronde - Dir: Max Ophuls
(Anton Walbrook, Simone Signoret, Daniel Gelin, Simone Simon, Danielle Darrieux, Gerard Philipe, Jean-Louis Barrault, Odette Joyeux)

1. Seven Samurai - Dir: Akira Kurosawa
(Takashi Shimura, Toshiro Mifune, Yoshio Inaba, Seiji Miyaguchi)




Squidward Hark Bugle -> RE: Siegfried's Top 20 Favourite Films Per Decade - The 1940's (30/12/2009 9:43:29 PM)

Oh, the shame. I've seen only two films from this list, All About Eve and Rear Window, but I've come very close to watching Seven Samurai, Anatomy Of A Murder and Singin' In The Rain on a number of occasions.

All About Eve is glorious, the characterizations fascinating, and the plot satisfyingly complex, and with an interesting twist at the end. Anne Baxter annoys the living shit out of me; her performance was really, really shitty in my eyes, encompassing a lot of the negative aspects of the style of acting common in the day, such as whispering the last word in each sentence. Piss off. A dark spot on an otherwise very interesting film. Rear Window is very cool, and the way the tension is built throughout the film, along with the moral dilemmas posed, show a true master at work. I was dissatisfied with the ending, as I felt it didn't pay off well enough given all that had come before. The third act felt truncated.

How do you feel about Sunset Boulevard, Cinderella, A Streetcar Named Desire, Vertigo, The Killing, Paths Of Glory, Peter Pan, 12 Angry Men, Sleeping Beauty and Cat On A Hot Tin Roof?

All About Eve [image]http://empireonline.com/images/stars/small_4.gif[/image]
Rear Window [image]http://empireonline.com/images/stars/small_4.gif[/image]

I can't wait until you get into the 90s and the 2000s. I hope to have seen at least a few more than two or three in those lists. [:)]




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