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Starscream -> Champions League 2009/2010 Thread (28/8/2008 5:05:33 PM)

Group A
Chelsea
AS Roma
Bordeaux
CFR 1907 Cluj

Group B
Inter Milan
Werder Bremen
Panathinaikos
Anorthosis

Group C
Barcelona
Sporting Lisbon
FC Basel
FC Shakhtar Donetsk

Group D
Liverpool
PSV
Marseille
Atletico Madrid

Group E
Manchester United
Villarreal
Celtic
Aalborg

Group F
Lyon
Bayern Munich
Steaua Bucuresti
Fiorentina

Group G
Arsenal
Porto
Fenerbache
Dynamo Kyiv

Group H
Real Madrid
Juventus
FC Zenit
Bate Borisov




jediwarrior -> RE: Champions League 2008/2009 Thread (28/8/2008 5:23:47 PM)

I've never known a draw to take so long. Its been 24 mins and only the seeded teams drawn so far.




Starscream -> RE: Champions League 2008/2009 Thread (28/8/2008 5:35:38 PM)

It seems to be  the Chelsea consolation prize award ceremony.[:D]




borstal -> RE: Champions League 2008/2009 Thread (28/8/2008 5:45:24 PM)

Not bad for a team that appeared in two finals and still won nothing. Good players yes, but Terry defender of the year? Spat on someone in the final missed a penalty and cried? Sympathy vote for Chelsea.




matthewforan -> RE: Champions League 2008/2009 Thread (28/8/2008 5:49:09 PM)

Another hard draw for the mighty Glasgow Celtic but we've had tough ones before.

hail hail




Starscream -> RE: Champions League 2008/2009 Thread (28/8/2008 5:53:41 PM)

Draw posted at top of thread

I knew we would  get Villarreal. Return of Rossi [:)]

Great draw for United




borstal -> RE: Champions League 2008/2009 Thread (28/8/2008 5:57:31 PM)

Liverpools looks tricky




matthewforan -> RE: Champions League 2008/2009 Thread (28/8/2008 6:06:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Starscream

Draw posted at top of thread

I knew we would  get Villarreal. Return of Rossi [:)]

Great draw for United


Bring it on mate, we beat you at Paradise and gave you a good scare at OT.

'Mon the Hoops!




Jackal -> RE: Champions League 2008/2009 Thread (28/8/2008 7:00:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Starscream

Great draw for United


Great draw for Celtic as well. We don't fear anyone at Parkhead. It took Barcelona's best performance of the whole of last season (which Xavi himself admitted) to beat us 3-2. I think 9 points at home is a realistic target. We obviously have to target Aalborg for an away win but, then, it would be daft to completely write them off. Watching Celtic play away from home is an entirely different experience to watching them at home.

I think we can do it.




ray_likethefish -> RE: Champions League 2008/2009 Thread (30/8/2008 4:38:39 PM)

I'm really looking forward to seeing how Athletico will do this year, their first time back in the Champions League since 96 (i think). Their front line rivals that of almost anybody elses! Deigo Forlan and Sergio Augerio. It's going to be interesting to see how Augerio copes with the step up to Champions League football.

Lyon again will be another exciting team to watch but they got rid of the promising Ben Arfa so their only major hot prospects are Benzema and their younh goal keeper who's name escapes me.

This is who i think is going to go through from each group

Group A
Chelsea
AS Roma
Bordeaux
CFR 1907 Cluj

Group B
Inter Milan
Werder Bremen
Panathinaikos
Anorthosis

Group C
Barcelona
Sporting Lisbon
FC Basel
FC Shakhtar Donetsk

Group D
Liverpool
PSV
Marseille
Atletico Madrid

Group E
Manchester United
Villarreal
Celtic
Aalborg

Group F
Lyon
Bayern Munich
Steaua Bucuresti
Fiorentina

Group G
Arsenal
Porto
Fenerbache
Dynamo Kyiv

Group H
Real Madrid
Juventus
FC Zenit
Bate Borisov


In a couple of the groups the second qualification spot is really up for grabs (Group H for example, i've opted for Juventus because of their experience in the CL, but Zenit are a bright team and could push both Real and Juve).

I can't wait for this years competition to start!!




James2183 -> RE: Champions League 2008/2009 Thread (1/10/2008 9:55:36 PM)

I have yet to see the goal yet but it seems Barca have played it a bit sneaky and scored after Shakhtar kicked the ball out sportingly. It will be interesting to see if there is any backlash for them scoring if it turns out to be true. 




proxy music -> RE: Champions League 2008/2009 Thread (2/10/2008 12:58:14 PM)

Sky's Premiership-centric rhetoric in their European coverage really annoys me, last night, according to Richard Keys, we had Claude Makalele "inventing" the holding midfield position. Even in recent history, blokes like Dunga might have something to say about that. And, a fortnight ago, he wondered if Del Piero had been studying the way Ronaldo takes his freekicks - as if he hadn't been spanking them in since the Slimey One was in short-trousers.

And, yes, I realise he's in short-trousers most of the time.[;)]




matthewforan -> RE: Champions League 2008/2009 Thread (2/10/2008 8:28:30 PM)

Messi's second last night was rather good http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9YamJK7TWk

The commentry for it's rather funny too he really seem to like Messi, also look out for the coach who's affriad to go on to the pitch [:D]




James2183 -> RE: Champions League 2008/2009 Thread (22/10/2008 8:13:55 PM)

Odds on Platini coming out and moaning again if Chelsea and Liverpool win tonight? I'm personally hoping both teams crush their opponents just to piss him off [:D]




Goodfella -> RE: Champions League 2008/2009 Thread (22/10/2008 8:55:45 PM)

I'm listening to Chelsea v Roma on talkSPORT. Doesn't sound like a great game at the moment.




James2183 -> RE: Champions League 2008/2009 Thread (22/10/2008 9:29:43 PM)

It's not. Looks like I picked the wrong game to watch as the Barca game sounds like a cracker. 




Goodfella -> RE: Champions League 2008/2009 Thread (22/10/2008 10:20:21 PM)

Well that was shit. The fans must have been delighted at 40 a ticket.

Just listening to Stan Collymore getting a rollicking on a phone-in now for attacking the SPL and Celtic. Love it![:D]




Flatulent_Bob -> RE: Champions League 2008/2009 Thread (23/10/2008 9:44:23 AM)

He was commenting on Ian Wright saying Celtic and Rangers should be allowed to join the Premiership because it was unfair.  Stan basically said why is their league our problem, fuck em, which is a sentiment I am right behind.




Goodfella -> RE: Champions League 2008/2009 Thread (23/10/2008 9:52:21 AM)

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He was commenting on Ian Wright saying Celtic and Rangers should be allowed to join the Premiership because it was unfair.  Stan basically said why is their league our problem, fuck em, which is a sentiment I am right behind.



I think the main reaction was from Celtic fans dismayed by his description of their defeat to Man United on Tuesday night. I don't really have an opinion on them and Rangers joining the prem, it would be interesting to see but I'm not right behind it.




Flatulent_Bob -> RE: Champions League 2008/2009 Thread (23/10/2008 2:29:29 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Goodfella

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ORIGINAL: Flatulent_Bob

He was commenting on Ian Wright saying Celtic and Rangers should be allowed to join the Premiership because it was unfair.  Stan basically said why is their league our problem, fuck em, which is a sentiment I am right behind.



I think the main reaction was from Celtic fans dismayed by his description of their defeat to Man United on Tuesday night. I don't really have an opinion on them and Rangers joining the prem, it would be interesting to see but I'm not right behind it.


I just don't see why they deserve to join our league especially when our teams would have to miss out.  Plus the fact that it would only benefit the scottish teams everyone else would lose out.
Celtic were massively outplayed by United who never got out of 3rd gear. Offside goals or not they were battered.




broonie -> RE: Champions League 2008/2009 Thread (23/10/2008 4:48:35 PM)

What the f*** do you expect when a certain Man Utd player costs more than what the wage stucture has been at Celtic Park for the last 6-7 years. Man Utd haven't been beating at home in the Champions League for about 7 years, so there wasn't much of a chance of a team who haven't even won away from home in the CL beating them. I'm quite happy for Rangers and Celtic to stay in the SPL, going to EPL would only harm thier chances of playing in Europe.

When you look at the leagues, Man Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal are basically the Rangers & Celtic of the EPL. I would love to see any team out with the top four in England and the top two in Scotland be ousted from thier cushy CL positions.

I can understand the fear in that if Celtic and Rangers did get into the EPL that it would mean English teams losing out on revenue and Euro places,  but I think it's because most EPL team know that Celtic and Rangers are bigger than them in terms of supports, fan base and commercial worth.

Anyway, the reality is Celtic and Rangers will never get in the EPL, and thats fine by me.

I will say one more thing, Celtic and Rangers will always have something that in years to come the EPL teams will lose a lot of...identity. The EPL teams are turning into billionaires playtoys. Great to have a super-rich backer yeah, but if that backer doesn't get immediate success, managers get sacked, clubs lose stability, consequence? Teams get relegated. Laugh if you want, but give it a few years and you'll see what I mean.




proxy music -> RE: Champions League 2008/2009 Thread (23/10/2008 5:21:40 PM)

Just ignore him, he's a Sheffield United supporter with a chip on his shoulder - imagine how big the chip would be if he supported one of the biggest clubs in the world that will, paradoxically, never challenge for international honours again.




Goodfella -> RE: Champions League 2008/2009 Thread (23/10/2008 5:29:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Flatulent_Bob

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ORIGINAL: Goodfella

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ORIGINAL: Flatulent_Bob

He was commenting on Ian Wright saying Celtic and Rangers should be allowed to join the Premiership because it was unfair.  Stan basically said why is their league our problem, fuck em, which is a sentiment I am right behind.



I think the main reaction was from Celtic fans dismayed by his description of their defeat to Man United on Tuesday night. I don't really have an opinion on them and Rangers joining the prem, it would be interesting to see but I'm not right behind it.


I just don't see why they deserve to join our league especially when our teams would have to miss out.  Plus the fact that it would only benefit the scottish teams everyone else would lose out.
Celtic were massively outplayed by United who never got out of 3rd gear. Offside goals or not they were battered.


They were missing their two main strikers though weren't they? On their night in the CL, Celtic can look a very good side.




Flatulent_Bob -> RE: Champions League 2008/2009 Thread (24/10/2008 9:29:33 AM)

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ORIGINAL: proxy music

Just ignore him, he's a Sheffield United supporter with a chip on his shoulder - imagine how big the chip would be if he supported one of the biggest clubs in the world that will, paradoxically, never challenge for international honours again.


Oh come on I'm not having a Scottish fan throwing the chip on the shoulder jibes around.  Please explain how my comments have anything to do with being a Sheffield United fan?  Just to jog your memory I said that I didn't see why the lack of finance in your league is our problem.  Is that a wrong statement to make? Is it our duty to help you out by inviting you to join our league? 
Secondly I said you were outplayed by Manchester United in the week.  Again is there anything incorrect with that statement?
If not take your bitter little comments and come back when you actually have something to say rather than pathetic little digs.

Broonie,  interesting comment about the loss of identity of English clubs due to foreign ownership.  I would counter that Celtic are foreign owned while 6 of your starting players in your Champions League games we also not able to represent your country.  I don't think Celtic have lost their identity? 
Do you think Manchester United have, Liverpool or Villa have?  In my opinion its more than the owner that give a sense of identity to a club.
In fact Chelsea spending hundreds of millions is actually more in keeping with the identity of their history of their club as the playboys of the league, the old king road etc.   So no I'm not laughing at it I just don't believe it to be correct, just as I didn't believe Proxy's rant about Premiership debt because when you actually cut through the soundbite it has little substance in reality.




Professor Moriarty -> RE: Champions League 2008/2009 Thread (24/10/2008 10:59:57 AM)

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ORIGINAL: proxy music

Just ignore him, he's a Sheffield United supporter with a chip on his shoulder - imagine how big the chip would be if he supported one of the biggest clubs in the world that will, paradoxically, never challenge for international honours again.


One thing football clubs seem very poor at doing is getting cash out of their extended fan base. How many people worldwide would claim some allegiance to Celtic. I'd say conservatively 10 million. If the club found some method of just getting 5 quid a year they'd have a hell of a transfer budget to compete at Champions League level. So I actually find it quite paradoxical that one of the biggest clubs in the world can't harness the cash from their extended fan base to compete for international honours.




Fluke Skywalker -> RE: Champions League 2008/2009 Thread (11/12/2008 12:57:34 PM)

There should be some serious collisions in the next round!

The best group winners : Man Utd, Bayern Munich, Roma, Barcelona, Liverpool, Juventus Vs the likes of Chelsea, Inter Milan, Arsenal and Real Madrid - considering our boys can't play each other there should be some killer matchups for English teams when the draw comes out.




The Lensman -> RE: Champions League 2008/2009 Thread (11/12/2008 1:02:13 PM)

Id love to get Real Madrid..... seeing them at Anfield, would be unreal.




Fluke Skywalker -> RE: Champions League 2008/2009 Thread (11/12/2008 1:21:20 PM)

Chelsea/ Arsenal vs Barcelona would be something I'd like to see - an end to end attack fest




Rhubarb -> RE: Champions League 2008/2009 Thread (11/12/2008 1:39:39 PM)

This might make you laugh

http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/crossing-the-line-from-innuendo-to-full-blown-perversion.html




matthewforan -> RE: Champions League 2008/2009 Thread (19/12/2008 11:15:09 AM)

Still lots of big names left some are bound to get out together




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