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rich -> RE: Bond 23 (12/10/2012 9:11:59 PM)

Probably just Judi Dench again, apparently it annoys people when she swears, so they make sure to add a bit.





manwihtheplan -> RE: Bond 23 (13/10/2012 12:00:16 AM)

According to the press screenings, the gun barrel scene is not at the beginning of Skyfall.

Outrageous. But then let's not forget everyone praised Casino Royale even though it featured the incredibly disrespectful line when Bond is asked "vodka martini, shaken not stirred?" and Bond replies with something like "do I look like I care?" [8|]



porntrooper -> RE: Bond 23 (13/10/2012 1:00:49 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: manwihtheplan

According to the press screenings, the gun barrel scene is not at the beginning of Skyfall.

Outrageous. But then let's not forget everyone praised Casino Royale even though it featured the incredibly disrespectful line when Bond is asked "vodka martini, shaken not stirred?" and Bond replies with something like "do I look like I care?" [8|]


I have no idea if this is serious or sarcastic....

Anyway, during The Million Pound Drop on Channel 4 tonight there was a great tv spot for this. I thought it was brilliant! The Aston reveal, the humour between Dench and Bond and between Bond and Q was great, a bad guy that looked like Odd Job, Bardem looking great, some more great looking action and just an overall feel that this is going to be a really special Bond movie. I think this looks fucking great.

I really hope it lives up to the promise shown in the trailers. If it does, I expect Sam Mendes to be a much sought after director for any number of future comic book adaptations.....

He's always been a great director in my eyes, but never really one I considered for big budget stuff. However, the glimpses from Skyfall suggest he may be very, very good at directing action and we know he can do drama and story. Batman reboot anyone??



manwihtheplan -> RE: Bond 23 (13/10/2012 1:44:32 AM)

Daniel Craig hasn't apologized for playing James Bond. I'm still waiting....

Skyfall... like apple crumble.... la la la.




porntrooper -> RE: Bond 23 (13/10/2012 3:05:47 AM)

First review is in over at Daily Mail, however, it's less a review and more a "I've seen it, I've seen it!" style boast with no substance to the review, although it does suggest it's very very good with an eventual rating of 5 stars. Not going to get too excited by the 'review' but everything is shaping up very nicely.



Fit Kisto -> RE: Bond 23 (13/10/2012 5:48:12 AM)

IGN have a review up too http://uk.ign.com/articles/2012/10/13/skyfall-review Very positive, particularly about Javier Bardem and providing a fairly detailed analysis of what works.

Hope to hear Empire's input soon




spark1 -> RE: Bond 23 (13/10/2012 12:30:19 PM)

mi-6.com gives overview of reviews and one of its own-

http://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/articles/bond_23_reviews_uk_first_newspapers.php3?t=&s=&id=03322



http://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/bond23/skyfall_review.php3?t=&s=&id=03323

'mommy's been very naughty'



manwihtheplan -> RE: Bond 23 (13/10/2012 12:34:29 PM)

Seems the usual clueless nonsense from ignorant film reviewers.

Daily Mirror

"While Skyfall looks and feels like a Bond film "

...so that's why there is no gun barrel at the start of the film, is it? Cos it feels like a Bond film not to have it at the start? [8|] Wow, such ignorance. I think the words 'film critics' are coded language for 'total prat'.



MonsterCat -> RE: Bond 23 (13/10/2012 12:42:08 PM)

Yeah, but at least they saw the film before criticizing it.



manwihtheplan -> RE: Bond 23 (13/10/2012 1:20:50 PM)

I hope this film flops!!!!!

(it's not going to)




rich -> RE: Bond 23 (13/10/2012 1:21:43 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: MonsterCat

Yeah, but at least they saw the film before criticizing it.


Hah those tabloid jokers eh



AxlReznor -> RE: Bond 23 (13/10/2012 4:18:23 PM)

I never realised that a two second sequence before even the pre-credit scenes was enough to make or break a movie. Man, have I been living in ignorance...



manwihtheplan -> RE: Bond 23 - QOS spoilers aplenty! (13/10/2012 9:31:55 PM)

Craig looks too weird to be James Bond. Here, look at all his wrestling type facial grimaces -

Bond on train SPOILER CLIP!

http://blogs.indiewire.com/shadowandact/naomie-harris-aims-fires-a-kill-shot-at-007-sending-him-free-falling-in-new-skyfall-clip

He looks like a Russian assassin from Saint Petersburg , hardly a suave secret agent living on the Kings Road, Chelsea. He's a decent enough actor but nah, Bond fans got sold a fake Bond back in 2006's Casino Royale. He was miscast. All this stuff about this being best Bond film ever - it's been heard a million times since From Russia With Love was released. It's classic 'bait em' promotion to get people to see the film. And the media are complicit in this. I'm sure Skyfall will be decent but people have to praise it as "the best ever" to sell the film. Anyway, just my opinion. Blah blah and more blah.

By the way, in that train clip it looks like the bad guy is giving anal sex to Craig's Bond. Now that is something new for the franchise. [:'(] Bit of intentional comedy, I suspect. Anyway, I'm sure the film will be fun and all that.




rich -> RE: Bond 23 - QOS spoilers aplenty! (13/10/2012 10:11:04 PM)

Yeah thanks for that particular broken record, very insightful. I wonder do you go around in real life judging people on how tall they are and what hair colour they have? There's a word for that. Now give it a rest, nobody wants to hear it.

quote:

I never realised that a two second sequence before even the pre-credit scenes was enough to make or break a movie. Man, have I been living in ignorance...


I won't lie, it's very silly to have it at the end like QOS. But it was hardly going to make that a good film having it at the start.



Timon -> RE: Bond 23 (14/10/2012 9:49:16 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: manwihtheplang

Outrageous. But then let's not forget everyone praised Casino Royale even though it featured the incredibly disrespectful line when Bond is asked "vodka martini, shaken not stirred?" and Bond replies with something like "do I look like I care?" [8|]


Disrespectful to.... Martini?



Rgirvan44 -> RE: Bond 23 - QOS spoilers aplenty! (14/10/2012 11:16:58 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: manwihtheplan

Craig looks too weird to be James Bond. Here, look at all his wrestling type facial grimaces -

Bond on train SPOILER CLIP!

http://blogs.indiewire.com/shadowandact/naomie-harris-aims-fires-a-kill-shot-at-007-sending-him-free-falling-in-new-skyfall-clip

He looks like a Russian assassin from Saint Petersburg , hardly a suave secret agent living on the Kings Road, Chelsea. He's a decent enough actor but nah, Bond fans got sold a fake Bond back in 2006's Casino Royale. He was miscast. All this stuff about this being best Bond film ever - it's been heard a million times since From Russia With Love was released. It's classic 'bait em' promotion to get people to see the film. And the media are complicit in this. I'm sure Skyfall will be decent but people have to praise it as "the best ever" to sell the film. Anyway, just my opinion. Blah blah and more blah.

By the way, in that train clip it looks like the bad guy is giving anal sex to Craig's Bond. Now that is something new for the franchise. [:'(] Bit of intentional comedy, I suspect. Anyway, I'm sure the film will be fun and all that.




Is it true that Craig's helmet is too big?




*a joke for those who were on the Dredd thread



Scruffybobby -> RE: Bond 23 (14/10/2012 12:33:37 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: manwihtheplan

According to the press screenings, the gun barrel scene is not at the beginning of Skyfall.

Outrageous. But then let's not forget everyone praised Casino Royale even though it featured the incredibly disrespectful line when Bond is asked "vodka martini, shaken not stirred?" and Bond replies with something like "do I look like I care?" [8|]


Tell me, because I really do want to know, how do you feel about Bond drinking Heineken?



manwihtheplan -> RE: Bond 23 (14/10/2012 1:40:54 PM)

It's a shame but the product placement pays for some of the budget. Quantum of Solace had some funding from Coco-Cola:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuvW6f_IfBs

quote:

For Quantum of Solace, James Bond teams up with Coca-Cola Zero. This is the first global promotional partnership for Coke Zero since its successful launch in 2005.
To promote this unique partnership, The Coca-Cola Company rolls out a fully integrated marketing campaign across 40 markets to support the partnership including print and outdoor advertising as well as retail, packaging and in-cinema activations.


I can't imagine Bond drinking Coca-Cola. Diet Pepsi - sure, but not Coca-Cola. [:D]





Cool Breeze -> RE: Bond 23 (14/10/2012 1:47:41 PM)

Why do they need product placement to fund the movies anyway? These movies have made the Bond people zillionaires over the years.How could they be short of cash to fund the films?



Rgirvan44 -> RE: Bond 23 (14/10/2012 1:50:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Cool Breeze

Why do they need product placement to fund the movies anyway? These movies have made the Bond people zillionaires over the years.How could they be short of cash to fund the films?


But you have to keep the cash flowing - it raises revenue which is then invested in the next film and so on and so forth. It was quite clever of them to make the marketing a key part of the films - the fans want to know what car he has etc.



manwihtheplan -> RE: Bond 23 (14/10/2012 2:17:34 PM)

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How could they be short of cash to fund the films?


It's called creative accounting. This is why James Bond is one of the most profitable film franchises in film history but MGM - the studio that bankrolls the films - went bankrupt!

quote:

Creative accounting and earnings management are euphemisms referring to accounting practices that may follow the letter of the rules of standard accounting practices, but certainly deviate from the spirit of those rules.

The term as generally understood refers to systematic misrepresentation of the true income and assets of corporations or other organizations. "Creative accounting" is at the root of a number of accounting scandals, and many proposals for accounting reform - usually centering on an updated analysis of capital and factors of production that would correctly reflect how value is added.


[;)]




spark1 -> RE: Bond 23 (14/10/2012 2:35:12 PM)

thumbs up for SF from variety-

http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117948556/

'tell him he's fired!'



porntrooper -> RE: Bond 23 - QOS spoilers aplenty! (14/10/2012 3:02:56 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: rich


I won't lie, it's very silly to have it at the end like QOS. But it was hardly going to make that a good film having it at the start.


I actually thought it worked to have the gun barrel at the end of QoS. Casino Royale incorporated it into the opening assasination so it didnt feel like the traditional gun barrel, but it was there and felt right for that movie, given how it took Bond back to a non-00 status in that opening. During Casino Royal and QoS he was essentially developing into the Bond character we know, and it's one overall story really (I've always viewed QoS as Casino Royale 1.5 and it feels like a continuing story and sequel rather than just another Bond adventure). Having the gun barrel at the end of that kinda signalled the start of Bond to me, so I liked it. Given that's how QoS ended, I would've liked to see the gun barrel return to the start for Skyfall (has it been confirmed it does/doesnt?) but it's not a deal breaker. The following 140 minutes is more important to me than the one dedicated to the gun barrel.



MonsterCat -> RE: Bond 23 (14/10/2012 6:34:00 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Timon


quote:

ORIGINAL: manwihtheplang

Outrageous. But then let's not forget everyone praised Casino Royale even though it featured the incredibly disrespectful line when Bond is asked "vodka martini, shaken not stirred?" and Bond replies with something like "do I look like I care?" [8|]


Disrespectful to.... Martini?


In all fairness to manwiththedreddhead, my vodka martini was very offended by this egregious insult.



spark1 -> RE: Bond 23 (15/10/2012 10:17:22 AM)

could SF be looking at real oscar consideration?-

http://weblogs.variety.com/thevote/2012/10/make-room-for-skyfall-in-best-picture-consideration.html


i like the coda endings to CR and QoS, makes a change from the henchman trying to kill 007 one last time or a cheessy line from bond as he get one last shag.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKysEIVJfBs&safe=active

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF2e6LWBhhU&safe=active

hope SF has a similar downbeat coda.

'we're free!'
'kara, we're on a russian airbase in the middle of afganistan!'



rich -> RE: Bond 23 (15/10/2012 6:28:17 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: spark1

could SF be looking at real oscar consideration?-



Well no



spark1 -> RE: Bond 23 (16/10/2012 10:27:57 AM)

007.com review SF-


http://www.007magazine.co.uk/bond23/skyfall_review.htm


wiil we see the every 2 years cycle return for good?-

http://www.mi6-hq.com/news/index.php?itemid=10511&t=mi6&s=news


'tastes sweet, like money'



spark1 -> RE: Bond 23 (17/10/2012 10:20:12 AM)

bond to stick with imax for a while and not going 3d just yet-

http://www.mi6-hq.com/news/index.php?itemid=10522&t=mi6&s=news

i can see this doing $200mil+ in US.


'it seems i'm the condemned man and you're the hearty breakfast'



spark1 -> RE: Bond 23 (19/10/2012 10:23:38 AM)

sir roger is doing a signing at hmv oxford st on monday.

willow smith sings 'skyfall'-


http://popwatch.ew.com/2012/10/19/willow-smith-skyfall-video/



check this out it, its so cool-


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSzVXmUoDaw

'its a small world, you're a toro too!'



Timon -> RE: Bond 23 (19/10/2012 2:16:44 PM)

So with Craig signed on to do another two Bond films, that means a new actor won't be cast in the role for another... 6 years?

With that in mind, is there a chance that current favourite Fassbender might be too old for the role by then? He's 35/36 now...

I'm thinking that the most likely contenders are the young British/Irish/Commonwealth actors that are around 28/29 now, so will be 35ish when the opportunity comes up - your Tom Hiddlestons, your Aidan Turners, your
Charlie Coxs - actors who are too young now, but won't be in a few years time.

Of course, I still think Henry Cavill might get the role. Yes, I know he's Superman, but he was down to the last two last time and lost it for being too young - plus the Bond producers have a habit of coming back to actors they thought were previously too young (Dalton, Brosnan).

The ONLY thing holding him back is the fact that's he's now Superman. If it's a hit, his career and price tag will rocket, however there's no reason why an actor can't juggle or try to juggle multiple franchises - Daniel Craig (Bond, Girl With The...), Hugh Jackman (X-Men, Van Helsing), etc. Even if it's a flop, I don't think that would hold him back significantly from getting the gig. Plus he really does look the part.








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