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Boring Prophet -> PFA Player of the Year Shortlist, a ludicrous one. (14/4/2009 5:15:07 PM)

Edwin Van der Sar
Nemanja Vidic
Rio Ferdinand
Steven Gerrard
Cristiano Ronaldo
Ryan Giggs (What the fuck?!)

No Lampard, no Torres, Carrick has a better shout than a couple of the ones included, Van der Sar has not been the best keeper this year, he may have set a record but that was mostly down to the defence he had in front of him. And Ryan Giggs.... Don't get me fucking started...

Young player shortlist is:

Gabriel Agbonlahor
Ashley Young
Rafael da Silva
Stephen Ireland
Johnny Evans
Aaron Lennon

I think Ireland should take it, he's carried City on his back nearly all season.




Your Funny Uncle -> RE: PFA Player of the Year Shortlist, a ludicrous one. (14/4/2009 5:25:14 PM)

I think a United player might just win it this year....




Harry Lime -> RE: PFA Player of the Year Shortlist, a ludicrous one. (14/4/2009 5:30:57 PM)

No Phil Jagielka? The PFA suck badger dick.




HIM -> RE: PFA Player of the Year Shortlist, a ludicrous one. (14/4/2009 5:40:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Your Funny Uncle

I think a United player might just win it this year....


Although your comment is said in jest, don't bank on a united player winning it, particularly if gerrard continues his recent good form and United continue their dip. In 1999 - the year United won 3 cups or something - David Ginola won the PFA award because having so many players from one team split the judges decision.




Rinc -> RE: PFA Player of the Year Shortlist, a ludicrous one. (14/4/2009 5:43:00 PM)

It's a complete joke. Of that list i'd only include Vidic and Gerrard.

As The Fiver pointed out, what's the point of a season award in which the voting takes place in March, a whole 2 months before the season is over?

Van der Sar - not the best keeper in the league this season and owes the record to the team that stopped anyone actually getting to shoot at him.

Ferdinand - he's a fantastic defender but i don't think he's had a fantastic season.

Ronaldo - yes he's scored a few but hasn't lit up the league.

Giggs - complete joke. Has probably had about 5 good games this season.

Gerrard - despite what the naysayers might say about him he has been consistently good for us and whereas Alonso has tailed off a bit, Gerrard has got better and better.

Vidic - up until the end of voting he has been outstanding. For the last month he hasn't but before that an unpassable barrier.

My nominations would look like this:

Gerrard
Vidic
Lampard
Jagielka
Ireland
Schwarzer


Overall i'd actually say it's been a poor year for individual performances which is also evident in the goalscoring charts. Chelsea and Arsenal have been poorer than expected and the most success from teams has been as a collective, even Man Utd haven't many players who have really shone. Instead they worked together and haven't relied on one player.




Flatulent_Bob -> RE: PFA Player of the Year Shortlist, a ludicrous one. (14/4/2009 5:50:00 PM)

Er,  don't want to spoil any of your rants but the PFA player of the year is for the callendar year, and the players voted in January.

United won the league and European Cup so I think its fair they have a fair few players in the list, including Ronaldo's goals last season so his nomination is also fair enough.

The league, European Cup, plus votes being taken in January makes me think Vidic could be a shoe in.  

If you are wanting the player of this season that is voted for by the Writers and yes I would think Gerrard will be lifting that one.




Rinc -> RE: PFA Player of the Year Shortlist, a ludicrous one. (14/4/2009 5:57:55 PM)

Even so, the awards don't recognise form over the 12 months of 2008. Otherwise why would Van der Sar or Giggs be in there? And why did voting not close till March? It's a joke really.




*emz6* -> RE: PFA Player of the Year Shortlist, a ludicrous one. (14/4/2009 5:59:49 PM)

Look i know im a Chelsea fan but in all seriousness how is Lampard not nominated! 




Rinc -> RE: PFA Player of the Year Shortlist, a ludicrous one. (14/4/2009 6:01:29 PM)

Even Wenger has said about how stupid it is.

I also find it silly that an award for form in 2008 is presented a whole 4 months later in April!




matthewforan -> RE: PFA Player of the Year Shortlist, a ludicrous one. (14/4/2009 6:04:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Harry Lime

No Phil Jagielka? The PFA suck badger dick.


True, also Cahill has been outstanding.




Boring Prophet -> RE: PFA Player of the Year Shortlist, a ludicrous one. (14/4/2009 6:16:47 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Flatulent_Bob

Er,  don't want to spoil any of your rants but the PFA player of the year is for the callendar year, and the players voted in January.




Doesn't explain Lampard's omission. He was immense for the whole of 2008.




Flatulent_Bob -> RE: PFA Player of the Year Shortlist, a ludicrous one. (14/4/2009 7:48:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Boring Prophet


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ORIGINAL: Flatulent_Bob

Er,  don't want to spoil any of your rants but the PFA player of the year is for the callendar year, and the players voted in January.




Doesn't explain Lampard's omission. He was immense for the whole of 2008.


No but Chelsea's performances under Big Phil which was all happening around vote time would of had an effect.
All the players nominated were having good performances along with their teams. 
Also bear in mind this is who the players have voted for, so there isn't really any explaining to do.  They didn't vote for him, quite simple really.




Rinc -> RE: PFA Player of the Year Shortlist, a ludicrous one. (14/4/2009 8:05:16 PM)

Players have short memories, or in most cases no memories at all. [;)]




directorscut -> RE: PFA Player of the Year Shortlist, a ludicrous one. (14/4/2009 8:37:17 PM)

Anyone who think Ronaldo was better than Stevie Ireland this year is a moron.




Boring Prophet -> RE: PFA Player of the Year Shortlist, a ludicrous one. (14/4/2009 9:31:50 PM)

Can't wait to see the majority of the list playing in a turgid 1-1 draw tomorrow night. [:D]




Goodfella -> RE: PFA Player of the Year Shortlist, a ludicrous one. (15/4/2009 9:28:26 AM)

Hasn't Vidic been injuired most of the season?[&:]

Van Der Sar, how many goals have United conceded in the last few weeks? Oh and did you see the best saves that SSN could pull out of the bag for their brief clips were simple saves from unrealistic 30 yarders!? Giggs has played extremely well in certain games but hasn't done enough to earn a PFA nomination! As for Ronaldo, if he had scored two all season and been sent off 18 times he'd still get a nomination...[8|]

No Torres or Barry is quite astonishing frankly.

As for the young player nominations, where the fuck is Fellani?




borstal -> RE: PFA Player of the Year Shortlist, a ludicrous one. (15/4/2009 10:38:38 AM)

People aren't reading the whole thread are they?




igotnewlegs -> RE: PFA Player of the Year Shortlist, a ludicrous one. (15/4/2009 10:45:27 AM)

Fuckin FA know fuckin nothing. Where the fuck is Titus motherfuckin Bramble?




Sexual Harassment Panda -> RE: PFA Player of the Year Shortlist, a ludicrous one. (15/4/2009 11:14:01 AM)

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ORIGINAL: borstal

People aren't reading the whole thread are they?


Yes, it's funny how all these people are coming in and saying it's ridiculous their favourite player has been omitted without reading what the voting is for. The voting ended in January, not March and takes into account 2008 in it's entirety, so Ronaldo being voted for makes sense, he was sensational between January and May last year, and while people say he's not been great this season, he's still the top scorer.  As for Vidic being injured, Goodfella you must watch about 2 games of football a year [:D]




clownfoot -> RE: PFA Player of the Year Shortlist, a ludicrous one. (15/4/2009 11:56:46 AM)

From yesterday's Fiver...

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A LIST NOT EVEN A MOTHER COULD LOVE

The Fiver, we'll be honest, isn't the most contemporary of characters.

We still have a pen pal - and not only because Weird Uncle Fiver is currently doing a stretch in a computer-free house of correction - we still ask for Opal Fruits and a Marathon at the tuck shop and we still think myspace is the reward you get for wearing especially baggy undercrackers. But even we don't really understand why the PFA Player of the Year awards are decided using a system that makes Mike Newell's views on women seem modish and enlightened.

The nominees for the awards were announced today, even though the votes were cast over a month ago. Voting for a player of the year at the start of March is about as relevant as judging a film at the end of act two (what's the point of that little fella with the limp in Usual Suspects anyway?). The story hasn't been told. Can't they just tweet them in on the final evening of the season or something? Me fink dat da Stevie G did da goal and is da good player. Give 'im da ward.

The consequence of such an antiquated process is a list so laughable that it's not even funny. There is no sign of the season's outstanding players - Fwank, Stephen Ireland, Brede Hangeland, Kevin Davies, Darren Fletcher, Xabi Alonso, Robin van Persie, Andrea Dossena, Gary Neville - and instead the usual suspects predominate:
hideous flat-track bullies like Him and Mbe, a pair of default picks - yes, picks - who would still make the list if they were out all season with knack.

Anyway, here we celebrate the best bits from the six nominees for the PFA player of the year August 2008-February 2009 award:

Rio Ferdinand Guest-edited OSM, chatted with Iain Dowie, did his back a few times, performed like a wino with electric pants in the 1-1 draw at Everton. As for this ( http://guardian.chtah.com/a/tBJ5LCvAY30QpAe9jDFAsp3YlK$/fvr23 ) ...

$tevie Mbe Scored one whole league goal against sides in the top half during the voting period. Used to wipe Michael Essien's bottom. Spent some time in a cold cell. Appeared in court in a nice suit.

Ryan Giggs Had his fourth-worst season, after 1994-95, 2002-03 and 2007-08. Ran past a few traffic cones in win over Chelsea.

Him Substituted himself against Aston Villa. Escaped red cards for kicking Scott Brown, Michael Dawson, Ian Wilkinson, David Dunn. Scored two away goals in the league all season. At West Brom.

Nemanja Vidic Fair enough, he was great during the voting period, but it looks slightly silly now that he's nursing the new porta that Fernando Torres tore him a month ago, doesn't it.

Edwin van der Sar Piece of meat with eyes who has never fully recovered from having his hooter blootered by Robbie Keane two years ago. Whiled away 1311 minutes between November and March by trying to make out 21 men in the middle distance.

Young player of the year nominees Gabriel Agbonlahor, Rafael da Silva, Jonny Evans, Ashley Young and the winner is Stephen Ireland.
 




Boring Prophet -> RE: PFA Player of the Year Shortlist, a ludicrous one. (15/4/2009 3:14:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sexual Harassment Panda

quote:

ORIGINAL: borstal

People aren't reading the whole thread are they?


Yes, it's funny how all these people are coming in and saying it's ridiculous their favourite player has been omitted without reading what the voting is for. The voting ended in January, not March and takes into account 2008 in it's entirety, so Ronaldo being voted for makes sense, he was sensational between January and May last year, and while people say he's not been great this season, he's still the top scorer.  As for Vidic being injured, Goodfella you must watch about 2 games of football a year [:D]



If it's for the whole of 2008, Giggs and Van der Sar shouldn't be there. Towards the end of last season Frank Lampard WAS Chelsea and he's been consistent since then. Players are fucking idiots.




Goodfella -> RE: PFA Player of the Year Shortlist, a ludicrous one. (15/4/2009 5:43:14 PM)

Maybe it does take 2008 into account, still doesn't explain the nominations for Vidic, Van Der Sar and Giggs when Torres and Barry who had brilliant years have been omitted? Changes nothing...




Rhubarb -> RE: PFA Player of the Year Shortlist, a ludicrous one. (15/4/2009 5:52:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Boring Prophet


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sexual Harassment Panda

quote:

ORIGINAL: borstal

People aren't reading the whole thread are they?


Yes, it's funny how all these people are coming in and saying it's ridiculous their favourite player has been omitted without reading what the voting is for. The voting ended in January, not March and takes into account 2008 in it's entirety, so Ronaldo being voted for makes sense, he was sensational between January and May last year, and while people say he's not been great this season, he's still the top scorer.  As for Vidic being injured, Goodfella you must watch about 2 games of football a year [:D]



If it's for the whole of 2008, Giggs and Van der Sar shouldn't be there. Towards the end of last season Frank Lampard WAS Chelsea and he's been consistent since then. Players are fucking idiots.


This is pretty much it.




Rinc -> RE: PFA Player of the Year Shortlist, a ludicrous one. (15/4/2009 5:55:32 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sexual Harassment Panda

quote:

ORIGINAL: borstal

People aren't reading the whole thread are they?


Yes, it's funny how all these people are coming in and saying it's ridiculous their favourite player has been omitted without reading what the voting is for. The voting ended in January, not March and takes into account 2008 in it's entirety, so Ronaldo being voted for makes sense, he was sensational between January and May last year, and while people say he's not been great this season, he's still the top scorer.  As for Vidic being injured, Goodfella you must watch about 2 games of football a year [:D]



How do you know the voting ended in January? Honestly i've looked to find out exactly when voting ended and can't find anything. Even Wenger said: 'What I believe is that the decisions are all made in February.' The Telegraph and The Guardian both said the deadline was March 16th this year.




Felix -> RE: PFA Player of the Year Shortlist, a ludicrous one. (16/4/2009 1:08:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Goodfella

Maybe it does take 2008 into account, still doesn't explain the nominations for Vidic, Van Der Sar and Giggs when Torres and Barry who had brilliant years have been omitted? Changes nothing...


Wow. Just wow. You know absolutely nothing about football do you.

Vidic has had an outstanding year.




Peter Griffin -> RE: PFA Player of the Year Shortlist, a ludicrous one. (16/4/2009 1:20:40 PM)

Vidic & Ireland for me.




pocketrocket -> RE: PFA Player of the Year Shortlist, a ludicrous one. (16/4/2009 1:45:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Felix


quote:

ORIGINAL: Goodfella

Maybe it does take 2008 into account, still doesn't explain the nominations for Vidic, Van Der Sar and Giggs when Torres and Barry who had brilliant years have been omitted? Changes nothing...


Wow. Just wow. You know absolutely nothing about football do you.

Vidic has had an outstanding year.


Don't be too harsh Felix he is a Charlton fan...[:D]




borstal -> RE: PFA Player of the Year Shortlist, a ludicrous one. (16/4/2009 1:47:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: pocketrocket

Don't be too harsh Felix he is a Charlton fan...[:D]



The poor bastard. We can't just let him suffer, does anyone have a gun?




Felix -> RE: PFA Player of the Year Shortlist, a ludicrous one. (16/4/2009 1:51:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: pocketrocket

quote:

ORIGINAL: Felix


quote:

ORIGINAL: Goodfella

Maybe it does take 2008 into account, still doesn't explain the nominations for Vidic, Van Der Sar and Giggs when Torres and Barry who had brilliant years have been omitted? Changes nothing...


Wow. Just wow. You know absolutely nothing about football do you.

Vidic has had an outstanding year.


Don't be too harsh Felix he is a Charlton fan...[:D]


Oh sorry, didnt realise he wasnt a football fan... [:D]




Goodfella -> RE: PFA Player of the Year Shortlist, a ludicrous one. (16/4/2009 2:11:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Felix


quote:

ORIGINAL: Goodfella

Maybe it does take 2008 into account, still doesn't explain the nominations for Vidic, Van Der Sar and Giggs when Torres and Barry who had brilliant years have been omitted? Changes nothing...


Wow. Just wow. You know absolutely nothing about football do you.

Vidic has had an outstanding year.


Wow. Just wow. A United fan.

I never saw that coming...[8|]




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