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great_badir -> RE: great_badir's New improved list! (14/10/2009 1:09:27 PM)

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Hot Rod, Akiva Schaeffer (2007)

The old axiom goes that Saturday Night Live spin-off flicks are, by and large, terrible.  There are actually dozens of SNL films, far more than people realise, and most of them (like Harlem Nights) only loosely related to the SNL stable, where only creative, technical and financial talent is shared.  Some of them (like The Blues Brothers) are SNL sketches writ large.  Unfortunately, most in both categories really are rubbish - for every Blues Brothers there's a, well, Harlem Nights.  A rough count further suggests that for every Blues Brothers, there are actually two Harlem Nights.  These days it's probably three.  The affliction has got so bad that, since 2000's The Ladies Man, all SNL films (regardless of whether they were directly or loosely related) have not carried any form of major SNL backing or promotion, presumably to try and stop poor box office having an adverse affect on the show itself, as happened with Night at the Roxbury and Superstar.

There's a second, even older, axiom that goes SNL (the show) dipped in quality following Eddie Murphy's departure and never really recovered, getting ever worse with each subsequent line-up, save for a slight upward blip or particularly good cast member every few years (check out the complete list of SNL players on Wikipedia and compare the number of proper famous types you remember, with the number of "who the hell were/are they?" types).  The current line-up is one of the few where both criticism and praise are roughly split down the middle - there's no obvious break-out star like Chevy Chase, Bill Murray, John Belushi, Eddie Murphy or Will Ferrell (though why on earth people think the latter is a comedy genius is beyond me).  There are no really memorable characters (even Jimmy "kiss-of-death" Fallon managed a couple of stand-outs).  Far too many of the sketches fall flat on their face (the promises-great-things-but-sadly-doesn't-deliver Walken Family Reunion sketch, for example).  Yet there's no denying the group as a whole are talented, which explains why all of them pop up (usually as supporting actors) in pretty much every mid-range to major American comedy film of the last few years.  Which, by way of a probably overlong introduction, brings me onto Hot Rod.

By all rights and initial indications, Hot Rod would have been yet another Harlem Nights - an also-ran SNL support cast, Will Ferrell starring, writing and producing (so a potential repeat of the dreadful and laugh free Talladega Nights and criminally over-rated Anchorman) and an untested director.  The end result still had the also-ran cast and untested director, but with Ferrell out of the picture and, most crucially, his original script (which no doubt largely formed Talladega Nights) essentially binned, things started to look better for Hot Rod.  The cast was beefed up with more SNL alumni, all of whom contributed to the script, and Pam Brady (fresh from a long writing partnership with Trey Parker and Matt Stone) took over lead writing duties.  And so it was that Hot Rod got good.

It came with no expectations other than probably being shit, so when you see, in the first two minutes, Rod Kimble attempt a jump on his rubbish pedal motorbike before ending up on the concrete, vomiting from injuries, there's a little hallelujah moment.  Yes it's stupid, yes it's similar to all the other modern smart-ass comedies that usually feature Seth Rogen (not featured here) and yes the most famous people in it are Sissy Spacek and Lovejoy.  But it's quotable, often relentless, culty (in a good way) and also features one of the best comedy falls in cinema history.  And, gosh darn it, it's a feel-good heart warmer.  Although it is still considered by many as a bit of a hound, the constantly growing fan base proves something about the film works.  Perhaps it's the lack of expectation that surrounded it (think back to Deuce Bigelow, Male Gigolo - a Rob Schneider film everyone assumed would be terrible, but amazingly turned out to be good).  Perhaps it's the unusually high quota of in-jokery and obscure references to long forgotten films and music that only complete nerds would pick up on.  Whatever it is it's good.

Cool beans?  Cool beans.




DCMaximo -> RE: great_badir's New improved list! (15/10/2009 9:42:54 AM)

Great to see Keeping The Faith on this list, I always liked how Edward Norton, fresh off American History X and Fight Club, made his directorial debut with a distinctly old-fashioned, charming rom-com. I like the fact that there isn't any lowest common denominator gross-out stuff to give it an "edge" and it's simply sweet and intelligently funny.




great_badir -> RE: great_badir's New improved list! (15/10/2009 1:33:59 PM)

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Wake In Fright, Ted Kotcheff (1971)

Film is dying.  Sad fact.  Oh, I don't mean it in the sense of the endless hoary old "films are rubbish these days" argument.  I mean the celluloid itself.  The raw materials get more expensive as time passes, as does the manufacturing and processing, the embedded carbon footprint is relatively large and it just takes up too much physical room in storage.  Factor in the care and further expense of looking after that celluloid when its done the big screen rounds and you have an item with quickly diminishing returns, until it starts costing a fortune just having the stuff lying around doing nothing.  Eventually, probably within the lifetimes of most members of this forum, the last celluloid film will take a bow.  It'll probably be made by Steven Spielberg - he's been squirreling away as much film as he can for the last ten or so years, planning to make a very special non-digital film.  A shout back to "the good ol' days".  And just as celluloid is dying, so are some films.  Every time an old, independent or small picture house closes, most of the film reels in stock head for the incinerator.  Likewise with bankrupt video distributors, studios and TV networks.  Films WILL disappear, never to be seen again.  Most of them will be rubbish and it'll be no great loss to cinema history.  But some of them will be good films.  Fewer still will be great films.  One or two will be masterpieces.  Think of it - The Godfather.  Gone, never to be seen again, in any form.  Blade Runner.  Gone.  Citizen Kane.  Gone (not that this one would bother me, but just to illustrate the point).  All we'll have to remember them is the foggy memories of someone who saw it at the cinema forty years ago.  And that's very nearly what happened with Ted Kotcheff's Wake In Fright.

Yes, the director of Switching Channels, The Red Shoe Diaries 3 and 5, Uncommon Valour, Family of Cops and (shudder) Weekend at fucking Bernie's made a genuine, five alarm masterpiece.  And the last known useable reels were literally on their way to destruction.  A masterpiece in ashes.  The first (and only) time I caught this was on a beaten and worn betamax rental, itself probably transferred from some ancient TV recording, in the early 90s.  It's a filthy, depressing and downright ugly tale of a teacher destined for not great things when dumped in a miserable Australian outback town in the middle of nowhere, on the way to a new teaching job.  He falls in with the wrong crowd, loses all his money, becomes an alcoholic, nearly gets raped by an alcoholic doctor played by Donald Pleasance, and ends up on a drunken kangaroo hunt, kneeled on the ground brutalising a defenceless 'roo.  Drink features a lot, and it's not for the faint of heart or weak of stomach.  But, jesus christ, it's absolutely jaw droppingly brilliant.

From the stark cinematography (think Mad Max 2), the layered script and scarily real performances, Kotcheff (a Canadian) stumped up one of THE best, most realistic Aussie films of all time.  There really is nothing else like Wake In Fright in existence.  People frequently compare it to the other great outback film, Walkabout.  But Wake In Fright pretty much pisses all over it with it's beer stink.  Frankly, Walkabout doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath.  And I think Walkabout is itself a great film.  Wake In Fright is the bastard child of many disparate parents - Canadian director, US demand, British money, "big name" English actor, made for television, next to no budget, on the fly writing and filming and a subject matter (including footage of a genuine kangaroo cull) that no TV station or mainstream cinema at the time would touch with a bargepole.  Small wonder that it practically disappeared within three years of release with one token award under its belt.

Few films have stuck in my mind like Wake In Fright - it's been nearly twenty years since I saw it and I can still vividly recall most of it, it's that affecting.  It really feels like a documentary.  Not that it's shot like one ('roo cull aside, you're never under any illusion that it's anything other than a story), but everything is so damned convincing it's like the Maysles brothers parachuted into some dusty ghost town filled with lunatics and just let their cameras roll.  And then there's that kangaroo hunt.  A real cull was filmed (not specifically for the film - they just happened to be in town during the culling season) and used as a backdrop for the main character's descent into his own hell, if one were needed, but it's never exploitative in the way that similar scenes in any number of 80s Italian horror films are.  It's simply (without wanting to simplify it, or the rest of the film) another summary part that sticks the unwitting audient right into the mire of what is happening to the main character.

Fortunately, as the story has a (sort of, as far as I remember) happy ending, so does the celluloid itself.  The last remaining useable reels of Wake In Fright were fairly recently discovered in the basement of a not long defunct TV station, marked up for destruction.  It so nearly became the stuff of memories, or "showcased" on TV in some dreadful looking pan and scan edited nightmare.  Rescued, cleaned up and totally remastered, the film (having already had it's long overdue big screen curtain call) is getting ready for it's DVD debut next month.  I personally can't wait and I urge every single film fan to seek it out, watch it, take it in and wallow in the brilliance.       




Pigeon Army -> RE: great_badir's New improved list! (15/10/2009 1:43:53 PM)

Interesting you should mention Wake in Fright - the new print was showing at the New Zealand International Film Festival a few months ago, and I had the opportunity to see it, but I saw Camino and Mother instead, and I don't regret making that call. I hope to see this at some point, though.

And Hot Rod's fantastic. "What happened back there?" "I dunno. It started off all super-positive and then it just got crazy."

Coooooooool beeeeeeaaaaaans.




Gimli The Dwarf -> RE: great_badir's New improved list! (16/10/2009 2:16:26 AM)

It's good to see this thread back. I don't think I ever posted in here but it pointed me in the direction of quite a few films I hadn't seen. It was something of a trendsetter as well, being one of the first lists in here to have proper reviews.





great_badir -> RE: great_badir's New improved list! (16/10/2009 8:09:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DCMaximo
Great to see Keeping The Faith on this list, I always liked how Edward Norton, fresh off American History X and Fight Club, made his directorial debut with a distinctly old-fashioned, charming rom-com. I like the fact that there isn't any lowest common denominator gross-out stuff to give it an "edge" and it's simply sweet and intelligently funny.


Agreed.  I hate to use the phrase, and I do mean it in a good way, but old fashioned springs to mind.  Weirdly, at the same time, it's almost completely unique in the genre given that it's a very mature piece of work.


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ORIGINAL: Pigeon Army
Interesting you should mention Wake in Fright - the new print was showing at the New Zealand International Film Festival a few months ago, and I had the opportunity to see it, but I saw Camino and Mother instead, and I don't regret making that call. I hope to see this at some point, though.

And Hot Rod's fantastic. "What happened back there?" "I dunno. It started off all super-positive and then it just got crazy."

Coooooooool beeeeeeaaaaaans.


Can't say I've heard of Camino.  And which Mother?  Albert Brooks?  I'm guessing not and both are NZ films?  But yeah - do see Wake In Fright if you ever get the chance.


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ORIGINAL: Gimli The Dwarf
It's good to see this thread back. I don't think I ever posted in here but it pointed me in the direction of quite a few films I hadn't seen. It was something of a trendsetter as well, being one of the first lists in here to have proper reviews.


Thanks.  I've been meaning to inject some life back into this (and my Box Office Bombs thread, still thinking about that) for ages, but shit happens etc. 

And - fifty seven thousand posts?!?!?!?!  Jeebus, where do you find the time??




Pigeon Army -> RE: great_badir's New improved list! (16/10/2009 9:18:49 AM)

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ORIGINAL: great_badir
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ORIGINAL: Pigeon Army
Interesting you should mention Wake in Fright - the new print was showing at the New Zealand International Film Festival a few months ago, and I had the opportunity to see it, but I saw Camino and Mother instead, and I don't regret making that call. I hope to see this at some point, though.

And Hot Rod's fantastic. "What happened back there?" "I dunno. It started off all super-positive and then it just got crazy."

Coooooooool beeeeeeaaaaaans.


Can't say I've heard of Camino.  And which Mother?  Albert Brooks?  I'm guessing not and both are NZ films?  But yeah - do see Wake In Fright if you ever get the chance.


Camino's a Spanish film about a devout Catholic girl who comes down with a terrible disease, and as her condition deteriorates, her pious mother keeps telling her to pray to God in thanks for her disease, because it shows he cares by testing her. She does so, and then the Opus Dei find out, and shit gets depressing fast. It's an amazing film, one of my top 20 favourite films, and needs to be seen. Mother's the latest Bong Joon-ho film (the guy who did The Host and Memories of Murder). Neither of them are NZ films. [:D]




great_badir -> RE: great_badir's New improved list! (16/10/2009 12:37:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Pigeon Army
Camino's a Spanish film about a devout Catholic girl who comes down with a terrible disease, and as her condition deteriorates, her pious mother keeps telling her to pray to God in thanks for her disease, because it shows he cares by testing her. She does so, and then the Opus Dei find out, and shit gets depressing fast. It's an amazing film, one of my top 20 favourite films, and needs to be seen. Mother's the latest Bong Joon-ho film (the guy who did The Host and Memories of Murder). Neither of them are NZ films. [:D]


Ohhhh, okay.  I think I have actually heard of Camino.  Definitely not seen it, but your synopsis rings a bell.  As for Mother - can't say it'll be my thing, given that I find most of the whole Korean new-wave thoroughly over-rated!




Pigeon Army -> RE: great_badir's New improved list! (16/10/2009 1:02:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: great_badir

As for Mother - can't say it'll be my thing, given that I find most of the whole Korean new-wave thoroughly over-rated!


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What.




great_badir -> RE: great_badir's New improved list! (16/10/2009 1:09:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Pigeon Army

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ORIGINAL: great_badir

As for Mother - can't say it'll be my thing, given that I find most of the whole Korean new-wave thoroughly over-rated!


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What.



Yep.  Sorry.  I just can't get into them at all.  Memories of Murder was okay, but The Host just bored me to tears.  And Brotherhood was one of the biggest disappointments I've had for a LONG time.




Pigeon Army -> RE: great_badir's New improved list! (16/10/2009 1:15:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Pigeon Army

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ORIGINAL: great_badir

As for Mother - can't say it'll be my thing, given that I find most of the whole Korean new-wave thoroughly over-rated!


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What.



Yep.  Sorry.  I just can't get into them at all.  Memories of Murder was okay, but The Host just bored me to tears.  And Brotherhood was one of the biggest disappointments I've had for a LONG time.


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I think I'm going to cry. And not because I just watched the brilliant Brotherhood. [:D]




Deviation -> RE: great_badir's New improved list! (16/10/2009 1:36:40 PM)

Korean New Wave overrated? Cinema dying? Someone thinking Brotherhood was great? This thread depresses me.




great_badir -> RE: great_badir's New improved list! (16/10/2009 1:47:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Deviation

Korean New Wave overrated? Cinema dying? Someone thinking Brotherhood was great? This thread depresses me.


Ahhh, no, stick with it - it's all good.




Pigeon Army -> RE: great_badir's New improved list! (16/10/2009 1:56:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Deviation
Someone thinking Brotherhood was great? This thread depresses me.


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great_badir -> RE: great_badir's New improved list! (19/10/2009 1:04:36 PM)

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Le proces (The Trial), Orson Welles (1962)
A good friend of mine has seen half a dozen, possibly seven, films in his life.  He doesn't own a TV, DVD player or VCR of his own.  He likes good TV drama, serious documentaries and a smattering of comedy, but otherwise he's not particularly interested in moving pictures or the light box.  He's a reader, you see.  He prefers to use his own imagination, than have someone telling him what thought processes his brain should be making.  One day we were chatting about "difficult" books and, naturally, Ulysses featured quite prominently in the conversation.  He then asked me if I'd read any Kafka, to which I replied "no, but I've seen the film of The Trial".  "THEY MADE A FILM OF THE TRIAL!?!?!? (LONG pause).  How?"  (N.B. - I've since learnt that there was also big screen adaptation in the 90s, with Anthony Hopkins and Kyle MacLachlan, which I've not yet seen).  And that was a question I couldn't really answer, mainly because I hadn't read the book at that point (I've since…struggled with and completed it, with each chapter being like some end of level boss in a computer game), but also because the film was made by Orson Welles.  And a Welles films is never too easy to break down into manageable pieces, because it's either a daunting masterpiece, an interfered-with yet noble failure, a misunderstood think-piece or, quite simply, unmitigated turd.

So, what about Orson Welles?  Talented, highly intellectual, playful, maverick, egotistical, something of a bastard, loved his food.  Wasn't so keen on peas, though.  Made some undisputed classics, made some dreadful rubbish.  Also proud owner of one or two massively over-rated "masterpieces" (hello Citizen Kane and The Lady From Shanghai) and a couple of stone cold under-rated moments of brilliance (F for Fake, Touch of Evil and the ultra nasty The Stranger).  Beyond all that, Welles' biography on IMDB reads like a what's-what of unrealised dreams, empty promises, broken projects and outright failures.  His 1952 take on Othello was one of the last films he made with relatively little intrusion or influence from the studios, before thirty odd years of stalls, "personal projects" (which pretty much amounted to Welles and a few friends or family rehearsing various bits of classic literature in his back garden or basement) and made for TV fluff, presumably done for the money.  Despite (or maybe in spite of) all those years of studio interference, Welles decided to take on Kafka's seemingly impossible to film story about an average joe brought up on some mystery charges, before being hounded by executioners and…well, you know the rest.  Or perhaps you don't.  Taking the advanced cinematography and technical wizardry of Citizen Kane to the next level (actually more like the next ten levels), it's all angular open-plan offices, cavernous back rooms, post apocalyptic exteriors - very Kubrickian years before Kubrickian became an adjective.  Le proces also captures every single paranoid hell of central character Josef K, ably played by one time king of paranoid performance Anthony Perkins.  And, of course, there's the obligatory Welles extended cameo.  By 1962, the one time actorly pin-up had filled out admirably (if that's the right word, probably not) and in Le proces there he is, flopped on a bed in an enormous robe, as a law advocate.  Type-cast he might've been, but Welles still had the acting magic to the extent that he overdubbed, it is said, as many as eleven actors in the film, as well as some of Anthony Perkins' dialogue.  Some of these overdubs are obvious (Welles' Irish accent was never all that good), but some were so good the actors who were being dubbed (including Perkins) could not work out where their voices ended and Welles' began.  By far the best and most impressive part of the film is the opening few minutes, which serves as a character free introduction to the basic theme of the original book and the film.  Using pin-screen animation (google image it to see how impressive it was in 1962 and how impressive the technique has become since), Welles relays to the audience a fable from Kafka's book about a man who is prevented access to the law time and time again.  It's a brilliant little sequence.

One of Le proces' other triumphs is that at no point does Welles take the easy road and try to make a join-the-dots adaptation that strips out all the weirdness and complexity.  Such a treatment often ends in disaster (cf. most of the 80s and 90s Elmore Leonard adaptations, the aforementioned Ulysses and more recently Brian De Palma's The Black Dahlia), but Welles, somehow, didn't fall at any of those hurdles.  Hell, he probably relished every minute challenge the story threw up.  Further, it's very much a free-jazz adaptation - the main themes and plot points are there, but Welles plays around with them, adding his own spin and (criminally, some would argue) completely changing certain elements.  In fact, in some ways, the film is even more surreal and challenging than the source material.  Like the later and much lambasted F for Fake (actually a personal Welles favourite of mine), Le proces is very playful.  Unlike most of his other films where you can see and feel every inch of pain, graft, anger and apathy up on screen, Le proces makes you think of a man who's just having a great time doing what he's doing, belly laughing away at all the craziness he's putting onto celluloid.  Something not seen in a Welles film since Citizen Kane and something which raises Le proces to "Great Adaptation" status.




elab49 -> RE: great_badir's New improved list! (19/10/2009 1:24:26 PM)

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Like the later and much lambasted F for Fake (actually a personal Welles favourite of mine),


Not as much as it should be I fear - you should check the Hall of Fame forum. Hall of Fame 6 - F For Fake just, inexplicably, won. [:D]




great_badir -> RE: great_badir's New improved list! (19/10/2009 1:32:15 PM)

Good griff!!

I mean, I love F for Fake and everything, but better than Network AND 12 Angry Men?!?!?!  I'm almost speechless, however not totally as I have obviously just commented.




Pigeon Army -> RE: great_badir's New improved list! (19/10/2009 1:39:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: elab49

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ORIGINAL: great_badir
Like the later and much lambasted F for Fake (actually a personal Welles favourite of mine),


Not as much as it should be I fear - you should check the Hall of Fame forum. Hall of Fame 6 - F For Fake just, inexplicably, won. [:D]


Quiet down, you. [:D] F For Fake was probably my favourite in HoF6 after There Will Be Blood, but I can understand if you're still annoyed that When the Wind Blows got so close and tripped at the final hurdle. [:D]




elab49 -> RE: great_badir's New improved list! (19/10/2009 1:48:02 PM)

I was fine up until Rawlinson prised out the fact it lost by 1 point. [:@]




great_badir -> RE: great_badir's New improved list! (19/10/2009 1:51:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: elab49

I was fine up until Rawlinson prised out the fact it lost by 1 point. [:@]


Can you treat me as a newbie troll and patronisingly explain briefly how the HoF scoring works please?  Cos that's just wrong.........




Pigeon Army -> RE: great_badir's New improved list! (19/10/2009 1:52:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: elab49

I was fine up until Rawlinson prised out the fact it lost by 1 point. [:@]


[:D] On the plus side, it wasn't Before Sunrise that won, so I guess that's something.

Hey, elab, elab, elab, elab, elab, guess what I'm going to see at the cinema tomorrow?




elab49 -> RE: great_badir's New improved list! (19/10/2009 1:54:03 PM)

You mean you like When the Wind Blows more? [:)]

There are 12 Council members - 4 permanent, 4 put their hats in to get a go at 4 HoFs, and 4 who put their hats in to have a go at 1. (The last 8 are all completely random and anyone can ask to have a go - and anyone will be let in apparently (PA made the cut this time [;)]).

There are 3 rounds. In each round each of the council members for the round vote PLUS there is a public poll - so 13 voting slips go forward. First round you choose your top 6, second and third you order the remaining films.

And then you get a winner. Or the film with most points. Which may not be the same thing.
Where's the bad loser smilie, anyway?




Pigeon Army -> RE: great_badir's New improved list! (19/10/2009 1:57:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: elab49

You mean you like When the Wind Blows more? [:)]


Pfft, no. [:D] Both are in my Top 100, though - F For Fake's about 15 places above WtWB.

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The last 8 are all completely random and anyone can ask to have a go - and anyone will be let in apparently (PA made the cut this time [;)]).


Now that's just catty. [>:]

So elab, you don't want to know what I'm seeing at the cinema tomorrow? You'll liiiiiike it...




great_badir -> RE: great_badir's New improved list! (19/10/2009 1:57:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: elab49

You mean you like When the Wind Blows more? [:)]

There are 12 Council members - 4 permanent, 4 put their hats in to get a go at 4 HoFs, and 4 who put their hats in to have a go at 1. (The last 8 are all completely random and anyone can ask to have a go - and anyone will be let in apparently (PA made the cut this time [;)]).

There are 3 rounds. In each round each of the council members for the round vote PLUS there is a public poll - so 13 voting slips go forward. First round you choose your top 6, second and third you order the remaining films.

And then you get a winner. Or the film with most points. Which may not be the same thing.
Where's the bad loser smilie, anyway?


So, people actually voted that Fake was better than Network and 12 Angry Men?  Christ on a bike!

Listen to me - appalled by an under-rated film I love winning something!





elab49 -> RE: great_badir's New improved list! (19/10/2009 1:58:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Pigeon Army

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ORIGINAL: elab49

I was fine up until Rawlinson prised out the fact it lost by 1 point. [:@]


[:D] On the plus side, it wasn't Before Sunrise that won, so I guess that's something.

Hey, elab, elab, elab, elab, elab, guess what I'm going to see at the cinema tomorrow?



Oh god.

The Road?[sm=indifferent08.gif]

Something that will make me hate you even more?




elab49 -> RE: great_badir's New improved list! (19/10/2009 2:02:43 PM)

I went through the coming soon over here and the only one I can really think of is A Serious Man?




Pigeon Army -> RE: great_badir's New improved list! (19/10/2009 2:12:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: elab49

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ORIGINAL: Pigeon Army

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ORIGINAL: elab49

I was fine up until Rawlinson prised out the fact it lost by 1 point. [:@]


[:D] On the plus side, it wasn't Before Sunrise that won, so I guess that's something.

Hey, elab, elab, elab, elab, elab, guess what I'm going to see at the cinema tomorrow?



Oh god.

The Road?[sm=indifferent08.gif]

Something that will make me hate you even more?


No, it's not something that'll make you deliriously jealous. [:D] I got me mah ticket for Il Divo. [:)]




elab49 -> RE: great_badir's New improved list! (19/10/2009 2:19:51 PM)

About bloody time.

You do know I have seen it in the cinema, though? And I have the DVD as well. I'm just happy for you.[:)]




Pigeon Army -> RE: great_badir's New improved list! (19/10/2009 2:23:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: elab49

About bloody time.

You do know I have seen it in the cinema, though? And I have the DVD as well. I'm just happy for you.[:)]


I wasn't intending to make you jealous. Is that how you see me? As someone who gets all the cool stuff before you and makes you more and more jealous with each passing day that you don't see Thirst and Mother? [:D]




elab49 -> RE: great_badir's New improved list! (19/10/2009 2:31:35 PM)

You forgot Ponyo - first in your list of crimes.

Although I should apologise - I didn't notice the 'not' before deliriously jealous. [:)]

Edit - and I really genuinely hope you love it!




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