When Bad Films Turn Good
Posted on Friday November 9, 2007, 16:01 by Olly Richards in Empire States
I was watching some late night TV the other night…OK, it was only about 9.30pm, but I’m getting on now, so that’s pretty much past my bedtime. Anyway, I stumbled across Van Helsing on my channel flicking travails and, despite an initial snort of derision, found myself unable to leave.
When this was released at the cinema, I left the press screening with some churning emotion made of the worst parts of disappointment, resentment and too much popcorn. I couldn’t stand the thing. It was a horribly missed opportunity, one of the worst films of the year and a further reason to kick Stephen Sommers in the soft parts should our paths ever cross. But on second viewing I realised that it is in fact…AWESOME.
What is not to love? You have some Transylvanian accents that skirt the darker depths of Bulgaria, Kazakhstan and Cleethorpes; a Frankenstein’s monster who looks like Mama Fratelli after an hour in a pressure cooker; Kate Beckinsale in impractically comely outfits that suggest she might be going to a Halloween party dressed as both members of Heart; Richard Roxburgh, as Dracula, devouring great lumps of scenery without needing to engage that expandable jaw; Will Kemp giving absolute commitment to quite possibly the worst werewolf transformation committed to film; Hugh Jackman wearing Courtney Cox’s hair; and – as a cherry on the cake – some gas masked midgets on fire. It’s glorious. The entire film is worth watching just for the moment when Roxburgh coughs out the line: “I am…HOLLOW”.
What I clearly failed to do was appreciate this movie for what it was: a brilliant bad film, that rare treat that gets so many things wrong and with such enthusiasm that you can’t help but love the hell out of it. So, it will now join Killing Me Softly, The Master of Disguise (his name’s Pistachio Disguisey!) and Batman and Robin on the pile of films that I will inevitably pick up when either hungover or supposed to be watching something by Jane Campion or someone equally Oscar-nominated but dull.
Which bad movie’s do you love to love? Now, if you’ll excuse me, it’s just coming up to the bit where David Wenham gets chased across a bridge by a cattle prod-wielding Igor, and I really don’t want to miss that.
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Posted on Friday November 9, 2007, 16:57
Are you out of your mind!?
Regardless of the "highlights" you mention, it's not possible to defend Van Helsing in any way possible.
It's a sloppy, overindulgent mess of a film that even my missus (who frankly can watch any old crap) came out of the cinema and exclaimed that it was the shittest film she's ever seen.
And don't even get me started on that final shot. Y'know, the one in the clouds. Christ, I nearly threw up my popcorn when I saw that.
Posted on Friday November 9, 2007, 17:25
Batman and Robin will only ever be just plain BAD. I do love "Remo - unarmed and dangerous (A.K.A Remo Williams - the legend begins)". Bullet dodging, statue of liberty climbing and water running all ace. The quotes are great too...
"A fool chatters, but the wise man listens".
Posted on Friday November 9, 2007, 17:43
I always quite liked the fight at the end of Van Helsing with Dracula vs (essentially) Wolf-Man - it was pretty good in terms of fanboy wish fulfilment, like Freddy Vs. Jason was. Plus Hugh winds up accidentally killing Kate, which tickled me a little.
I'm gonna vote for 2 Fast 2 Furious in this category, there's so many problems with it and most of them stem from the film having a really, really pathetic villain (except for the rat in the bucket on the belly torture) which then makes the whole plot seem a bit shit and easy to not pay attention to, BUT the chemistry and the banter between Paul Walker and Tyrese absolutely cracks me up, they're like two squabbling children who happen to be able to drive really fast cars at stupid speeds BACKWARDS just to flip the other one the bird.
Posted on Friday November 9, 2007, 18:11
Commando has to be the ultimate example of brilliantly bad! Or perhaps a Van-damme/steven seagal effort, doesnt matter which.
Big trouble in little china was a movie made greater by its dodgy moments (how dyou kill the big bad? you catch the knife he throws at you and throw it back. Problem solved)
Showdown in little tokyo was a brilliantly crap film as well.
Posted on Friday November 9, 2007, 18:54
Batman & Robin? Mate, you must be joking!
But I do see Van Helsing's appeal as well; I was told by a mate that it's a genuinely good bad film, which is one of my favourite sub-genres anyway. And indeed, there are numerous moments to cherish, I agree.
My list of good bad films is actually rather lengthy, therefore I'll have to hand-pick a few:
Airport '80 - Robert Wagner as evil arms dealer, who commits the weirdest movie suicide of the late 70s! And then there's so much more...
Mr. Babysitter - Terry 'Hulk' Hogan/Bollea is taking care of some rich spoilt kids who are under attack from an evildoer with a metal helmet, implanted to keep his brains from spilling out, which he uses to drive against his oponents!
The Patriot - Steven Seagal is old, fat and darn slow with the knife, but also loving nature and fighting for it! And when his best friend gets killed he rides his horse trough nowhere, wearing an expression on his face which is half-a-smile, half squeezing out a fart.
On Deadly Ground - Steven Seagal is not so old and still rather fast with everything, so when evil Michael Caine (who's just short of a Doctor Evil laughter in this one) wants to do something bad to nature he has to fight! Nobody should be left untouched by the wonderful dream sequence, in which Seagal (the closest to Laurence Olivier he'll ever get) has for some reason to decide between a hot Indian chick with bare boobs and an old Indian granny with hanging boobs and a weakness for wacky chants, which somehow represent good and evil.
Posted on Friday November 9, 2007, 19:39
I may put Van Helsing in the 'so-bad-it's-good' category in a few years time, but for now it's just an awful letdown. A missed opportunity in every sense, along the lines of Alexander, Batman Forever and The Da Vinci Code (if you're looking for completely random examples).
On the other hand, films which are way beyond criticsm, genius for all the wrong reasons and quite possibly divine are:
Teen Agent: As a spy film it's more believable than Die Another Day and it spawned a sub-genre for crying out loud! See Spy Kids, Stormbreaker and Agent Cody Banks. Or don't bother and just watch Teen Agent instead.
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: The most watchable bad film of all time. Connery's on form, the action's decent and it looks great. But it is still terrible. And that is a recommendation.
Escape From LA: I loathed it upon release, but watched it years later and appreciated its rough edges. The effects are cringe worthy and it adds nothing new to its prequel but it does feature Kurt Russell as Snake and that outweighs all the other negative stuff.
An American Werewolf in Paris: Like Van Helsing, this overuses
CGI to an effect that's neither convincing or scary. Unlike Van Helsing, this features a sex scene on Jim Morrisons grave and a bungee jump off Le Tour Eiffel.
Posted on Friday November 9, 2007, 19:50
Hey, well I personally LOVED Van helsing when it first came out and even now it still stands the test of time (albeit is few years 1-3) hehe. It was trashy, action packed had the best werewolves I've ever seen on Cinema to date.
But I totally agree. The only thing I'd say your on your own with is the whole BATMAN AND ROBIN thing. That is totally not sexy and theres no way in this god green earth that I'm going to be convinced that, that movie was so bad is was good. Because quite frankly it was so bad it was shite. Thats all I have to say.
Ps Viva Van Helsing
Posted on Friday November 9, 2007, 19:52
Its bad, a thousand times more awful than I ever thought possible but I do have a soft spot for "The Core", "Poseidon", "Dead or Alive" and Ray Liotta peddling tosh "No Escape". All bad movies that are in their own way entertaining.
Posted on Friday November 9, 2007, 20:14
The Mummy Returns = a bad film which i love.
Posted on Friday November 9, 2007, 20:18
This is a part of that great pantheon that me and my friends like to call "Shittingly Good" - A film that is only good because of its absolutely awful components
Posted on Friday November 9, 2007, 20:22
I too hated Van Helsing when I saw it at the cinema, but after watching again on TV, well, I'm afraid I still hate it!
I've always had a soft spot for Howard The Duck: it's trashy, and plain wrong in places, but you know, I kind of enjoy it whenever it's on!
Posted on Friday November 9, 2007, 20:46
Anything with DMX in, preferably accompanied by a past-his-prime action star, or kind of remaking 40's classics. I'm still waiting for the spectacular sequel to half past dead - a quarter to alive.
Also Kickboxer, and most of all, Roadhouse. A movie laden with such a level of unnecessarily graphic violence and gratuitous nudity that it must be celebrated.
Posted on Friday November 9, 2007, 21:57
Van Helsing canm in no way, be described as 'good' let alone 'awesome'. It is utterly horrific - a bland, senseless mess that reeks of squandered talent and empty-headed commercialism run rampant. That a film focusing on an agent of The Vatican offing the Spawn of Satan wherever it may rear its head turned out to be so incredibly naff is genuinely unforgiveable given the brilliance of that premise.
Posted on Friday November 9, 2007, 22:08
I know exactly what your talking about. You read the pre-release hype, your holding for what should epitomise a genre and deliver action, effects as well as story. The film turns out to fall way short of the mark and your utterly dissapointed!! Time goes on, and your impression of the film was that awful experience you had going to watch it at the cinema. However, random circumstance brings you around to watching it again. Now, you expect shit! You know its rubbish, you know there is no character development, and most importantly you really don't care and there is nothing better to do. This time around you see through the crap and pick on the films good points.
This has happened to me several times, i remember the first was with Judge Dredd.
However.......I was also channel hopping the night Van Helsing was on, there was a moment when i thought 'Why not?' then remembered the time that i already rewatched that rubbish and it was a horrible waste of money and more importantly, a waste of an oppotunity!!!
Posted on Friday November 9, 2007, 22:18
it is utter shite. awful accents, this least scary monsters in any, dare I refer to this film as one, horror, cliched corniness of the highest level and not one spectacular set pieces that can be the saving grace of a damp squib of a blockbuster
Posted on Friday November 9, 2007, 22:20
OMG. When I went to see this in the cinema with some friends I knew this was so bad it was good. You know you have that moment of realisation that it's just going to be a pile of shit... and yet... You can't help cracking up at Kate Beckinsale's terrible acting and worse running. I loved the waaaay over the top Dracula. Loved it.
By the end of the film my boyfriend and I were crying with laughter at the Lion King style appearance of KB's character in the sky. Too funny!
Posted on Friday November 9, 2007, 22:36
The Faculty. Completely hilarious.
And The Mummy Returns.
Posted on Friday November 9, 2007, 22:44
Bad film I always watch: Starship Troopers. Why, oh why? Go Figure!
It is the worst thing I've ever set eyes upon, yet I always end up watching it when it's on the telly. Maybe beacuse nothing better is on, but still no excuse.
Yet, I think that The Mummy Returns can still beat it in terms of being crap.
Posted on Friday November 9, 2007, 23:00
The Glimmer Man.
Posted on Friday November 9, 2007, 23:46
- I seem to keep coming back to 'The One', it's stupid and it's got the worst American accent ever by the Stath, but the 90 minutes fly by and it's quite good fun
- 'Jaws' 3 can be a good bad movie to stick on now and again.
The best one for me is:
- Superman IV: The Quest for Peace!!! Bloody hilarious! I laugh the whole way through, especially at the part where Supes and Nukes are fighting on the moon!
Posted on Friday November 9, 2007, 23:48
Desperado...its really quite bad but genius
Posted on Friday November 9, 2007, 23:50
- Also, check out Game of Death and Game of Death 2 to see awesome fight scenes hidden amongst crap films
Posted on Saturday November 10, 2007, 00:33
Yeah, found myself watching Van Helsing the other night on ITV2 also, but given that I've suffered the calamity that is Speed 2, I feel I can now endure most tosh.
Posted on Saturday November 10, 2007, 00:38
Van Helsing is pretty terrible. I wanted it to be good. After all, you can put Deep Rising and The Mummy in that 'so-bad-they're-good' category, but it just seemed like such a massive, grotesque waste. Hugh Jackman is wicked in everything he's in (with the aforementioned exception, and yes I do include Swordfish!), Kate Beckinsale is quite frankly, tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight! and the dude who played Faramir from The Two Towers (also in The Proposition and 300 - his name escapes me) is alright so it should have been all systems go. But lets be honest, Van Helsing is bollocks.
Films that are perahps worthy of this category? I'm a humble Customer Services agent by day so far be it for me to bludgeon people with my opinions but some suggestions:
Every Which Way You Can
National Lampoon's Loaded Weapon
Star Trek 4 (I bottled the Roman Numerals!) - The Voyage Home
Jurassic Park 3
Bring It On: All Or Nothing
Speed 2 can just fuck off, as can The Avengers (remember that?!?! Can you buy it anywhere?!?!)
Posted on Saturday November 10, 2007, 01:01
My Mrs actually fell asleep in the cinema watching Van Helsing!!! There are a lot of good bad films already mentioned above: The Mummy Returns, No Escape, Teen Agent but I see nobody has thought of A Knights Tale and the humdinger of all great bad movies: Tremors.
Posted on Saturday November 10, 2007, 01:22
The Mummy Returns is a good call, I loved that as a kid and I still enjoy it nowadays
The Transporter (and Transporter 2 too, but to lesser extent; it's a little too glossy and poe faced for my liking)
Once Upon a Time in Mexico = Fantastic film
Last Man Standing (the Bruce Willis/Chris Walken Gangster/Cowboys Yojimbo/Fistful of Dollars rip-off one, I love it)
Gimli The Dwarf
Posted on Saturday November 10, 2007, 02:50
It's nice to finally see some love for Van Helsing. It's by no means a great film, but it is good fun, and as such I can't really hold its flaws against it. I've seen it a few times so far and I'd happily go and watch it right now.
Posted on Saturday November 10, 2007, 04:12
Now that is just plain bad......
Josie and the Pussycats on the other hand, genius!!
Posted on Saturday November 10, 2007, 07:53
Van Helsing has always been one of my guilty pleasures
when I went to see it, my friend chickened out (she hates gore) so we saw Cat in the hat instead. So you can pretty much see why I like this film... I'll watch Van Helsing over Cat in the hat any day.
the great thing about van helsing is that you can watch it and not care!!! We dont give a damn about Beckinsale's brother but it makes fantastic viewing!!!
I also love the mummy films and resident evil films!
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Posted on Saturday November 10, 2007, 08:25
I can't believe that Hawk the Slayer hasn't been suggested yet?
The giant that's not that big?
the dwarf that's not that small?
The elf that looks and sounds for all the world like mr spock?
The journey through the forest of interminable evil durning which ABSOLUTELY NOTHING HAPPENS?
Its a classic!
Posted on Saturday November 10, 2007, 09:40
All I can say is The Pest - It was quite funny in places but even when it wasn't, I found myself laughing at just how bad it was, and how far removed John Leguizamo is from other roles he plays.
Posted on Saturday November 10, 2007, 10:02
Any of the Saw or Final Destination sequels. I've not actually seen Saw 4 yet - a trip to the cinema this afternoon may be in order as another excuse not to do my uni work just yet.
Posted on Saturday November 10, 2007, 10:58
No. It's rubbish.
joanna likes films
Posted on Saturday November 10, 2007, 10:58
The first time I saw Kingdom of Heaven with Orlando Bloom in, I hated it. Every hour, every minute and every second. The speaking was bad, the acting was terrible and the fight scenes were pointless. It was only until my sister started liking him that she bought the Dvd and we watched it a few weeks ago that I started to like it a little. Maybe because I wasn't fouscing what was going on or being lazy but it was a little better from last time. I love Van Helsing and I don't understand why would people hate that movie. It's funny, scary, sexy, romantic and full of action. The stars are brillant, apart from Kate who had a bad accent and stupid.
Posted on Saturday November 10, 2007, 11:08
I believe that Mortal Kombat is the greatest film of all time.
Posted on Saturday November 10, 2007, 11:47
I think Van Helsing is a very enjoyable film as long as you realise that what your getting is pure tripe. In that respect it's a brilliant cheese fest. I'd like to add my support for the following afore mentioned films
The mummy returns
The Scorpion king
Big trouble in little China.
Waterworld (in Parts)
Most If not all of segals back catalogue (Paticulary the Under Siege films)
P.s. Tremors is an absolute classic
Posted on Saturday November 10, 2007, 12:10
oh - i have many films i enjoy that are just judged as plain bad by many others
Mainly including most Van Damn films before the millennium (I still love Bloodsport and Cyborg).
Most Seagal films before a certain time as well. (Marked for Death still absolutely owns.)
Showdown in little tokyo is a masterpiece of film imo. "That time i heard you come" *giggle-snort* awful.
To be honest films like Van Helsing are films that you need to watch on auto-Pilot. with some doritoes.... fun no-brainers.
Id like to add Silent Hill and both Underworlds
Hated Underworld at the cinema, got it on dvd for some reason, and ended up buying into the world hardcore.
Posted on Saturday November 10, 2007, 12:25
From Dusk till Dawn 2
Posted on Saturday November 10, 2007, 12:25
i thinkstarship troopers and the mummy returns are myfavourate goodbad(bad good?) films
Posted on Saturday November 10, 2007, 12:41
VAN HELSING ROCKS MY SOCKS! (even if it is completely stupid)
You can't beat League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen when it comes to good bad films. It's so camp its good let alone when you add in the the awful SFXs.
Posted on Saturday November 10, 2007, 13:25
I understand what you mean sometimes you watch trashy films and you can't turn them off, it happened with me when I was watching Dennis. That awful movie with Walter Matthau and I couldn't turn away.
Posted on Saturday November 10, 2007, 14:10
From Dusk Till Dawn,
Starship Troopers (They sucked his brains out!!),
any car chase movie starring Burt Reynolds,
The Big Hit
Posted on Saturday November 10, 2007, 14:38
there are just films that are absolutely awful but you just watch them anyway for some lame action and entertainment. van helsing would be one of them, underworld definitely, national treasure (terrible script) resident evil, blade trinity- actually just any crap action/fantasy sci-fi film pretty much seals the deal.... i don't agree with judge dredd at all or starship troopers they are ace! the mummy is also bad but it makes you laugh, intentionally or not.
pirates 3, spidey 3 , shrek 3 were a complete waste of money but people are bound to watch them on a fri/sat night when they have nothing to do.
Posted on Saturday November 10, 2007, 14:42
Why has no-one mentioned Stormbreaker? That was one of the best cinema experiences I'd had in a long time. Bill Nighy hasn't been that hilarious since Underworld, there was that utterly bizarre cameo when Jimmy Carr appeared for no reason, and there were some brilliant set pieces. Alex fighting all those guys with a massive rope, Alex stuck in a tank with a giant squid with no brain... and of course Ewan McGregor dying before his credit has even come up, when Damian Lewis shoots him hanging upside down from a helicopter. The list is endless. I haven't even mentioned Mickey Rourke wanting to kill all the children because the Prime Minister bullied him at school. It really couldn't be any better.
From Dusk Till Dawn is not a bad movie. It's a silly movie, but not a bad movie, so I don't think it counts here.
Posted on Saturday November 10, 2007, 14:58
Oh yeah, Spiderman 3 has some unintentionally hilarious moments. I think my favourite is when Spiderman breaks Eddie Brock's camera and leaps down the manhole, and then Brock goes "What the HELL!?" Something about that just cracks me up.
Posted on Saturday November 10, 2007, 15:14
Got to agree on Starship Troopers, what is that bit about when Jake Busey picks up a Luminous Green plastic Violin and starts on improptu Hoe-down!
Roadhouse is also exceptionally bad/good "you're gonna be my regular Saturday night thang".
However I re-watched The Cannonball Run the other day and it was absolute dogshit, I used to love it (never go back).
Posted on Saturday November 10, 2007, 15:49
Shark Attack 3 - complete with the best line in cinema history
Posted on Saturday November 10, 2007, 16:35
watched under siege 2 alright lately-absolutely terrible,but hilarious..just like the first one,seagal the cook is 'missing' when the terrorists hijack the train, so that he can unleash the fury,basically..the end effects sequence with eric bogosion hanging onto the end of the helicopter whilst everything around them is blowing up is plain laughable! peter greene from pulp fiction and usual suspects is one of the back-up henchmen.according to wikipedia,the budget was $60million,can that be right?
Posted on Saturday November 10, 2007, 16:40
Hook!!! great score, great performances, looks gorgeous and its oh so cheesy- perfect christmas viewing! the whole baseball thing annoys the hell outta me and the american kids are awful, but its great!
wil wild west!!!! who can't love the sight of a great shakespearean actor walking around on metal spider legs with a silly goatee?!!
Posted on Saturday November 10, 2007, 17:08
Mortal Kombat is definately a good bad film. Being a rip-off of Enter the Dragon works in it's favour.
Also, I think there's one film that hasn't been mentioned yet...
Posted on Saturday November 10, 2007, 18:01
What about Ultraviolet? That has so many bad lines I'm still quoting them:
'He's not dead.'
'What do you mean?'
'I mean he's still alive.'
Computer: Number of weapons found.......many!
Daxus: I have seven hundred soldiers here with me. What do you really think you can do against that many men?
Violet: I can kill them.
Stupid plot? Check. Awful CGI? Check. Annoying kid? Check. Crap villan? Check. Terrible acting and clunky dialogue? Check and check. Mix these with Milla Jovovich in lots of fights and colour changing hair and you have one amazingly bad film you just gotta love!
(Is Milla Jovovich queen of these type of terrible films?)
Posted on Saturday November 10, 2007, 18:10
Glitter. (I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet but I'm thinking 'probably not'.)
Yes, it's a horrifically concieved pile of cheesey fluff but watch it end to end - it has everything.
Maria Carey pretending to be a teenager, 80s club music, Max Beesley on vibraphone and Terence Howard in pimp mode. Get in.
Posted on Saturday November 10, 2007, 18:19
Ach see I thought this thread was gonna be about watching a bad movie suddenyl turn good halfway through or something.
Like the remake of The Hitcher. The first half attempts to be a serious horror film and scores "mil poi" then comes a action sequence where Sean Bean starts taking cops to the strains of Nine Inch Nails Closer, and you realise it's seen it;'s shite and is running with it. It got fun after that.
Posted on Saturday November 10, 2007, 18:36
Watched it last night on Blu Ray with a few beers.Bad acting,Wildley inconsistent effects work,Ludicrous plot and that bloke from Prison Break as a plane add up to one hell of an entertaining movie.
You can always count on Rob Cohen to make a Bad/Good Movie
Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story
The Fast and the Furious
Cant wait for The Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor should be another Bad/Good masterpiece.
Posted on Saturday November 10, 2007, 18:55
Starship Troopers cannot count here. It's a SATIRE, people!
Posted on Saturday November 10, 2007, 19:40
I was watching this with my mum that night too. I remember going to see it at the cinema and thinking how bad it was then! The CGI had me cringing but it was a case of so-bad-its-funny. Richard Roxburgh was overacting to the point where i thought he was having a hernia and had me in hysterics of laughter throughout the whole film.
Posted on Saturday November 10, 2007, 19:55
"Awesome" you say. You really shouldn't be writing for a film magazine if you truly think that. It was indeed one of the worst films of that year. It is woeful. Get a grip.
Posted on Saturday November 10, 2007, 20:07
I agree with everyone else, Batman and Robin is probably the worst film I have ever watched and I have seen a few stinkers in my time.
Although is there anyone else out there who can still watch Masters of the Universe, because I can, its a guilty pleasure when ever I catch it on tv. Hey what can I say, I am an child of the 80's
John Mulder Simpson
Posted on Saturday November 10, 2007, 20:51
the house of the dead, based on the video game... FUNNY AS HELL!!! Believe me!!!! and if you watch it with yout friends, the fun is triple!!!!
Posted on Saturday November 10, 2007, 22:41
Posted on Saturday November 10, 2007, 22:41
Surely xxx 2 has to get a mention, it has a chubby ice cube flying through the air!
Posted on Saturday November 10, 2007, 23:02
I'm with livewire on this..... Tremors is a classic guilty pleasure.
Also from the early 90s a couple more films which are horribly trashy, but which you can't stop watching
Pump Up The Volume - Christian Slater waxing lyrical about cockrings backed up by a great soundtrack (Sonic Youth, Pixies, Cowboy Junkies....)
I Bought A Vampire Motorcycle - Neil Morrisey co-stars alongside a talking turd
Never mind Van Helsing with it's expensive CGI gloss!
Posted on Sunday November 11, 2007, 00:20
he he i LOVE bad films (which is ok as long as you know they're bad)! Van Helsing is borderline 'so-bad-its-good', i agree it needs a few years for the disappointment to wear off before it can be fully appreciated as genius! My fav in this catergory has to be Strictly Ballroom - rubbish acting, no chemistry between the leads, predictable plot: basically completely bonkers, but somehow brilliant! Snakes on a plane is another one; it was so awful it was aweome - contains one of the best quotes in film history plus Samuel L Jackson! What more could you ask for???
I think the key to a good, awful film is that it knows its awful. Van helsing has its tongue well in its cheek so you can just enjoy it for what it is. absolute rubbish!
Posted on Sunday November 11, 2007, 01:25
Damn I'm not in a discussion mood!
Well I agree its one of my love it cos its crap films, probably because I love the super cheesy adventures of it along with all the goof's.
Well a couple more I like cos they suck are :-
Constantine = absolutely Keanu Reeve's* worst acting, I love it!
The mummy = again I enjoy the adventure without the large family morales.
The mexican = I love how annoying Julia Roberts character is, coupled with the gay hitman and brad+julia's poor 'couple' acting.
From dusk till dawn = Not as bad as the above but still, not good, but I LOOVE it.
Posted on Sunday November 11, 2007, 02:17
I must echo alkayuk's comment and suggest Shark Attack 3, starring John Barrowman, as 'Best Bad Film Ever'.
Also, possibly the most time I've ever laughed in a cinema was when I saw Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle. I don't know whether I was laughing so much to stop myself crying over the fact I'd paid to see it, but nevertheless, I was in absolute hysterics. What a terrible, yet wonderful, film. I will never watch it again in case it destroys the memory.
Posted on Sunday November 11, 2007, 04:51
My choice for a movie everyone else hates but i LOVE is Love Actually actually. I don't really understand why everyone hates it. It's hilariously funny and well acted and manages to bring character development to all the storylines despite the fact that there are tons of them. But everyone else thinks it sucks so therefore that is my bad good movie.
Posted on Sunday November 11, 2007, 09:51
ROBIN HOOD: PRINCE OF THIEVES.
Posted on Sunday November 11, 2007, 10:40
Bad films do not become good - they simply become enjoyable for being so dreadful. When a bad film is made it is automatically torn to pieces - lack of emotion, story was weak, do not believe in the characters, poor production costs etc - but when all these things are put together in an attempt to make a film better than anyone could possibly wish for then we have something special - JAWS: The Revenge.
The saga had been flailing like a wet fish struggling for it's last breath after 3D & they thought... ok lets take it back to Amity (just for 10 minutes) then move somewhere exotic. Bring in a name like Michael Caine & cross out fingers. The result, a film so bad it's enjoyable to see them mess it up so badly. Poor acting, a context of characters which makes us cheer on the shark every time someone is attacked & the "special effects" which in many frames actually show the mechanics of the shark itself (left in the film cut). Pure and utter toss for a film but so enjoyable to see how it can go so bad, so well. Affraid to go back into the water, er no... afraid to watch another MArio Van Peebles film Oh Yes!
Watch Kaws: The Revenge & enjoy picking out the best of the worst.
Posted on Sunday November 11, 2007, 11:15
Was about to be the first to mention Jaws: The Revenge but you beat me to it! I find it extremely entertaining despite being SO awful - Caine lifts the mood in any film! It's HILARIOUS when he land his plane in the sea to rescue Mrs Brody and the shark appears and he exclaims: "oh shit!" - then somehow swims to her boat unharmed and completely dry!!!
Regarding some of the above comments, Tremors certainly is a classic - and Bacon's co-star Fred Ward in the title role of Remo: Unarmed and Dangerous, also mentioned above - fantastic. You MUST see this film if you haven't!
Other guilty pleasures of mine include...
Rocky IV, Con Air, Cliffhanger, Twins, and another vote for Road House!
and, dare I say my fave film of all time albeit for childhood reasons, but I must admit I still love it now...Teen Wolf
Posted on Sunday November 11, 2007, 12:42
No one has yet mentioned The Keep
I can' help but love this film. The auhor of the book hated it so much that he wrote a short story about an author taking revenge via voodoo on a film director
Michael Mann has I believe blocked a DVD release
But the VHS is out there & sky show it now and again
You HAVE to see this film 100% in the so bad it is good category
Posted on Sunday November 11, 2007, 13:11
Any movie with Leslie Nielsen in it is my favourite thing to watch when I'm sick and my head isn't working too clearly.
Posted on Sunday November 11, 2007, 13:31
Cliffhanger is one of the best bad films & contains some of the finest quotes in movie history:
"Kill a few people, they call you a murderer. Kill a million and you're a conqueror."
"You want to kill me, don't you, Tucker? Well, get a number and get in line."
"...in a minute I'll be dead, and you, will always be an asshole."
Travers: "Tucker and Walker! We're missing 3 bags. "
Gabe Walker: "What's in them? "
Travers: "None of your f*!#ing business!"
Eric Qualen: "Suits, socks, 100 million dollars - the usual stuff."
Posted on Sunday November 11, 2007, 14:12
Has anyone seen a post-apocalyptic version of Beowulf that came out a few years ago? Beowulf had leather trousers, the world's most inexplicable accent and a pouty corset-wearing love interest called Kyra (yeah, good Saxon name there). Grendel's mother was a pneumatic blonde in a string vest who grabbed Beowulf's crotch and then turned into a mechanical spider. There was a gratuitous American 'comic' sidekick, and all the fights were accompanied by techno music. Best line: "I may not be evil... but tonight I'm full of magic" (cue shag). It was awesome. Beat that Zemeckis!
Posted on Sunday November 11, 2007, 15:24
The Transporter! Jason Statham is a king among men.
Posted on Sunday November 11, 2007, 15:50
Got to have some love for Seagal and Van Damme...
Seagal's best 'bad/good' movie - Hard to Kill. Hard to pick a favourite bit in it, but maybe the Sax solo during Seagal and Kelly Le Brock's uber-cheesy lurrrve scene.
and Van Damme's "best" - Bloodsport, definately. Uniformly so-bad-they're-awesome acting from all involved (excluding perhaps the barely-used future Best Actor Oscar winner, Forest Whittaker!)
Saying that, the bar dance scene from Kickboxer is perhaps the greatest bad/good scene in entire movie history. JCVD is a God amongst men.
Posted on Sunday November 11, 2007, 16:47
INDEPENDENCE DAY!!!! What a bloody awful film it is, so many bits that alone make you cringe:
- the silly bitch on the roof going "God, I hope they bring back Elvis!"
- the camp boss of Jeff Goldblum
- the dog escaping the ball of flame in the tunnel
- Brent Spiner's geeky scientist
- The RAF scene: "The Americans have come up with a plan!" "About bloody time too!!!"
- The President's pre-battle speech "From now on 4th July will no longer be just an American Holiday...blah blah blah"
- Randy Quaid's character..."Hello boys, I'm back!"
And yet, despite these steaming dog-turds, I can't help but watch the film every time it's on. I can only put it down to Jeff Goldblum and Will Smith together making the very best of a bad job!
Posted on Sunday November 11, 2007, 16:57
Another vote for The Core, for so many reasons including the pigeons causing terror in London.
Vertical Limit, only the americans could think that rescuing people from K2 isn't enough and have to add highly unstable explosives.
Posted on Sunday November 11, 2007, 17:37
Pirates of the Caribbean 2 & 3. They're completly f*cked-up story wise: everybody gets something to say and needless character development (EVERY-friggin'-BODY), characters made choices that were completely illogical and they kept switching places like it was a bloody three-cups-and-a-ball-game. But the films were fun to watch despite those really annoying factors.
Posted on Sunday November 11, 2007, 17:52
plan 9(best shite film ever by miles)
Posted on Sunday November 11, 2007, 19:01
How can Big Trouble in Little China be considered a 'so bad it's good guilty pleasure' movie - It IS good and that's simply because it is. The over-the-top cheesiness is more than intentional, unlike a lot of the other movies mentioned here.
Posted on Sunday November 11, 2007, 20:19
The best example of this is easy. A great title called Ninja Terminator. It is quite possibly one of the greatest films of all time.
It takes itself VERY seriously. The camera guy misses people out of the shots, the main ninja wears eyeliner and has a Garfield phone, the dialogue is superbly hilariously awful, the bad guy wears a stupid blonde wig for no reason and sends death threats with £-shop style toy robots that carry cassettes.
And the first shot to establish Japan - is a close up of a roof. Imaginative.
I think everybody reading this should buy it. Only £1 on eBay.
Posted on Sunday November 11, 2007, 20:38
The Swarm, Dead Heat, Jaws: The Revenge to name a few but blimmin eck the list is endless. I think they should remake The Swarm now but treat it very very seriously. Serious.
Posted on Sunday November 11, 2007, 21:53
Reviewers! *Rolls eyes*
What were you doing, smoking the carpet before you wrote this? Seriously, Van Helsing? VAN HELSING! I can't believe you actually wrote five paragrahs over this! I can't believe your editor let you write five paragraphs over this!
As for bad movies that work because they are so bad.... It has to go to:
'Buckaroo Banzai across the 8th Dimension'
Check out the stellar cast too: Peter Weller, Christopher Lloyd, Jeff Goldblum, Ellen Barkin, John Lithgow, Clancy Brown.
Posted on Sunday November 11, 2007, 22:43
Hollywood Homicide... what a film!
Posted on Sunday November 11, 2007, 23:06
House of the dead
Manos, the hand of Fate (cant believe no-ones mentioned this yet)
Freddy got fingered (so wrong)
Showgirls (speaks for itself really)
Posted on Sunday November 11, 2007, 23:35
Van Helsing is just plain rubbish, not shit enough to be good.
Batman and Robin is brilliantly camp and I also like Charlies Angels. Flashy, stupid and very entertaining...
Posted on Monday November 12, 2007, 01:43
When I was 8, I saw The Swarm and Return To The Poseidon Adventure as a double feature at the old Fairworld cinema in Sunderland. Michael Caine was in both.
Years later, I saw him being interviewed by Parky and he said that the reason he made them was that even he had to pay the mortgage.
Can't understand why he did 'Jaws:The Revenge' though. I'm sure things picked up for him by then.
Watch these films in the context of being 8 and they are amazing.
Posted on Monday November 12, 2007, 01:47
oops..sorry thats Beyond... not Return to...
It was a long time ago.
Posted on Monday November 12, 2007, 05:14
I love good bad movies. Some movies are unforgivably bad and are obviously quite rubbish. But it's the movies that make you wonder, is it meant to be this bad? Did they make it this bad on purpose? Did the actors mean to use so much ham??
My top 3 bad movies are, in no particular order:
Streetfigher The Movie (Van Damme)
Kinda makes me wanna write a blog about it meself! :)
the ageless stranger
Posted on Monday November 12, 2007, 10:28
Anyone remember Zardoz? Sean Connery runnung around in a red nappy and a ponytail, and featuring such classic lines as "The gun is good, the penis is evil."
It's a fine line between hilarious and shite.
Posted on Monday November 12, 2007, 10:52
Pep Streebeck (post 73) - surely in the best Cliffhanger quotes you must almost include, when Stallone's Gabe is burning the cash to keep warm... "Costs a fortune to heat this place!"
the ageless stranger
Posted on Monday November 12, 2007, 11:01
Hey, if we're talking about Cliffhanger, let's not leave out the sheer brilliance of John Lithgow holding his own in a fistfight against Stallone. Yeah, that'll happen.
Also, how many times in that film does Michael Rooker run towards something in slow motion shouting "NOOOOOOO!!!" I think it's at least three. Classic stuff....
Posted on Monday November 12, 2007, 11:11
Space Camp's still rocking it for me
Posted on Monday November 12, 2007, 11:25
Rewatched Hollow Man (my candidate) over the weekend. If nothing else, it's got an invisible gorilla and a bad-ass line from Kevin Bacon. "It's amazing what you can do when you don't have to look at yourself in the mirror any more". Cheesy!
Posted on Monday November 12, 2007, 11:28
I added Van Helsing to the so bad it's good list as soon as it came out.
The worst / best part? When Kate looks to the sky (a la JD from Scrubs) and declarres something along the lines of
"I've never seen the sea"
which ultimately leads to the next best bit, the aforementioned ending with Kate's face in the clouds.
Posted on Monday November 12, 2007, 11:52
Love Hudson Hawk. Can't fathom why it's regarded as a turkey.
Posted on Monday November 12, 2007, 11:53
Showdown in Little Tokyo
Posted on Monday November 12, 2007, 12:15
In Defence of Van Helsing (part 1).
I actually watched Van Helsing recently; I was off work sick, the day after Halloween, and feeling sorry for myself, when I decided to stick on the Van Helsing dvd which I'd bought in the sales a few years back. Like Olly, I too was surprised by quite how much I enjoyed it, through a senses-dulled haze of lemsip and vitamin supplements.
As a dream-team style amalgamation of the old Universal monster movies, it's endearingly faithful to their tone. Accusations that the movie is too camp and stylised are understandable although slightly unfounded. If memory serves me correctly, didn't Victor Frankenstein keep some miniaturised people in a jam jar in James Whales' brilliant 'Bride of Frankenstein'? That kind of crack-pot fantasy is 10 times more outlandish than the developments found in 'Van Helsing'. However, the pastiche to James Whales' Windmill climax is a terrific opener for Van Helsing, and plants the rest of the movie within the super-theatrical reality of the Universal movies.
The strengths of Stephen Sommer's Van Helsing are undoubtably the knock-out special effects, which 3.5 years later are still fantastic (they used the same CGI engine developed for Lord of the Rings, apparently), and the hugely creative sets and character designs, which very often hold interest while the dialogue and plot developments fail to do so.
Posted on Monday November 12, 2007, 12:16
In Defence of Van Helsing (part 2).
The action set-pieces, although undeniably repetitive at points, are all engaging enough, with the best ones matching most recent action blockbusters in terms of thrills and spills (the Jekyll/Hyde squirmish on Notre-Dame, and the trans-Transylvanian horse-and-carriage chase under pursuit of the Wolfman in particular).
The weaknesses of the movie are mostly within the contrivances of the plot. Sommers is not an especially sophisticated screenwriter, and his efforts to include all these horror icons within the arc of a single plot is not very convincing. The comedy side-kick characters were also miss-cast, with the secret-agent monk and the dastardly Igor being not nearly as funny as they needed to be. Jack Black or Robin Williams could have had a field day with these roles.
At the end of the day, I'd still rate a lot of other 'bad movies' more highly, including Judge Dredd, Deep Rising, The Phantom and the Fantastic 4. But I'll still stand up and defend Van Helsing as being not only tolerable and watchable, but from time to time even fleetingly enjoyable. Nice one Olly.
Posted on Monday November 12, 2007, 12:24
karate kid part 3 !!!
Posted on Monday November 12, 2007, 12:43
Can't believe no mentions for Barb Wire yet!! Pammy in a costume that barely contains her 'assets', wooden acting throughout, and a plot ripped off from Casablanca!!
Also got to love Arnie in Batman & Robin, trying to crowbar in as many 'ice' puns as possible:
"You're not sending me to the cooler!"
"Ice to see you!"
"Allow me to break the ice"
etc, etc, repeat ad nauseum
Posted on Monday November 12, 2007, 13:09
Re: Arnie's dialogue in 'Batman and Robin'...there's a video on youtube somewhere that consists entirely of clips of all the times Arnie says something like "ice"..."cool"..."chill" etc.
It's bizarre and hilarious, and basically sums up the movie in 20 seconds!
I saw Batman and Robin at the cinema when I was about 12, and geniunely liked it. Oh dear :/
Saw it again about a year ago, and me and my friend basically pissed ourselves laughing at how they managed to get a film so WRONG! I'm all for putting it in the so-bad-it's-good catagory. It's more camp than a row of tents.
Final point, does anyone else have a strange attraction to Uma Thurman's Poison Ivy? I can't explain why, but I fancy the pants off her as Poison Ivy, but otherwise don't really rate her that much. Perhaps I need help? :(
damn im good!
Posted on Monday November 12, 2007, 13:14
God, the list goes on and on for me.
and overlooked 80's calssic "The Stuff". Pure genius.
Alos a huge fan of the Scanner Cops series. Wicked movies. Toattlay shite, but comedy genius.
Posted on Monday November 12, 2007, 13:20
Hang On. There's "so bad it's good" and then there's "so bad it's unwatchable". I too watched Van Helsing the other night and it made me want to swallow my own face. Wretched, gastly stuff. Deep Rising on the other hand, is pure, unadulterated post-kebab fun. The formula for identifying which films fall into which category is complex, but basically Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle is terrible and Commando is completely sensational.
Posted on Monday November 12, 2007, 13:23
A night to dismember, my God it's dreadful. Made by Doris Wishman in about 1979, it's your usual nutter/slasher flick. What makes this great is that the film lab lost much of the footage and Ms Wishman basically chucked together what she had, threw in some evevator music and dodgy narration to try (Unsuccessfully) to give it sense. Now there have been quite a few films that have had similar unfortunate backgrounds, but NONE that have made me gut laugh uncontrolably for the entire movie. A comedy can't do that, but a night to dismember pulls it off nicely. I mean what other film uses someone making a raspberry noise as a sound effect for an old lady having their head run over by a car wheel! What other film uses funky jazz as the score for a tense creepy scene! The editing is awful, the acting even worse, but goddam it, it's so lovable. Plan 9 is friggin Citizen Kane compared to this, any time I show this film to my friends, they usually bust a gut cracking up. The film is so messed up, we're even having debates whether the film is a brilliant piece of surrealist abstract cinema.
I only hope that the makers of Scary Movie see this film, decide that they can never be as fun or funny at this classic and retire forever.
Posted on Monday November 12, 2007, 13:29
ONE WORD "TOYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Posted on Monday November 12, 2007, 13:38
There are great bad movies - but they surely are only made so when you watch them with a group of friends a bottle of wine, and a bowl of popcorn to throw at the screen as you mock. Troy is my personal favourite for this. It's probably related to the fact that I am an ancient historian, but I do find it very entertaining when watched in the above fashion.
I've not seen Van Helsing since the cinema. I might have to try it again now.
Posted on Monday November 12, 2007, 13:43
ilovekaren...I'm sure you're referring to Robin -even the face on the front of the video is scary on this one' Williams' Toys, but that reminds me of another - Toy Soldiers, the one with Sean Astin & Wil Wheaton as school kids who save the day from terrorists who hold them hostage in a boarding school! Denholm Elliot's final film I think. Not very good to be fair but I love it!
Posted on Monday November 12, 2007, 13:43
Stupid but worth seeing for the motel room sequence alone
- Robocop II
People think it's crap, I think it's quite good fun especially when Robo turns soft ("Bad language makes for bad feelings etc.")
Posted on Monday November 12, 2007, 13:47
How has no-one mentioned Deep Blue Sea? It is such a great bad movie. The heroine is so unlikeable that after the first test screenings they re-edited and had her eaten alive by sharks!
I do also have a soft spot for Shark Attack 3: The Megalodon too.
People being attached by cgi-enhanced bath toys is always funny.
Posted on Monday November 12, 2007, 13:56
Torque. Ultra-cheesy all the way - far more fun than any fast and the furious, and a million times dumber. Riding bikes on and off a train, hot girls jousting with motorbikes, a CGI final chase at about 500mph... awesome.
Ultraviolet's motorbike vs helicopter would probably win the computer-game-on-fast-forward award though...
Posted on Monday November 12, 2007, 14:15
For So-Bad-It's-Good you can't beat Red Dawn. The USSR and Cuba join forces to invade America, only to fall foul of Patrick Swayze, Charlie Sheen and Jennifer "No One Puts Baby in the Corner (because she has grenades!)" Grey who run to the hills with some of their high school chums to lead the resistance. Fantastic.
Posted on Monday November 12, 2007, 14:31
I've always had a soft spot for Speed 2. It's awful, yeah, but hilarious with it. Especially "I think I broke my arm... I think I broke my other arm!"
Posted on Monday November 12, 2007, 14:45
I haven't gone through all of the posts but for sheer, 'They really can't have paid people to make this can they.................The Island of Dr Moreau?!!!'
Posted on Monday November 12, 2007, 15:07
Whoa whoa whoa...don't confuse cheesy fun for indefensible shite!
While reading the posts on this blog, I felt compelled to respond when reading names like "Roadhouse" and "Tremors" freely bandied about as being an example of these so shit-they're good movies.
People - nay, movie-lovers - of Planet Empire: please, please stop confusing movies that may not be oscar-winning or indeed ground-breaking with Olly's initial subject of films that are SO BAD that you can enjoy them for their BADNESS.
I already mentioned two, but films like "Starship Troopers" (satire to some, glorious gorefest to others, fucking great fun to all!), "Commando" (I will fight anyone who says this film is "bad" in any way), Remo: Unarmed and Dangerous, Jurassic Park 3, Deep "Now what!?" Rising...not one of these is a bona fide cinematic masterpiece (maybe Commando), but nor are they "so bad they're good". They're all great, FUN movies, mostly made with a knowing wink and a smile to the audience, that these should not be taken overly seriously.
But leave them alone - they belong in the blog for "those gems that are just plain fun to watch," rather than the shittiness that stinks up Van Helsing and Batman & Robin.
Seriously though - someone thought Roadhouse was bad? WTF dude??
Posted on Monday November 12, 2007, 15:21
I'm really not sure about Batman & Robin, a shiney blue arnie is never going to entertain me and also George Clooney's first line being "Hi Freeze, I'm Batman" really grinds my gears every time, this isn't how superheros talk dang nabit!
I always turn to the Cable Guy or Police Academy 4 for a bit of guilty pleasure gratification, erm or maybe The Island?
The Summoned Muse
Posted on Monday November 12, 2007, 15:26
Personally, I rather liked Van Helsing. It looked good (admittedly the werewolf transformation was a little ropey), pays tribute to the original Universal pics with just the right tone, and Kate Beckinsale's accidental death really surprised me.
It was, it seems to me, meant to be a fun romp with its tongue in its cheek, and proved to be exactly that.
As for "so bad it's good", I honestly struggle to think of more than a handful of films: Jaws 4 and practically anything featuring Chris Tucker ("the world's highest paid actor" according to Empire - proof, if it were needed, that the entire world has gone to hell).
If something's particularly bad, I stop watching and tend to forget it. And, strangely, I notice that I really enjoyed practically all the films people have already mentioned as bad (Tremors: terrific post-pub fun; Starship Troopers: what's not to love?).
Perhaps I need treatment...
Posted on Monday November 12, 2007, 15:33
Kull the Conquerer!! Nuff said!!
Posted on Monday November 12, 2007, 15:43
That bit in Jaws: The Revenge where the shark EXPLODES when prodded by a boat... that's my all-time worst moment.
Also, I HATE the bit in Jurassic Park 3 when the brachiosaur leans towards the boat and smiles!
Posted on Monday November 12, 2007, 15:44
Well I understand people getting on their high horse and demanding quality at all levels but that is against human nature itself. Sometimes really rubbish things can be funny or touching and if you deny that how much of a well-rounded filmgoer can you be? The reason I read Empire reviews and not the Times is that the Times cannot watch a film for fun or revel in its innate crapness. I will love Red Sonja til the day I die but that doesn't mean I can't appreciate A Bande Apart does it?
Posted on Monday November 12, 2007, 15:49
I think some people here are missing the point that dusk til dawn, starship troopers are genre/satires.
pump up the volume is amazing. I used to think that I was christian slaters character when I was at school. I how realise I was just a hopeless dork with bad hair.
Has no one mentioned TITANIC yet?!?
The Summoned Muse
Posted on Monday November 12, 2007, 16:25
I'll mention Titanic: it's a huge spectacular of the type only mainstream Hollywood cinema can produce.
OK, it's best not to look to closely at the facts, and the dialogue is a little, erm, inadequate, but God, look at the visuals and feel the second and third act momentum.
If you want a cinema experience, this is cinema to the max. If you want a history lesson, watch A Night To Remember.
Posted on Monday November 12, 2007, 16:43
Ok here goes, films that are pants but I can't help watching
Belly of the Beast
Under Siege 2: Dark Territory
Tango & Cash
Hercules in New York
Gremlins 2: The New Batch
Power Rangers The Movie
All Dogs Go To Heaven
Batman Forever/Batman & Robin
Speed 2: Cruise Control
Last Action Hero
Over The Top
Game Of Death
Best Of The Best (1&2)
KARATE KID PART III
Air Force One
plus a bunch of others i'll remember after i've posted this (it's always the way!)
Posted on Monday November 12, 2007, 16:53
now people.. all very good, yadda yadda. but... there can only be one true god among the "so bad it's awesome" films... and it is Hercules In New York. remember that? an arnie film so old, he was credited as Arnold Strong because no one knew who he was and his name was too long. it has THE worst acting by any being, human or otherwise, ever and is all the better for it. Hell, I'll bet Arnie'd admit it's just unintetionally hilarious.
Posted on Monday November 12, 2007, 17:10
Kickboxer must be up there! If only for a pissed up Van Damme doing dance karate!
Zien! Why those guys try to hurrrt me?
And don't get me started on Taylor!!!!
Posted on Monday November 12, 2007, 17:19
I've got quite a large collection of good bad films. I'm ashamed to say I actually own The Avengers on dvd. However if you view it as a comedy it almost becomes watchable. Especially for Sean Connery (and not just in a bear suit, in almost every cringeworthy moment. Particularly when he seems to orgasm while listing cloud types to a suitibly disgusted Uma Thurman). Jesus...I really have watched this film too many times..
Posted on Monday November 12, 2007, 18:28
now in my eyes the film that most supports this theory is Congo. there are monkeys, killer monkeys, a talking monkey, lazers, volcanoes, jungle, dodgy accents and bruice campbell! its a mixture of ace ventura:when nature calls and blood diamond. its one of those films that's shown on bbc1 at 1 in the morning with a lonely one star next to its name but i have to watch it even though i own the dvd. pure brilliant shite!
Posted on Monday November 12, 2007, 18:49
Can never agree with Van Helsing being so crap it's brilliant! For a film with such a big budget and huge stars it doesn't deserve it. It should be good but isn't. For me, someone previously mentioned Howard the Duck - now that is so bad it's good! A few people have also mentioned Van Damme. I think No Retreat, No Surrender gets it. Really awful but funny because of it.
Posted on Monday November 12, 2007, 18:54
No Retreat, No Surrender is a good example of unforigvable filth being so shite it's actually not half bad when you think about it. Bruce Lee comes back as a ghost and trains some little fucker to become hard enough to batter Jean Claud V... actually, fuck that, it's just total wank.
Posted on Monday November 12, 2007, 19:12
Posted on Monday November 12, 2007, 19:45
Armageddon was a shit sandwich that for some reason I like nibbling on. Don't know why, but I've watched it about 10 times yet I think it's absolutely monstrocious. The way it's shot like a fucking Barclycard avert, the concept that a bunch of fat fuck ups could fly into space with a nuke, Mr Pink firing that gun, just oilsome slivery tripe from start to finish... but it's good!
Posted on Monday November 12, 2007, 19:53
MAC AND ME!
Posted on Monday November 12, 2007, 22:13
I'm shocked to see some Michael Bay movies on this list.
They're not so bad they're good. They're just BAD.
I include Transformers in that...it was bollocks.
Posted on Monday November 12, 2007, 22:50
...David Wenham (the side-kick monk) saved Van Helsing for me...thank goodness he was cast!...
Posted on Tuesday November 13, 2007, 00:19
Dunno if how many of ya's have seen this, but its truely the best of the bad movies.
The Marine.......its got WWE wrestler John Cena, and to give you a flavour of how brilliantly bad....jeep drives through wooden cabin and glass wall in cabin - cabin explodes! Pure stoopidity and genius at the same time.
Posted on Tuesday November 13, 2007, 11:36
Well I cant agrre that Van Helsing nor Batman and Robin are so bad they are good, however, i do agree with the sentiment that when a film rejoices in its sheer proposterousness (is that a word?) its fuckin awesome! In line with this I would like to offer up the following films;
Commando-Ludacrously OTT action and deaths, great one liners, a bad guy that looks like freddy mercury after a weekend steroid binging and arnie at his best. May I reccomend watching this while getting drunk for maximum pleasure.
Ghost Rider-Cage hams it up delightfully, and the character itself is bad ass! lets face it, comic book films are all ridiculous so it was nice to see a film indulging in its own stupidity, unlike other comic book films that are so po-faced at times they become almost laughably bad (which, yes comic book geeks, sorry to offend you, does include Batman Begins-see Liam Neeson and christian bale's vocal transformation when he is in the bat suit for evidence).
Marked For Death- simply for sheer ammount of limbs being bent the wrong with, this film has to be good! and for evil doer, screwface's philosophies, "everyone want heaven, but nobody want dead!" Makes Oscar Wilde look dimwitted!
Deep Blue Sea-the plot is reeks of putrid b-movie, direct to video shite, but the death sequences are suitably grizzly and the comedic relief provided by a showstealing LL Cool J makes the film such bad fun I almost feel guilty!
I would also like to give honourable mention to such knowingly bad films that I love such as Snakes On A Plane, Batman Forever, Rocky 3 and Rocky 4.
Now as a graduate film student may I suggest an addition to the curriculum-instead of studying why dull examples of soviet cinema can be considered 'good films' what we should realy be studying is how and why the films mentioned above, that we all know are not good in any traditional sense, are so damn bloody entertainig!
Posted on Tuesday November 13, 2007, 11:50
Re Leda's comment:
I agree - He-man rocks!
But is it only because I loved that film as a kid? If I watched it for the first time today I would probably find it impossible to sit through.
Not only He-Man, but Moonwalker as well!
Does anyone else think that nostalgia gets in the way of judging how good a film actually is?
Posted on Tuesday November 13, 2007, 12:35
Some of my favourite bad films are:
Commando - more Arnieisms per minute than all his other movies and the jewell in the crown is that fat Aussie guy - who'd have thought they could find a worse actor than Arnie? Fucking hilarious!
Flash Gordon - Cheesy dialogue, ropey effects and as camp as a boy scout's convention but I never miss it on tv.
The Fifth Element - Milla Jovovich talking gibberish and Bruce Willis looking like a cat's pissed in his hair. Top late night fodder.
Hard Target - Jan Claude Bread Vanne with a mullet, nuff said.
Can't think of any more just yet. It's a fine line between being so bad it's good and being just plain shite and few films make the cross-over.
Posted on Tuesday November 13, 2007, 12:59
Hey, how come people are dissing Tremors. It's a superbly made little horror that cleverly rises above it's B-movie premise with good effects, witty dialogue and cool character actors.
Oh, and Commando is nuts, I know, but it's an action classic. Full stop.
Kudos to Andyginner for making the same argument, and for listing other great films whcih are in no way bad.
I agree with Congo, League of Gentlemen, Mummy 2, and many more listed here, and even started liking some parts of Van Helsing when I bought the 2-disc DVD for £3 in Asda. Bargain, great background docs, and so, so hilariously bad. I also have a soft spot for Under Siege 2.
But folks, come on - Silent Hill is just plain bad.
The travesty that is The Avengers does at least have the hilarious scene where the legendary Sir Sean Connery humiliates himself by wearing a teddy bear costume!! How brilliant is that? The rest of the film is one giant incoherent, ugly mess, though.
But my all-time favourite 'so bad it's good' film is Sheena, with the gorgeous Tanya Roberts in a fur bikini, talking telepathically to the animals (she puts her fist to her forehead and pouts in mock concentration when she does this!), the horses painted to look like zebras (except the producers forgot that zebras don't have big swishing tails), the pelicans which bring down a plane, Ted Wass as the hero..... It is just absolutely awful, and compelling viewing to boot!
Posted on Tuesday November 13, 2007, 13:33
Kev@CTU...absolutely! Nostalgia definitely gets in the way of judging the quality of a film - OK so there's not much argument against the likes of Teen Wolf but I love it for the characters, the soundtrack and the time in my life when I watched it every day! Heck I recently spent my stag weekend dressed up as Michael J Fox's greatest character (Marty McWho...?) - and did some mini-bus surfing along the way!!
Never Ending Story is another one of my faves and dare I say it even Honey, I Shrunk The Kids - they entertain me, remind me of fun times and I watch them back now with a cheeky smile - not feeling embarrassed knowing I used to be fascinated by them!
I actually think the Goonies has loadsa flaws but I bet it's mostly people in their mid/late 20s who love it coz they did 15/20 years ago! Wonder if they are gonna do a sequel (will it really work as an animation?)
And ChrisSimonSmith - Tremors certainly is a classic, it knows exactly what it's doing and delivers and does NOT belong in this category! Walter Chang's death still bothers me..!
Posted on Tuesday November 13, 2007, 14:33
Does anyone remember an 80's horror called The Gate - that was so bad it was good. Commando isn't so bad it's good, it is an action classic, for a film that is crap but I can't help but watch it, is the Stallone vehicle - Over The Top. It's about arm wrestling and his son - that's about it!!
Posted on Tuesday November 13, 2007, 15:34
Pure shitfest but Torque, Cobra, Double Team and Tango & Cash.
Films sooooooooo bad they are quite possibly borderline genius.
Posted on Tuesday November 13, 2007, 15:53
Spaceballs... no, no fucking way...
Posted on Tuesday November 13, 2007, 17:07
I think he may be pushing it with Batman and Robin but Van Helsing is a great bad movie. Personally, anything which has ridiculous action and silly jokes deserves to go on the pile, one of my favourite crap films is "Welcome to the Jungle", also the "Resident Evil" film is bloody hilarious at times.
Posted on Wednesday November 14, 2007, 09:07
You're allowed to like Spaceballs...go on, admit it! I think it has some great moments, and to be fair the effects are better than the prequels..!
Posted on Wednesday November 14, 2007, 09:51
No goddamn way - I got Spaceballs 2nd hand the other day for £3. Godforsaken doesn't even remotely do it justice. Had to turn it off halfway through. That's not a movie so bad it's good. That's a pint of Stella thrown down the grid.
Posted on Wednesday November 14, 2007, 10:21
Wow! Has there ever been so much to chose from. Although Van Helsing is just plain wrong, I´ve certainly got to agree with more recent guilty pleasure fare like Starship Troopers, The League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen & Independence Day even though they are quite obvious choices and sort of embrace their own badness.
I also have a soft spot for Judge Dredd, Twister, Spawn, Godzilla (Mathew Broderick remake) and Sky Captain too!
Obviously Plan 9 From Outer Space is a true BAD=GOOD classic.
From my old VHS collection, Road House is wonderfully enjoyably bad, as are my other late-night-feeling-in-a-lazy-mood films Bedazzled (Cook & Moore version), Zardoz, Morons From Outer Space, He-Man, Beast Master, Flash, Dune, Howard The Duck (which I lent out to a work colleage and never got back!!!???) and Purple Rain.
Power Rangers, Mortal Kombat, Last Action Hero and (maybe) Hudson Hawk are pure 90´s shit heaven. While not strictly a film, "V" has surely got to be one of the best/worst/best TV movie experiences ever.
Oh dear, I´m suddenly feeling a bit weak. I think my full list is actually probably endless. Er, where is that copy of Battleship Potemkin . . . . !
Posted on Wednesday November 14, 2007, 10:24
COBRA! Thank you mdeehan10 I forgot how much I love that film, the first 20 minutes are pure gold and it has maybe my favourite tagline ever 'crime is a disease, meet the cure'
He's revived Rocky and Rambo, I'm gonna lay it down and say we need a sequel to Cobra!
There must be about 80-odd fatalities at the end as well for reasons I can't really remember apart from Brigette Nielsen.
Posted on Wednesday November 14, 2007, 11:20
(Dan...) - you brought it up! I'm afraid I have a soft spot for Rick Moranis 80s films, this included - and The Planet of the Apes bit gets me every time. Enjoy ya stella - tastes better if you have it in a 'Spaceballs the Pint Glass' glass....
Posted on Wednesday November 14, 2007, 21:11
No way man, Van Helsing is just poo. And as I write this, I have to endure my husband sitting at the other end of the sofa and saying how great it is and no doubt drooling over Kate Beckinsale and her terrible acting. Although I am sure her acting ability is the last thing on his mind. I would at this point like to add that he also loves Underworld. What can I say?
Still, I think listing your favourite bad-good films is as difficult and endless as listing your all time greats. I would like to add Resident Evil for being great and so over the top. It is true the Milla Jovovich does seem to be drawn to this category of movie - the bad-good kind. I also like Independence Day - although it does push my buttons. So annoying! However, the list goes on...
Plus, I am so pleased that someone before me has mentioned about the great Starship Troopers and that it is satire! That film is not bad-good, just misunderstood and underrated.
Lord Byron Pitt
Posted on Thursday November 15, 2007, 23:38
I flicked over to Van Helsing the same night....then watched something I found better.I watched it before and apart from the opening scene and a throwback Dracula, it was a waste of time imo.
give me Police Accademy 3,4 and five and I have to watch.....oh and hook.
Posted on Friday November 16, 2007, 13:30
I don't care what anyone says, I loved Van Helsing. Other bad films I love - Dracula 2000, Underworld Evolution, lots of 80s films like Pretty in Pink. Something that I hated that everyone else seemed to love - Transformers. What a let down that was.
Posted on Friday November 16, 2007, 16:46
The Mummy Returns
Plan 9 from out of space - legendary bad film.
Posted on Friday November 16, 2007, 17:55
If you haven't seen "The Secret Agent Club," your life has been unkind to you.
Posted on Friday November 16, 2007, 18:06
Two words -Hudson Hawk.
If only for the sight of David Caruso disguised as a statue.
Posted on Friday November 16, 2007, 20:41
Xanadu - The Music, The Film, A Place Where Dreams Come True...
It really is soooo bad it's good!!!!
Once seen never forgotten.
I saw the Broadway musical version recently and it hams itself up perfectly and has been a huge hit...who'd have thought...
Posted on Saturday November 17, 2007, 10:03
Thank you! Finally someone has notice that Van Helsing is one of the best bad films ever! I acknowledge that it's terrible, but that is why it is just so bloody good. Richard Roxburgh...fabulous from wig to accent. Have seen this way to many times for my own good, and it only gets better when drunk. Watch the cast commentary on the DVD, I urge you.
Posted on Saturday November 17, 2007, 21:04
What film do I love to love despite everything? Clue. The phrase that comes to mind rhymes with "Gutter Spite", but it's ridiculously entertaining to see some pretty first rate actors doing their best with some dreadful lines and, hey, 3 (count them) THREE endings!! What more could you ask for?
Posted on Sunday November 18, 2007, 10:43
Someone stuck Starship Troopers on here. ST is not a film so bad it's good, it's one of the best films EVER made and are you post should be removed for being too offfensive.
Posted on Sunday November 18, 2007, 14:43
Tremors ROCKS I'm not entirely sure it belongs on this list...
No, no in my heart of hearts I know it does. Apparently there's a Tremors 3 - anyone seen that?!
Posted on Sunday November 18, 2007, 18:35
Helikat - right on. How Tremors can even be mentioned as a bad film is strange. There are a number of films, which are good - Independence Day, Starship Troopers etc which aren't bad at all. Empires ratings of them would show that!
Posted on Monday November 19, 2007, 12:40
Fuck me - someone put some Police Academies on here. No NO NO NO NNOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! Never has anyone sat down and watched any of them horrendous horrorfests and thought "You know what, this is so shit it's alright!"... They're just plain shit!
Posted on Monday November 19, 2007, 14:59
Which Sylvester Stalone fim gets the vote in this category? I choose Cobra.
Posted on Monday November 19, 2007, 16:36
Is Chained Heat 2 classed as a film?
Posted on Monday November 19, 2007, 19:53
Over The Top gets the stallone award- brillaintly shit. The end where the kid screams: " Dad! Over the Top!" to egg Stallone on is one of the finest moments in "shitty but good shitty cinema" ever...
Posted on Thursday November 22, 2007, 17:28
I am 100% behind you on this, olly. I saw this "film" at the cinema and left, wanting to join the undead out of sheer frustration that such a great premise had been ruined by having, firstly, Richard Roxburgh being as scary as a telly tubbie playing Dracula, and, secondly, the climactic scenes of the film ruined by Mr Sommers compulsion to have as many special effects operating on the screen at the same time. I was getting whiplash trying to keep up with what was going on!
But, like you, I happened upon it when it was on "council telly" xmas eve last year. Maybe it was the mulled wine's impact, but I really enjoyed it. I wasn't having to move my head like I was at a tennis match to keep up with the action, so I was able to enjoy the action at the end of the film. And probably because I was sitting and saying to myself " God, this film was crap. But the rest of the channels are worse", I had lowered expectations of eatching the film second time around than I had when I wasted £6.80 at the cinema.
This allowed me to engage what I like to call "The Last Boy Scout" portion of my brain, and sit back and just revel in the campness of the whole film. This IS a bad film, but unlike MI:2, doesn't take itself too seriously so we don't have to either.
And, let's be honest, Kate Beckinsdale's thighs are always worth looking at, any time of the year.
Posted on Saturday November 24, 2007, 17:22
Now let me think.Harley Davidson and the Marlboro Man.The Adventures of Ford Fairlane (which is fucking awful,but adheres to the rules of PI movies).Hudson Hawk.The Phantom (I don't care what anyone says)and the heavyweight champ.....Chill Factor!
Posted on Saturday November 24, 2007, 22:15
Everything about it is lamely bad and unbelievably overblown. Why bring Trinity back at the end of Reloaded just to die again in a sickeningly long and untouching scene. Why have the main action set piece completely populated by second tier supporting characters? Why sideline the epitomy of cool, Morphius, as a cardigan wearing sidekick following his ex's orders?
But god help me, watching in the cinema with wide eyes as the sentinels burst through the hole in biblical proportions, or feeling chills as that overbaked yet immense classical music booms away to Neo and Agent Smith continuously causing atomic-sized explosions as they touch (imagine the damage if they had sex!) I can't help but be blown away by the sheer guts and epic scope of it all... even if it is shit wiped on celluloid.
Posted on Sunday November 25, 2007, 22:04
Nah, both Matrix sequels were total balls. Apart from the motorway chase in the 2nd one.
Posted on Tuesday November 27, 2007, 16:24
Nah, the motorway chase was balls as well. That "upgrade" agent could have decapitated Morphious with one dig. Them wanky twins that just turned their collission off whenever they fancied. And that bit where the lorries smash into each other and the camera spins around?
It's a teeny weeny bit easier to do that spinning thing when working with 3D models instead of live action. You just press the right cursor button a few times.
Posted on Sunday December 2, 2007, 11:45
omega man, raise the titanic, bear island, dawn of the dead, damnation ally, these are the clunky movies that are best watched on a cold damp day like today fire up the plasma order chinese food get the central heating whaked up sit back in your underpants bliss!
Posted on Monday December 3, 2007, 13:33
Hudson Hawk is perhaps the greatest crap film ever made
Posted on Wednesday December 5, 2007, 14:22
Aha! I am not alone in appreciating the stupid qualities of Van Helsing!!
My other favourite is the League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen! Spotting the flaws in this film is a much favoured past time. Like the fact the collosal ship of Nemo's can magically fit in both the Thames and the canals of Venice!
Posted on Thursday December 6, 2007, 15:09
I love good bad films!!
Masters of the Universe with Dolph Lundgren is a fave or Timecop with Van Damme. I actually thought Van Helsing was enjoyable too. I also like:
End of Days
Police Academy 2
other examples of the genre!!
Posted on Wednesday December 12, 2007, 01:54
Yeah I can't believe somebody would add Tremors, Gremlins 2, & Starship Troopers to a list like this. The're not so-bad-there good, they're just plain & simply AWESOME! Same goes for the recent Mummy movies, they may not be Oscar worthy but they sure are fun. Probably my favorite so-bad-its-good movies would be Con-Air and most anything Hulk Hogan (Suburban Commando RULES). I have to give Van Helsing credit for one thing, damn Kate Beckinsale looked hot in that movie.
Posted on Wednesday December 12, 2007, 17:30
I have to say I like a guitly pleasure now and again but it is a fine line. I have never brought myself to watch van Helsing and I don't think I will, and the Joel Schumacher Batman films were apalling. Deeply apalling. HOWEVER, I will now undermine myself and any pretense of good taste by offering my favourite selection of 'dodgy' films. I'll probably think of more later too.
Walking Tall (The Rock, Johnny Knoxville, 90 minutes of knowing exactly what is going to happen. Plus The Rock's commentary on the DVD is actually brilliant).
The Core (way to nuke the centre of the earth Aaron and Hilary! Plus Delroy Lindo getting melted)
Independence Day (does this count or do people think it's properly good?)
How To Lose A Guy In 10 Days (there has to a rom com or you aren't a real man!)
Crocodile 2 (on one of those creature feature box sets, featuring the gratest 'fuck' and 'motherfucker' based swearing masterclass I have EVER witnessed. Seriously.)
Morten S. Clausen
Posted on Tuesday December 18, 2007, 01:36
Olly, you're not well, mate. I'm sending you some sleeping pills. Back of a postcard all right?
Posted on Tuesday December 25, 2007, 10:36
Anything from the gods of 80s action Sly and Arnie...all shocking really but nevertheless brilliant.
The Running Man, Cobra, Rocky IV, Commando, Demolition Man...so much fun.
"Hey dirtbag, you're a lousy shot...I hate lousy shots..." brilliant.
Posted on Monday January 14, 2008, 13:12
Masters of the Universe! Dolpf Lundgren is so bad that it makes the movie all the better & Frank Langella's Skeletor is flawless (especially when he becomes Master of the Universe). And it has James Tolkan with his patented 'Mr. Shouty' role & beetroot face.
Also Rocky IV - the best songs of the series (No Easy Way Out & Hearts On Fire), the best training sequence, an unbelievable victory against a giant & Dolph Lundgren's perfectly bad dialogue delivery. What's not to love?
Posted on Wednesday January 16, 2008, 07:43
If its one of the endless stalk and slash sequels it goes on the list. Barely any plot, shite acting and full of cliches, yet getting adrenaline fueled kicks of seeing waster jock types being slaughtered,more spectacularly each time, by psychos you just cant help but relate too. Or is that just me? Oh, and the Godfather 3, tolerable for sake of class of first two and Pacino
Posted on Friday January 18, 2008, 18:22
Bulletproof Monk... sorry!!!
and unfortunately I will be paying to go see Dungeon Siege when (if) it is released here in the UK - I know it will suck to the tenth level of hell - but I'm prepared to go there for The Stath...
Posted on Sunday February 24, 2008, 18:34
I agree with what many of the above have said. Sky captain, The mummy1 and 2, Van helsing, transporter1 and 2, the scorpian king, War, Godzilla are all very watchable. I'm not sure about the day after tomorrow.as its the type of film that you will watch until all the action as the start has stopped then get bored. I haven't seen starship troopers yet but I'll see it the next time its on TV.
The rock, armageden and independence day are really good films.
Anything with seagal or van damme is just dreadful these days. Although it would be good if they were in a film together like Stathan and Li in War.
Posted on Sunday February 24, 2008, 19:14
Swordfish... another Hugh Jackman stinker which is a great lazy sunday afternoon watch.
Rock star computer hackers fuelling a bling bling war on terror.. priceless.
Posted on Thursday February 28, 2008, 21:38
Posted on Saturday March 1, 2008, 01:08
The Mummy, The Mummy Returns and The Scorpion King are top of the list. They're rubbish but that's why I love them.
I also love Red Sonja - this is just sentimentalism. It was my favourite film when I was about 4. Yes I am talking about that odd Arnold Schwarzenegger spin off from Conan with Brigette Nielsen in it.
Posted on Wednesday March 5, 2008, 13:08
Has anyone seen the much enjoyable "Aspen Extreme"? (It's tagline eccoes another cringeworthy classic, as the poster reads: "Top Gun on the slopes".) Watching this, you realize skiing really IS the easy part of these actors jobs....
Posted on Wednesday March 12, 2008, 14:11
Controversial choices aplenty.
DOA: Dead Or Alive, and sorely underrated.
Suggesting Crank may be blasphemy, but it's also clearly true. Watch the Stath pumping away at Amy Smart by the side of road with a cheering crowd, and try to deny me.
Finally, Speed. It's got Keanu Reeves and it doesn't have philosophy jammed in every orifice.
That, my friends is the very definition of Good/Bad
Posted on Thursday March 13, 2008, 13:11
Of course Highlander 2 just gets worse with each viewing...
Posted on Saturday March 15, 2008, 21:48
Any of the stupid muscled-out films made in the 80's.
Posted on Tuesday March 18, 2008, 21:28
Don't tell Mom the babysitter's dead. The classy and sophisticated 90s office fashions make it all the more worthwhile.
Posted on Sunday March 23, 2008, 02:11
There are lots of films which are generally considered bad, but which I find thoroughly enjoyable, such as...
Cutthroat Island - fantastic pirate film which Pirates of the Caribbean mimics(even down to the points in the film where certain things happen such as storms, ship to ship battles, and so on).
Star Trek V - enough action and humour to keep the film enjoyable
Batman Forever - a fun comic film with good action sequences
Judge Dredd - a good fast paced adventure
Mortal Kombat - a great combination of superb martial arts, magic, and special effects
Exit Wounds - great to see Seagal directing traffic at one point
The Scorpion King - good to see Kelly Hu in not a lot
Last Action Hero - an excellent in-joke movie.
Sudden Death - brilliant Die Hard style action.
Broken Arrow - brilliant fast paced fun.
Loaded Weapon 1
However Van Helsing was so bad I was laughing all the way through it in the cinema. Where did Stephen Sommers go wrong. The first Mummy film was an excellent Indiana Jones style actioner, but since then all he seems to want to do is go so overblown with the fantasy and cgi that he ruins a good film idea.
Posted on Sunday March 23, 2008, 02:25
Bad Boys 2 - the action was great and the humour brilliant
Terminator 3 - although the fact that the violence was toned down to a 12 cert is annoying
Lethal Weapon 4 - Jet Li kicks ass
Spaceballs - still waiting for Spaceballs 3: The Search For Spaceballs 2
Transformers - its bad but enjoyable (Michael Bay keeps 'glaring out' the visuals with a strong light source behind the foreground, and the dialogue jumps to avoid any character conflicts resolving or developing, which are annoying, plus it keeps going wildly from day time night time).
Independence Day - I can still remember the hype and the spectacle when it was released.
Blade Trinity - Jess Biel is hot and the action is still good, and the central character dark and anti-social.
Posted on Wednesday April 2, 2008, 20:38
True Lies, Running Man and Kindergarten Cop, sorry but Arnie is so bad he's good.
Hostel 1 & 2
All the Saw movies.......................
Posted on Thursday May 1, 2008, 21:27
i can't believe some of the movies listed here but it's even more surprising that two of the best good-bad movies have failed to be mentioned (unless i overlooked them)
Flesh Gordon (yes, it's an "e"!) - sex rays, hilarious!
that Batman movie with Adam West - the Joker with a mustache under his white make-up.
both are awesome movies to watch when you're hammered!
Posted on Saturday May 31, 2008, 14:53
Gotta go with Judge Dredd man, for these reasons...
1) great production design
2) big robot that looks like arnies dad
3) You can't say stallone doesnt look like Dredd (with helmet on at least).
4) Just how bored does Von Sydow look...hilarious
5) Armand Assante, star of underated spoof, Fatal Instinct!
Posted on Tuesday June 3, 2008, 13:13
The League of Extraordinary Gentleman was weirdly entertaining. But I think my favuorite bad one is The Chronicles of Riddick - it's so ridiculous and has such an awful script, but it has Judi Dench being all mystical and a hell of a lot of fun! I actually watched it every day for a couple of weeks when I got the DVD!
Posted on Wednesday June 4, 2008, 13:39
High School Musical.... nuff said!
Posted on Wednesday June 11, 2008, 13:38
Commando. I hadn't seen it for years and then it was on a few weeks ago. The whole film is bloomin hilarious (love the bit where he tools up at the gun shop and is then immediately arrested. It's the only believeable part of the story!!!). The characters, the situation and the Freddie Mercury/army psycho baddie are all classsic 80's. But the finale and the kill count involved is just every Arnie stereotype going:
Absurd sized gun - Check
Running around with greased up pecs - Check
Baddies falling like wheat before a combine harverster - Check
Murdering goons with improvised hand-held weapons - Check (potting shed FTW)
Baddies unable to shoot anything besides pillars and plants - Check
Little girl in dungarees in jeapordy - Check
Posted on Tuesday June 17, 2008, 20:18
St Elmos Fire - really really shite.
Posted on Thursday June 19, 2008, 08:12
I love Night at the Roxbury, is a dodgy movie but very funny! I bought it on VHS on impulse one day, introduced it to my friends and we never looked back, now nearly all my friends own it - "Did you grab my ass?"
Another guilty pleasure is Super Troopers, is dodgy but very funny.
Posted on Tuesday June 24, 2008, 14:40
Broken Arrow never fails to crack me up.
Delroy Lindo is so fucking serious throughout and Frank Whaley is all too aware that this was far from the greatest way to follow up Pulp Fiction and Swimming With Sharks.
What about the peerless Mr. Slater? Pioneering the stifled laughter that Mr. Clooney showcased during the 'Alfred's not sick, he's dying' scene in Batman & Robin.
Samantha Mathis almost manages to emerge unscathed from this twisted genius on sheer cuteness alone. That is, until the scene with Deakins and the nuke at the end, where I am 110% convinced that she is brought to climax at gunpoint (I am also equally as sure that this wasn't the initial intention of Mr. Woo or the writers).
Deakins' meathead henchman: "Son of a bitch! Shockwave brought down the damn chopper! Deak, you the man!"
Lastly, Mr. Travolta, you are a star. The Rock aside (which just manages to escape being grouped into the 'so-bad-it's-good elite') I have never laughed so hard in all my life at such wanton scenery chewing. He is a maelstrom of gurning, toothy, overblown ham. Fucking brilliant.
Posted on Monday June 30, 2008, 15:55
i love cheesey naff films so here goes, howard the duck absolutley dreadful but i love it. beastmaster he has ferrets helping him out ....whats not to love. warlock. anything witht the seagal even the ones were he's a big bloated mess of a human being.
roadhouse is amazing!!!
Posted on Wednesday July 2, 2008, 13:19
This is quite possibly the worst movie I have ever seen and this silly blog made me give it another chance. Never again. I actually cried when i saw this at the cinema and it was on a first date!!!!!
Not cool. Not good. Not deserving.
Posted on Tuesday July 29, 2008, 14:23
You can do a lot worse than some bad Arnie flicks for those hungover Sunday afternoon. I've got a lot of love in my heart for Last Action Hero and, I have to confess, Kindergarten Cop. Anyone? anyone...?
Posted on Sunday August 17, 2008, 05:27
Van Helsing is entertaining so long as you turn off your brain. Don't get all the hate; if you don't care for it it should be water off a duck's back, not worth any anger.
The Fifth Element - Almost always have to stop and watch this when it's on.
Last Man Standing - Chris Walken alone is worth a viewing.
Soldier - Cheesy sci-fi but Kurt Russell is bad-ass despite being almost mute throughout.
Posted on Sunday August 17, 2008, 12:10
How has nobody yet mentioned Troll 2?!?! Vegetarian goblins, 'pissing on hospitality', grandads with molotov cocktails and 'oh my gooooooooooooooooooood!' A work of unmitigated genius
Posted on Friday August 22, 2008, 18:23
Okay, I have to defend some films too: Tremors was always fantastic - especially when I was six and Nan let me stay up to watch it on a regular basis. Big Trouble in Little China is SUPPOSED to be tacky! That's the point! My best mate and I love it anyhow. Guys above me mentioned Soldier and Escape from LA (I think it's the effects that are dire here...) but they're still entertaining and have Kurt in them. To be fair, I've not seen a film he's made that's not watchable (even the bad ones) and I have seen every film he's made (yes... I'm that sad).
As for so bad it's funny, yes Congo does get a vote ("STOP EATING MY SESAME CAKE!") as do all those Sky One/ Sci-fi channel crap-fests featuring dumb American towns being eaten by CGI pihrana/locusts/cobras/moths/anything else absurd that they can think of. I love those....
Posted on Tuesday August 26, 2008, 00:02
The Mummy Returns - not ground-breaking of any sort, but it has everything you need in a film: comedy, romance, thrilling fight scenes, resurrection, and weird pygmy things using pea-shooters. Ah, the fun
For some reason I also like The Simpsons Movie. Worst thing I've ever seen, if I hadn't already seen the show I would want nothing to do with it. Yet I find it more captivating each time i watch...
Posted on Monday October 13, 2008, 22:53
I am sure in years to come, when i have had my third stroke, and am sat in my nursing home in front of the TV, that i will watch the worst of Eddie Murphy's films (95% of his films) and find movies like Meet the Klumps entertaining, but with any luck the Morphine will kick in, and i will be spared such misery.
I only hope though that at my home they have a copy of A.I. since i know the jury was out on that one, but i looked at it again recently, and it is rather good. Two hours plus time could be worst spent then watching this odd little movie.
Posted on Thursday November 13, 2008, 11:47
CONGO: Was spending quite weekend in a few weeks back and in my channel hopping I came across Congo, it had just started, so I left it on for awhile........thinking the whole time "God this is a pile of tripe".......then it was over!!! I had watched the entire thing and what's more I'd enjoyed it.
It is truly one of the worst films I've ever seen but I could not turn it off.
I love the scene where they all sing California Dreaming....so so cheesy!!!
My favourite, so bad it's good is Highlander.......I mean come on Sean Connery plays a man called Juan Sánchez Villa-Lobos Ramírez, and he has the thickest Scottish accent ever........but then again he is Sean Connery so he can do what he wants!!!
Posted on Wednesday November 26, 2008, 22:20
Posted on Saturday November 29, 2008, 20:00
yeah starship troopers is a load of total shit but you cant help but watch it to the very end, i saw it for the first time when i was 7 but even den i knew it was a load of crap. mind u i still tune in every time its on.also anyfing with claude van damme
Posted on Sunday November 30, 2008, 05:54
The Cable Guy, Anaconda, Far and Away (shannon you're a corker!), A League of their Own and Van Helsing.
Posted on Sunday December 7, 2008, 03:46
I'm fairly excited about this blog as I love a top notch so-bad-it's-good.
Generally it's going to be squarely situated in the action/horror/sci-fi genre as unshamefacedly anti-brain sentiments do seem to throw themselves up more often than not in these genres.
Anaconda - spesh that bit where Owen Wilson gets eaten and then you see his sillhouette/shape in the snake's cgi belly.
Deep Rising - which is just classic so-bad-it's-goodery.
Batman Forever - I enjoyed Jim Carrey in this a lot. And Tommy Lee Jones is just good in everything even though this is practically a cameo.
The Transporter- barely any plot but kick ass fight scenes and Jason Statham's naked torso covered in oil. (Not so much Transporter 2, but I do like it when the psycho model licks his face in the car and he looks like he's going to be ill.)
The Tomb Raiders- I love her in this role.
Under Siege 1 and 2- just breathtakingly inexplicable.
Mean Machine- at the end there seems to be a random explosion, but it doesn't really matter why. This film is pure mantainment, and as a girl who watched it with a house full of girls this makes it hilarious, as does Vinnie Jones' attempt at an emotional moment after the old bloke gets blown up.
Grease 2 because it's awesome in the scope of its awfulness
Oh there's too many!
Luckily I never saw Van Helsing at the cinema - but it has its charms. Could.not.believe.that ending though!
Posted on Wednesday December 17, 2008, 19:40
Christ I forgot, Star Wars the best good bad film ever! Ha disucss that!
Posted on Thursday December 18, 2008, 14:43
OK, I haven't seen Van Helsing, but by the sounds of it Im not missing much!
Deep Rising-my best friend made me watch this at a sleepover when I was 10. I don't think Ive ever forgiven her, even at 10 I knew it was absolute shit.
Sleepstalker-Well, I think thats the name, stumbled across it one late Sat night after being out and I couldn't switch off it was so badly enjoyable.
St Elmos Fire-I like Brat Pack movies, but this was pretty bad. I tried to like it, but it's just embarrassing-Judd Nelson going yuppie, Ally Sheedy and Andrew McCarthy's shower sex scene, all just wrong wrong wrong.
Matrix Sequels-I just wish I'd never seen them, horrible movies.
Battlefield Earth- I couldn't watch all of it! That stupid screen wipe ever 3 min was driving me insane. Is it a comedy??
Chances Are-I had to like it for Robert Downey Jr only.
She's All That-typical Freddi Prinze Jr late 90s, just far too cliched, rubbish.
Posted on Thursday December 18, 2008, 16:53
Worst films that are brilliant? there are in fact so many. What a lot of people fail to catch on to is that there are so many levels when it comes to shit films. I love Smokey and the Bandit, terrible film really, cheesy, dated etc... but something is just so wrong its right. Schwarzenneggers Commando, bad, but on so many other levels great! Play the continuity cock up drinking game to this one and you wont make it past the initial set up, but whats not to love? Worst though, and by all means best, is a little film called 'Cool as Ice'. Starring 80's surfboard hair-rapper Vuh-nilla Ice. I came across this on a saturday morning when myself and some friends were hung over lounging around the front room. It came on and no-one could (be bothered to) find the remote to change channels. WOW! and ten minutes in no-one wanted to what a corker/stinker! Featuring some of the most innane posturing ever committed to celuloid by mister Ice and co and lines of dire-logue like "drop that zero and get with the hero!" and my favourite which is a real challenge to drop into conversation and walk away from unscathed, "lets G-O!" How could we not end up loving it and consequently tracking it down, though only on video. I challenge you all if you havent seen it, do. but dont make up your mind right away, let it seep into your conciousness over the next few days and then see if you are able to d-d-d-drop it!
Posted on Friday December 19, 2008, 17:17
I know there are soooo many!! One of the best is BMX Bandits a cheap, complete crap bit of tripe about 3 kids on funnily enoug BMX!! and baddies or somethingi culdnt follow it!!! But for the fact it has nicole kidman in full blown 80's ginger fro mode and well the worst sound effcts when the BMX do the stunts...WHOOOSSSSHH!!!! it';s hilariously shite!!! People are porbz gonna hate thisone but yes Perfect Stranger was bad but i still kinda guilitily enjoyed the bullshit it was spurting!!!
Posted on Saturday December 20, 2008, 03:47
Incredibly bad films that we know deep down are absolutely pish, yet when they hit the screen you're inexplicibly drawn to it like a magnet. Yes, we've all got them! This is my top ten list of guilty pleasures.
10. Bulletproof Monk
9. Mortal Kombat
8. Snakes On A Plane
6. Ace Ventura: When Nature Calls
5. Rocky IV
4. Fantastic Four: Rise Of The Silver Surfer
3. Starship Troopers
2. Batman Forever
1. Star Wars Episode 1: The Phantom Menace
Quality cheesey shite!!!
Posted on Tuesday December 23, 2008, 15:44
'Nasty Hero' deserves a little section all of its own:
This is an American TV film released on video ( on a limited bases in the 80s). My siblings and I stole it from our uncle when we went to visit him and he stole it back ( we suspect) when he helped us move, because that's when it disappeared. It is just hilarious, it never stops. Its about a car truck driver who was set up and goes to prison. The film begins once he's released and goes back to take revenge on the people that set him up. Need I say anymore? Complete with villains with exagerrated male egos in pastel coloured suits, rolled up sleeves and shoulder pads, peroxide blondes and our hero in greasy tight jeans and cowboy boots, tall, quiet and smouldering. For all its brilliant cheese, the car chases and fight scenes are not bad. The soundtrack is unabashedly 80s, you want to laugh but also kinda cry with nostalgia or sadness that you weren't old enough to enjoy the 80s!
Lastly my list:
Dumb and Dumber (this is so underrated, I'm not sorry!)
Get Over It
Fright Night 1+2
Bill and Teds Excellent/Bogus Adventures,
Posted on Monday January 5, 2009, 23:21
But Starship Troopers is not bad, its just a great film.
Posted on Thursday January 8, 2009, 18:51
anacondas: hunt for the blood orchid - the main character does a normal voice, then a dirty harry voice, back and forth, while one of the females does the same with her accent. great stuff!
boa vs python actually is better for this post, the entire thing, what a flick
Posted on Tuesday January 13, 2009, 13:52
Simple, straightfoward, actioners that dont even INTEND to be quality films don't really qualify for the 'so bad its good' label if you ask me. So if you enjoyed Snakes on a Plane or Welcome to the Jungle: good, you were supposed to!
If you manage to love a film despite (or because!) of pisspoor acting and shoddy direction, now were talking... Alone in The Dark was absolute drivel but it would watch it again tomorrow!
Posted on Tuesday January 13, 2009, 14:05
Plus anyone who mentions Starship Troopers here totally misses the point. It's an immensely clever satire, where Verhoeven manages to have you rooting for the fascist without anyone blinking an eye. But with spaceships and severed limbs! And (I'm sure this is the most genius bit of casting in movie history) the two blandest-looking, wooden-acting, pretty people EVER in the leads.
Ps: I have never seen Denise Richards look anothing other than mildly surprised and Van Diem look anothing other than slightly aggravated!
Posted on Friday January 23, 2009, 13:08
I'm sorry, so very sorry
Days of Thunder
Posted on Wednesday January 28, 2009, 17:20
Why has no one mentioned The Warriors.
Other so bad they are good films include Stripes, The Leprechan, Confessions of a Driving Instructor, Carrie, Heavy Metal, The Lost Boys (that dude miming and playing the sax is gold), The Strongest Man in the World, Conan the Barbarian, Jingle all the Way (dont know why, but when its on i watch it through to the end) (Arnie accent -Turbo Man), Freddy 3, Teenwolf (Styles T shirt- "What you looking at Dicknose"), Saturday the 14th too name but a few.
Posted on Thursday February 5, 2009, 21:26
I have a really soft spot for Bicentennial Man with Robin Williams. No matter how hard I try, I always well up at the end even though it's utter tripe.
Posted on Friday February 6, 2009, 02:23
What ! Am I the only person to have sat up till the early hours watching Battlefield Earth???
Also really like The Boondock Saints even though it appears the majority of reviews I've read slate it to the heavens and back (good that a sequel is on the way then - is it not?)
Posted on Friday February 6, 2009, 06:07
Easy! - Back To The Future. Just for the fact, that if you think about it from McFly's point of view he comes from the present & not the future, so he wants to go back to the present - so the title is from the point of view of the Doc and not the main character. Plus, when the Doc actually says it, it's freakin' awesome - & when he says it again at the end of the movie!
Posted on Friday February 6, 2009, 06:11
Aaargh! Ignore the above - I've posted in the wrong blog. Don't know how that happened! That's what I get for being drunk - bloody twat!
Posted on Wednesday February 18, 2009, 14:48
One word: Gymkata
Posted on Wednesday February 18, 2009, 16:54
Troll 2 is easily the best worst film ever. Isn't anything to do with trolls but vegetarian goblins instead, they just bought the rights to troll 1 to use the franchise name for their own ends. The acting is brilliantly awful, especially the witch/goblin queen, when some teenagers go into her house she just comes out and says "This iiss mmmmmyyyyyy hoouuse..." -said in the style of that waiter who had a stroke from the simpsons- the most obviously acted line to date. The sets wobbly and unconvincing. The timing of jumps moments is more like comic timing, i have never laughed so hard when the young boy goes and spies on the goblins having a church gathering. "Humans? ...urgh! Meat? ...yuck!".
I urge you to see this!
Posted on Friday February 20, 2009, 14:27
Look lets get one thing straight Commando or Starship Troopes do not belong to this category they are simply GOOD films.
I can't belive no one has mentioned "Daylight" as the ultimate so bad its good Stallone film, I laughed myself silly when I saw this.
And can't believe I'm about to type this but.... Charlies Angels anyone
Posted on Monday February 23, 2009, 20:43
im gonna go with Hudson Hawk it was slated on release and still doesnt get much respect from anyone but i loved it and bruce willis and danny aiello make a great double act
Posted on Wednesday February 25, 2009, 17:29
I have to agree Transformers and Independance Day.
But my guilty pleasure is Con Air and the Rock....t even so much that I have visited Alcatraz!!
When you look at them they are shit movies, but so shit there good and so watchable, mainly because of the effects and the cheesy dialog you can't really believe they were allowed to get away with..
I'm sorry but Back to the Future is a kick ass movie ...nuff said
Posted on Tuesday March 3, 2009, 10:51
1. David Lynches DUNE.
2. Most of the James Bond flicks.
3. Terry Gilliam's Brazil. ( Could not see it was brilliant on first viewing )
5. The Matrix II and The Matrix III
Posted on Wednesday March 18, 2009, 14:45
Can I say Grease 2? I was young but I was just old enough to know it was a bit rude. Never thought of it a sequel.
Posted on Monday March 23, 2009, 22:11
The first time I watched Pearl Habour on dvd [take note Americans... theres a U in harboUr...] I didn't like it, probably because I was 9 [or there abouts] and my brother kept on going on about how bad it was and in those days I believed anything he said! I recently watched it again with the surround sound on and I got completely sucked into it! So much so that I didnt notice when my parents came home and started hoovering...
Its one of those movies that all the reviews tell you are bad but are just really enjoyable!
Pretty much the same thing happened with The Island too. 'Cept I still think it's bad but watch it all the same!
Posted on Monday April 6, 2009, 14:37
You Got Served
Fast and the Furious (although I do want to throw the fuck up when Vin Diesel tells Paul Walker about when his Father died: "I watched my father burn to death. I can still remember him screaming. The people who were there said my father died long before the tanks blew. They said it was me that was screaming".)
Almost any Nicolas Cage film other than The Rock and Leaving Las Vegas
Posted on Wednesday April 15, 2009, 11:34
I have to admit that Van Helsing is a guilty pleasure for me, it is just so funny. But it can't hold a candle to The Exorcist 3. My favourite part is when the priest play by an oh so serious Richard Burton is aboard a plane piloted by Ned Beatty and he says in his best Shakespearean tone, "Ive flown here before, on the wings of a demon". Hilarious!!
Posted on Wednesday April 15, 2009, 17:33
van helsing i have to jump on that band wagon
high school musical 3 and twilight....they are both so awful it makes me cry a little that i can't seem to stop watching them
Posted on Monday April 20, 2009, 01:51
Waterworld- Its so good but so bad. Dennis Hopper truly makes a great villain: "I'm gonna keep and eye out for that icky freak" classic. Also, Costners boat is flippin' sweet!
Posted on Friday May 8, 2009, 03:55
I LOVE HUDSON HAWK.
Do with this information what you will, just dont hurt my family.
Posted on Wednesday May 20, 2009, 12:30
I keep enjoying both Mortal Kombat films (and even the Conquest series).
And I absolutely have a fantastic time when watching any film with Bud Spencer & Terence Hill in it!! :-)
These guys are absolutely the best worst actors in the best worst screenplays :-)
Posted on Sunday May 24, 2009, 12:42
Although i love the film Big trouble in little china would be god awfull if it wasnt for Kurt Russels awsomeness and great cheesy lines! "if im not back in an hour call the president" pure genius
Posted on Monday June 8, 2009, 21:23
Van Helsing is a masterpiece in ironic film brilliance. I would like to offer the following suggestions for "so bad it's good":
Rocky IV: An utterly appalling piece of capitalist propaganda where Rocky takes on the evil sviet Ivan Drago who is a big meanie, to the extent that he kills off Apollo Creed. But if your heart doesn't dance when the Russians start chanting for Rocky, you've a heart of stone.
Commando: I know some drone earlier said that this was "just a good film". Balls. It's appalling. But as a showcase of everything Arnie was great at, there's no better example; the fact that his performance is the most convincing in the film is testament to the lame acting skills of the supporting cast. But come on... "Let off some steam bennett" is a great McBain style line and the violence is brilliantly over the top.
Silence of the Hams: A long forgotten horror spoof starring Billy Zane in the lead. Most of the gags are god-awful but you groan and then you smile a little because it's so awful. One for ironic appreciation fans.
Posted on Tuesday June 9, 2009, 05:44
I must say, I love all of the movies I've seen with one exception: Eragon. The only thing that can redeem that load of crap is a good riff, Mystery Science Theater style. I even love Batman and Robin, and even the *really* geeky people hate that.
And I take offense to people calling Armageddon shite.
Posted on Sunday June 21, 2009, 23:00
Two years this has been up and nobody's mentioned it.
Renny Harlin's The Covenant. Fuckin' fantastic. From the bleach blonde 'bad-boy' screaming as they fly over a cliff "HARRY POTTER CAN KISS MY ASS!" to Taylor Kitsch's fantastic "MMMMPH!" after they've flipped some tarts skirt up to reveal a serious lack of knickers. Watching it it's like they took a softcore gay porno and removed all the sex scenes, leaving more sexual chemistry between the male leads than their prospective mates.
In fact the Empire review talking about how ridiculous and stupid it was, was the reason I rented this in the first place.
Posted on Wednesday July 15, 2009, 21:45
Snakes on a Plane
Scorpion King (love Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson)
Some Kind of Wonderful ("The only things I care about in this whole godamn life is me, my drums, and you." Classic dialogue!)
Teen Wolf - a basketball-playing, chick-scoring, van-surfing werewolf - ascending new heights in naffness, but gotta love it!
Posted on Thursday July 16, 2009, 15:30
Death wish 3 gets better with every viewing.
Posted on Monday August 31, 2009, 02:31
Top choice: Equilibrium
Almost everything about it fails but the Gun Kata makes up for a lot of it.
Also, The Wicker Man remake purely because of the bear suit...
Posted on Wednesday September 23, 2009, 20:20
Jumper. I was really looking forward to it, and it turned out to be a massive disappointment. Bad acting, bad script, bad film.
Then they showed it at our student cinema. I had nothing better to do, so went to see it with a few friends. It was surprisingly fun! Billy Elliot throws a bus at Sam Jackson! A bus! True, Hayden Cristensen still couldn't act, and his love interest had such a bad case of personality bypass that I can't remember the name of the character or the actress (although she was scarily thin...), but it kept us entertained for a couple of hours, and, basically, that's the minimum requirement for any film, isn't it?
Also, The Long Kiss Goodnight. 'Nuff said.
Posted on Friday November 6, 2009, 23:49
I unfortunatly must admit i loved van helsing when it first came out (i was 11 BTW so i have some exuse) but it's very nostalgic for me even though it is awful.
Posted on Saturday August 7, 2010, 09:58
A film about goblins.
Best dialogue ever.
"you can't piss on hospitality"
"They ate him,, and now there going to eat me... OH MY GOOOODDDD"
Posted on Tuesday October 12, 2010, 22:21
Gotta go with the good old Batman and Robin (though Batman Forever had it's awful moments as well). Honestly, who can't laugh at "It's an ice-hockey team from hell!" or "Put him in the cold ray."
Posted on Saturday January 8, 2011, 00:45
I dont care what people think of me but i love.....
In the name of the king
Where else will you see Jason Statham with a boomarang, or Ron Perlman walking happily along with a piggy? No-where! That's why this film is great. I also love Burt Reynold's eyebrow hair mis-match and his NINJA'S! Burt Reynolds has ninja's for christ sake!
Posted on Saturday January 8, 2011, 15:54
the 13th warrior is my favourite good "bad" film: I love how the main character isn't the hero; how Bulvae kicks ass throughout the film; "speak the sounds that I draw!!!"; some of the names are brilliant too :)
If you haven't seen it track it down it's genius :D
Posted on Wednesday January 26, 2011, 10:24
Well that's jus' nitpicking, innit?
Best worst movies:
LXG - Coolest look & feel, worst plot-holes in a movie ever.
Spiderman 3 - Great action sequences, some brilliant character development, very funny, although highly ambitious multi-plot.
X-Men 3 - Epic climax (the bridge-scene, Alcatraz), very audience-unfriendly.
Knowing - Awesome effects, intense disaster scenes, improbable unfolding of events.
Batman & Robin - Its a tragic comedy. Disney said you gotta make 'em laugh, and you gotta make 'em weep. Every fanboy and every audience member across the globe did both in equal measures.
Superman IV - Silly dialogue, effects, and plot, so much so, its admirable. When I watch this, I can't take my eyes off the screen.
Escape from L.A. - The cheapest effects, but very entertaining, from start to finish.
Howard the Duck - Just plain awe can be ascribed to this super-80's disaster-piece.
Son Of The Mask - The film you watch when feeling good while hating something so badly.
Posted on Thursday May 26, 2011, 11:16
Almost all of my favorite director movies, John Carpenter, were considered bad at the time of their release. Not me, I loved them at the right time and I always will. Today, the so called movie critics ( experts ), change their opinions. Now, they´re great movies ! 15 years from now, everybody will say that Ghosts of Mars is in fact a great movie !
Posted on Friday October 21, 2011, 16:03
i have to agree with many of the films listed in other people's comments. i love the mummy returns, the scorpion king, van helsing and the league of extraordinary gentlemen. but someone seriously thinks the princess bride is a film so bad it's good? no way, it's the greatest film ever made!! ok maybe a slight exaggeration, but you see my point...
Posted on Tuesday January 10, 2012, 20:38
All the Transformers movies, I know they are all deeply flawed, especially Revenge of the Fallen, but I can't get enough of Optimus Prime and co. beating the crap out of other giant robots in ever slicker and more entertaining ways. Also Megan Fo
Blair witch 2: Book of Shadows is possibly the worst movie ever made but is just so ridiculous it's good. It ends up being the opposite of the original, the first hint at how stupidly bad it is is when the appearance of a tree that wasn't there before, in a forest, is played as a major scare. The films plot is basically summed up into: Some weirdos go to the woods, dance around naked, play with skulls (which appear out of nowhere for the purpose of concealing bits and pieces) kill eachother and face eachothers naked bodies into closts to hide them while the rest argue over who is the Blair Witch. Also an owl flies through the window at one point for no reason and the witch is revealed: She's a girl in a white dress who walks backwards, making her the least threatening villain of all time.
The lesser Rocky films and Never Back Down warrant inclusion for having great training montages and fights.
And while we're on Stallone, all the Rambo films are awesome. Even if only one of them doesn't revolve around an American soldier being dropped into a country, killing hundreds of the indigenous population and somehow not starting a war.
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