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jncorbett -> Ocean's Thirteen (12/6/2007 10:51:23 PM)

Great entertainment, thoroughly enjoyed it. Glad to see all the crew getting their moment this time, as this time everyone was entertaining to watch, not just Pitt, Damon and Clooney.




Sway -> RE: Ocean's Thirteen (13/6/2007 1:05:34 AM)

Was a bit dubious about seeing this, I'm not a huge fan of films cashing in on a great original, and after Ocean's 12 I wasn't hugely keen on seeing this.  However one of my friends really wanted to, so I thought I'd check it out.

And I'm glad I did.  It might be lacking a certain smoothness that the first one had, and perhaps the originality but it was a helluva improvement from the second.

This went back to basics, and made the heist a lot easier to follow which meant you could actually enjoy what was going on and have a little fun along the way.  There were no distracting sub-stories to follow and it was nice to see screen time divided up fairly evenly between all the main stars, as opposed to focusing squarely on the likes of Pitt and Clooney.   The scenes with Caan and Affleck were highly enjoyable and the whole movie seemed to take itself a lot less seriously than the second one did.  There were a lot of laughs along the way, which actually had somebody in our audience let out a big Nelson 'HA HA' at an end scene with a certain somebody.

Loved one of the closing shots of all the men lined up smoking cigars too - the film was far better without the female characters of the first and second.

Highly enjoyable film which keeps you engaged throughout, definitely recommend it for a light hearted watch!





talpacino -> RE: Ocean's Thirteen (13/6/2007 11:50:41 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sway

Was a bit dubious about seeing this, I'm not a huge fan of films cashing in on a great original, and after Ocean's 12 I wasn't hugely keen on seeing this.  However one of my friends really wanted to, so I thought I'd check it out.

And I'm glad I did.  It might be lacking a certain smoothness that the first one had, and perhaps the originality but it was a helluva improvement from the second.

This went back to basics, and made the heist a lot easier to follow which meant you could actually enjoy what was going on and have a little fun along the way.  There were no distracting sub-stories to follow and it was nice to see screen time divided up fairly evenly between all the main stars, as opposed to focusing squarely on the likes of Pitt and Clooney.   The scenes with Caan and Affleck were highly enjoyable and the whole movie seemed to take itself a lot less seriously than the second one did.  There were a lot of laughs along the way, which actually had somebody in our audience let out a big Nelson 'HA HA' at an end scene with a certain somebody.

Loved one of the closing shots of all the men lined up smoking cigars too - the film was far better without the female characters of the first and second.



Caan and Affleck were easily the best I thought. They're like little kids and the banter is great between the 2 of them. I loved the bit when Caan asked "Are you in yet?" and Affleck replies "I hate those words."

Totally agree about the female characters, I'm really glad they weren't in it. Not a big fan of Julia Roberts or CZJ.

I'm not too sure what happened in the end. All Reuben got was a bit of land and Bank went back to his casinos?? And why did Benedict hire Toulour to steal the diamonds when he said he didn't care what happens to the diamonds? He could have just asked for them to be included in the deal for loaning the money, seemed a bit pointless. Did I miss something?




Cethan -> Oceans Thirteen (13/6/2007 11:59:18 AM)

To be honest, I thought the 2nd one was better. This is the dullest film I've seen in a while




quizkid -> (13/6/2007 12:20:23 PM)

i really cant say this was better than spidey or pirates what i can say is that the vegas episode of hustle was certainly just as good at about 1/10th of the budget i should imagine. having said that this was much better than twelveback in vegas where they belong al pacino adding a touch of class to the proceedings and ELLEN BARKIN IS STILL HOT. this really is about style over substance eddie izzard there to explain tortorous plot at least on dvd you can go backwhat was that machine don cheadle was operating exactly?. no more than three very average




skeletonjack -> RE: (13/6/2007 2:58:18 PM)

I enjoyed this, a good old fashioned crime caper. A vast improvement on part 2 and as good as the first
It's fast moving, stylishly shot and basically a lot of fun to watch.
4 stars




claudemg -> Rather average (13/6/2007 8:47:35 PM)

If this had come out before ocean's eleven Empire would not have given it 4 stars.

sure it was fun - but not particularly clever. 11 had style, wit and belly laughs - this had none of that.




Taffy -> RE: Rather average (13/6/2007 10:42:11 PM)

I think it worked well, sometimes I think people want big hollywood hyped blockbusters to fail and will pick at any little fault, it was a great funny film that didn't take itself to serious, no where near the effortless style of the 1st, so much better than the second, and empire got it spot on in that review, although i'd be pushed to give it 3.5 out of 5 [:D]




doncopey1 -> RE: Rather average (14/6/2007 12:20:32 AM)

I have seen some shite this year Pirates 3, 300 and more but Oceans 13 (apart from Goal 2) has just scooped the prize. The most, lazy, self, indulgent piece of garbage i have seen from such a stellar cast of actors (excuse my terminology) . The chemistry between Clooney and Pitt is what drived the first film, but even Oceans 12 packed more humerous punches than this, they looked bored and irritated. The supporting cast were equally inaffective, Don Cheadle's accent getting worse, whilst Damon's character became increasingly irritating. Casey Affleck for me was the most enjoyable out of the crew, humerous and original, even though his whole character basis sucked in this film. Andy Garcia and even a brief cameo from Vincent Cassell were most enjoyable for, but it was Al Pacino for me all the way he drove my interest. He actually looked interested in his character which had a devillish charm about him, despite Ellen Barkin as his awful and wreckless sidekick.  Soderbergh's camera work was a frenzied mess, this combined with some supposed slick editing didn't do anything to increase the cool factor of the movie. The script is quite simply dyer, really, really bad, lacking any tempo and rhythem which is what the film should ooze in, resulting in a multi-layered, comlex bore fest.
The film has its moments, Pacino is the best thing about it, you only wish he and Andy Garcia had more screen time together. Clearly a money maker film, (judging by the number of products placed in it) it edges out 12 ever so slightly, i just hope this is their last con, because i'm bored of this shit now. (1.5)




monkeyhouse -> Oceans 13: Now with less faff (14/6/2007 9:36:23 PM)

It gets right to business - there was very little faff, not even any discussion about whether they should do another 'job' (it's normally always the last one, right?) which is good as revenge is the order of the day here. It was very linear though and there were no great surprises (only a minor twist at the end). There was something understated by it; for instance the fact they get some 'very heavy duty machinery' (not to give anything away) I would have thought would be a big deal, but it's used with very little fan fair. Also, it was funny but the humour even seemed a bit more low-key. This all adds to a slightly different vibe than the previous Ocean's but that's no bad thing however. It's ludicrous and there's no doubt cast that the '13' won't pull off their plan but it's still very entertaining with another great soundtrack. Can you believe that hotel is fake?! And props to the Morecambe & Wise line by Eddie Izzard - it was like having a joke just for me, being a Brit in a US cinema!




monkeyhouse -> delete! (14/6/2007 9:38:11 PM)

oops. 




monkeyhouse -> delete! (14/6/2007 9:40:28 PM)

Oops. Don't know what's going on.




Stuntman Mike -> RE: delete! (15/6/2007 6:56:33 AM)

As good as the first, and way better than the second. Very entertaining, even if you do feel like not a lot happens.
4/5




Paul on Empire -> Cross one Ocean and you cross them all (15/6/2007 11:15:55 AM)

The A list gang return to take revenge on hotelier Willy Banks after he crossed the gang’s old friend Reuben.

George Clooney holds the film together but all the stars have their own moments of brilliance; including the hilarious wigs of Brad Pitt and the latex noses of Matt Damon which inject comedic silliness that balances the film. Al Pacino also gives a great performance as the suitably vain villain.

A lesson in style and glamour, almost every shot is visual perfection and yet for all its beauty and silliness, the heart of the film lies with friendship, a theme that gives purpose to the two hours of stylish fun.




Paul on Empire -> Cross one Ocean and you cross them all (15/6/2007 11:15:57 AM)

The A list gang return to take revenge on hotelier Willy Banks after he crossed the gang’s old friend Reuben.

George Clooney holds the film together but all the stars have their own moments of brilliance; including the hilarious wigs of Brad Pitt and the latex noses of Matt Damon which inject comedic silliness that balances the film. Al Pacino also gives a great performance as the suitably vain villain.

A lesson in style and glamour, almost every shot is visual perfection and yet for all its beauty and silliness, the heart of the film lies with friendship, a theme that gives purpose to the two hours of stylish fun.




Dave B -> RE: Cross one Ocean and you cross them all (15/6/2007 12:23:22 PM)

****MILD SPOILERS (ALTHOUGH I WOULDN'T WORRY ABOUT IT TOO MUCH)****

I can't help but feel that the reason this film is getting such positive reviews is because people are just relieved that it's not as awful as Ocean's Twelve. However despite this fact, Ocean's Thirteen is a dull, uneventful and tedious movie. The main problem seems to be that the filmmakers were so concerned with not repeating the same mistakes that they went ahead and made brand new one's. The plot amounts to a whole lot of nothingness as things have been made too simple. Creating a few tremors and fixing the games so everyone wins is the entire plot. The one thing a heist movie needs is a heist and we are massively short changed on this.

Everyone just seems to be going through the motions, with the characters becoming one dimentional cyphers, with most of the cast brought back simply to make up the numbers. What exactly is the point of Bernie Mac in this film? Also the chemistry between the cast, which helped make the first film so entertaining, is completely gone, even between Pitt and Clonney. Matt Damon, who is usually good value, is just plain annoying with a draft plot to seduce Ellen Barkin. This is dangeriously close to Ocean's Twelve territory here.

After the sheer awfulness of 300, Spider-Man 3 and refusing to see At World's End due to the piss poor Dead Man's Chest, I really wanted to like this film. Sadly this is another disappointing blockbuster and sequel. 2/5




TheGodfather -> RE: Ocean's Thirteen (16/6/2007 2:04:24 PM)

Ocean`s Thirteen
After the really bad Ocean`s Twelve we had to wait and see if Soderbergh could deliver a film this time that was actual worth watching. Well, he did.
The biggest difference with Ocean`s Twelve is that it looks like they had fun making this (at least it looks that way ;)). And it shows. The humor is, although not as good as in the first installment, back. The cast delivers some good performances and George Clooney is Mr. Cool as always. The rest can keep up with him pretty good.
Style-wise Soderbergh borrowed from the old films wich gives the movie a fresh kind-of touch. The story isn`t too complicated and so the humor is the main character. That works out well.
With that, Ocean`s Thirteen is a truly entertaining flick that washes away the bitter aftertaste that we had from Ocean`s Twelve.

7,7/10




David Dvd 1988 -> RE: Ocean's Thirteen (17/6/2007 6:00:14 PM)

Better than the second one not as good as the first great end to a very desent trilogy




pablohoolio -> RE: Rather average (18/6/2007 12:16:24 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: claudemg

If this had come out before ocean's eleven Empire would not have given it 4 stars.

sure it was fun - but not particularly clever. 11 had style, wit and belly laughs - this had none of that.


Totally disagree. It had them all in abundance. And it was far FAR better than Oceans 12.




klause -> Very Average (18/6/2007 1:33:31 PM)

The best thing about it was the Simpsons Movie teaser beforehand. Absolutely Hilarious!!




klause -> Very Average (18/6/2007 1:34:02 PM)

The best thing about it was the Simpsons Movie teaser beforehand. Absolutely Hilarious!!




Acrobat -> (18/6/2007 5:49:08 PM)

To Clooney and Co.

I know you're cool, and I know I was pretty shattered when I went to see 13, but what were you saying or doing half the time? And why does it matter that you're really really cool and cunning if it's no fun?




anish1979 -> Ocean's 13 (19/6/2007 12:59:42 PM)

Not as good or as fun as the first film, way better than the lazy second. The first hour or so is pretty dull, then it slowly gathers momentum and suddenly you remember that theres actually a heist at the end of all this chat. The glimpses of Vincent Cassel's Nightfox brought the only tension in the whole film, and even that was an anti-climax. Otherwise it was a standard heist movie and you knew what the twists were. Pacino should have been allowed to shout more (never thought Id say that). Great direction and soundtrack, and Clooney is pretty damn cool




anish1979 -> Ocean's 13 (19/6/2007 12:59:49 PM)

Not as good or as fun as the first film, way better than the lazy second. The first hour or so is pretty dull, then it slowly gathers momentum and suddenly you remember that theres actually a heist at the end of all this chat. The glimpses of Vincent Cassel's Nightfox brought the only tension in the whole film, and even that was an anti-climax. Otherwise it was a standard heist movie and you knew what the twists were. Pacino should have been allowed to shout more (never thought Id say that). Great direction and soundtrack, and Clooney is pretty damn cool




pettsy -> RE: Ocean's 13 (19/6/2007 10:07:03 PM)

OK, I never had the dubious pleasure of seeing Ocean's 12, so I can't compare it to that.  It was decent enough, but seemed to be lacking the style and fun of the first film, and like a poster said above there was no real tension in the heist.  A decent enough film to pass the time though. 3/5




topper911 -> return to form (22/6/2007 12:24:53 AM)

Its well known cinematic folklore that the original Sinatra eleven was seen by the cast as a bit of a lark and has only really made its iconic status cemented by those who appreciate the style over the substance. It seems that much can be said of the sequal to the cracking new generation of oceans films. Everyone i think will remember the shots of the production with the cast jetting around Lake Como on yaughts and the like. Thankfully the end to the trilogy (hopefully) sees a return to the clever scripting and snappy one liners of the first, and the ditching of what was in my opinion dead wood in the shape of Roberts and Zeta Jones. Pacino steals all his scenes as expected and Damon is brilliant as the once put upon Linus, now coming into his own as a real heavy hitter in the group. A real suprise was Ellen Barkin who played her scenes, especially those with Damon to perfection. Get her some more jobs soon please. The only real gripe I have is that the twist was coming a mile off. But in all a good return to form for the team and Mr Soderburgh. Thanks very much guys, but please, no more.




solid snake -> Oceans 13 (24/6/2007 6:50:08 PM)

Not a good film at all. Its boring and i felt as if i was in the cinema for hours. It only became exciting in the last half hour when they were robbing the casino. Its also makes no sense at all. It could of been good but it was just another poor number 3.




Paul2j -> RE: Oceans 13 (24/6/2007 10:11:56 PM)

I'm just glad they gave a decent enough plot reason for the film and heist to actually take place. It's slick, but not as clever or good as it seems to think it is. That said, perfectly good fun, and a largely satisfactory conclusion.

7/10




britesparc -> The film Ocean’s Twelve wants to be when it grows up (25/6/2007 1:50:38 PM)

Let’s hear it for second chances. Everything about Ocean’s Thirteen feels like it’s designed to make up for what went wrong in Ocean’s Twelve. Where that movie was smug, this feels cool; where that one flew all over Europe, this one returns to the iconic, stylised Vegas that made the first film so successful; and instead of a complicated, convoluted plot and several new characters, we lose the two ladies and gain Al Pacino. Hell, even Eddie Izzard is given something interesting to do this time round. It might lack the effortless charm and some of the wit of the first Ocean, but this is still such breezy, enjoyable, smiles-all-round entertainment that it stands head and shoulders over the summer’s output thus far. A lot of the film’s success is down to how straightforward it is: there’s no elusive MacGuffin, there’s little in the way of double-cross, and any flashback/forward palaver is done away with very early on, and even then it serves its purpose as a plot exposition device. Instead, we get straight into it, with Clooney and Pitt going on a subtle and suave warpath, conspiring – with their pals, obv – to bring Pacino’s world crashing down. It’s a revenge gig; we get it. And having explained how they’re going to do it, the rest of the film is about carrying it out. The downside of this is, we lose a lot of the tension: there’s nothing to compare with the switcheroo that closed the first film, and because we can all feel fairly confident that the good guys are gonna be triumphant, there’s little sense of menace or threat. Pacino, although brilliant, offers subtlety, nuance and ego, coming across more like a two-bit Lex Luthor then the snarling, murderous villain Alec Baldwin was in the first film (before he became all cuddly and nice in Ocean’s Twelve; and for all its other successes, Thirteen does little to return him to his lofty, nasty position). What we get instead of tension, however, is angst; arguably more than any mainstream franchise since Wrath of Khan, this feels like a meditation on growing old. The younger guys – Casey Affleck and Scott Caan – are given much more to do, and have a genuinely entertaining sub-plot about starting a workers’ revolution in Mexico; meanwhile, Elliot Gould is on his uppers, and George ‘n’ Brad are getting wistful and nostalgic about the old Vegas. There’s even a nice “honour amongst thieves” motif, about the code of the Guys That Shook Sinatra’s Hand. And Matt Damon – forever the franchise’s ugly duckling, always operating in the shadow of the Big Boys (I’m talking about his character, incidentally) – emerges triumphant. It really is a feel-good summer blockbuster, an entertaining, frequently amusing ninety minutes spent in great company. Amidst the flurry of arachnid disappointment and Caribbean catastrophe, we would have been happy with a lot less.




jonesy323 -> Oceans Thirettn (25/6/2007 11:02:27 PM)

Whilst its better than O12, I couldn't help feeling let down somewhere.
Was it because of Al Pacino's understated role, or just because of an average script?
I know there there is no such rating, but for me its slap bang in the middle 2.5 out of 5. Since there is no such thing I'll give it 3, if only because of the Mexican scenes, which were quite funny.
Please no O14!




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