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homersimpson_esq -> You Can Feel Christmassy Now! (24/11/2007 7:17:48 PM)

...the Christmas theme Coca Cola advert plays. I don't know what it is, but what should be annoyingly American makes me start to feel Christmassy. That, and the realisation that it's a month tomorrow...!

So, what signifiers or indicators are there that say, you can feel Christmassy?





bobatim -> RE: You Know You Can Feel Christmassy When... (24/11/2007 7:21:04 PM)

For me it's when the Frankfurt Christmas Market comes to Birmingham, I defy anyone not to feel christmassy at that place.
It's one month tomorrow, Yay![:D]




Hood_Man -> RE: You Know You Can Feel Christmassy When... (24/11/2007 7:35:38 PM)

Too right Homer!  Next Saturday (December 1st for anyone not keeping track) we're gonna put up the decorations in my student flat.  We're getting a tree and everything!!  AND, the following Thursday is my birthday, AND there's a film themed fancy dress party in a nightclub near us that night!


It's gonna be a brilliant week, how will Christmas day itself live up to that?!




smila darcy -> RE: You Know You Can Feel Christmassy When... (24/11/2007 8:46:45 PM)

For me, Christmas is coming when you can get Yuletide coffees in red cups at Starbucks.[:)]




bobatim -> RE: You Know You Can Feel Christmassy When... (24/11/2007 8:49:09 PM)

Ooohh almost forgot bout them, My fave is Gingerbread Latte[sm=happy34.gif]




Funkyrae -> RE: You Know You Can Feel Christmassy When... (24/11/2007 9:44:53 PM)

When you take your children to see Santa.  Took my daughter earlier today to Santa's Grotto in the middle of Cardiff.

Have to say, when the Winter Wonderland opens too it's getting kinda Christmassy for me.

Agreed on the red cups though.




Cabal aka Boone -> RE: You Know You Can Feel Christmassy When... (24/11/2007 10:04:14 PM)

I'll feel Christmassy when I can start playing Christmas music at work on the 3rd December! Then and only then has Christmas started.
As I work for a Greetings Card company, my Christmas actually started back in June/July, thanks to fucking Harrods. lol
So I try my damnedest to restrict any other Christmas behaviour to December alone, otherwise the whole season would be ruined!




homersimpson_esq -> RE: You Know You Can Feel Christmassy When... (24/11/2007 11:09:28 PM)



quote:

ORIGINAL: smila darcy

For me, Christmas is coming when you can get Yuletide coffees in red cups at Starbucks.[:)]


Pah multi-million corporation...mutter mutter... use only local company... grumble grumble....meh.[:D]

Have to admit I do usually limit Christmas feelings to December, but dammit I saw that Coca Cola advert today and it made me feel Christmassy. That and doing some shopping today in Woolies and they had the music piped over the speakers, and it was heaving, and generally had a Christmas atmosphere. A month beforehand I can take. I think I'll dig out The Nightmare Before Christmas to put on to watch with my children tomorrow.




Evyl -> RE: You Know You Can Feel Christmassy When... (24/11/2007 11:33:29 PM)

...when it's time to dig the decorations out from under the stairs and with a gleeful grin I come across my special bag of the tackiest shit you've ever seen, then with a stern face and a very serious sounding "NO!", the good lady prompts to return it from whence it came. I then sulk for about 365 days. 




hozay -> RE: You Know You Can Feel Christmassy When... (24/11/2007 11:54:29 PM)

Probably hits me when I start wrapping pressies and thinking how much people will like them (hopefully) and watching their reactions.It should hit me when I'm buying the presents I guess but xmas or not it's still shopping,not my favourite activity.
The older I get the more into the xmas spirit I get,could be having more nieces and nephews around that does it.




homersimpson_esq -> RE: You Know You Can Feel Christmassy When... (24/11/2007 11:54:51 PM)

Ah, you need tasteful stuff like us. After years of tat from Hypershite, last year we went for understated-tasteful. Get a couple of faux-fir green garlands, wrap a length of white lights along them, decorate with baubles of no more than two colours, or those nice wooden ones, and string the garlands along the top of your walls. Pop in a Christmas Tree, and that's it. No hideous gaudy things that'll survive all year until you pull them out of the box and they fall apart. Nothing that requires batteries and emits some awful tinny Christmas-themed song. Festive, yet tasteful, that's the way. We'll get a couple more garlands this year so they can go further round the wall.

Actually, funny story about that last year. Our first real Christmas tree decided to die after a week of being up, so while my son was in nursery I took the tree back to the shop and replaced it with a fake one - less hassle we discovered quickly. While I did this, my wife put together the garlands and strung them up. My son got back from nursery just after I got back with the tree, and I hadn't put it up yet. He saw the gap where the tree had been, the garland up on the wall, put two and two together, and got five. He asked, with a puzzled expression, 'why have you put the Christmas tree on the wall?' [:D]




bobatim -> RE: You Know You Can Feel Christmassy When... (24/11/2007 11:59:00 PM)

Lol. Great story there Homer[:D]. Kids at Christmas are brill and nothing makes me feel more christmassy than when my nephew an niece are telling me what they want from Santa and are getting all excited. Although on Christmas eve they do go hyper![&:]




Evyl -> RE: You Know You Can Feel Christmassy When... (25/11/2007 12:00:04 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: homersimpson_esq

Ah, you need tasteful stuff like us.



It's the tasteful stuff that makes it's way out of the understairs cupboard- all exactly how you describe...boo!. I have a thing (not like a 'thing' thing...nevermind) for tacky Christmas decorations. As a kid we always had those gold/red/silver/green bells or whatever made of a foil type stuff that sort of 'fans' out. Hard to explain but you'd know it if you saw it.




Funkyrae -> RE: You Know You Can Feel Christmassy When... (25/11/2007 12:00:58 AM)

[sm=happy07.gif]

Aww bless!  That's so cute!

We don't go overboard either, although I have to say last year was a spectacularly girly event with lights that we covered with pink fluff.  I never get a real tree, I have a bit of a disagreement with chopping them down, so it's fake all the way for me and proud.

We don't do as much around the rest of the place, a few garlands here and there but the fun we have in setting up the tree is something to look forward to all year!  My daughter's already asking when we can put it up, won't be until after December 10th, that's my stepdad's birthday.  Then comes the Christmas countdown.




Mozza -> RE: You Know You Can Feel Christmassy When... (25/11/2007 1:11:34 AM)

I feel Christmassy when I whip out the Santa Ash AV.

EDIT: Ta-DAA!

I also saw that they reintroduced the old-school Christmas Coke adverts, with the lorries.  That made me feel a bit festive.  [:D] 




homersimpson_esq -> RE: You Know You Can Feel Christmassy When... (25/11/2007 9:25:32 AM)

Well, I still feel it's a bit early for a Christmas av, so to echo the magical feel of the impending season, I went for the unicorn scene from Blade Runner. I'll crack open a "There's only one fat guy who brings me presents" type Santa Homer av mid way through December, methinks.

And yeah, that Coke advert last year was rubbish - no 'Holidays are coming', no lorry. It's apt in a way that the Coke ads, of all ads, should herald the onslaught of commercialism that is Christmas, since the Big Guy is only in red because the original green suit didn't fit into Coca Cola's ad campaign back in the *mumble mumble* when they ran it.


For any non-Christians who might feel awkward during Christmas, or confronted by Christian relatives or friends as to why you're celebrating it, this is a great extract from about.com

quote:


Pre-Christian Roman Traditions:
Much of what people associate with Christmas, a holiday that is supposed to be about the birth of Jesus, actually pre-dates Christianity. Traditional Christianity celebrates the death of holy people, not their birth. In 274 CE, though, pagan emperor Aurelian proclaimed Decemer 25th Natalis Solis Invicti, the festival of the birth of the invincible sun. Saturnalia already occurred around this time along with many other celebrations. Christians took over this and other Roman festivals.

Pre-Christian German Traditions:
Germans of the north also held mid-winter festivals. Evergreen trees and holly were important because they held their green colors despite the harshest winters. Another Nordic tradition is the Yule Log — the origin of the word yule is disputed, but it may be related to the god Yolnir, Jol in Old Norse. In his name people celebrated a 12-day festival of eating, drinking, and merriment. One legend about Yolnir has him hanging himself on a tree and piercing himself with a spear.

Christian Traditions:
The most important Christian aspect of modern Christmas is Santa Claus. This character is traced to Saint Nicholas, a patron saint of children on whose day (December 6th) gifts were given to kids. Beyond the idea that that people are supposed celebrate the birth of Jesus on this day, this is all that Christianity has directly contributed. Many Christians acknowledge this and some denominations don’t celebrate Christmas at all, regarding it as little more than a dressed-up pagan holiday.

Washington Irving and Santa Claus:
Santa Claus may have Christian origins, but modern notions of Santa Claus can be traced to the writings of Washington Irving — writings often meant as satire, yet which also often ended up being read as factual. His stories about New Amsterdam being dominated by a cult which celebrated the figure of Saint Nick were popular and he often returned to the figure of Saint Nicholas, even writing about “old fashioned” Christmas celebrations which he simply made up.

Charles Dickens and Christmas Feasts:
Charles Dickens’ story A Christmas Carol has not been his only influence. He seemed obsessive about the holiday, and more than once he depicted lavish Christmas feasts rife with “old fashioned” traditions which were little more than literary creations. Nevertheless, people followed right along, enchanted with the atmosphere he created and wishing to capture it for themselves. As with Washington Irving, people accepted fiction as if it were true and thus allowed life to imitate art.

Queen Victoria, German Christmas, and Christmas Trees:
Queen Victoria came from a German family and unlike English families, she celebrated Christmas with a small decorated indoor tree. Then, as today, people obsessed over royalty and they were particularly infatuated when their teenaged Queen ascended the throne. Then, as today, people wanted to be fashionable and adopt what their role models did — in this case, the tree tradition. It wasn’t quite the Christmas tree we know today, but it was romanticized and took on a life of its own.

Clement Moore, Christmas Eve, and a Secular Santa Claus:
Clement Moore is credited with writing the poem A Visit From St. Nicholas which almost singlehandedly created the modern American conception of Santa Claus, what he looks like, and what he does (without ever using the name Santa Claus). At this point Santa Claus is fully secularized. There is no reference to sainthood, Christianity, or Jesus. Instead, Santa has a pagan image — he is, after all, described as an elf. Nast also establishes Christmas ideas like hanging stockings by the fireplace.

Thomas Nast and Santa Claus:
Illustrator Thomas Nast is the one who gave America the physical pictures of Santa Claus, thus providing a common, shared vision of the primary symbol of an increasingly secular holiday. Nast also added numerous key details about his life which hadn’t been used by others before: Nast’s pictures showed Santa reading children’s letters, watching their behavior, writing the naughty and nice lists, and living at the North Pole.

Francis Church and the Meaning of Christmas:
An editorial writer of the New York Sun, Francis Church wrote the famous response to Virginia O’Hanlon about Santa Claus. As Tom Flynn describes, Church united “strands of Christian mysticism, nineteenth-century Transcendentalism and Romanticism, and general distrust of scientific skepticism.” Church described a coherent vision of what Christmas was supposed to be, replacing a literal Santa that children believe in with a metaphorical Santa representing a spirit of generosity and love.

Christmas Shopping and Commercialization:
It was just after World War II that people complained about over-commercialization of Christmas and started to try to “put Christ back into Christmas.” But why at this point in history? Blame it on the war: during the conflict, people had to shop early in order to get Christmas gifts to the troops overseas in time. Merchants, of course, benefited from the early shopping and made a point of reminding people to shop early — even after the war ended. Thus the lengthy holiday shopping season was born and it’s been getting longer ever since. Over time people have learned to try to shop even earlier in order to beat the maddening holiday rush — and retailers, being the good public servants that they are, have sought to accommodate them with earlier and earlier holiday sales. By and large, the spirit of giving has become predicated upon a spirit of buying. Such is our modern Christmas: a large number of ancient pagan practices, a few pieces of Christian traditions, and a large number of modern creations which are almost entirely secular in nature, no matter where they got their inspiration from. I see little room and little need for any “Christ” in all of this - but more importantly, I see little place where a “Christ” could be put back into the mix. So when you find someone talking about putting Christ back into Christmas, you can ask them what part Christ really played in Christmas to begin with. Although you may not be interested in celebrating holidays with any religious trappings whatsoever, Christianity’s hold on Christmas, from a religious perspective, is rather tenuous. If you’re an atheist who would like to enjoy the holiday, you should be able to do so without giving Christianity a second thought.




pixiedevil_pop -> RE: You Know You Can Feel Christmassy When... (25/11/2007 10:54:12 AM)

I, like mr homer got excited about Christmas when the cola advert came on last night...I shouted 'oh, honey we can get christmassy now!' I have been getting into the spirit more since Monday. We've started teaching the children at school their christmas songs (very sweet may I add). When listening to a bunch of pre-schoolers belting out 'When santa got stuck up the chimney' 'Jingles bells' etc you can't help but feel that little spirit creeping in!
Also basically finished christmas present shopping yesterday (for the children anyway) and went especially into newport city centre to a certain shop that still sells paper sheet christmas paper (which smells of christmas btw). Getting excited by the thought that school breaks up on December 20th and this is where my christmas holiday/celebrations begin - yay!
I love the thought of getting the christmas tree from the attic - or the large landing cupboard, not sure which! and digging through all the decoration! I have all the colours you can imagine and change the theme each year. I'm going traditional this year with reds, golds and greens with wooden toys - I'm getting all tingerly thinking about it lol!
We won't put our decorations up until the second week of december, although I'm christmassy now is just too soon. Many people where I live have already decorated the outside of their houses - it makes waiting for the big day drag for me and I would get annoyed by all the dust it causes lol!
la la laaaaa!




Cabal aka Boone -> RE: You Know You Can Feel Christmassy When... (25/11/2007 11:54:24 AM)

Ive said it MANY times before, on here and elsewhere...

You Two Need To Get Out More!! lol [;)]

I guess with the two kids (it is two now isnt it? I forget) you have to get in the spirit a bit more and possibly earlier, whereas me, singleton that I am this year, can take me sweet time about it! I like the season, I am just in no rush to get into it, its Christmas at my pace around here!
Last year I had 9 yo twins to contend with, carnage is all Im saying.
[:D]
They've been playing that Coke Xmas ad on some of the Radio Stations too, its like the Coca Cola Company have patent pending on Christmas!
#Holidays are coming, Holidays are coming...# [8D]




Ohpityme -> RE: You Know You Can Feel Christmassy When... (25/11/2007 1:35:04 PM)

Yeah the Coke christmas truck advert is well christmassy, as are the starbucks cups!
Christmas:Films, episodes of T.V shows, songs let me know its christmas!




Biggus -> RE: You Know You Can Feel Christmassy When... (25/11/2007 1:37:47 PM)

... threads like this are started.




homersimpson_esq -> RE: You Know You Can Feel Christmassy When... (25/11/2007 1:37:56 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Cabal aka Boone

Ive said it MANY times before, on here and elsewhere...

You Two Need To Get Out More!! lol [;)]



[:'(][sm=mad45.gif]

[:D]




Sway -> RE: You Know You Can Feel Christmassy When... (25/11/2007 3:00:12 PM)

This year I very much doubt I'll feel 'christmassy' since our store had their Christmas gifts/cards/wrap in mid-Oct and have already been playing Christmas songs for the past few weeks. So I reckon I'm going to be sick of it by the actual day. Plus, this year, for the first ever, I'm going to be working over Christmas. Not the day itself, but Christmas Eve and Boxing Day, and that's also ruined my enjoyment of it.  All 3 days are totally family-related and fun, but this year Christmas day is just going to be one day off in the week for me.

Anyway, after that moan, in usual years what makes me feel Christmassy, without a doubt, is my first viewing of The Muppets Christmas Carol.  I always watch it in December on vid (dvd these days I suppose), and it never fails to make me feel super Christmassy. Love. It.

I love things like the outdoor icerinks you get - I went to the one in George Sq in Glasgow back in first year and it was so pretty - all the christmas lights were up, and I was with a group of friends from halls, and we were all falling about the place grabbing onto each other. I remember very clearly me and one friend 'waltzing' in a ridiculously clumsy manner around the rink, and we fell over but really slowly. We were clasping hands and we just gradually got lower and closer to the ground and were powerless to stop it. Eventually we crumpled into a heap with him on top of me.  (ooh-er).

Another time up in Aberdeen, I did one of those stupid comedy falls where my legs went from under me and I crashed out backwards spread-eagle. I just recall looking forward one moment, a blur, then just seeing sky.  Then all these people appeared in my vision, just peering down at me.

And one final thing that makes me feel Christmassy, is when mum starts doing her Christmas baking and I get to lick the spoon and bow,l of excess cake mixture, clean. [:D]




pixiedevil_pop -> RE: You Know You Can Feel Christmassy When... (25/11/2007 3:31:17 PM)

oi...I get out plenty you cheeky so and so [sm=mad45.gif]
Yes....we have two although I tend to tell people I have two young children and pet dog and a teenager to look after! Yeah, it got a little disheartening when there were loads of christmassy things out in asda at the same time as the halloween stuff.
I'm going to be busy dying oats green and red over the next couple of days to mix in with glitter because on christmas eve we go out the front and sprinkle the driveway with a mixture of the oats and glitter so that santas reindeer can find their way! [sm=engel27.gif] I'm making up loads for the kids in school, Jacob loved throwing the 'magic' out the front last year, it was truly magical in fact next doors kids had to join in on the fun too! Tegan was too young last year but she'll be joining us this christmas eve and I'm sure it's going to be a tradition lasting years in our family!




Valanya -> RE: You Know You Can Feel Christmassy When... (25/11/2007 6:05:15 PM)

It's the coke ads all the way for me - I got quite excited this year when I saw the lorries had be re-introduced into the adverts, as it was always them that - for some reason - made me feel christmassy. The one last year with the woman who got a bottle of coke from santa every year just didn't do it for me.




M -> RE: You Know You Can Feel Christmassy When... (25/11/2007 6:14:43 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: homersimpson_esq
For any non-Christians who might feel awkward during Christmas, or confronted by Christian relatives or friends as to why you're celebrating it, this is a great extract from about.com

quote:



Christmas Shopping and Commercialization:
It was just after World War II that people complained about over-commercialization of Christmas and started to try to "put Christ back into Christmas.” But why at this point in history? Blame it on the war: during the conflict, people had to shop early in order to get Christmas gifts to the troops overseas in time. Merchants, of course, benefited from the early shopping and made a point of reminding people to shop early — even after the war ended. Thus the lengthy holiday shopping season was born and it's been getting longer ever since. Over time people have learned to try to shop even earlier in order to beat the maddening holiday rush — and retailers, being the good public servants that they are, have sought to accommodate them with earlier and earlier holiday sales. By and large, the spirit of giving has become predicated upon a spirit of buying. Such is our modern Christmas: a large number of ancient pagan practices, a few pieces of Christian traditions, and a large number of modern creations which are almost entirely secular in nature, no matter where they got their inspiration from. I see little room and little need for any "Christ” in all of this - but more importantly, I see little place where a "Christ” could be put back into the mix. So when you find someone talking about putting Christ back into Christmas, you can ask them what part Christ really played in Christmas to begin with. Although you may not be interested in celebrating holidays with any religious trappings whatsoever, Christianity's hold on Christmas, from a religious perspective, is rather tenuous. If you're an atheist who would like to enjoy the holiday, you should be able to do so without giving Christianity a second thought.



See, what do those of us who are both non-Christian and dubious about over-commercialisation do? 

This year I've not asked for anything...if family insist on doing something I've said they should give whatever they would have spent to Oxfam or Shelter, as there is nothing I particularly need.   I'm still going home for the meal and the boozing with family and friends, as there is very few times when everyone is together at once, but I can't be bothered with, and am highly suspicious of, the need to buy and be bought for, for no apparent reason.

EDIT - sorry to burst into this thread like the Grinch!




Oddjob -> RE: You Know You Can Feel Christmassy When... (25/11/2007 7:28:13 PM)

You know you can feel Christmassy when the newspapers start publishing their Christmas TV Guide too early...

12.00 To Be Announced
1.00 To Be Announced
1.30 To Be Announced
2.00 Eastenders
3.00 The Queen's Speech
3.15 Top Of The Pops 2007 Number One Singles
4.00 Premier of a film that everyone bought on DVD 2 years ago
6.00 Doctor Who
6.45 News
7.00 To Be Announced
8.00 To Be Announced

Why can't they just wait until they can actually announce what's on?!




Sway -> RE: You Know You Can Feel Christmassy When... (25/11/2007 7:31:55 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Oddjob

You know you can feel Christmassy when the newspapers start publishing their Christmas TV Guide too early...

12.00 To Be Announced
1.00 To Be Announced
1.30 To Be Announced
2.00 Eastenders
3.00 The Queen's Speech
3.15 Top Of The Pops 2007 Number One Singles
4.00 Premier of a film that everyone bought on DVD 2 years ago
6.00 Doctor Who
6.45 News
7.00 To Be Announced
8.00 To Be Announced

Why can't they just wait until they can actually announce what's on?!


[:D] Haha, yeah I've noticed that before, it's so silly. That's made me chuckle!




oddzag -> RE: You Know You Can Feel Christmassy When... (25/11/2007 9:56:15 PM)

I dont feel christmassy [:(]




pettsy -> RE: You Know You Can Feel Christmassy When... (25/11/2007 10:44:39 PM)

...You start to see the adverts for albums from nondescript all-male or all-female choral groups.  Or Cliff Richard, or Westlife.  Westlife are the new Cliff, they release one song a year (at Christmas) and its only a slight variation on the one they did last year.

Incidentally this year will be the first time in quite a while (about 5 years) I have not had to work Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, Boxing Day, or New Years Day.  So think on!




Funkyrae -> RE: You Know You Can Feel Christmassy When... (25/11/2007 10:47:52 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: oddzag

I dont feel christmassy [:(]


It's still only November!




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