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The Worst Irish Stereotypes In Film
We assess the offensiveness levels of Hollywood's Irish characters
As the world becomes a smaller place, it's getting harder and harder for Hollywood to find exotic places to visit outside the realms of science fiction. So instead Hollywood turns the perfectly ordinary into the exotic by resorting to crude cultural stereotypes a good hundred years out of date. Here, in celebration of St Patrick's Day, we assess the character types that result, and how offensive actual Irish people find them...

WORDS HELEN O'HARA

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The Worst Irish Stereotypes In Film
The Bar-Propper

As any Hollywood screenwriter / producer knows, Ireland is full of alcoholics. It stands to reason, therefore, that any male over the age of 50 to be found anywhere on the island will spend most of his time in his local drinking establishment, red-nosed face in a pint of the black stuff. This character is most likely good-natured and amiable (especially if the visiting lead buys him a drink) and probably owns a fiddle that will be put to good use in the final ceile around the pub. Still, he may turn nasty, or be nasty, depending on the genre of the film (if it's a drama or horror, avoid!).

Examples: Most of the cast of Waking Ned Devine, the supporting cast of Leap Year, most of the cast of The Quiet Man, Darby O'Gill in Darby O'Gill and the Little People.

Probably called: Seamus

Offensiveness rating: 9. Not all Irish people are drunks.

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1 RE
Posted on Thursday May 27, 2010, 04:21 by yayga monster
concise statement.... to be honest the biggest piss heads in the world are the irish, english, scottish and welsh. Read More

2 Yeah but not just any terrorists...
Posted on Monday April 5, 2010, 03:53 by Concise_Statement
...they're Hollywood's most loveable and sympathetic terrorists. It's no secret that the United States has long ploughed a heap load of cash into the IRA, due to its huge Irish Catholic demographic with enormous political influence. And if I remember correctly, in Blown Away, Jeff Bridges - the hero - used to be in the IRA WITH the film's villain! But oh shucks, he realised good old fashioned freedom fighting against the Empire wasn't all it's cracked up to be and moved Stateside to start disarming bomb instead of detonating them. Much more offensive is the drunk Irish stereotype because, as everyone knows, the real pissheads are the Brits. Anyone who's seen one of those late night police documentaries showcasing binge drinking-turned-violent knows they'd rather be anywhere in Dublin than outside a club in Hartlepool. Read More

3 Another few stereotypes...
Posted on Tuesday March 23, 2010, 13:42 by Sphinx
We're supposed to be slow on the mark, always the rogue - not always - eat oodles of stew and every single girl must learn Irish Dancing.....I didn't, I wanted to though..... Read More

4 Deco in THE COMMITMENTS was a boxer?????????
Posted on Tuesday March 23, 2010, 13:31 by nicky1975
I don't remember ANYONE in THE COMMITMENTS being a boxer!!!!??????? Deco was the bus conducter and the closest thing to a boxer was Mikah the thuggish drummer. Read More

5 The Shoeless Waif
Posted on Tuesday March 23, 2010, 12:51 by Rooby
A snot-nosed, tousle-haired rascal who spends his days wagging school, pinching sweeties and getting skelped round the head by his plump heart-o-gold Ma. He'd best behave whilst his Pa's around though or he'll get such a beating he won't know whether he's Paddy or Mickey! The scruffy tinker soon learns important life lessons due to secret encounters with The Priest Read More

6
Posted on Tuesday March 23, 2010, 12:04 by pellonpah
Blown away. Read More

7
Posted on Tuesday March 23, 2010, 00:18 by KeeBrit
No mention at all of the thugs in "Gangs of New York"? Read More

8 Posted Twice
Posted on Monday March 22, 2010, 14:52 by doncobaino
apologies, must have been all the black stuff I have drunk this morning Read More

9 Brad Pitt the devils own....
Posted on Monday March 22, 2010, 14:49 by doncobaino
coming from Northern Ireland the terrorist stereotype is one that causes me to cringe. the devils own was shocking. First and foremost Brad Pitt wipes out a street battle more accustomed to nromandy france during the war than any seen in Belfast over the past 30 years, then of course the accent. not forgetting how he was baptised in guiness and eats cabbage and cornbeef! never in all my life have i eaten cabbage or cornbeef....Angels and Demons ewan mcgregors priest was orphaned when the UVF or who ever killed his parents when a bomb went off when a priest came to town! isnt richard gere's character in the jackal some ex-IRA John McClane character? *shudders* Read More

10 Brad Pitt the devils own....
Posted on Monday March 22, 2010, 14:47 by doncobaino
coming from Northern Ireland the terrorist stereotype is one that causes me to cringe. the devils own was shocking. First and foremost Brad Pitt wipes out a street battle more accustomed to nromandy france during the war than any seen in Belfast over the past 30 years, then of course the accent. not forgetting how he was baptised in guiness and eats cabbage and cornbeef! never in all my life have i eaten cabbage or cornbeef....Angels and Demons ewan mcgregors priest was orphaned when the UVF or who ever killed his parents when a bomb went off when a priest came to town! isnt richard gere's character in the jackal some ex-IRA John McClane character? *shudders* Read More

11
Posted on Saturday March 20, 2010, 09:32 by drowningbarbie
you've got a picture of sean connery, isn't he scottish? Read More

12 RE: GANGS!!
Posted on Friday March 19, 2010, 19:10 by homersimpson_esq
L: livewire Also if there is an irish man involved in any millitary type team, he's either a sniper of a bomber. hello, we can do other stuff too. sp; Yeah, but not as competently... Read More

13 On your own doorstep
Posted on Friday March 19, 2010, 18:59 by hoohaa1
Well Empire. You are forgetting your own slights against the Irish island. For in more than one article over the years, Peter O'Toole and Richard Harris have been referred to as British actors. When they are indeed Irish. Or when you gave a very poor three star rating to The Wind that Shakes the Barley one month, only to jump on the bandwagon next month when it won the Palme D'Or at Cannes, calling it a a British success (yes the director was british - the story, location and cast and producing partners were not). I'm an Irishman who works in the UK and have nothing but love for my British friends and colleagues, but when you have a small island with an even smaller indigenous film industry like ours, I think it's fair enough that we are given our dues when it comes to homegrown talents and successes. To that end consider how odd it is when certain UK critics awards put the likes of brendan gleeson and saoirse ronan in British categories, and Cate Blanchette (anRead More

14
Posted on Friday March 19, 2010, 14:17 by pyriel17
I've not seen any of these films... Read More

15 Ok
Posted on Friday March 19, 2010, 13:54 by Mort Grimm
I'm northern irish- I don't drink, sing, plant bombs, shoot people, know any bad tempered red heads, play a fiddle, or like to fight. Neither do I talk as if I have a burnring poker stuck in my larynx. I love movies, video games, 24 and pizza, I watch Letterman; I think I might secretly be... American... ...although they do shoot people. :) Read More

16 What Is It With The Magazine...And The Irish?
Posted on Friday March 19, 2010, 03:19 by benskelly
"Why does Hollywood hate Ireland?" "Why does Hollywood hate Redheads?" "The Worst Irish Stereotypes"... Change the tune already. I mean seriously...remove bug from butt. Read More

17 RE: GANGS!!
Posted on Thursday March 18, 2010, 18:33 by TheSpleen
Americans tend to cast Scottish actors to be Irish too. It's almost like they have no idea there's a difference. Mind you most brits in American films are evil geniuses or rich toffsa with bad teeth. Read More

18 RE: GANGS!!
Posted on Thursday March 18, 2010, 17:18 by livewire
would tend to agree that we're used to the stereotypes but trhe accent thing is a massive gripe with hollywood. Also if there is an irish man involved in any millitary type team, he's either a sniper of a bomber. hello, we can do other stuff too. Read More

19 GANGS!!
Posted on Thursday March 18, 2010, 16:17 by zenotrapp
You forgot Gangs of New York: Leo is the boxer Diaz is the red haired girl Liam Neeson is the priest (...and perhaps even the terrorist) Brendan Gleeson is the fisherman Read More

20
Posted on Thursday March 18, 2010, 09:17 by Grimm
The film 'Laws of Attraction' also contains the Priest and the Bar-propper stereotypes, albeit toned down. Read More

21
Posted on Thursday March 18, 2010, 05:24 by BenTramer
The writer of this article says that the Good Friday Agreement removed "the potential for endless films about 'cool' 'freedom fighters' from the province" in the eyes of American producers. Actually, most Americans have never heard of the Good Friday Agreement. It was something called 9/11 that brought home to the US that there was nothing cool about terrorism when you saw it up close on your own doorstep. As for these stereotypes being offensive, offensive to whom? Irish people just laugh about it. They have a great sense of humour about themselves and are usually the first to poke fun at themselves. Read More

22
Posted on Wednesday March 17, 2010, 23:24 by strangeone
Great article. About time someone drew some attention to this. And I hate the Boondock saints too, was there a single irishman in that whole movie? And gangs of new york was another bad one. Colin Farrell should've played Dicraprio's role, it might have made the film watchable. Someone also needs to tell film makers that not all british people are either mockney gangsters, or Hugh Grant. Read More

23 @domduck
Posted on Wednesday March 17, 2010, 21:25 by general_potatoface
domduck, I think they meant that the Hollywood Terorist was offensive because of the reality of Northern Irish Terrorism - y'know, the people getting killed? Read More

24 The American who thinks his Irish because his grandparents were?
Posted on Wednesday March 17, 2010, 16:54 by captainamazing
See most films set in New York/Boston. Go back a few generations and by that logic everyone is Irish. Read More

25 Where is number 7? The Retard Brothers in a Stupid Movie?
Posted on Wednesday March 17, 2010, 16:06 by Ichi1
Example: The Boondock Saints 1 & 2. Offensiveness: 10 to the Irish in me. 11 to the movie lover. Read More

26 Lucky To Get Any Irish At All
Posted on Wednesday March 17, 2010, 15:32 by MarDev
I Agree with all the other stereotypes, but the one that consistently annoys the piss out of me Is casting any nationality other than Irish to Play an Irish character. Brad Pitt, the fucked up family from series 2 of Heroes, Sean Bean, Nicole Kidman and Tom Cruise to name only a few. Why bother going to film on location in Ireland and hiring yanks to play minor characters? It's an insult to Irish people and it only grinds on the audience to hear shamefully bad accents. Read More

27 Was it just me...
Posted on Wednesday March 17, 2010, 13:48 by Ivan_Drago
Was it just me, or did anyone else feel the need to read this article in an Irish accent in their head? Read More

28
Posted on Wednesday March 17, 2010, 13:36 by jimmytwotimes
There's a few red-headed bar proppers round our way, none look like Margaret O'Hara tho... Read More

29
Posted on Wednesday March 17, 2010, 13:21 by LouisBond
Every single pub in my area has at least one much-hated old irish bar-propper, and I live in west London. Weird? You can tolerate their bigotted ramblings until they start singing. I'm wondering if all the bastards got kicked out of Ireland for not being amiable enough... stereotypes gallore. And I'm an intolerant suburbian wangster. Read More

30 darn it
Posted on Wednesday March 17, 2010, 12:31 by bigdave3000
i don't fall into any of these categories, i'm gonna have to sit around for 30yrs till i can become a bar-propper... :) Read More

31 You forgot about...
Posted on Wednesday March 17, 2010, 12:28 by rusty007
The cheeky, yet friendly Oirish cop that always crops up in Mid 30s set movies Read More

32 Ah...
Posted on Wednesday March 17, 2010, 11:40 by domduck
What's this last bit about? "Offensiveness rating: 10 - but in fairness that's as much because of reality than the stereotype." Are you implying that "the six counties of Northern Ireland" are indeed "peopled entirely with terrorists"? You might want to change that. Read More

33 the gangster
Posted on Wednesday March 17, 2010, 11:18 by mab
gangs of new york, road to perdition Read More


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