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“We are the dwarves of Erebor. We have come to reclaim our homeland,” says Thorin (Richard Armitage). “I offer you my help,” replies Pace’s Thranduil – but there’s a slight rising intonation on that last word that implies conditions - unsurprising since we know that Thranduil is an isolationist and wants no part of other peoples' conflicts. This is a new scene added for the film; in the book, Thorin is taken by the Wood-elves after stumbling into the midst of one of their outdoor banquets, but refuses on interrogation to tell them about his quest or why he’s in the forest of Mirkwood. The rest of the dwarves, captured soon after, are similarly reticent. In the book, the King just throws them in the dungeon until they feel more loquacious.

We wonder, a little, if these two quotes actually fit together. The next bit, where Dwalin (Graham McTavish) asks Thorin, “How do we know he won’t betray us?” and Thorin answers, “We don’t” doesn’t seem to fit with Thranduil at all. Given that they’re in a boat at the time, it’s far more likely that they’re talking about either someone from Laketown or Bilbo himself at that point.

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1 Thorin: addressing Thranduil or Bard?
On page 3 Thorin says "...we have come to reclaim our homeland" and he clearly isn't in Thranduil's palace who can't be replying as you say in the article...check out the 'snow' and the guards behind Thorin as they are identical to those in the scene on page 7 where Bard is speaking. This would suggest the conversation takes place in Laketown. More

Posted by ForeignCorrespondent on Thursday October 10, 2013, 14:07

2 Ring Vision
I don't think Bilbo's wearing the Ring in that opening shot at Erebor. If he is, where are the ghostly/misty distortions that usually go along with it? My thoughts are that Bilbo's simply walking around at that point (perhaps even with the dwarves, as Thorin is later shown to also be inside Erebor with him), and hasn't stumbled upon Smaug yet. More

Posted by HighwayJoe on Tuesday October 8, 2013, 13:40

3 Quick Correction
On page 9 you said that Gandalf investigated Dol Guldur in the first movie when in fact it was Radagast. In the book however, it WAS Gandalf More

Posted by Hugh_Fran on Thursday October 3, 2013, 02:27

4 Can't wait!
Roll on December says I! I couldn't give a hoots that the book has been stretched out over three movies, it just means more Middle Earth to enjoy! More

Posted by Hugh_Fran on Thursday October 3, 2013, 02:18

5 My fundamental problem
with these films is that whereas with LOTR Jackson was reducing a bloated book down to a workable story and (dare I say it) improving on the source material, the opposite's happening with the Hobbit. The book has enough plot for one film but it's being stretched and mutated into three, so regardless of how good a job everyone involved puts in it just can't be as good. But honestly I don't mind, no one else makes films like this and it's just indescribably wonderful to visit Middle-Earth again More

Posted by bleugh07 on Thursday October 3, 2013, 00:39

6 I'll be the geek and say it
Sauron was defeated by Isildur etc 3000 years before the events of FOTR, so he is still very much incorporeal during The Hobbit More

Posted by Klamath on Wednesday October 2, 2013, 23:53

7 Cumberbatch Voice
I wouldn't assume that it wasn't just him and the microphone. When he voiced the Angel Islington, which was equally unusual (though different), director Dirk Maggs said it was done without enhancement. (I believe it was Mr. Maggs who said that) More

Posted by TrinaLovesInfo on Wednesday October 2, 2013, 10:35

8 RE: Why Helen why?
Gazme, or you could watch the trailer direct in our news story... More

Posted by Helen OHara on Wednesday October 2, 2013, 07:32

9 @PACEBROWS
Wonder how long it will take for Thranduil's eyebrows to get a Twitter page. More

Posted by HulkySmashSmash on Wednesday October 2, 2013, 00:33

10 Why Helen why?
Having to click through 13 pages of spoilers before getting to see the trailer...its just cruel ms so called o'hara :) More

Posted by Gazme on Tuesday October 1, 2013, 23:35

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