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bentherock -> RE: The 50 Greatest Comic Book Characters (23/7/2008 10:17:54 AM)

Im with you all the way on deaths head.
He had a wonderful dry sense of humour & his laid back approach to dealing with rogues make him as cool as.
I think he would make a fantastic movie with possibly ron perlman or kurt russell in the lead!!!

"I HAVEN'T GOT TIME FOR THIS MICKEY MOUSE BULLSHIT!!!!!"




Bill Murray -> RE: The 50 Greatest Comic Book Characters (23/7/2008 2:12:39 PM)

complete crap list. Spiderman or batman should be no.1. Superman is the dullest most simple superhero ever and characters like doc ock, joker, and other villians should be higher.




talltom -> RE: The 50 Greatest Comic Book Characters (24/7/2008 2:17:59 PM)

What?  No Silver Surfer?  He was the only thing that made the last FF film bearable!  Ghost Rider also notable by his absence - perhaps the movie adaptation shamed him more than we realised....




FranB23 -> RE: The 50 Greatest Comic Book Characters (25/7/2008 1:38:19 AM)

Superman No 1????????????? What the hell is wrong with you people

When Empire does it's top ten it alway lays out the criteria for it's selections. Why not here?  

Is it best character? Then Superman would never be number 1
Most Popular? For all those banging there keyboards about how much Superman means to people and how iconic he is. Spiderman and Batman have out sold him for years on average at a rate of 3 to 1. That to me would suggest they are far more popular. No?

There Movies are far Superior too(5 Stars from Empire was a disgrace for Supes last outing).

Would have liking to see Thanos, Galactus or the Surfer in there. 




GreatEmperorKuzko -> RE: The 50 Greatest Comic Book Characters (25/7/2008 7:35:21 PM)

What about Fone Bone? or Smiley Bone? Anybody read the awesome Bone comics?




matty1 -> RE: The 50 Greatest Comic Book Characters (25/7/2008 10:48:33 PM)

spiderman an batman av sold more than superman. but if the list when by sales x-men would easily b no.1 wit around 500 million sold. in terms of box office it would b spiderman. although that might change with the release of the dark knight, which is breaing box office records left right an center




KiplingKat -> RE: The 50 Greatest Comic Book Characters (26/7/2008 3:43:15 PM)

Very nice list. Much better than the one Wizard put out a few months ago (which was so popularity driven that Wolverine landed in the top spot). Love the high placement of Morpheus. Very underrated as a character as it was his dysfunctions that subtlety drove the Sandman series forward. Probably would swap Spider Man and Wolverine places myself.

Love the fact Magneto is up there in the #9 spot, as a character creation in the superhero world, he is unique in his emotional realism and the analogies he presents to the real world. (And please ignore Uncanny #500.) Just a couple corrections on the Magneto entry: He did not have a relationship with Rogue in the mainstream Marvel Universe. That was just in an alternate universe story: Age of Apocalypse. In the mainstream comics, Magneto and Rogue never even exchanged words on panel while he was living at the X-Mansion. Magneto also never led the X-Men. He was an X-Man of Storm's team and he was Headmaster of the New Mutants.

To those who feel that Supes doesn't deserve the #1 spot, we wouldn't have superhero comics if not for him.




Slinkson -> RE: The 50 Greatest Comic Book Characters (26/7/2008 4:23:03 PM)

Superman does no way deserve to be number 1 in this list , if it was a list of Iconic comic characters then maybe but just cause he was one of he first does not make him the greatest , he is so stuck in the 1940s he should be Retro Man .
I really do think there ae much better Heroes and Heroines out there much better developed and rounded characters I find Supes can be very boring at times . 




sanchia -> RE: The 50 Greatest Comic Book Characters (26/7/2008 6:31:49 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Slinkson

Superman does no way deserve to be number 1 in this list , if it was a list of Iconic comic characters then maybe but just cause he was one of he first does not make him the greatest , he is so stuck in the 1940s he should be Retro Man .
I really do think there ae much better Heroes and Heroines out there much better developed and rounded characters I find Supes can be very boring at times . 


Retro Man died in issue 17 of JLA in 1998 [sm=whistle.gif]

No argument that Superman isn't the best.




Craig1984 -> RE: The 50 Greatest Comic Book Characters (27/7/2008 1:18:13 PM)

where was wolverine?




Seth_Gecko -> RE: The 50 Greatest Comic Book Characters (30/7/2008 9:22:16 AM)

There was some strange choices in that list where was two face ,the green goblin , the kingpin, cat woman. Constantine in the top 5 very strange. 




visuallynoisy -> RE: The 50 Greatest Comic Book Characters (1/8/2008 3:39:04 AM)

wheres gambit ffs




Gwynbleidd -> RE: The 50 Greatest Comic Book Characters (1/8/2008 2:16:01 PM)

Where is:

-Thor
-Blade
-Iceman
-Flash
-Silver Surfer
-Ghost Rider
-War Machine
-Apocalypse
-Beast
-Gambit
-Colossus
-Professor X
-Cyclops
-Human Torch
-Mr. Fantastic
-Jean Grey/ Dark Phoenix
-Rogue
-Nightcrawler
-Mystique




Why_So_Serious -> RE: The 50 Greatest Comic Book Characters (1/8/2008 8:51:38 PM)

No Dr Charles Xavier!? and spawn at number 50!!? Whats goin on here guys,




jacquez -> RE: The 50 Greatest Comic Book Characters (1/8/2008 11:58:20 PM)

Oh, come now, Empire! Couldn't you have found any other picture for the Apollo & the Midnighter entry? "Why, what image could we use to go with this text we have written about this loving couple? I know! A picture where one of them is having his face smashed in by the other! Wonderful!"




ewelementwf -> RE: The 50 Greatest Comic Book Characters (3/8/2008 5:40:54 AM)

ummmm... what about spider jerusalem??? how could the iconic star of transmet not make the list???




Guinevere -> RE: The 50 Greatest Comic Book Characters (3/8/2008 9:42:22 AM)

No way! As if you can have a valid list of comic characters without Gambit! And I know he's a bit new but Yorick! I think Empire may not be keeping up to date with their graphic novels! However that can't explain the shocking lack of V! Tut tut Empire, tut tut 




ayaryura -> RE: The 50 Greatest Comic Book Characters (3/8/2008 5:01:23 PM)

Superman IS and always will be NUMBER ONE!!! Congrats to Empire for endorsing what, at this moment in time, is not a minstream popular notion...




the0distance -> RE: The 50 Greatest Comic Book Characters (4/8/2008 1:23:26 AM)

What about Shadowhawk???
Paul received medical confirmation that he was HIV positive and he descended into a depression. While walking the streets to clear his head Paul was threatened by a group of young gang-members. He went berserk and attacked them, leading to his brutal mugging and return to the hospital. During this time he resolved that he would use the rest of his time to dispense justice to the individuals who preyed on innocent victims. One of his friends, a cop named Christina Reid (who had been kicked off the force that day for use of excessive force), was also in the hospital and came to visit him. She informed Paul that she and a man named Carlton Sun had been developing an exo-skeleton suit of armor that could help aid him in accomplishing this task.

Johnstone decided to don the suit, christening himself "ShadowHawk" after his favourite superhero (a name that would eventually lure out the psychotic and racist villain Hawk's Shadow, who believed he was the one entitled to bear the mantle of ShadowHawk), and was taught how to fight effectively with the help of Christine, promising to "take back the night". Johnstone also kept the pills needed to slow his reaction to his HIV infection in small pouches on his belt so he could take them as needed.


And as for Joker's alias:

Alter ego: Unknown
Notable aliases: The Clown Prince of Crime, Red Hood, Jack, Joseph "Joe" Kerr, Clem Rusty, Mr. Rekoj




dizcostu007 -> RE: The 50 Greatest Comic Book Characters (4/8/2008 8:00:15 PM)

Where is Apocalypse? Jesse cutter and constatine, but no Apocalypse. Emma Frost as well, what is going on. I think Empire is trying to look knowledgeable by being as obscure as possible. Clev-errrrrrrrrrrrrr!




Fonz -> RE: The 50 Greatest Comic Book Characters (6/8/2008 2:36:46 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ayaryura

Superman IS and always will be NUMBER ONE!!! 


In terms of being a recognisable icon in the public consciousness then yeah, I think there's not many people who'd disagree with you. But as a character? No way. This boy scout with practically unlimited power and virtually no flaws is as one dimensional as they come. The only thing of note that the character has done over the last 20 years is die, and how long did that last? No, Spidey or Batman should've been no 1.




mkimber -> RE: The 50 Greatest Comic Book Characters (6/8/2008 10:30:00 PM)

Yes a number of people above mention Deaths Head - Simon Furmans amazing robotic freelance peacekeeping agent would make for one hell of a movie - although you'd need a new story (neo-nazi thugs anyone?)

Also missing from the list is Thanos who became a god in the Marvel universe on more than one occasion in the Infinity Wars series's




Miso_Jace -> RE: The 50 Greatest Comic Book Characters (6/8/2008 10:52:04 PM)

Glad to see my favourite, Marv, and also brilliant that Harvey Pekar, Death, Dream and Vladek Spiegelman were in there too!




NotWarren -> RE: The 50 Greatest Comic Book Characters (7/8/2008 9:06:26 PM)

erm.....anyone?

Savage Dragon
Captain America
Gambit
Storm
Black Panther


just wonderin' oh yeah and I agree Superman as number one?.....nah man, give me Spidey any day of the week!




michaelqb -> RE: The 50 Greatest Comic Book Characters (8/8/2008 12:13:12 PM)

quote:
ORIGINAL: Fonz
quote:

ORIGINAL: ayaryura

Superman IS and always will be NUMBER ONE!!! 



In terms of being a recognisable icon in the public consciousness then yeah, I think there's not many people who'd disagree with you. But as a character? No way. This boy scout with practically unlimited power and virtually no flaws is as one dimensional as they come. The only thing of note that the character has done over the last 20 years is die, and how long did that last? No, Spidey or Batman should've been no 1.





I'm not going to argue that Superman is complex... but perhaps it is the pure simplicitity of the concept.. that is so appealing and makes Superman the greatest ever comic character.

Complex rarely means better and is usually more unreliable

(I am ofcourse assuming that Homer Simpson is not allowed)




danielthompson99 -> RE: The 50 Greatest Comic Book Characters (9/8/2008 12:50:03 PM)

Where's Calvin,(and Hobbes) and Charlie Brown? Lots of names very high up I have never heard of. Very surprised to see Jenny Sparks in there and yet Storm, Mystique, Jean Grey,(hubba hubba) or Zealot were not mentioned. Funny how we get Wolverine but not Cyclops, who pre-dated Logan by a good decade or two. Think the compiler of this list may have a thing for Garth Ennis and Alan Moore.

Aaaaaaaaaaaand. . . .why Stronty before Rogue Trooper?!?!?!

+ isn't there a Star Wars comic, lol!




Fonz -> RE: The 50 Greatest Comic Book Characters (10/8/2008 4:23:46 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: michaelqb


I'm not going to argue that Superman is complex... but perhaps it is the pure simplicitity of the concept.. that is so appealing and makes Superman the greatest ever comic character.

Complex rarely means better and is usually more unreliable

(I am ofcourse assuming that Homer Simpson is not allowed)


I'm not arguing that Batman or Spiderman are complex either, because I don't think that they especially are. But what they are at least, and what Superman isn't, is interesting. Superman is just dull. He's an invulnerable powerhouse who can do literally almost anything and has no moralistic shades of grey at all. How mindnumbingly boring is that?

Plus he wears his undies on the outside, and has friends so thick that just wearing a pair of spectacles is an impenetrable disguise. [;)]




skinfreak -> RE: The 50 Greatest Comic Book Characters (10/8/2008 9:10:51 PM)

Jesus TF Christ...Superman at number one? Which idiot thought that was right? Reading the comments I am not alone thank God.

Superman is a god damned alien who can sod off back to space. We'll stick with out mutants, psychics and all-round billionaire nut jobs. They have far more character than the dull, boring and drab Man of Steel.

I will laugh a thousand times if Superman Returns 2 is any good and I doubt it. These days we need a bit more gritin our superhero flicks than the black and white good and evil painted by Mr Singer. Didn't he learn from X-Men?

Batman should be number one, Sipdey second...and then Wolverine can tussle with John Constantine after that.

And DanielThompson99 is spot on - Ennis and Moore lovin this list turned out to be.




scpetit -> RE: The 50 Greatest Comic Book Characters (12/8/2008 2:55:19 PM)

Eric Draven (The Crow)
Groo The Conquerer




hoeech -> RE: The 50 Greatest Comic Book Characters (12/8/2008 4:32:02 PM)

An interesting list.  A little too "indy" oriented for my taste (no Black Adam...shameful).  However, I'd like to know who were the 1200 or so knuckleheads who voted that Superman should be HIGHER on the list?  He's already NUMBER 1!  How much higher can he get? [8D]




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