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Whistler -> RE: THE SLASHER MOVIE FAN CLUB (14/4/2013 10:21:12 PM)

I've been on a Friday The 13th binge this weekend. Watched the remake on Friday then then 1, 2, 3 and Final Chapter today and yesterday. I've never actually seen A New Beginning to Jason Takes Manhatten, so I'll look forward to watching them too over the coming days.

I'm not a huge fan of the first to be honest; it has it's moments but never quite gets going enough. #2 is an improvement, and #3 possibly even better still, even though it's filled with annoying, obnoxious 3D shots that don't work anymore. The Final Chapter is decent, helped by the presence of Corey Feldman and Crispin 'all-I-can-see-is-George-McFly' Glover [:D]




DEF -> RE: THE SLASHER MOVIE FAN CLUB (15/4/2013 11:53:51 AM)

Personally I LOVE the original with a passion but I could see why someone would be more into F13 part 2. Its pretty much the most perfectly paced slasher movie ever made. I do have to respectfully disagree with 3 being anywhere near as good as one 1 or 2 IMO. Don't get me wrong I like it but its a mess of a film in comparison. Particularly the awful copy cat coda. If Friday the 13th has the perfect example of a well executed coda jump scare then 3 is perfect example of screwing the same thing up.

Your in for a treat with the rest of the films. I won't lie they are easily my favourite franchise. The only film that I take serious issue with is Jason Goes to Hell. The rest are tremendous entertainment. Would be interested to hear your thoughts on Jason Takes Manhattan. It has its fair share of detractors but I think its great fun.

By the by, Netflix have most of them streaming in HD.




Mister Coe -> RE: THE SLASHER MOVIE FAN CLUB (15/4/2013 8:21:51 PM)

I loved the FT13 films as a much younger man... does anyone else remember how they weren't released on video after initial cinema releases, then came out in three-monthly intervals a couple of years after the awful Jamie Bulger thing had died down... or is that my memory playing up again?

The first, I will always love... saw it as a young teenager who hadn't seen much horror past the occasional Hammer film on BBC2 and when that arrow came through Kevin Bacons throat... I lost my shit. I watched it recently and I think it still stands up.

Haven't watched No 2 in many a year, but I seem to remember it being a lot less gory than the first one one... think I need another watch if it's as good as has been previously mentioned.

No 3, I did see quite recently and I don't get the love (sorry)... I found it quite tedious.

The Final Chapter is, for my money, the best of the lot. It's shot far more stylishly than other installments, the direction has a lot more tension and that last shot of Jason getting the machete in his face and slowly sliding down the blade... awesome.

A New Beginning... as a teenage boy, I think I liked it for the copious nudity, but I remember seeing stills from FANGORIA that promised huge gore, but most of it got cut out. Plus, it's not Jason doing the killing... nah, not having it.

I do quite like JASON LIVES. It's got the most humour of the series, there are some stylish moments, I had a big crush on Jennifer Cooke from V at the time and that closing Alice Cooper song 'He's Back; The Man Behind The Mask' is bloody brilliant.

After that, for me, it's the law of diminishing returns, not one of the subsequent films left a single memory in my head apart from JASON X... someone came up with the idea of 'Hey, it's Jason Voorhees... in SPACE!' That person earned their wages in those six words. I thought it was a great fun film.

As for the remake, please let none of us speak of it....

Those were my opinions, anyway...




Sleazy -> RE: THE SLASHER MOVIE FAN CLUB (16/4/2013 11:33:46 AM)

Wasnt it Childs Play 3 that was blamed for the Bulger murder?




HughesRoss -> RE: THE SLASHER MOVIE FAN CLUB (16/4/2013 11:37:01 AM)

Not banned!

Just removed by choice from those rented and sold videos.

It was never officially banned!  Just a film that was unfairly targeted by people who couldnt understand how kids could do such a horrific crime and so blamed something else....




Mister Coe -> RE: THE SLASHER MOVIE FAN CLUB (16/4/2013 9:25:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sleazy

Wasnt it Childs Play 3 that was blamed for the Bulger murder?


Forget my comments about the awful Bulger murder, that came a few years after, got my timeline a bit scrambled. Sorry. But I definately remember the FT13 movies being delayed for ages before being released on video...

And, as a FANGORIA reader in the 80's, I seem to remember that most of the films were cut to buggery before they could get the all-important R-rating in the US. There hasn't been any news on when the uncut versions might ever been released...




Whistler -> RE: THE SLASHER MOVIE FAN CLUB (24/4/2013 10:38:56 PM)

Okay, Friday The 13th update time. I'd say the franchise goes downhill a bit after Part 4, but there are still some great moments.

A New Beginning - It's fine. There's a real lack of a proper lead character, which I found quite off-putting. I know Tommy is technically the lead, but to be honest he's barely in it and I found him quite annoying. All he does it go around punching people. Some of the kills are good, though, and I liked the set-up.

Jason Lives - Really liked this one, loads of fun. It took the franchise in a slightly different direction from the 'teens go to a cabin to party' formula and had some great kills. This Tommy was also much more likable than in A New Beginning.

The New Blood - Poorly edited, poorly paced and poorly acted, but overall I enjoyed it enough. It picks up towards the second half, and the telekinesis angle is interesting and provides some good set-pieces.

Jason Takes Manhatten - Sorry DEF, have to disagree with you on this one. I like the idea but the deaths are rubbish and the acting is woeful. There's such a lack of urgency whenever someone's about to die, and it really drags on when they get to New York. The worst so far for me.

Still to watch Jason Goes To Hell, but after that I think I'll move onto A Nightmare On Elm street. I've seen them all but not for a long while, so I'll look forward to that.




Mister Coe -> RE: THE SLASHER MOVIE FAN CLUB (25/4/2013 2:37:44 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Whistler

Okay, Friday The 13th update time. I'd say the franchise goes downhill a bit after Part 4, but there are still some great moments.

A New Beginning - It's fine. There's a real lack of a proper lead character, which I found quite off-putting. I know Tommy is technically the lead, but to be honest he's barely in it and I found him quite annoying. All he does it go around punching people. Some of the kills are good, though, and I liked the set-up.

Jason Lives - Really liked this one, loads of fun. It took the franchise in a slightly different direction from the 'teens go to a cabin to party' formula and had some great kills. This Tommy was also much more likable than in A New Beginning.

The New Blood - Poorly edited, poorly paced and poorly acted, but overall I enjoyed it enough. It picks up towards the second half, and the telekinesis angle is interesting and provides some good set-pieces.

Jason Takes Manhatten - Sorry DEF, have to disagree with you on this one. I like the idea but the deaths are rubbish and the acting is woeful. There's such a lack of urgency whenever someone's about to die, and it really drags on when they get to New York. The worst so far for me.

Still to watch Jason Goes To Hell, but after that I think I'll move onto A Nightmare On Elm street. I've seen them all but not for a long while, so I'll look forward to that.


Don't forget JASON X!




Whistler -> RE: THE SLASHER MOVIE FAN CLUB (27/4/2013 8:14:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Mister Coe


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ORIGINAL: Whistler

Okay, Friday The 13th update time. I'd say the franchise goes downhill a bit after Part 4, but there are still some great moments.

A New Beginning - It's fine. There's a real lack of a proper lead character, which I found quite off-putting. I know Tommy is technically the lead, but to be honest he's barely in it and I found him quite annoying. All he does it go around punching people. Some of the kills are good, though, and I liked the set-up.

Jason Lives - Really liked this one, loads of fun. It took the franchise in a slightly different direction from the 'teens go to a cabin to party' formula and had some great kills. This Tommy was also much more likable than in A New Beginning.

The New Blood - Poorly edited, poorly paced and poorly acted, but overall I enjoyed it enough. It picks up towards the second half, and the telekinesis angle is interesting and provides some good set-pieces.

Jason Takes Manhatten - Sorry DEF, have to disagree with you on this one. I like the idea but the deaths are rubbish and the acting is woeful. There's such a lack of urgency whenever someone's about to die, and it really drags on when they get to New York. The worst so far for me.

Still to watch Jason Goes To Hell, but after that I think I'll move onto A Nightmare On Elm street. I've seen them all but not for a long while, so I'll look forward to that.


Don't forget JASON X!


What I mean is Jason Goes To Hell is the only one left I haven't seen...until now. And it was pants.




DEF -> RE: THE SLASHER MOVIE FAN CLUB (29/4/2013 2:56:16 PM)

Yeah Jason Goes to Hell is my least favourite by a long way. It's the only one that actively annoys me. To shed some light on the history of the cuts in the sequels. It's my understanding that the MPAA got a lot of stick from parents groups and the media in the US for letting Paramount release part 1 more or less uncut and subsequently were overly harsh on the sequels. I've heard that the original film elements were destroyed of the missing gore footage which is why the US special edition DVDs have VHS quality work print footage of the trimmed footage in the special features. Having said that I wouldn't put it past Paramount to just not have really looked for the footage in their vaults. They don't care for the franchise at all and are obviously embarrassed by it.




DEF -> RE: THE SLASHER MOVIE FAN CLUB (29/4/2013 11:09:37 PM)

Don't worry Whistler, like I said most aren't fans of Jason Takes Manhattan. I'm well in the minority. Jason X is awesome though and everyone should love it. [:D]

I've been meaning to post mu thoughts on a trio I've seen in the last couple of weeks.

I watched the French BD of The Stepfather remake the other day. Pretty underwhelming PG-13 fare really. A tad dull and the ending never really got going like it does in the original. Practically gore-less kills to. Definitely the kind of Slasher film that the Producers and Execs have all repeatedly pretended is a 'Thriller' in meetings. :D Amber Heard fans should give it a go though. Still I didn't hate it or anything, it's just forgettable and never really makes an impact. Haven't got round to the Special features yet.

4 uniformly sharpened pencils out of 10.

On the other hand I watched the German BD of the frankly remarkable Swedish slasher Blood Runs Cold as well and I highly recommend it. It was shot on the equivalent of 5 Thousand US Dollars and for the money it looks stunning. Not only that but I thought the editing was top notch whilst I'm at.

As a film its just a simple slasher nothing more and nothing less executed by and large with style and panache. It does a good job of cranking up the tension for the most part, delivers on the kills and the characters were quite likeable. Cool looking killer to.

I have minor quibbles with ending but overall certainly one of my favourite low budget slashers in ages. Not much in the way of extras on the BD other than a short but interesting behind the scenes making of, the trailer and I think a commentary (but could be wrong).

7 dodgy houses for a pop star to stay in out of 10.

Last but not least I watched British yoof slasher Comedown on UK BD. It's from the Director of Kidulthood if that means anything (I've not seen it) and proudly has a sticker on the cover claiming its Kidulthood meets SAW. Thankfully its more like presumably Kidulthood meets any old low budget slasher.

The characters are far less likeable in this one but its intentional and I didn't hate all of them so it's forgiven. It's main issue is it takes to long to get going on the slasher end of things and as I said they aren't the most likeable bunch. The killer is well set up but has a bit of a bland look. They do a good job of not overexposing him though.

Again I haven't watched the extras yet but the BD's picture quality wavers between quite nice and more than a bit dodgy but that could be the overly processed look of the low budget film rather than any fault of the disc. There's a couple of cool kills. One in particular stands out involving HIGHLIGHT FOR SPOILER :by far the most reprehensible and unlike-able character in the film and a nail gun.SPOILER

5 pigeons out of 10




Mister Coe -> RE: THE SLASHER MOVIE FAN CLUB (29/4/2013 11:20:40 PM)

DEF, I refuse to watch the remake of THE STEPFATHER ... why watch a kiddie-friendly remake of an 80's classic when you can watch Terry O'Quinn in his finest performance... seriously, why would anyone do that?




DEF -> RE: THE SLASHER MOVIE FAN CLUB (29/4/2013 11:36:25 PM)

I'll give anything a go just to let it prove me wrong. The Stepfather remake was pretty much exactly what I was expecting. It's still on the creepy side and really isn't an out and out stinker. Just very dull and average and particularly safe when it comes to the kills. I'm not the biggest fan of the original myself. I like it a lot but don't love it. It's not exactly an out and out slasher blood bath it's self and I'd say the remake does well in trying to stick to the tone of the original. I'll say this for the remake, the music is better.

EDIT - Completely agree about Terry O'Quinn he's fantastic in it.

EDIT 2 - The actual reason I got it was a mate watched it recently and said it was pretty rubbish but definitely a slasher movie. Strange motivation I know but it worked.




Mister Coe -> RE: THE SLASHER MOVIE FAN CLUB (30/4/2013 10:29:34 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DEF

I'll give anything a go just to let it prove me wrong. The Stepfather remake was pretty much exactly what I was expecting. It's still on the creepy side and really isn't an out and out stinker. Just very dull and average and particularly safe when it comes to the kills. I'm not the biggest fan of the original myself. I like it a lot but don't love it. It's not exactly an out and out slasher blood bath it's self and I'd say the remake does well in trying to stick to the tone of the original. I'll say this for the remake, the music is better.

EDIT - Completely agree about Terry O'Quinn he's fantastic in it.

EDIT 2 - The actual reason I got it was a mate watched it recently and said it was pretty rubbish but definitely a slasher movie. Strange motivation I know but it worked.


Aw, DEF, you're too reasonable...

[:D]




DEF -> RE: THE SLASHER MOVIE FAN CLUB (1/5/2013 8:47:43 PM)

Yeah its a curse what can I say. [:D]

So here's something I don't find reasonable. The Collection came out here Monday and as I feared it appears like there's no UK Blu-ray. I emailed the company putting the film out a couple weeks back and heard nothing back. Frankly its rather irritating that I seem to have to import bigger new slasher titles. I can understand random catalogue titles and low budget slashers that might only get picked up in one random territory but something like The Collection is a highly anticipated sequel and is getting a near enough simultaneous Blu release in the US, Germany, Australia, Taiwan and Russia at present. It should be a given that the UK gets it to but no we have to make do with a DVD covered in stars and quotes on the cover. Not cricket.




DEF -> RE: THE SLASHER MOVIE FAN CLUB (2/5/2013 12:10:19 PM)

Is the 80's movie Prison that Scream Factory released recently in the states a slasher movie? I was under the impression it wasn't but I just read someone refer to it as a supernatural slasher. If I'd known I'd be all over it.




lmaricar47 -> RE: THE SLASHER MOVIE FAN CLUB (2/5/2013 5:19:26 PM)

i seriously love scream, and final destination is you consider it as a slasher film..




Mister Coe -> RE: THE SLASHER MOVIE FAN CLUB (5/5/2013 8:08:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DEF

Is the 80's movie Prison that Scream Factory released recently in the states a slasher movie? I was under the impression it wasn't but I just read someone refer to it as a supernatural slasher. If I'd known I'd be all over it.


DEF, I haven't seen PRISON in many a year but slasher or not, I remember it as being well worth a look. Wasn't it directed by Renny Harlin (spelling?) So, an eighties horror from the guy who directed THE LAST KISS GOODNIGHT? Dunno about you, I'm getting straight on the 'net!

Let me know if you get to it before I do, I suspect this is well worth a watch...




DEF -> RE: THE SLASHER MOVIE FAN CLUB (6/5/2013 8:39:12 PM)

Yeah it was on my list of acquisitions anyway. Thing is if its a slasher then it gets bumped up the list to priority No'1.

Any of you guys seen The Collection yet? Please no spoilers I'm just wondering if its in the same league as The collector.




DONOVAN KURTWOOD -> RE: THE SLASHER MOVIE FAN CLUB (7/5/2013 10:39:37 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DEF

Yeah it was on my list of acquisitions anyway. Thing is if its a slasher then it gets bumped up the list to priority No'1.

Any of you guys seen The Collection yet? Please no spoilers I'm just wondering if its in the same league as The collector.



The short answer is no, it's not nearly in the same league. I wont spoil it for you, but it's not as good as the first bny a long shot. That's not to say it's a waste of time, it's not and it's actually very entertaining. Problem is it is absolutely ridiculous and very over the top. Also elements are introduced that make me wonder if Dunstan wanted to cover as many horror tropes as he could in one go and the movie loses its focus.

I picked up the DVD yesterday as there's no UK blu. I had the intention of picking up the US blu down the line, although i probably wont bother now and will just stick with the DVD.

The gore is great and Dunstan still has a cool visual style.




DEF -> RE: THE SLASHER MOVIE FAN CLUB (9/5/2013 9:12:16 PM)

As Hercules would say DISAPPOINTED! Still though I'll get a BD from somewhere eventually.




DONOVAN KURTWOOD -> RE: THE SLASHER MOVIE FAN CLUB (9/5/2013 10:24:52 PM)

did you watch it Def? I would be interested to hear your thoughts




DEF -> RE: THE SLASHER MOVIE FAN CLUB (10/5/2013 5:11:09 PM)

No mate haven't seen it yet. To be honest I'm still a bit miffed eone decided not put out a UK BD so that I have to import it. Had I been able to walk into Sainsburys and pick it up on release day like I should have been able to I'd have snapped it up in a second. As it is it's gone down the priority's list what with Scream factory releasing The Town That dreaded Sundown and The Burning this month in the US.




Sleazy -> RE: THE SLASHER MOVIE FAN CLUB (13/5/2013 1:08:54 PM)

We had a horror-thon on Saturday night. The Missus and I had to both buy 3 movies each from the 3 for a Fiver horror section in Thats Entertainment and see who got the best films (only other criteria was we hadnt seen them). The results?

Myself:

R.S.V.P - a nifty looking teen slasher starring Jason Mewes about a party where all the guests are slaughtered by the host sounded great - until I tried to watch it and realised the dozy bint in the shop had put the wrong disc in the case, I ended up with an 80s softy core porno from Playboy called R.S.V.P.

Roommate - looked decent, well made and decently acted "Single White Female" clone, not really a horror though.

Steel Trap - an ok slasher where guests at a party at the top of a office block recieve an anonymous text inviting them to a private party on a disused floor. each of them is then bumped off in a way that describes their characters failings. Iffy acting and a stupid twist but watchable nonsense.

Mrs Sleazy:

Scream of the Banshee - a SyFy channel movie released on After Dark. Not terrible I guess but not in the least scary. Lance Henrikson and Lauren Holly star. Instantly forgettable take of a banshees head locked away for hundreds of years that comes alive and kills you if you scream (or something).

Strange things happen at sundown - a no budget vampire flick with the twist of the vamps all being NY italian goodfellas. Looks like it was shot on a mobile phone, unexplained vamps running around in broad daylight too. Looked like it could be fun but the non-existant production values forced us to turn it off after 30 mins.

Rott Weiler - a Spanish movie (in English) set in the near future about an escaped prisoner looking for his lost love whilst being pursued by a robotically enhanced rottweiler. Think Terminator in doggy form. Not the worst film ever and almost makes it into the so bad its fun catagory.



So I dont know which of us "won" but I'm pretty sure we both lost.




DEF -> RE: THE SLASHER MOVIE FAN CLUB (13/5/2013 4:57:43 PM)

Rott Weiler sounds like its a good chuckle. Might keep an eye out for that. If you do eventually get RSVP let us know if its any good mate.

I've finally got round to pre ordering The Burning. It's due for release next week in the US on Blu from Scream Factory. I can't freaking wait. I've been waiting a long ass time to see this bad boy and nearly gave in several times. I was dangerous close to watching it on netflix or ordering the DVD on more than one occasion. Thankfully my patience has paid off. Not only is it out on Blu with a great looking bundle of extras but its getting 4/5 star reviews for picture quality.

I watched Cat O' Nine Tails last night from the good people of Arrow Video. I'm sure I'm the last one to see this so I won't say much other than compared to Argento's other films it borders on quaint. There's and awful lot of waffle and the kills arn't really anything special. I doubt I'll watch it very often as it's not in the league of Deep Red, Suspiria, Inferno, Phenomena or The Bird With the Crystal Plumage. That said its worth a watch. The Blu is not great but I've heard there's not much improvement on the US Blue Underground version in the picture stakes. The extras were a handful of quite good 8-25min interviews and a trailer. A solid selection but not earth shattering.

5 people at least were on that platform as well out of 10




Mister Coe -> RE: THE SLASHER MOVIE FAN CLUB (13/5/2013 8:27:16 PM)

Totally agree with you, DEF, 'Cat 'O' Nine Tails' is a decent enough watch but not an Argento classic. It's like watching a director finding his feet as a film-maker.




Discodez -> RE: THE SLASHER MOVIE FAN CLUB (14/5/2013 2:03:09 PM)

Agree on "Cat O' Nine Tails" not the best of Argento's Giallos but certainly an interesting watch in the cannon as you can see the development of his style over the course of the "animal" trilogy.

Whilst were here in the slasher thread I watched Scarecrow the other night for the first time, and though by no means a classic it was certainly good fun, what are peoples views on the sequels, worth a look?




DEF -> RE: THE SLASHER MOVIE FAN CLUB (15/5/2013 10:47:56 AM)

Just in case you guys haven't seen the news elsewhere, the Friday the 13th retrospective documentary Crystal Lake Memories has been given a release date of August 27th in the US and will be exclusively on Blu-ray. Why not on DVD? cos its a mammoth 7hrs long! This is going to a heck of a documentary.

Any of you seen Never Sleep Again 2? It as good as the first?

Motel Hell is out next week. Is it much of a slasher? I'm thinking of getting it straight away but only if its a proper slasher.




Whistler -> RE: THE SLASHER MOVIE FAN CLUB (15/5/2013 5:21:20 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DEF

Motel Hell is out next week. Is it much of a slasher? I'm thinking of getting it straight away but only if its a proper slasher.


I wouldn't call it a slasher myself. There are certainly elements of that, but it's more of a quirky comedy/horror.




DONOVAN KURTWOOD -> RE: THE SLASHER MOVIE FAN CLUB (15/5/2013 7:21:26 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DEF

Just in case you guys haven't seen the news elsewhere, the Friday the 13th retrospective documentary Crystal Lake Memories has been given a release date of August 27th in the US and will be exclusively on Blu-ray. Why not on DVD? cos its a mammoth 7hrs long! This is going to a heck of a documentary.

Any of you seen Never Sleep Again 2? It as good as the first?

Motel Hell is out next week. Is it much of a slasher? I'm thinking of getting it straight away but only if its a proper slasher.


Holy crap, 7 hours long!! That's amazing! I really want to see it!




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