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| Posted on Sunday January 1, 2012, 20:39 by Arek.Zacharski |
The list missing "The Saragossa Manuscript" and "Stalker", both should be at very top of this list., "Promised Land" by Wajda could make it into first 50 as well. Also Tarkovsky movies (Solaris, Andrei Rublev) should be placed higher. Read More
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| 2 | Good list |
| Posted on Thursday December 15, 2011, 18:31 by MrPinkBatman |
That's a great list, I'm only surprised that Leningrad Cowboys was the only finnish movie on the list. The Unknown Soldier could've had been here. After seeing this list I'm going to buy Infernal Affairs, The Seventh Seal, Downfall and maybe Let The Right One In and Battle Royale. Read More
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| Posted on Monday December 5, 2011, 10:00 by rachelparker |
no La vita è bella or Banlieue 13? Read More
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| 4 | Unforgivable omissions |
| Posted on Saturday November 19, 2011, 07:06 by benwoulds |
1. Grand Illusion - wow, arguably #1, just ask Orson Welles
2. The Passion of Joan of Arc
3. La Strada
4. L'Atalante
5. Mirror
6. Fanny and Alexander
7. Le Million
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| 5 | Great list but no Iranian films??? |
| Posted on Monday November 14, 2011, 20:24 by MaryGet89 |
After going through this list I got a little bit puzzled because I haven't seen Iranian films in it. What about the films by acclaimed Iranian filmmakers like Kiarostami, Makhmalbaf, Mehrjui. To my mind this list does not represent the films from Islamic coutries at all - what about their perspective? It's terrific that you put "Persepolis" here but it's not quite Iranian production, is it? Read More
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| 6 | An Interesting List but missing quite a few |
| Posted on Monday October 24, 2011, 11:30 by MrRenegadePhoenix |
Pan's Labyrinth, City of God, The Seventh Seal, Battleship Potemkin, Seven Samurai, Spirited Away - definately worthy of top 10 placement but where my two favourite films: Grave of the Fireflies & The Lives of Others? They are such great films and deserved placement in the top 50 without a doubt. Read More
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| 7 | Could ve been better |
| Posted on Friday September 16, 2011, 09:39 by hashirkareem |
its impossible to make a top 100 list to satisfy all.. a real greatest movie list should have no number limit .. having said that,i think this list is quite strange !
Amelie is without doubt a very good film..but the 2nd best film of all time ?? you've got to be kidding !! that too when 81/2 is somewhere in the 60s !! Godard, Fellini etc should be much higher on any list !
There is hardly any representation of Iranian Cinema which has produced some of the best of world cinema in the last 3 or 4 decades !
At least one Emir Kusturica movie should've been on the list..there are many that it could've replaced.
The Indian choices have veered towards blockbusters rather than good cinema.. Including Devdas is like having "the Titanic" on the list of greatest movies .. its a blockbuster, no doubt, but is completely out of place on this list.. same goes for Lagaan or Mother India (though both are good films they are, by no means, ground breaking cinema) .. Films by Ghatak (coRead More
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| 8 | It Could be More International |
| Posted on Thursday June 30, 2011, 19:43 by bernpire |
I don't disagree with the selection of films, but I do disagree with the lack of films from countries with an important film industry, such as Argentina, South Africa or Egypt. Well, Nigeria's Nollywood is indeed important, but I haven't seen yet a Nollywood film which I would argue for. I do think that Argentina's Carlos Sorin, has directed more than one film which should be here. Read More
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| 9 | Pathetic |
| Posted on Tuesday June 28, 2011, 23:43 by Elishebaall |
This list is outrageous.No Bresson films, no Bunuel films(except Un chien andalou), directors such as Godard and Tarkovskij are extremely low-ranked, while Amelie is considered to be a number 2.
At number 37, on "Rome Open City", you wrote "Magnagni as a pregnant Communist sympathizer and Fabrizzi as a noble priest", managing to spell incorrectly the names of both actors, Magnani and Fabrizi.
As part of the non-english speaking world I thank you for taking the non-english film world in such attentive consideration.
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| 10 | Missing |
| Posted on Wednesday June 1, 2011, 00:31 by Rati23 |
Where the F..K is The Lives of Others, Princess Mononoke, Grave of Fireflies? Read More
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| Posted on Wednesday May 18, 2011, 06:52 by Ferociousaurus |
I also feel like La Vita e Bella is a pretty big snub. Other than that, good list. Read More
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| 12 | Great Hungarian films |
| Posted on Friday April 15, 2011, 12:43 by Bipbip |
gri csillagok (1968, Stars of Eger) - historical war drama. ---- on IMDB fekete varos (1971 TV-series, The Black Town): ---- on IMDBonfoglalas (1996, The Conquest): ------ on IMDB]
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| 13 | Bad selection |
| Posted on Sunday April 10, 2011, 18:33 by Von Goom |
Irreversible, La femme Nikita, Khadak, Taste of Cherry, La Vita e Bella are out
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| 14 | RE: What?! |
| Posted on Monday November 22, 2010, 16:09 by sharkboy |
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| 15 | RE: Great list, but.. |
| Posted on Tuesday July 6, 2010, 07:56 by bizarro |
My only real gripe with the list is how low Ikiru is. Read More
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| 16 | RE: Pffft amend the list already |
| Posted on Sunday June 27, 2010, 21:26 by LastSamurai |
After reading some posts i've watched a few of the films that weren't on the Top 100 list. Just finiished watchin Irreversible and WOW , great film. Gritty, real, and dark. Nicely acted and the "memento style" chronological way the film plays worked very well. Starts off a little slow but really gets going after 15 mins or so. If you've not seen this id personally recommend it. Defo a top 20 for me now.
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| 17 | RE: RE: |
| Posted on Sunday June 27, 2010, 12:03 by eldiabolik |
I didn't see any Robert Bresson on that list, which in turn makes any such list worthless. A joke in fact. Read More
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| 18 | RE: |
| Posted on Saturday June 26, 2010, 22:15 by fernetcontonica |
I also think is worthy but being foreign myself and most films to my eyes too I find it rather odd myself and a list of myself would not be like this at all but that's a cultural perception issue. There's a set of films that hoarde the attention and some truly awesome stuff is not even left off on purpose because they don't even get any presence. Sometimes films that arrived here quickly take even a couple of years to hit the UK. It's not Empire's fault at all but I'd like to see them venturing deeper into the films the world offers.
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| 19 | RE: What is the "world" anyway? |
| Posted on Friday June 25, 2010, 16:32 by rawlinson |
L: Julmis
I'm sure I'm not the first person to comment on the vaguely patronising tone of this whole thing, effectively setting a separate kids table for films made in other languages.
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Or maybe it's a magazine trying to expand the viewing of their core fanbase by recommending 100 non-English language films? The list might not be perfect, these kind of lists never are, but it's a worthy aim. Talking about it as a kid's table is just seeing what you want to see instead of what's actually there.
films are then selected from those known in this country, leaving in the wilderness hundreds of possibly great or greater films which have not had the luck or funding to come to the attention of the English-speaking world. p;
And maybe the more that publications like Empire encourage an interest in foreign language films the more likely it is that a fanbase will grow and people will find themselves searching out more obscure films. Read More
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| 20 | RE: What is the "world" anyway? |
| Posted on Friday June 25, 2010, 16:20 by elab49 |
World Cinema would be a standard recognised category in this country used by all sites and DVD outlets. It is clearly from really one point of view - but it is a British magazine, so World being defined as non-English language isn't patronising. It just 'is'. Read More
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| 21 | RE: RE: |
| Posted on Monday June 21, 2010, 23:55 by TimBurtonVoodooGirl |
I think Pan's Labyrinth should of been higher, it's one of the best films ever made!!
And I agree with Popcorn Required, where is Amores Perros?? And also films like Life Is Beautiful, Talk To Her, Volver. You said that Women On The Verge Of A Nervous Breakdown wasn't as scrubbed up as Volver, so why didn't you include volver in your list?? >.> Apart from that, some pretty good films, not sure how much I agree with the rankings though :-/ Un Chien Andalou should of been a bit higher I think, though. 80 years and it still manages to shock and disturb it's audiences, that is impressive. Read More
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| 22 | RE: RE: |
| Posted on Monday June 21, 2010, 16:13 by spamandham |
Oh and this list inspired me to finally get round to watching Let the right one in.
So well done.
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| 23 | RE: |
| Posted on Monday June 21, 2010, 16:11 by spamandham |
The 'what not to say' on the Polanski entry made me lol Read More
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| 24 | RE: This list sucks |
| Posted on Sunday June 20, 2010, 22:43 by Miles Messervy 007 |
L: shady_88
Höstsonaten
oh you make me laugh
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| 25 | RE: nice list, but... |
| Posted on Sunday June 20, 2010, 19:13 by Ultimo Lee |
L: nunojordao
where's Gomorra?
ame 852th........which is way too high
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| 26 | RE: RE: |
| Posted on Sunday June 20, 2010, 02:07 by Perros |
Absolutely terrible list. Good movies, terrible rankings. Also, no way in hell should Spirited Away be that high in the list. I've seen this movie twice and it's not as good as you all make it out to be. Read More
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| Posted on Saturday June 19, 2010, 23:45 by hiptobesquare_x |
It isn't an appalling list but when you consider the fact that it is composed of every film not from the UK or the USA then 100 is a ridiculously small number to narrow it down to. I think it's as good a place as any to start for someone who wants to get in to World Cinema (eurgh how naff that sounds...). You get the picture. Read More
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| 28 | RE: This list sucks |
| Posted on Saturday June 19, 2010, 23:01 by swordsandsandals |
L: shady_88
oh Empire, you make me laugh
hy? Because they don't have exactly the same film taste as you? Read More
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| 29 | RE: Another interesting addition to the list... |
| Posted on Saturday June 19, 2010, 17:09 by Miles Messervy 007 |
L: elab49
It'd certainly be interesting definition wise if posters like Dantes and Fernetcontonica took part ote]Eh-khm.
The list is an odd mix, but I had suitably low expectations and a horrible film at number 2 is sort of redeemed by some of the more interesting choices. Read More
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| 30 | RE: Top 100 |
| Posted on Saturday June 19, 2010, 01:38 by LastSamurai |
Hmmm... Ichi the Killer? Plus im enjoying hearing everyones opinions on other films they think should be on the list. The several that a few people have mentioned that weren't i'm gonna try and watch. Perhaps if people could write a little about each film that was missed off people can just look em up and draw there own conclusions. Then we could perhaps do our own Top 100 with a more "educated" audience.
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| Posted on Thursday June 17, 2010, 14:46 by Qwerty Norris |
A good list there Empire, admittedly there's a lot I haven't seen but looking at what's on it I'm intrigued to see a number of stuff there.
Still, I'm pretty disappointed you couldn't find a spot for the likes of Fitzcarraldo, the Lives of Others, the Diving Bell & the Butterfly, Au Revoir Les Enfants & the Return- and yet find room for the likes of Infernal Affairs to be so high on the list.
Each to their own though I guess.....
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| 32 | RE: The 100 Best Films Of World Cinema |
| Posted on Tuesday June 15, 2010, 19:28 by demoncleaner |
Just to point out a wee bijou error-ette (for my own near-sexual gratification than for editorial concern) but the Rashomon remake that credits Kurosawa as co-writer is ragebsp; lawsp;
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| 33 | RE: Another interesting addition to the list... |
| Posted on Tuesday June 15, 2010, 00:18 by benskelly |
L: rawlinson
L: swordsandsandals
Films not in the English Language then?
With the obvious rule that Na'vi doesn't count as a language.
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| 34 | RE: Another interesting addition to the list... |
| Posted on Tuesday June 15, 2010, 00:17 by rawlinson |
L: swordsandsandals
Films not in the English Language then?
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| 35 | RE: Mesrine!!!?? |
| Posted on Monday June 14, 2010, 22:03 by Piles |
L: Bobby TwoTimes
Possibly one of the greatest gangster movies ever made, certainly Vincent Cassel's masterpiece and the best French films since Irreversible (another one missing!).
Not a great list Empire, it must be said.
here's not a single Rohmer film in this list and you are complaining about Mesrine?
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| 36 | RE: Another interesting addition to the list... |
| Posted on Monday June 14, 2010, 21:59 by Piles |
Also, Amelie at number two? Highest Godard at number 75? And that's 'Breathless'? Your list is rubbish. Read More
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| 37 | RE: Another interesting addition to the list... |
| Posted on Monday June 14, 2010, 21:58 by benskelly |
So true, Piles.
You gotta' admit though - sure gets us clicking like monkeys with a cocaine button. Read More
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| 38 | RE: Another interesting addition to the list... |
| Posted on Monday June 14, 2010, 21:55 by Piles |
Dear Empire,
Please in future can you make it so I don't have to press next a hundred times before I can be outraged by one of your lists. I would much rather be outraged in the space of a simple scroll down a texted list.
Thanks.
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| 39 | RE: Another interesting addition to the list... |
| Posted on Monday June 14, 2010, 21:53 by swordsandsandals |
Films not in the English Language then? Read More
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| 40 | RE: Another interesting addition to the list... |
| Posted on Monday June 14, 2010, 21:35 by elab49 |
It'd certainly be interesting definition wise if posters like Dantes and Fernetcontonica took part Read More
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| 41 | RE: Another interesting addition to the list... |
| Posted on Monday June 14, 2010, 21:24 by swordsandsandals |
Top 100 World Cinema films - that could be an interesting one for us lot at Lists, Elab. Read More
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| 42 | RE: Another interesting addition to the list... |
| Posted on Monday June 14, 2010, 20:07 by elab49 |
'course posters could list their personal top 100 World Cinema films, and also confirm they've seen each and every one of the Empire 100.
Just for context. Read More
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| 43 | RE: Another interesting addition to the list... |
| Posted on Monday June 14, 2010, 19:39 by rawlinson |
L: swordsandsandals
How many more people are just going to list films they like but aren't in? They couldn't include every film, and chances are they don't like the one you keep harping on about as much as you do. Simple as that.
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| 44 | RE: Another interesting addition to the list... |
| Posted on Monday June 14, 2010, 18:29 by swordsandsandals |
How many more people are just going to list films they like but aren't in? They couldn't include every film, and chances are they don't like the one you keep harping on about as much as you do. Simple as that.
On another note, where was Once? I get it was in English, but it should be in every list ever. Read More
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| 45 | RE: Very Bad Empire. |
| Posted on Monday June 14, 2010, 17:54 by SYMONDS |
That what I said, using some what dubious grammer. Read More
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| 46 | RE: |
| Posted on Monday June 14, 2010, 13:28 by Kendra71 |
Please tell me I'm not the only person who saw and loved Avalon ? Wondered about the awesome Belleville Triplets, but couldn't think whether it was foreign language or in fact silent except for the song. Happy to see Pan's Labyrinth so high. I wish I could speak spanish so I could watch the film instead of the subtitles, but its still fantastic. Battle Royle should have been higher as its a riot. Interesting list all in all. Reminded me to put Metropolis on my Amazon wish list. Read More
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| 47 | RE: Very Bad Empire. |
| Posted on Monday June 14, 2010, 12:25 by dankeane |
Eh... Das Boot was made in 1981. What are you talking about? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082096/ Read More
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| 48 | RE: |
| Posted on Monday June 14, 2010, 07:46 by benskelly |
L: KillerKane
Irreversible?
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| 49 | RE: Oldboy is good enough to be that high in the list. |
| Posted on Monday June 14, 2010, 07:37 by benskelly |
Wow, a lot of posters on here have terrible taste...
BATTLE ROYALE is utter crap. It is one of the stupidest films I've ever seen.
SUSPIRIA is the second biggest piece of crap.
CROUCHING TIGER has it's moments, but is incredibly overrated.
FLYING DAGGERS, on the other hand, is a giddy fucking masterpiece and visual feast - so for those of you saying "what???"...you're wrong. Just FYI.
Now could we stop mentioning THE LIVES OF OTHERS over and over again? It was a very good film, maybe great, and should have been in the lower half of the list.
I criticized the list, but jokingly. It's a fine list. There's no pleasing everyone. And I love all these people who want to fill the Top Ten only with films from the last five years. Gimme' a break. Watch an old movie once in a while, you snotnosed brats. Otherwise you really have no idea what you're talking about. AndRead More
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| Posted on Monday June 14, 2010, 01:28 by Ultimo Lee |
Why when there's a list is there so many first time posters?
Not bad managed to have seen 53 of them, my top 10 in no particular order would be
City of God
Oldboy
Infernal Affairs
Festen
Jean de Florette / Manon des Sources
A Prophet
The Vanishing
Hard Boiled
Battle Royale
Goodbye Lenin
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| 51 | RE: |
| Posted on Sunday June 13, 2010, 18:12 by Deviation |
Yes there are some strange omissions but still a great 100 List nontheless. Read More
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| 52 | RE: Missing in favor of violence? |
| Posted on Saturday June 12, 2010, 23:18 by swordsandsandals |
I'm going to focus on the positives.
The Seven Samurai, Ikiru, My Neighbour Totoro, Spirited Away, Aguirre, City of God, Pan's Labyrinth and others are all masterpieces. I'm only in the Top 50 at the moment as well. Read More
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| 53 | RE: Missing in favor of violence? |
| Posted on Saturday June 12, 2010, 20:29 by benskelly |
Okay, I have my gripes as well...
First of all, not including PELLE THE CONQUERER is a sin of the highest order. Secondly, HOUSE OF THE FLYING DAGGERS should be much higher up, and I'd dump CROUCHING TIGER...
Then you need to open up your eyes to Jacques Becker's French crime masterpieces: LE TROU (THE HOLE), TOUCHEZ PAS AU GRISBI, and CASQUE D'OR.
And the Japanese samurai classic HARA KIRI.
And where's BETTY BLUE? Or, for that matter, LA FEMME NIKITA??
Carry on.
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| 54 | RE: RE: |
| Posted on Saturday June 12, 2010, 16:07 by evildave69 |
Reader's Poll eh? Do you not remember 'The 50 Worst Films Ever' list. If anything it proves that readers as a collective, whether Empire or not, no a truck load of fuck-all. Read More
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| 55 | RE: |
| Posted on Saturday June 12, 2010, 15:42 by JapStrangler |
L: mcclane3011
Just the 1 bruce lee movie? Hardboiled needs to be much higher! and what about the killer...where the hell was that??!! Also what about jackie Chan's project A. At the risk of pissing a lot of people off seven samurai is much over rated and needs to be much lower. Korean war epic brotherhood should be on the list.Perhaps next time this kind of list is done it should be a list compiled by readers.
ally, why can't we have a reader's poll?
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| 56 | RE: |
| Posted on Saturday June 12, 2010, 10:09 by itzibitzius |
They mixed up the descriptions of Touki Bouki and Xala... Get it sorted Empire! Read More
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| 57 | RE: Did I miss BETTY BLUE in there? wtf |
| Posted on Friday June 11, 2010, 21:58 by Megalo-who? |
L: Wrathschild
and how about STALKER hmmm.
ther than Andrei Rublev and Solaris, Empire never mentions Tarkovsky. But yes, Mirror, Stalker, Notalgia and The Sacrifice should all be on there. Oh yeah and The Lives Of Others, a glaring omission considering the populist nature of the list and the fact that it towers above. Read More
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| 58 | Devdas and Lagaan, seriously? |
| Posted on Friday June 11, 2010, 20:16 by SultanAmeer |
I won't argue about great movies like Rashomon and Nosferatu are lower in the list than less-great movie like Let The Right One In, City of God and Pan's Labyrinth because this won't change the mind of the person(s) who compiled that list but what about two not so great Bollywood movies in the list. Devdas and Lagaan both upper in the list than Mother India, seriously? Even most Bollywood critics won't agree with that. What about real great Bollywood movies like Pyaasa, Devdas (1955), Do Bigha Zamin, these movies are way better than Devdas and Lagaan and they are not even in that list. They should've research more before compiling that list.
What's the issue with this quote "Shahrukh Khan isn't the Tom Cruise of Bollywood. Tom Cruise is the Shahrukh Khan of Hollywood!" They certainly didn't watch Shahrukh Khan's other performances or they just don't like Tom Cruise.
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| 59 | RE: |
| Posted on Friday June 11, 2010, 19:31 by The Waco Kid |
what about Man bites dog ( i thought it was bloody funny)
or two films i think beat jean de florette/manon des source they being
la gloire de mon pere
le chateau de ma mere
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| 60 | RE: |
| Posted on Friday June 11, 2010, 18:42 by Boyden |
What is the reasoning to leaving out The Lives of others, Irreversible, Funny Games and Alexander Nevsky? Read More
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| 61 | RE: Honestly, how could you miss |
| Posted on Friday June 11, 2010, 16:12 by livila |
L: Phanda03
Au revoir, les enfants?????
ve that film too. Read More
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| 62 | RE: Great list |
| Posted on Friday June 11, 2010, 16:08 by livila |
L: edwardon
Great list, but I'd also like to have seen included Letters from Iwo Jima, The Lives of Others, La Mala Educacion, Eat Drink Man Woman, The Orphanage and e Margotote]
Yes, definately La Reine Margot. I think with a proper dvd release rather than the cut US version, this film would be remembered again. Full version is available in Germany but not France.
Other than that, great list. Personally I'd have After the Wedding, Volver and Twin Sisters in there. Read More
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| 63 | RE: COME AND SEE'S A BIG PILE OF SHIT! |
| Posted on Friday June 11, 2010, 16:04 by Mrs.Doyle |
Ki-duk Kim's 2003 , Summer, Fall, Winter... and Spring"eoreum gaeul gyeoul geurigo bom) anyone?? Amazing Korean film that had us enthralled when shown on TV a few years back./align]Also nd Jim]Cinema Paradiso Top Ten! Read More
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| 64 | RE: Missing? |
| Posted on Friday June 11, 2010, 14:24 by tftrman |
Some of the suggestions people are making just wouldn't get near a top 100 list -
City Of Lost Children - It's good but uneven in tone and the ending is badly written.
Sympathy For Mr Vengeance - Not even the best of Chan-wook's vengeance trilogy
Irreversible - That's a tough one, it's a really powerful film but there's no re-watch appeal for me so wouldn't make the list either.
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| 65 | RE: Missing? |
| Posted on Friday June 11, 2010, 13:58 by Helen OHara |
Just to address a few of the points raised, we make no apologies whatsoever for the films on the list or their placement. This list was derived from a MUCH longer long list which included most of those y'all have suggested (except A Very Long Engagement - it ain't all that) and we narrowed it down to something that felt fair and representative to us.
On a couple of the smaller mistakes, we're fixing those now. The classification of Persepolis and Un Chien Andalou as non-French was partly because of the directors and partly (if I'm honest) trying not to make it such a home run for the darn Frenchies, who have a nasty habit of making consistently brilliant films.
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| 66 | RE: I'll be the first to bitch... |
| Posted on Friday June 11, 2010, 11:14 by Funkyrae |
L: Snake-Eyes
THE ORPHANAGE? IRREVERSIBLE? actually, 'The greatest films not in the English language'? o where were PASSION OF THE CHRIST and APOCALYPTO?at about Snake-Eyes' Favourite - LE PACTE DES LOUPS?!
opefully in the bin where they belong! Read More
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