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How To Ensure Avengers 2 Is Awesome
We stick our oar in for Joss Whedon’s sequel

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It’s the third-highest grossing film of all time (and no, Dark Knight Rises is not going to overtake it) and one of the best-loved films of the year. The Avengers (whether they Assemble or not) blew us all away, and we were thrilled when we heard that Joss Whedon would return to write and direct Avengers 2. But what should he be thinking about as he starts work? Cheekily, entirely-unasked and utterly superfluously to requirements, we thought we’d come up with some advice for their second outing…

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How To Ensure Avengers 2 Is Awesome | Don’t Add New Characters Unless Absolutely Necessary
Don’t Add New Characters Unless Absolutely Necessary

We call this “the X-Men pitfall”. The first X-film had a core group of six good guys and four bad guys (two of whom barely did more than growl). By the third film we were up to ten core good guys and six bad guys. X-Men: Origins – Wolverine, about that famous lone wolf Canuck, had 10 core characters, about eight more than we wanted to see. X-Men: First Class had 14 principals. The Avengers is already running with six team members and two (remaining) support staff, not to mention various love-interest hangers on from the individual franchises and whatever villains rock up to the party: we do not need more than that. The great strength of the first film was that it focused on character and the interplay between the team. Surely there’s more to play with there without adding new Avengers to the mix? But if you absolutely must add someone, make it a girl.

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1 Miss Marvel please !
As we should be venturing into Skrull/Kree (+Guardians) territory, bring on the Danvers! She is an epic character, and also mind blowingly hot! Wasp = Ant Man, and that ship just 'aint gonna float. More

Posted by danielthompson99 on Wednesday August 22, 2012, 19:08

2 Superpowered Chicks!
seems only 'x men' and FF get superpowered heroines. think its time for marvel/disney to include some in the next 'avengers'. More

Posted by spark1 on Tuesday August 21, 2012, 13:14

3 Such a Joke.
As a fellow Hiddlestoner; I'm already slightly aggrivated already; I think Whedon demeanded Loki as a true threat by turning him into a joke. Also Black Widow's trick had me fuming; as it was a great build up to have berate this cold bitch; then for her to turn the tables...thanks Joss ruin it for me again you prick. PS: WHy not have LOki recruit us Hiddlestoners for his army in the sequel; we'd totally kick the Avengers asses....I get first dibs on WIdow. More

Posted by dgribble on Monday August 20, 2012, 13:03

4 RE:
L: starkidemma Speaking as a fellow hiddlestoner, we do need at least some Loki, however it's said Loki is going to be sorted out in Thor 2. Nevertheless, it will be great to see Loki back in there. Plus, the action was great but like said I loved the characters of the team having their little arguments, and these arguments have become quite famous in the Avengers Fandom. 'd love to see Loki in 'Avengers 2,' but if he does indeed get sorted out in the 2nd Thor movie, what is he going to do? If he's somehow reformed in 'Thor 2,' he might just become a background, snarky figure with not-much-to-do possibly], but not much use to it. On the other hand, if he reaches the end of 'Thor 2' still angry, bitter, jealous and bag-of-cats insane, will he just be a henchman once more to whatever baddie shows up in 'Avengers 2'? Either way, it sounds like a waste of the character. More

Posted by HighwayJoe on Saturday August 18, 2012, 01:46

5 RE: I'd understand this feature if...
I'd kinda like to see Black Widow and Hawkeye rotated out of the Avengers line-up and into their own espionage-based films, with Winter Soldier joining them - a film with the three of them could be pretty cool. Fill the spots they leave open with Carol Danvers and Scarlet Witch, balance out the male-female ratio a bit. More

Posted by sowasred2012 on Friday August 17, 2012, 13:39

6 I'd understand this feature if...
it wasn't Whedon directing. Coupling character with action is his forte, no? You'd have to be completely ignorant off Whedon's resume in order to believe he'd fluff this part of the movie up. Same goes for the quantity of the characters, but I'd like to see another female added to the mix. The only thing I don't see is Loki being a big part of the movie - and as for Thor being the most powerful member? Hulk. His anger is boundless - and so - his power. He'd have gotten out from under that hammer eventually... More

Posted by Gumptionbrash on Friday August 17, 2012, 06:33

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@ whitelighter: Have you even READ this feature??? Doesn't seem like it (if you did, go back to page Nr. 5 and read CAREFULLY) Personally, i find it ironic how a guy like Whedon, whose last show was cancelled, whose films didn't do that well in cinemas, is now the director of the third most successfull film ever! Good for him! More

Posted by Miikesmama on Thursday August 16, 2012, 19:31

8 How to ensure Avengers 2 is awesome...
I just love it when an Empire writer thinks they know more about filmmaking then the filmmakers. Really makes me Laugh Out Loud!! Hey if this writer is so confident on knowing how to make Avengers 2 awesome I'm sure Marvel would be crazy not to hire you & sack Mr Whedon since you have a clear cut way to make this movie a success. Hell why are you even wasting your time writing for Empire?? How come you're not a successful writer in Hollywood? ;) More

Posted by whitelighter on Thursday August 16, 2012, 16:58

9 Agree about Loki
Loki was the best part of the film...a menacing antagonst. More

Posted by ronniem on Thursday August 16, 2012, 16:51

10 How To Ensure Avengers 2 Is Awesome
i think i know a way to make Avengers 2 even more awesome, just get The Rock to appear in the film :D does not matter what role he will play because he will be awesome in it. More

Posted by azzman1984 on Thursday August 16, 2012, 14:36

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Speaking as a fellow hiddlestoner, we do need at least some Loki, however it's said Loki is going to be sorted out in Thor 2. Nevertheless, it will be great to see Loki back in there. Plus, the action was great but like said I loved the characters of the team having their little arguments, and these arguments have become quite famous in the Avengers Fandom. More

Posted by starkidemma on Thursday August 16, 2012, 13:43

12 RE: Empire Legends
All good points, but I elyo see Ant-Man (and maybe Wasp) join the team. Especially if (fingers crossed) he's played by Nathan Fillion. Also, I think Ultron will probably be a plot point in Ant-Man 2 and maybe the Big Bad of Avengers 3; I think this time round the focus will be all-galactic, all the time. More

Posted by britesparc on Thursday August 16, 2012, 11:56

13 Empire Legends
I love the little nod to The How It Should Have Ended Avengers episode with the bit about eating shwarma. It may not have been intentional but it was great fun to see. More

Posted by CambiMan on Thursday August 16, 2012, 11:27

14 Empire Legends
I love the little nod to The How It Should Have Ended Avengers episode with the bit about eating shwarma. It may not have been intentional but it was great fun to see. More

Posted by CambiMan on Thursday August 16, 2012, 11:27

15 RE: Here's what I think will happen...
L: darko18 ...over the course of the next few films. Don't want to know? Too bad! In the Ant-Man film, Hank Pym creates The Vision and both agree to become Avengers. As a result of the events of Captain America 2: The Winter Soldier, Steve Rogers gets The Falcon to join the Avengers. The Guardians Of The Galaxy will end up with the Guardians having given Thanos a severe beating. There's no way Thanos won't be involved in GOTG; Drax the Destroyer and Moondragon are heavily tied to him. It will end with Thanos grovelling to Galactus, whom he's working with/for. He pleads to be given another chance to prove his worth and says he'll lead Galactus to a planet for consumption - Earth. Galactus accepts. Cut to Asgard post-Thor: The Dark World. Thanos intends to snatch the Infinity Gauntlet and lays waste to Asgard in the process of looking for it. Thor decides to challenge Thanos, but just before engaging in combat decides to ask Loki for help or advice - he's grownMore

Posted by TPM007 on Thursday August 16, 2012, 10:53

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Meh, I don't buy point 4. The action was about the only thing that shut Robert Downey Jr up. Yes, he's meant to be clever, smart, funny etc. but does EVERYTHING he says have to be a one-liner? More

Posted by sifter132 on Wednesday August 15, 2012, 23:07

17 Will Renner runner-away-er?
I loved Avengers, but the only complaint I can think of (aside from the cannon-fodder villains) was that Hawkeye did not get nearly enough screentime or development. Spending at least half his screentime as a henchman, he got some nice emotional moments with Black Widow nearer the end and hints at a story-but being a badass character isn't enuogh. i want to see Hawkeye (and Black Widow's relationship) developed as well as S.H.I.E.L.D. whilst still retaining the cool moves and dry wit (briefly shown in Thor) that I love. Do that with him without losing focus on the rest of the characters and I will be happy. (Along with everything else on this list). More

Posted by jokerjoker2896 on Wednesday August 15, 2012, 21:27

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