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Who Should Be Captain America?
 Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 10:45 by Chris Hewitt in Casting Couch
 This may be the geekiest thing I’ve ever said, but if I could have a free webcam link-up with anywhere in the world right now, I wouldn’t plump for the usual salubrious suspects (so, Rosario Dawson, you can breathe a sigh of relief now and go about your business), but instead I’d choose to be connected to the office of Kevin Feige, President of Production at Marvel Studios. Why? Because, whenever he has his back turned, I’d be trying to sneak a peek at the documents on his desk. Because I’m guessing that somewhere there, amidst the scripts, the detritus and half-filled coffee mugs, there might well be a piece of paper with a bunch of names on it. The names of the actors who could well fill the shoes of The First Avenger: Captain America. Let’s ignore that horrible title – as Olly Richards so correctly pointed out in his story the other day, most people will just call the forthcoming movie ‘Captain America’, the same way as they’ll refer to X-Men Origins: Wolverine as ‘Wolverine’ or, in Helen O’Hara’s case, ‘My Happy Place’. Let’s focus on the positive: at long last, after many years of trying, Marvel has finally announced a concrete date for the big-screen debut of the last of its crown jewels – a man so A-list he wears the damn letter on his forehead. And that date is May 6, 2011. At first, you might think that’s a long way away, so why bother about casting now? Well, a) because Captain America is such a big concern for Marvel that they’ll be leaving nothing to chance, b) filming could start as early as 2010, maybe even 2009, so this thing’s on the fast-track and c) I’m bored. First off, let’s lay out a few ground rules here. It’s entirely possible that Marvel and whichever director they appoint to the gig will end up casting an unknown. After all, this role is so iconic, so weighty and so potentially controversial (we’re not entirely convinced that Captain America’s going to play that well in, say, Iran. Or Syria. Or Russia) that it’s hard to imagine a big-name star taking the risk. And right now, the perfect Captain America – blond, thirtysomething, built like a brick shithouse but not too ostentatiously, virtuous, noble, true and with a jaw that could cut diamonds – could well be waiting on tables at a Beverly Hills restaurant by night, while slogging through auditions by day. But I’m not so sure. This, like I said, is the last of Marvel’s heavy hitters, and they’re going to go big with it. A-list director. A-list writer. And quite possibly, an A-list star. Or at least, someone we’ve heard of. So, without any further to-do, here are several names – in no particular order - that I think could well – or should well – be on the piece of paper that may or may not be on Feige’s desk right now. If only I could get this bloody webcam working, I’d be able to find out… Matthew McConaughey Not my first choice, by any stretch of the imagination, but already there are reports that suggest that McConaughey may be uppermost in the minds of the Marvel suits. And in a way, you can see why – McConaughey does tick most of the boxes. He’s blond, for starters. This is not a dealbreaker, as a later choice will illustrate, but if Marvel are going to cast a traditional Cap, I’d rather they went for a natural blond actor. It may be a minor quibble to some of you, but for me there are some dark-haired actors who just couldn’t pull off the dye job. Then, he’s ripped. But not so ripped that we wouldn’t initially believe him as weedy soldier Steve Rogers before he’s transformed, via the super-soldier serum, into Hunk O’The Month, Steve Rogers (of course, this effect could be achieved via CG, as with Tobey Maguire’s emaciated look in Spider-Man). He’s also roughly the right age. Captain America is a strange character in that Rogers needs to be young to convince as a grunt, but old enough so that he seems like a man’s man, and also so he’s convincing when he starts giving moralistic ‘it used to be all fields round here’-style lectures to people. So, while Rogers shouldn’t be as lived-in as, say, Robert Downey Jr.’s Tony Stark, neither should he be gambolling through fields like a newly-born lamb. McConaughey is 38, which just might be perfect. If there’s a Cap movie every two or three years, he’ll still be mid-forties by the time the third one comes out. So we’d avoid any nasty Roger Moore in A View To A Kill-type moments, when you fear that the hero might be struck down at any moment, not by an assassin’s bullet, but by cardiac arrest. However, there are cons to McConaughey – or McCons, if you will. Namely, that the guy has become something of a self-parody of late, appearing in endless waves of dreck, from Sahara to Fool’s Gold to Failure To flippin’ Launch, seemingly content to coast by on his toothy smile, considerable charm and ability to take his shirt off, no matter what the demands of the scene. And while he has proved in the past that he can act when he wants to – see Frailty or even We Are Marshall for proof of this – it might be hard to escape his stoner-slacker persona and take him seriously as Cap. So I’d have to give him a 6/10. Will Smith To paraphrase the Consulate Envoy in Lethal Weapon 2, “but, but, he’s black!” Well, yes, Will Smith is black. No denying that. And Captain America is so very, very white. There’s also no denying that. And it would be a huge thing – an enormous page-one rewrite of the character – for a black actor to play the symbol of America, the flag-bearer of the most powerful country on the planet. But if anyone can do it, Smith can. In fact, when I interviewed Smith for I, Robot back in 2004, I told him that I saw him playing Captain America one day. He smiled, and looked intrigued by the possibility. I’d like to think that maybe I set him to thinking about it, set him on a collision course with destiny. Of course, he might have simply been pressing the silent alarm button under his desk, but a guy can dream, right? Smith has proved repeatedly that he’s a fine actor who can dispense with the jocularity and one-liners when he wants to. Captain America would give him a chance to firm his jaw, embody an icon and deliver a career-defining performance. There’s always a danger with Cap that he can be rather stiff and two-dimensional, a cipher rather than a character, but Smith has become more grizzled and interesting over the last few years, and I firmly believe he would have the charm and the credentials to pull it off. Of course, there are obstacles in the way. Traditionalists wouldn’t stand for it, despite the fact that several Marvel characters have changed race on the big screen, from Michael Clarke Duncan’s Kingpin in Mark Steven Johnson’s Daredevil to *MINOR SPOILER* Samuel L. Jackson’s Nick Fury (if you’re wondering what I’m talking about, watch Iron Man and stick around for the very, very end) *MINOR SPOILER OVER*. But you could easily argue that Captain America was created in the 1940s, a time when the future was so white you had to wear shades, so it made sense for Cap to be caucasian. But now, why not have Captain America reflect a more modern and multi-cultural time? After all, there’s a great chance that, by the time Captain America opens in theatres, America will be under the leadership of its first black President, Barack Obama. Is it really too great a leap to make Captain America an African-American? And, of course, Marvel has explored this idea before with the alternative universe tale, Truth: Red, White & Black, in which a black soldier, Isaiah Bradley, briefly became Captain America. 9/10 Brad Pitt The A-lister who fits the job description to a tee. Or, at least, he did a couple of years ago. Now, William Bradley Pitt may be just a little too old – 47 by the time the first Cap movie came out, mid-50s by part three (if there is one). And while he takes good care of himself, so the Roger Moore Syndrome needn’t be a factor, we think that might just be a little too much. Also, we can’t really see Pitt committing to a three-picture deal, or wanting to squeeze himself into Cap’s red-and-white tights. OK, red, white and blue tights, but that didn’t rhyme. However, you never know – if Marvel can persuade, ooh, David Fincher to direct, then he’s a shoo-in. With Edward Norton as The Red Skull? 8/10 Jason Lewis Most of you will be saying, ‘Jason who?’, but Sex And The City fans will be screaming with delight right now. Am I right, ladies? High five! (I should explain… I bought my girlfriend a SATC box-set a couple of Christmases back and am fully versed in the show; it’s pretty good, actually. And I still have all my testicles.) Anyway, Lewis played Smith on the show – the stud muffin boyfriend of Kim Cattrall’s Samantha. And in all respects, he’s pretty much perfect for the role, apart from the fact that he doesn’t show up on any A-lists right now. But he’s tall, blond, athletic, handsome, blue-eyed, and a fine actor. Marvel could do a lot worse. And we could always combine his Cap with a SATC sequel, which features Carrie Bradshaw wittering on about self-fulfilment, before she’s rudely interrupted by the Red Skull, who dropkicks her head off. 8/10 Aaron Eckhart Again, the age thing is a factor – Eckhart is 40. And of course, he’s Two-Face in The Dark Knight (and very possibly a third Batman film), and might not want to take on another comic book movie role. But in every other respect, I can’t shake the feeling that Aaron Eckhart is about as perfect a fit for a traditional Captain America as there can be. His jaw is so firm and jutting that you could build a condo on it. He’s a damn fine actor – possibly the finest on this list. Any more blond, and he’d be albino. And he’s long, long overdue a shot at a hero role. It would seem that Eckhart naturally gravitates toward dark, twisted roles – his only big-budget hero role to date is The Core, but I recall him being quite effective in that, and would love to see him in Cap’s outfit. And no, it’s not a sex thing. 9/10 Josh Duhamel There is one rule I’m not willing to bend for Captain America: the actor who plays him must must MUST be American. Which rules out the likes of Gerard Butler, Guy Pearce and Ryan Reynolds (he’s Canadian). But on the blond-haired thing, I’m prepared to be a little flexible, which opens the door for Duhamel. The Transformers star has been on the cusp for a long time, without breaking into the A-list, but he’s a known quantity, convincing at the action stuff and charming enough to carry the movie, as anyone who saw his turn in Win A Date With Tad Hamilton! will know. There are doubts over his acting chops, as he hasn’t really been put to the test on the big screen just yet (in fact, he’s currently working on Mark Steven Johnson’s comedy, When In Rome, which will be only his fifth movie), but certainly he’s square-jawed enough, and at 35, might be absolutely the right age for the part. A dark horse? 7/10 Josh Lucas While discussing this blog yesterday, Helen O’Hara was insistent that I include Josh Lucas as an option for Cap. I really don’t see it myself, but since Cap candidates are thin on the ground – I was getting so desperate at one point, I started musing over James Van Der Beek – he’s in. And yes, he’s blond, and yes, he’s a fine actor, but Lucas is so obviously more comfortable with playing villains – thanks to his slightly deranged glare, and his silky voice, which you can more easily imagine making ransom demands than inspirational speeches – that I don’t think he’d cut the mustard as Cap. You’d be half-expecting him to team up with The Red Skull or Flag Smasher halfway through the movie and gun down a busload of innocent kids – and that’s never a good feeling to have about your hero. 4/10 Patrick Warburton This is not a serious suggestion – but he did play The Tick, and for that legendary performance alone, he should be considered for every role in every movie ever made. 11/10 Eric Close When discussion of movie stars soon runs dry – Matt Damon is too normal, Ben Affleck too tainted, George Clooney too old – the talk turns to TV stars who deserve a breakthrough to the big time. But even then, the well soon runs dry. Lost’s Josh Holloway? Nope. Matthew Fox? Nope. How about that guy from Chuck? What, seriously? But Eric Close shows promise. One of the stars of Without A Trace, he’s been quietly impressive for 136 episodes now without ever breaking into movies. He fits the bill looks-wise, and might be worth considering. We’d certainly give him a screentest. 6/10 So, what do you think, readers? Can you see any of these actors filling Cap’s wing-tipped boots? Have I made any glaring omissions? Could Will Smith really become Captain America? I look forward to your comments below.
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britesparc Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 11:19
If you were making a movie about Captain America today - that is, the soldier is recruited in the present day - then absolutely, Smith is the best choice. He's perfect. He can be the naive grunt, he can convince physically, he has the acting chops, and he can pull of the darker areas of the character (does he get embittered by policy? Does he question his leaders?). Crucially, he looks like a leader. Despite the whinging on the forum when Smith's name came up yesterday, I honestly believe you couldn't pick a better Cap if you tried.
However - and it's quite a large however - if Marvel are sticking with the comics' origin, and Cap is a solider recruited in the 1940s to fight the Nazis, then it sadly can't be Smith. Back then, the US army was still segregated, and there's no way they'd have allowed a black man to represent the country. True, there's Isaiah Bradley, who I think was supposed to be a test subject for the Captain America serum (haven't read the comic myself, but that's as I understand it), so even in the Marvel Universe there's a precedent for a "black Cap", but the "official" Cap back in the 40s would have to have been white. Sadly.
And, sadly, I still think that remains the best story. He's a soldier from the 40s re-awakened in the present day, with all its modern disillusionments. And the "First Avenger" title suggests Marvel is going with this story, too. So I think, unfortunately, that rules Smith out. Not sure who else I'd cast, in that case - maybe Josh Brolin, but more likely I'd scour the b-movies and TV shows for an up-and-comer.
One other problem, I reckon, is that the whole "pissed off with the modern world" story could come unstuck if the new President turns out to be good at the job, popular, and helps heal America's image around the world! |
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sowasred2012 Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 11:28
DENNIS QUAID! Well... Dennis Quaid 10 years ago definitely. I don't know of any other actor who embodies a certain kind of all American goodness, in the same vein as apple pie, as he does. Yeah, Dennis Quaid circa Any Given Sunday woulda been perfect.
Now? I really don't know. I'm tempted to say Nathan Fillion, he's got the build, but I'm not sure he's got the weight in his voice to carry it off. |
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sowasred2012 Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 11:35
Also, I'd like it if they retooled the the mythos so's Cap has a British cousin with similar abilities. He'd be played by Sean Bean and be called Captain Sheffield. |
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Chris Hewitt Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 11:36
Britesparc, good points well made. Thank God you made them, or the blog would have been even longer than it is.
I think Marvel are going with the 40s origin. Which makes Smith almost impossible, as you rightly point out. But given that they updated Stark's origin from Vietnam to the present-day and Afghanistan, who's to say that they won't bring Cap's origin forward slightly? But then again, World War II is such a perfect breeding ground for the Cap character - a time when America was totally united in fighting against a foe that was demonstrably evil, as opposed to the Vietnam War, for example.
And Sowas, good call on Dennis Quaid. But he's far too old now. |
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the ageless stranger Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 11:42
Amen on Aaron Eckhart.
If we're recruiting from TV, I'd like to nominate Tahmoh Penikett (Helo from Battlestar) . I know, I know, he's Canadian, but he's got the jaw, he's about the right age for young Steve Rogers, and given the type of character he plays on BSG, I reckon he could play the whole "Captain A is disillusioned when he wakes up" kinda thing. |
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Pitch Blue Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 11:44
Sorry but even putting Will Smith as a possibility is ridiculous. And yeah it does come down to the fact he's black. No getting away from it. Can you imagine putting a white guy in the role of Luke Cage "Power Man"? Or putting a white woman in to play Storm from X-men? No, didn't think so. Don't mess with the fundamentals; Cap'n America is a blonde, wholesome, about as all-American "Mom's apple pie" man you can get. Aaron Eckhart is inspired. We can get past him a Dent and Cap A, no problem. |
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Chris Hewitt Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 11:49
The whole point about Will Smith, Pitch Blue, is that blond, wholesome, apple pie America is rapidly becoming outdated and a thing of the past. If you want a Captain America who represents America as it is right now, then Smith is a viable candidate. But as I state above, it's unlikely to happen. Which isn't to say that the possibility shouldn't at least be discussed.
Power Man and Storm are black icons - much of their character, strength and who they are comes from being African-American, in Luke's case, and African, in Storm's case. They wouldn't work as well with white actors playing them - granted. They wouldn't work at all, in fact. But for me, Cap is not defined by the colour of his skin, but by what he represents. He is a symbol of America, and like I said, at this moment in time there's no reason why the symbol of America shouldn't be a black man.
IMHO, of course. |
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JS Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 11:55
Another no for Will Smith. If only because I would love one of the films to discuss the Super-Soldier Serum more generally. Having Captain America, who seeks to embody American ideals, come to terms with the fact that his government sought to recreate his abilities in a blatantly racist series of experiments would make for an exceptionally interesting, and nuanced, superhero film (provided an appropriate level of shield-throwing etc is included). One could even see that as the catalyst for him rejecting associations with the government, instead representing the nation. |
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sowasred2012 Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 11:59
I actually agree with Chris about Will Smith. I wouldn't have thought of it, but there's literally no reason why it couldn't be him since, as Chris points out, Cap was always more about what he represents than anything else.
I think it'd be a massive gamble on Marvel's part to go with the idea, but they've shown they're not averse to it, with the whole Nick Fury thing - but Fury was never quite as big as Cap. Of course, if you check The Ultimates line, one of the big things about Cap in that series is that his ideals *are* slightly out of whack with the modern world, he's much more jingoistic, even slightly misogynistic and xenophobic. So a white Cap would fit this role - that said, I much prefer Brubaker's more wholesome version of Cap and, in that case, I'd have no problem with a black Cap.
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Pitch Blue Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 12:04
Point taken Mr Hewitt and no reason at all but it all depends on where they're starting the story from. Are they gonna start it from the second world war and then goes into cryogenic state awaking in the 21st Century? If that's the case then it's gotta be the blonde-all-american-mom's-apple-pie man that is true to the original. If taking the story from now then I see your point but it still doesn't work for me. |
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Olly Richards Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 12:12
Not wanting to add to Chris's blog – because he's massively, vastly more knowledgeable on Captain America than I – but I think casting Smith could actually aid the film in a box office sense. This film could be a tough sell around the world where a lot of countries don't want to pay to be told America is awesome. But Smith, who is one of the most popular and financially successful actors on a worldwide scale (possibly the most successful) could counteract that. Don't think he'll get, or possibly even want, the role, but he probably wouldn't be the big risk that he might seem. |
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Pitch Blue Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 12:21
You've stirred one up now Chris.
Think of it this way; I hate people changing history in cinema, I hate the way the Americans won the war single-handedly. Yep that's right, didn't you know that there were no British at the D-Day landings? And the Americans also captured the first Enigma machine?!? Yeah they did because it's in the films so it must be true. I hate changing the history of something and this is no different. Captain America is a white blonde man. Don't go changing that.
Wish I could argue all afternoon but I have work to do... sadly. |
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tallaght24 Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 12:21
Gotta be Eckhart! I've been saying that on the imdb boards from day 1 to anyone who would listen. |
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tallaght24 Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 12:23
By the way pitchblue, you shouldn't antagonise Empire. They're a tight bunch...."you got my back Olly?", "yea...i got yo back Chris!" |
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sowasred2012 Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 12:27
But Pitch Blue... they aren't changing history... if Will Smith took the part all they'd be doing is altering the character to better fit the times. Like Spidey and the organic web shooters. It's a minor detail when you get right down to it. |
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Chris Hewitt Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 12:37
Pitch Blue, it's not changing history. It's changing the skin colour of a fictional character. Listen, I'm a geek - this is exactly the sort of suggestion that would normally work me up into a righteous frenzy. I can understand where you're coming from, and I understand why you're resistant to the idea (and that's all it is - an idea. My gast would be well and truly flabbered if Marvel actually cast Smith as Cap). But for some reason it makes sense to me. If someone tried to cast Smith as Superman, or Sharon Stone as a big-screen Dr. Who, or Verne Troyer as Bond, I'd probably be up in arms. But for me, Captain America has always been about ideals, and what he stands for. On those terms, Smith could work for me.
But yeah, I'm with you, Tallaght - Aaron Eckhart all the way. And there's no antagonising going on here - just a reasoned and calm debate. But yeah, we're a tight bunch. Aren't you the same with your friends? |
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Mad Dog Tannen Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 12:42
I'd like to offer my two pence on the issue of black actors playing characters that have been firmly established as white.
You could probably spend the rest of your life debating it, but in the end I think it simply boils down to this: does it FEEL right?
Depending on the character, it could go either way. A black actor as Superman? No, that's wrong. It just doesn't feel right.
A black actor as James Bond? Again, it's just wrong. You could argue against that 'til you drop dead from old age, but it will never be right.
A black actor as Captain America? Hmm ... sure, why not! A long as it isn't set in the 1940's, it seems perfectly do-able to me. Not my first choice, but I'd definitely go with it.
I think it's probably a case of the more iconic the character, the less you can change it. Captain America has kind of slipped into the past somewhat, so he's more open to interpretation. |
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tallaght24 Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 12:45
I haven't got any friends Chris....will you be my friend?
I like the way Eckhart has carved his way out from under Neill LaBute's armpit..*cough* wing. He has become more known to the wider audience. Have to say his part in 'Nurse Betty' was awesome...though the less said about 'Paycheck' the better...eh? |
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bobthegrinch Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 12:45
Has Chris Hewitt ever read anything with Captain America in it because every one of those is an awful choice. McConaughey, are you serious? I'd rather see Joe Pasquale do it. Eric Close is probably the best suggestion on here.
I don't understand this idea that he has to be played by an American. How many English people have played James Bond? Wolverine is Canadian, Hugh Jackman isn't. There's a reason it's called acting. Saying he has to be American is like saying he should have been frozen in a block of ice for 50 years to prepare for the role. It is more ridiculous than that weight watchers advert where that fat woman sings a rhyme about losing weight. It's acceptable to make him black as long as he's played by an American? Something tells me the American military 60 years ago wouldn't have chosen a black man to be their nations poster boy hero. I'm not saying it's right, but it wouldn't have happened. Saying he must be American (did I mention that's stupid, he won't actually be becomming Cap in real life) also rules out the person who has already embodied the characteristics required to play Cap when he played Captain Malcolm Reynolds. Yep, that old chestnut Nathan Fillion. If he doesn't get the Lone Ranger, he'd be perfect and it'd be daft to let the fact that he's Canadian get in the way. |
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Pitch Blue Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 12:46
Wow, never thought that Will Smith could cause so much concern Minor point? I think it's a major one. So much so that I wouldn't go and see it if Will Smith was cast... and I like Will Smith! And please don't bring box office into it! One of the major factors of crap films is all to to with box office. It's a popular character, if the story's right, the script well written and, dare I say it, the casting good then it'll make a decent amount whatever. Just look at the casting of Robert Downey Jr. as Iron Man/Tony Stark; not a MASSIVE movie star like Pitt or Depp etc. but he's absolutely perfect for Tony Stark, looks an' all. It doesn't have to be a HUGE movie star like ol' Big Willy.
Like I say, I could sit around with you guys supping on some cold beers in the sun discussing this all afternoon (god that sounds good), but I have to work. Honest. |
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grucl Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 12:47
What about Thomas Jane?
He fits the despription almost as good as Eckhart.
Plus he also played the Punisher so there would be a little in-joke on recent events in the comics! Geeks would rejoice! |
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tallaght24 Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 12:55
I'll have a Carlsberg pitchblue! |
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Chris Hewitt Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 12:59
Bob, thanks for the considered reaction. If you'd read the blog properly, instead of working yourself up into a frenzy of indignation, you'd see that I included McConaughey purely because he's rumoured to be the first choice for the role. Not my choice... which I think I pretty much made clear.
As for every single one of my choices being terrible... really? Even Patrick Warburton?
I can see your point about non-Americans playing Captain America - and you're right, Bond has only been played by two Englishmen (in the official movies, of course). But I feel that Cap is such an American icon that only an American would 'get' the role. I don't feel a Brit, or an Aussie, or a Canuck could invest in the character.
And, of course, I await your suggestions with bated breath. |
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Chris Hewitt Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 13:01
Grucl, I considered Tom Jane - absolutely. But thought his association with The Punisher wouldn't quite work. I don't believe Eckhart's involvement with Batman rules him out. |
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Helen OHara Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 13:01
Thomas Jane's already done a Marvel hero - or at least, anti-hero - which I suspect rules him out. Incidentally, I also think that Smith'd rock the part - he's got that sense of wholesomeness, and strength, and bags of charisma, plus he genuinely was a weedy-looking teen so he can identify with that.
As for Cap not having to be American, I think it's a different thing from Wolvie or Bond (who, incidentally, has never been played by an AMERICAN, a line the producers don't want to cross. Don't think a Yank has even directed but I could be wrong on that) because he' SO identified with the country. Arguably, so is Bond, but apparently Eon thinks that a native English-speaker who isn't American is close enough, so who am I to argue? |
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Mad Dog Tannen Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 13:01
Bobthegrinch, Wolverine is Australian, as is Hugh Jackman. |
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Mad Dog Tannen Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 13:04
Actually, I'm talking crap. Ignore my last post. Oops! |
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waltham1979 Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 13:05
I have a perverse idea in my head of a blonde Bruce Campball play Captain America - their is no better chin in Hollywood !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Pitch Blue Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 13:08
You've always had a point Chris, and to be honest it's a pretty good one, I just don't agree with it. However your other suggestion of Aaron Eckhart is damn near perfect. In fact I can't see anyone else playing him now that you've sewn that seed. Perhaps I'll have time this afternoon to mock Eckhart up as Cap in PhotoShop. Tee hee!
I'll have a nice cold Stella Peeterman. Sluurrrp!!!! |
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bennie Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 13:20
How about Viggo Mortenson? He proved in "A History of Volence" that he can play the heroic all american male infused with sinister morally ambigious undertones. Given alot of peoples opinion of American foreign policy an actor of this type could well prove an interesting choice. |
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deedeetee Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 13:20
An Empire casting blog and no one has mentioned Nathan Fillion yet? |
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drake22 Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 13:21
Never will smith, the black thing is part of ti but captain america is made in the 40s or 30s, not just written then. Its like the Kingpin, white is very key to his identity and symbolism. Also i think smith would make him too wise cracking etc, and cap isnt that really. What about Nathan Fillion, i saw someone said that somewhere else and he would be good! Then again im not a fan of captain america anyway. |
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tallaght24 Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 13:21
I know...Daniel Day Lewis. Shit..he's soooooo 'method' I really think he could pull off being blonde, although it would take months of living in Sweden before he REALLY nailed it! |
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gcj_1 Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 13:24
I like the Nathan Fillion idea; he's played an embittered soldier in Firefly, and has the charisma to carry off the poignancy required, whilst in a larger than life super-hero role. For the same reasons, I'd also recommend Owen Wilson... |
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Olly Richards Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 13:28
deedeetee, Fillion will be far too busy appearing in all the other films we've dream-cast him in. He can't do everything...Wait, what am I talking about? Fillion is all-powerful. |
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bobthegrinch Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 13:34
That wasn't me frenzied or worked up. If this were a conversation I wouldn't have been screaching, I guess you can't really express the tone accurately in text alone. But I'm not the type to get genuinely worked up over such trivial matters, I just enjoy discussing them with others. I did read the blog property. I just think on the whole there isn't a decent casting suggestion in this article and McConaughey should be dismissed out of hand. Rumoured to be considered or not. He isn't an actor any more, he's just a bloke that gets his shirt off and it's shown in cinemas. 6/10 is still far too generous. And Patrick Warburton is incredibly awesome, I really wish he was in more stuff, but you acknowledge as not a serious suggestion. Whoever plays Captain America might well have to play the leader of the Avengers. I can't envisage any of these guys (who are of an age where they could play the role) being able to convincingly order Downey Jr around. Tony Stark challanges Caps leadership in a sort of second in command way so Cap really has to be played by someone who can step up to the RD Jr performance in Iron Man.
The interesting thing about this article is that it's made some of the staff at Empire drop the professionalism and start acting like the rest of us with sardonic comments.
I meant no offence though, I just disagree. In the words of Nicholson in Mars Attacks 'Can't we all just get along?' |
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bobthegrinch Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 13:40
Also I apologise for my 'Has Chris Hewitt ever read anything with Captain America in it' comment. It was a pretty rubbish thing to say. We're clearly all just fans with our own opinions. |
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Chris Hewitt Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 14:00
Fair enough, Bob. I would call into question your use of the word 'professionalism' to describe Empire staff. We're never knowingly professional.
As for two more casting choices: Daniel Day-Lewis is so Method that he would travel back in time to the 1940s, dump himself in the sea, get frozen for decades and then have himself thawed out again... just so he would know how it feels. This might cause havoc with the shooting schedule.
As for Viggo Mortensen: he's got gammy teeth. Nope. |
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sowasred2012 Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 14:05
deedeetee - dude, I mentioned Fillion in the *second* post on this comments section!
Still, I've been racking my brains all day and I can't think of someone who would please everybody yet. Will Smith gets my vote of all those suggested by Chris (on account of me not being able to take McConaughey even a little seriously) - but... I can't wish hard enough that they'd invent some de-aging process, or have had the foresight to have frozen Dennis Quaid in a block of ice in the mid-90's, ready to be thawed out when Marvel got this film off the ground. |
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mebbetheywasinjuns Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 14:12
While I would generally support Nathan Fillion for any role, as he is the single most awesome human in existence, I honestly don't think he has the physical presence of a superhero. He's much more of a Harrison Ford than a Christopher Reeve; too everyman sarcastic to play this kind of role. How about Mark Wahlberg? I'm not sure if I can picture him blond, but I think we should probably let that go - the only reason we can't cast Will Smith, who probably is the best candidate in ever other way, is that the demands of the plot require a white man; I'm pretty sure there was no official segregation policy in WWII that prevented a brunette from reaching high Military rank. That being said, I'm not even sure if Wahlberg would suit the role; though he's definitely got chops, he's way way better at being a working-class nobody (or better still, a working class douchebag) than a hero. I'm not sure if this would come under the 'race' rules, but I'd definitely like to see The Rock give this a go - his race is non-specific enough to serve the needs of the story, and he's a vastly underrated actor. Convincing as a weedy grunt may admittedly be an issue, but they can just CGI that, I'm sure. CGI's great - it fixes everything, especially script problems. Anyway - I think I've convinced myself. The Rock for Cap. Done.
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mebbetheywasinjuns Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 14:16
You know, I've just re-read that, and I'm even more convinced. It's the Rock. You know that it is. You should all embrace it and be done with it. Blonde hair is girly, and such a rule could result in our getting Matthew McConaughey, which I think we can all agree would not be good for anyone's health. Plus, he's a hippie - surely someone who attended the Republican convention last year would be better (that disturbed me slightly, actually - I thought Dwayne had better taste; still, I'm sure his heart was in the right place). |
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norman365 Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 14:23
personally I always saw Brad Pitt in the role... definitely can't see Will Smith as capt. sorry empire but just can't see that working out (btw,correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Marvel change Nick Fury's colour in the comics first? doesn't matter, you can't beat the hasselhoff :-)
but as a proud Sheffielder I'm with sowasred2012, screw captain america; we need Captain Sheffield! |
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humanzee Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 14:28
Aaron Eckhart, I've been saying it for years. Even at 40 he's the best candidate by a country mile. |
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sowasred2012 Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 14:30
They changed Fury's ethnicity for the Ultimate line of comics - it's essentially another 'universe' within the Marvel universe where they can retool and just plain change anything they want about the various Marvel characters to make them seem more 'realistic' (read: nihilistic) and relevant.
I'm not the biggest fan of the Ultimate universe (save Ultimate Spiderman - that's gold). |
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norman365 Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 14:36
thanks for clearing that up.
just thought, sorry Chris but Will Smith wouldn't do it anyway- the reason he's made hancock is apparently because he was so sick of been offered every superhero part going he decided to make his own.
you know, Marvel could always go for Dolph Lundgren...:-) |
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Greg Andrew Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 14:36
I'm not really a big CA fan but i must admit i have enjoyed the back n forths with this one, and kudos on an excellent blog dear christopher.
But i do think McConaughey would be wrong because of that sweet sweet southern charm of his. I suggest marvel go even more out there and cast Kal Penn.
WHAT ABOUT STEPHEN BALDWIN!!!!!!!!
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mebbetheywasinjuns Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 14:37
Aaron Eckhart would be a great choice in almost every way, but could you really see him pulling on tights? Again, not in a sexual, what-does-he-get-up-to-at-the-weekend kind of a way. I agree that he's got the look and the chops, but I can't see him as an action hero. |
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Iws Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 14:42
How about Josh Brolin? There are some really good contenders but unfortunately age seems to be against pretty much all of them - Eckhart, Pitt and my suggestion. If this was an original character then yeah Will Smith would be ideal, but WW2 is vital to Captain America's origin and can't be retconned to Afghanistan, Vietnam or Korea, which would need to happen to have a black actor play the part. Character's origins are always being tweaked and changed but Cap's accepted back story of WW2 super soldier is pretty much cannon. |
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warpedai Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 14:44
I don't agree with Will Smith. Yeah he does represent modern America somewhat, but the fact is, I think he would look silly in a mask, what with his small pointed ears pertruding on the sides.
Seriously, try and imagine Will Smith in a Cap America outfit. Yes he has the body, but the face is just not right for me. He is not chisled enough and like I said he has small pointy ears! I think if you were to go for a black actor, someone like Common (Sir Ivy from Smoking Aces) would be more suitable.
Having said that, I feel the actor must be white, he must have the looks, he must be a fine physical specimen and he must be tall (or rather not too short). Otherwise you get something that has parallels akin to Vinnie Jones playing The Juggernaut in X-Men III. Juggernaut is apparently 6'10 Marvel... |
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organometallic Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 14:49
Some good ideas and conjecture about Captain America but how about pointing out that you might be spoiling the bit that happens after the end of Iron Man, I've not bloody seen it yet! |
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gambit21 Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 14:54
I could see Eckhart but after Two Face I think it'll be a no go. What about Adrian Pasdar; he is great in heroes, got a good jaw and deserves some more movie roles. I know he isnt blonde but that can be forgiven right? |
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waltham1979 Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 14:55
Bruce Campball !!!!!!!!!!!! why does no one comment ?? "gimme some sugar baby then he lobs his shield at some poor unsuspecting criminal !! its like poetry !! |
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mebbetheywasinjuns Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 14:59
organometallic - just look up 'Iron Man Nick Fury' on youtube; its sucky quality, but at least you won't be in the dark. It is a fair point about relocating the origins of the character - I think it would be a damn shame to lose the WWII thing, as that's going to be one of the most interesting aspects of the story. Ideally, the whole film would be set in the 40's, with Cap not waking up in Contemporary America 'til the end. Cue another badass Cameo from Nick Fury (I'm not calling him Sam Jackson anymore, he is now only Nick Fury). Seriously, though. The Rock. He's just black enough. And he's way tall. |
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Chris Hewitt Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 15:00
Organo... sorry. At least now you know there's something worth sitting through the (VERY, VERY LONG) credits for. But I'll get a spoiler warning put in there. |
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warpedai Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 15:04
don't agree with Will Smith. Yeah he does represent modern America somewhat, but the fact is, I think he would look silly in a mask, what with his small pointed ears pertruding on the sides.
Seriously, try and imagine Will Smith in a Cap America outfit. Yes he has the body, but the face is just not right for me. He is not chisled enough and like I said he has small pointy ears! I think if you were to go for a black actor, someone like Common (Sir Ivy from Smoking Aces) would be more suitable.
Having said that, I feel the actor must be white, he must have the looks, he must be a fine physical specimen and he must be tall (or rather not too short). Otherwise you get something that has parallels akin to Vinnie Jones playing The Juggernaut in X-Men III. Juggernaut is apparently 6'10 Marvel... |
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gambit21 Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 15:06
As another radical out there suggestion what about Matt Salinger who portrayed Cap in Cap's first outing? OK maybe not but I think a wee cameo would be in order |
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sowasred2012 Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 15:09
So, since I can't have Dennis Quaid, I was running with the idea of American Football players being pretty well suited to the physical presence required - came across this guy Zach Gilford from Friday Night Lights. He skews a little young at the minute, but the movie isn't for another 3 years - maybe he could pull it off? If he bulks up a little? |
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marsh2006 Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 15:13
After reading through all these comments i can honestly say i see arguments for and against Will Smith as Cap A, but i have to say i agree with the one about not changing the fundamentals.......i think Will Smith is a cracking actor, and he may very well be able to pull it off, however could you imagine Spiderman being black? Spidey is my fav marvel character and spidey isn't even a character that is meant to embody America, but if they had made the film with Peter Parker being black it just wouldn't be the same. i appreciate that in certain cases things have to be changed to keep in line with the times, this however is not one of them. |
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sowasred2012 Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 15:16
How bout Justin Hartley? The guy playing Green Arrow on Smallville? He's perhaps a bit young and pretty - but he's the right screen presence. He's like a blonde, un'tainted' Ben Affleck. With a slightly less huge chin. |
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Helen OHara Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 15:16
Mad Dog, Wolverine - like mounties and maple syrup - is Canadian. Put all three together, and you've got yourself a hell of a party. |
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jboyle79 Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 15:18
Just a few suggestions: If either could tone down the tongue-in-cheek nature of most performances, and hold back on the one liners - Ryan Reynolds or Sean William Scott? Reynolds has proven he can do straight action (Smokin' Aces) and can be buffed up for roles (Blade: Trinity) Scott has always had the all-American quarterback physique, but needs to prove his action chops....
Or, an even riskier proposal, what about Shia? C'mon people, picture him as a young GI in WW2, then put him through a training regimen, and voila - instant Cappy!!
I think the 'must be American' thing is nonsense - as long as the guy ain't french or British or something equally ridiculous (Irish Greek King anyone....yes, you Butler - Hang your head....) then it doesn't really matter... |
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Ricorodrigeuz Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 15:29
Were there a time travell machine I would think Harrison Ford or Dennis Quaid but there isn't so never mind. George Clooney would be good at it and it would give him a chance to wash off the mess of Batman. |
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aklyja Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 15:36
The suggestion of Helo got me thinking and it occured to me that Jamie Bamber aka Apollo from BSG would make the perfect Cap. Imagine my surprise when I IMBD'd him and found out that he's English! |
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criderick Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 15:48
How about Justin Hartley? I think he's perfect for the role. |
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Master of Zinj Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 16:20
I wouldn't be surprised if they went for someone like Josh Hartnett... I like the chin of Adrian Pasdar, though.
If they really wanted to go for acting chops though, how about Ben Kingsley? He can wear a wig. Or Jeff Goldblum, done up in CGI. True, it'd double the running time if they didn't edit out all the "ah"s, but still... |
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dragonINC Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 16:28
I have a few suggestions, some alright some brilliantly dastardly, HA,HA,HA!!!! Brendon Fraser could fit the bill if it was an origin story with the freezing an all (He has that 1940's look about him) and has an action pedigry with the mummy series. Ashton Kutcher - Don't laugh!!!! He is young enough and could do well. Josh Hartnet could be a dark horse as he has a good screen presence and could very well look the part. Vin Diesal would make a great super soldier and could provide a great physicality to the Cap'n. Luke Wilson is an all american boy and was actually quite good in his first major actioner : behind enemy lines!!! Chris Evans - not the ginger one - could also do a good job but his association with johnny storm would prob put him out of the running. If Kurt Russell was 25 years younger he would have been great. Jack Black - only joking but it would be f'n funny!!!!!! |
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KingBigkerb Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 16:36
Like so many others on this thread, I've been championing Aaron Eckhart as Cap for a long time. I don't think it matters that he's in the Dark Knight, in fact it would probably do wonders for his career to have him in both.
I have to totally disagree with the idea of Will Smith though. Yeah, he is actually a fine actor when he puts his mind to it but the whole essence of Cap is that he's a man out of time and a soldier. The whole point of the Truth mini-series where Isaiah Bradley was the first Cap and a black dude was that the military would have used African Americans as lab-rats to perfect the super-soldier serum, which they could then use on a white, all American hero. Unfortunately, the way the world was meant that because was meant as a symbol as well as a hero, people wouldn't have accepted a Black Captain America.
sure you could bring the story forward and have Steve Rogers as a soldier in a more recent war where racism wasn't such an issue but I can't think of a war where America was as unanimously behind their troops as they were in WW2. Its the perfect setting for the character to align his moral compass and get the values that he brought forward to modern times.
I've got no problem with a black captain america but if thats a change thats made at the expense of the story then I think its a huge error. Sure you can argue thats theres no reason to not have Cap be Black but at the same time, is there really any reason to change the character that drastically? |
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KingBigkerb Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 16:39
IF not Aaron Eckhart then I'd go to Tom Jane. Why? Because he's Tom Jane... |
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RaulZebra Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 16:39
Just sign up Brad Beyer - the guy that played Stanley in 'Jericho'
Have a glance around the internets at some shots of this guy - he is Steve Rogers. |
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richietreslong Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 16:41
If I had to pick a person to perfectly fit the suit... now tahts before thinking about acting and everything else i would have to say the... WWE star John Cena.
This is going to be a tricky choice and personally i dont think that any director or studio is going to be able to pull off the story simply because i do not think that there is the "right guy" to play Cap. America. Like brandon routh was perfect for superman, like christian bale was perfect for batman etc I cant see this being as simple as picking the right guy to wear the suit, he has to be the character and have the story and script to follow first.
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evans above Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 16:49
Will Smith should play him cos he's Will Smith and should play everything. Failing that Nathan Fillion. Just please for heaven's sake not Matthew McConaughey. |
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sowasred2012 Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 16:51
I second Brad Beyer - I wish I'd thought of it before, it's that good an idea. |
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Hughezy Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 16:59
erm, Matt Damon anyone? you know, the guy that's ALMOST as awesome as Bruce Springsteen? |
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skatebkp Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 17:01
so glad chris sparked this debate cause me and friends have argued over this one for weeks.
Will smith as cap is impossible, he's marvels superman and like superman's casting the actor has to look exactly like him. blonde blue eyes and white.
He has to have a big physical presence since the guy has no super powers expect being a human at its peak physical condition and if they made an avengers and you stood him next to a an iron man and a 7ft god of thunder he might look puny. plus the guy needs to look like a bad ass this guy fought a war where he killed alot of people ( so no mconaughey or brendon frasier!)
if the rock was white id pick him otherwise i have no idea ..chris evans sounds good.
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britesparc Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 17:01
I think Nathan Fillion would a pretty good choice; only thing is, is he imposing enough, physically? He cuts it fine as a brawling leading man, but I'm not 100% certain he's got that commanding Captain America presence. Still, I'm a huge fan of his, so I'd love it if he got the gig.
I was about to suggest Fillion's Firefly stablemate Adam Baldwin, but a quick IMDb has revealed he's about 46! Bloody hell, looks good for his age, don't he? |
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Joshi Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 17:21
How you didn't consider Bruce Campbell I'll never know. But come on, Patrick Warburton, "not a serious suggestion"?! The voice, the chiseled chin, the fact that it's turn an American icon into a joke... where's the downside? |
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cmalik Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 17:23
1. Cole Hauser (see "tears of the sun" US title) 2. Josh Lucas (see Posidon) 3. Matthew Mconaughey 4. George Eads (see CSI) 5. Neal McDonough (see Minority Report) |
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Rocket 3000 Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 17:26
I'm not entirely sold on Will Smith As Cap but he'd def. make a watchable movie, however I cant see Marvel going for it.
Brad Pitt 10 even 5 years ago would have been a great choice, if I could just get my flux compacitor working we may a movie.....
on a proper note tho I think Jason Lewis looks the part but can he act?????? |
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britesparc Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 17:27
Brad Beyer looks OK - not 100% convinced. But if he's got the acting chops and the charisma, he looks like he wouldn't be bad.
I've had another idea: what about Michael C Hall, TV's Dexter? As long as no one minded him moving from serial killer to Captain America, I think he'd be a pretty good choice...
Oh, and personally, I've discounted Bruce Campbell because, sadly, he's too old. Sniff... |
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Eagle2083 Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 17:30
I would absolutely love to see Pitt or Eckhart as Captain America. Matthew McConaughey for Captain America? Did we forget about Hawkeye? Matthew McConaughey is perfect for Hawkeye. Maybe Will Smith or Michael Clark Duncan for Luke Cage. |
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warpedai Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 17:38
Brad Beyer is ginger that is even worse than him being Black!! Only joking! |
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gambit21 Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 17:38
If Luke Cage is in it then The Rock is the only man for the job. |
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Bluehawk Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 17:41
Nathan Fillion. Nathan Fillion. Nathan Fillion. I'll just repeat my candidate from the newspost. He's the most interesting actor around for the part. You gotta love him, which is pretty much a demand for any actor playing Cap. Am. And he's blonde. Plus, he can add a little humour.
It's funny how most actors who come to mind are already a superhero in either Marvel or DC comics. Tomas Jane would indeed be perfect, but he's The Punisher. Ben Affleck has the face, but he's Dare Devil. Goldenboy Chris O'Donnell is Robin already. Heath Ledger would be cool, but he's dead and The Joker. The list goes on and on...if you which to be a little consistant, producers can't hire the following actors anymore: Chris Evans/Johnny Storm, Keanu Reeves/Constantine, Christian Bale/George Clooney/Mike Keaton/Val Kilmer/Batman, Topher Grace/Venom, Hugh Jackman/Wolverine, Ed Norton/Eric Bana/The Hulk, Brandon Routh/Superman, Cillian Murphy/Scarecrow, Tobey Maguire/Spider-man, Jim Carrey/Ridler, Nicolas Cage/Ghost Rider, Vinnie Jones/Juggernaut, Aaron Eckhart/TommyLee/Two Face, Samuel L. Jackson/Nick Fury, Colin Farell/Bullseye, Willem Dafoe/Green Goblin, Danny Devito/Penguin, Shawn Ashmore/Iceman, Ryan Reynolds/Hannibal King, Wes Bentley/Blackheart, Michael Clarke Duncan/Kingpin, Ben Foster/Angel, Arnold Schwarzenegger/Mr. Freeze, Robert Downey Jr/Iron Man, James Franco/Goblin II, Nick Nolte/Absorbing Man, Patrick Stewart/Prof. Xavier, Jon Favreau/Happy Hoogan, James Marsden/Cyclops, Tim Roth/Abomination, Dominic Purcell/Dracula, Ioan Gruffud/Mr. Fantastic, Alan Cumming/Nightcrawler, Jeff Bridges/Iron Monger, Liam Neeson/Ra's Al Ghul, Michael Chiklis/The Thing, Terrance Howard/War Machine, Ian McKellen/Magneto, Julian McMahon/Dr. Doom, Aaron Stanfrod/Pyro, Kevin Spacey/Lex Luthor, Alfred Molina/Doc. Octopus, Kelsey Grammer/Beast, Wesley Snipes/Blade, Thomas Haden Church/Sandman, Eric Dane/Multiple Man, Laurence Fishburne/Silver Surfer, Hugo Weaving/V...etc: We don't have enough actors |
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warpedai Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 17:46
Never mind Captain America, I'm still perplexed by Vinnie Jones playing the Juggernaut. Don't get me wrong, I love Vinnie, but someone like wrestler Big Show should have played Juggernaut and someone younger should have played Magneto even though McKellen is a legend. The ideal would be a young Rutger Hauer; he has Magneto written all over him. |
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sowasred2012 Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 17:47
Um... How've Michae Clarke Duncan, Alfred Molina and Michael Chiklis gotten into a list of potential Caps? |
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reservoirdoll1987 Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 17:48
I'm liking the Adrian Pasdar idea. And indeed Will Smith. If anything going against the grain is precisely what might make it sell better in worldwide markets. Chris makes a fair point about Barack Obama being the next President, and a black Captain America would distance it from the Bush administration. This of course is entirely dependent on when they want to set it and how bothered they are about historical accuracy.
George Clooney ten years ago, yes. George Clooney at 50? No. He'd be too old by the third one. And he's said he doesn't want to do any more acting for a while.
This is perhaps a bit out there, but if you dyed Steve Carrell's hair could he get away with it? As a serious actor he's brilliant, as Little Miss Sunshine proved. Or - as a wild, throw-this-in-for-the-hell-of-it, my-brain's-clearly-been-addled-by-the-heat option - Jake Gyllenhaal? He was going to replace Tobey Maguire as Spider-Man for the second film (or was it the third? I forget) when Maguire threw his back out, and has already played an army grunt. The only issue there is he's the wrong side of 30.
And I know Chris said no non-Americans, but I think Eric Bana could pull it off. He's got the right look of slightly dishevelled but can also pull off the hero thing. After a good haircut mind.
Christian Bale? Or typecasting after Batman?
Shame Arnie's gone all old and political on us. He'd be acceptable.
But ultimately I think they will end up going for an unknown. If only because this thread has revealed the shocking lack of half-decent blond actors in Hollywood. |
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Adrian Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 17:59
I actually thought of Dexter too. even though i've never watched it. And I think Fillion could do it.. i mean... he'd have time to bulk up for it wouldn't he? i mean look at Hugh Jackman as Wolverine or Tobey MacGuire as Spidey or Christian Bale as Batman? They all had to bulk up a lot for those parts (especially Bale who'd just lost a load of weight for The Machinist), and all of them pulled it off admirably. and on the X-Men theme (sort of), what about James "Cyclops" Marsden? or is he Canadian?
Though if all else fails, there's always Chuck Norris. If he wasn't too old and Dutch, I'd say Dolph Lundgren IS Cap' America actually. |
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Adrian Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 18:02
oh, and Blue hawk... Fillion HAS played a DC hero. just not physically. He voiced Vigilante in Justice League unlimeted. |
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Chris Hewitt Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 18:22
Nathan Fillion is NOT blond-haired. Clearly not blond-haired! The man is many things, but a blondie he is not! Madness! Lies and madness!
Some decent suggestions here. I haven't seen Jericho, so I can't comment on that Beyer bloke. I did consider Michael C. Hall - and having seen him with his shirt off (steady now) in a still from GAME, I can confirm that he's ripped like the Hulk's pants. But there's something slightly off-putting and serial killy about him, so no.
Keep searching, people! I know the perfect Cap is out there! We need someone to fight the Nazis, yet who actually perfectly resembles Hitler's Aryan ideal! Get to it! |
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Paxton Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 18:29
I haven't read the entire thread, so I risk retreading worn ground here...
Will Smith may be right on many levels, especially in the context of modern America, but the actor himself brings too much baggage. Smith is a global star in his own right, and his shadow might just be too much to escape;
A dastardly Nazi tank rattles along a span, towards a broken down schoolbus packed with lunchbox-carrying Yankee-doodle kids. From atop his perch on the highest point of the bridge, Captain America spies the threat and rises to his full height. He resets his fingers' grip on the steel handle of the starred roundel, and as he leaps out into nothingness, utters to himself a quiet:
"AW, HELL NAW!!!"
Doesn't quite work, does it?
Captain America has cookie-cutter morals, unflinching resolve and unquestioning loyalty. If anything, he's even more cornbread than that other white farmboy, Superman. These qualities add up to him being something of an enigma.
Therefore, I think you would have to go with someone whose name doesn't carry as much weight as Will Smith's, someone like a Brendan Fraser (he can clearly act, plus he buffs up well), or at a real push, James Marsden (Good chin, good actor, not that many people will remember/recognise him as Cyclops, and he doesn't seem to mind acting in more than one superhero franchise).
If we're going to TV land, I think Brian Austin Green should be given a test. Yes, the same whiney, should-have-been-in-East 17 dude from Beverly Hills 90210. He's actually pretty good in the Sarah Connor Chronicles, and he's almost the perfect age and look in terms of grunt Vs. morale-lifting speeches. |
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Adrian Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 18:31
Yuo already said you're flexible on the blonde thing anyways. And Josh Duhamel and Will Smith aren't blonde either. (not that seeing Will Smith with Blonde hair wouldn't be a sight to behold) Fillion could pull it off though (the blonde thing or Cap. A), and so could Marsden - if less so the blonde hair thing (and I checked. He is American).
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Adrian Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 18:36
also... a bit of a different one... Adrian Pasdar. Ok, he's about as Blonde as Will Smith, but he seems pretty well built and he play a politician who can fly, so he can clearly do holier-than-thou speeches and action. got about as square-a-jaw as you could hope to find too.
Like the Brendan Frasier Idea though. Very likeable guy too, which'd be a bonus. |
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King Solomons Frog Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 18:56
Just a couple of points. The First Avenger is only a working title at this stage, and the Isiah Bradley black Captain America story (Truth) was not an alternative universe story. The whole idea came from what happened to the Tuskagee Airmen, and the super soldier serum was tested on a black soldier because the top brass didn't want to kill a white boy. In fact, his descendent is currently part of the Young Avengers. When I first saw Aaron Eckhart years ago, I thought he'd be the perfect Cap. Unfortunately, he's 10 years too old. |
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Timon Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 18:59
Cmalik, Neal McDonough is an inspired idea.
He's great in everything I've seen him in - Minority Report, Boomtown, Star Trek: First Contact and Band Of Brothers as Buck Compton. |
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esteeg113 Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 19:02
Ryan Phillipe is my choice for Captain America, he can be the soldier, the all american, and the leader, Ryan Phillipe = Steve Rogers |
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Paxton Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 19:09
FAO: CMalik and Timon
Wow.
You`re right. Neal McDonough is the perfect choice. |
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gambit21 Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 19:27
Having thought about it all day now i think Ryan Phillipe Is not a bad shout but i dont think he's big enough physically. Neal McDonough also sparkles as a good shout but I'm going to keep with Adrian Pasdar as he was my first thought, gotta stick by him. |
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martinblank Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 19:56
You are all fools. The ideal actor for the role of Captain America is Jon Hamm, star of tv's Mad Men. I rest my case. |
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LeChuck Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 20:18
Two words: Brian Blessed.
Come on, you can all see it staring you in the face. |
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Chris Hewitt Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 20:32
Yes, it's gotta be Brian Blessed. I quite like the idea of Ryan Phillippe. He'd have to bulk up, though. As for Neil McDonough, good actor but he's got mad scary psycho eyes. Captain America does not have mad scary psycho eyes. |
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ricman3 Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 20:40
Josh Brolin! |
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Seven_Hundred Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 20:49
Not sure of his name - Chris Klein maybe? But that kid from American Pie, that acted quiet well through Election and has disappeared since the Rollerball remake.
I can see him with a big 'A' stamped on his fore'ed.
However, this is one Marvel film that i'm totally unexcited by (and i was looking forward to Ghost Rider). I'm not really that familiar with the character, i've read 'Ultimates' vol1, and although he's not as clean cut as i thought he was, he's still the least interesting of the Avengers.
And has for the Avengers film itself, i'll be amazed if it ever gets made. |
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Ironside Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 20:50
Dude, Ryan Gosling!!!
"It wasn't over for me, IT STILL ISN'T!!!"
All he has to do is bulk up a bit. |
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Ironside Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 20:55
Wait hold on, how could I leave out N.P.H.? Neil Patrick Harris as Captain America, it would be Leg-end- as I hope you're not lactose intolerant, cause the next word is Dairy!!! |
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KingBigkerb Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 20:56
ricman3
I find the idea of Josh Brolin playing both George W Bush and Captain America amusing and intriguing. Maybe they could merge the two films and have Dubya as the Sentinel of Liberty, donning the red, white and blue to fight injustice and the enemies of freedom! |
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andythornton Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 20:59
Gotta go with Jensen Ackles - he's got the whole brooding thing down to a tee. Providing he makes the step up into films in the next year or so he could be a contender...
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mserpico88 Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 23:27
lol.. PAUL WALKER PAUL WALKER PAUL WALKER PAUL WALKER PAUL WALKER PAUL WALKER PAUL WALKER PAUL WALKER |
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Bluehawk Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 23:48
@Adrian: I counted out voice-work (except with Silver Surfer, but that's a very specific voice. Like James Earl Jones with Darth Vader ye know). And Dolph Lundgren is not Dutch. I know this because I'm Dutch and Lundgren is a Scandinavian name (Swedish to be precise...)
@Chris: Yeah yeah, light brown, dark blond. All the same :P.
@rest: I really like the Brendan Fraser idea. Only I don't think the guy can last 5 minutes without smiling. |
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Bluehawk Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 23:49
@mserpico: hahaha, just wanted to add Paul Walker too. |
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TEFFH Posted on Wednesday May 7, 2008, 23:59
Well, my to pips for the role would have to go for a chin-off between Bruce Campbell (longest chin in tinseltown) and Tahmoh Penikett (of BSG with the widest chin known to man).
In truth, as much as I would love to see either Bruce Campbell of Nathan Fillion in the part, I think Bruce is approaching the "view to a kill syndrome" and I cannot imagine Nathan (great as he is) being able to bulk up enough. Also, Big Willie, good idea, but I think Hancock puts him out of the running.
So, I think breaking the got to be American rule (I am assuming you mean, from the United States of, rather than merely the continent of, so that pendants like myself cannot sidestep the rule) and have to go for Tahmoh (and before anyone mentions, also the blonde rule). The role of Helo has shown that he can be basic grunt (early BSG) to commanding officer (season 3 onwards) and can bulk up and be a bad-ass fighter, as well as showing a strong sense of moral principles. And, as mentioned above, he has a chin so wide that its been used for emergency landing strips for Vipers and Raptors (sorry for slipping into the TV geek thread).
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jbar7406 Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 00:58
Nathan Fillion has to be on the shortlist - though admittedly he is more in the Indiana Jones hero type mold.
And Chris Evans - Danny Boyle's Sunshine was proved his ability for the hero role. Marvel may be unlikely to go with the existing Johnny Storm though. |
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Lance Uppercut Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 01:25
Another vote for Josh Brolin, best choice by far, although Aaron Eckhart would be good too. Dennis Quaid or Kurt Russell would have been perfect a few years ago. |
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potemkin1925 Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 01:32
yes, andythornton, Jensen Ackles for definite
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MovieMogul Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 02:02
Hewitt, my man, you hit the nail on the head with Eckhart. When I next read a Cap comic (NOT with Bucky), I'll have to try and put his face in there...when maskless, of course. |
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rob_devitt Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 05:46
I like the commanding officer from Band of Brothers. I know he's ginger but he's got the right stuff. |
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rob_devitt Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 05:51
I got it! the bad guy from the hulk, and sweet home alabama. Blond, blue eyed, in shape. Thats it post closed, we have a winner!!! |
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rob_devitt Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 05:54
Actually now that i've gotten over sorting the casting does anyone else think that Captain America is the least relevent superhero today and would actually bomb anywhere outside the states (where obviously it would be a compulsory view with a side of freedon fries) and would be tired and cliche ridden? |
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jboyle79 Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 08:02
Rob_devitt - I kinda think thats the point - as has already been mentioned, Ol' cappy aint the most PC of superheroes at the mo. But then, he has always had a streak of jingoism about him. C'mon, the guy parades around pretty much WEARING the stars and stripes, if any scriptwriter or director worth their salt gets their hands on this movie, there will be a lot of politic querying going on: "Is it right to experiment on soldiers?" "How far does one go to serve one's country?" "Where does obedience end and stupidity begin?" - I think they are gonna quickly move cap away from blindly obedient super-soldier and go towards people's champion. There is no way in todays climate they can get away with a Captain America that does the bidding of a government half the world despises! He is iconic, but after he split from the government, he became a champion of the american underdog, the average joe, fihting against a corrupt and unfair system. And we all know how much dodgeball rocked.... |
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rob_devitt Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 08:43
Fair point......Dodgeball did rock. |
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TheHunkIsSprunk Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 08:48
As a comic book fan, I would say that Daniel Craig would be the perfect Captain America..Despite the fact he is a Brit, I think he is a well-built bloke who could pull of the role..Not to mention his versatility which help to reboost the Bond franchise... |
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guybrush Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 09:39
Damien Lewis. Watch him as Dick Winter in Band of Brothers, give him a huge sheild made of adamantium and a blonde buzz cut and you've got your Cap. |
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Helen OHara Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 10:26
Rob Devitt, you're thinking of Josh Lucas, who's discussed in Chris' blog. |
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Chris Hewitt Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 10:59
And dismissed contemptuously in Chris' blog... begone, Josh Lucas! |
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Acho Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 11:13
I've read the whole blog and all comments through (well done all, by the way!) hoping that by the end I'd have thought of the ONE actor that somehow had been overlooked, and everyone would be like "WOW!! How on earth did we not think of him?!" But alas. Of all the suggestions so far, I like Eckhart the most, in terms of who I think is the best fit. He might be pushing it, age-wise, though, in which case I think Ryan Phillippe is the next best match. Got the height, the hair, the acting chops - he just needs to bulk up a bit and stop looking so damn mopey and angst-ridden! My sneaky favourite, though, is Adrian Pasdar. Aside from the hair, I think he's damn near perfect. I think his hair is too dark a brown, though, for a dye job to be convincing. Pity. If we really want to mix things up though, forget casting Captain America as black - let's have a female Captain! Maybe Gwynnie can get promoted from being Tony Stark's PA! |
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criderick Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 11:14
God! When I come to think of it, only younger Clint Eastwood and Kirk Douglas come to my mind. Aaron would also be great. But If he wasn't up for it, I would suggest Justin Hartley who was a great Green Arrow in Smallville.
I was thinking too of the guy who plays 'Dexter', but he's quite scary... Then, there is the one who appeard in 'Lost' and now makes commercials.. Put he smiles too much.
Therefore, having noticed there aren't enough blond American characters, I have two suggestions: 1. The story could be set in a distant anime-plot-like future, where there are black albinos. Then we would find an American blond, blue-eyed Will Smith Cap.
2. or forget about America. Let's look for Captain Europe! |
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criderick Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 11:21
I forgot to say how much I hat the 'A' on the forehead. It's a terrible design of a costume. No matter how much 'Rambo' the chosen blondy might be, the poor one would look like a... dancing queen in that suit, if they don't do something to prevent it.
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criderick Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 11:40
Yeah, well... I love the idea of superheroes fighting in the present time. That's one of the main reasons why I love Batman Begins more than any other superhero movies. It's not that Cap. Am. wouldn't be wellcome or would be thouth of irrelevant nowadays, it's just that I imagine being him and...Come on! I would never, ever, wear that costume!!! And I would fight in Africa or in China! |
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bronco3114 Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 11:52
Casting Will Smith will change the core of the caracter as a black man is unrealistic in the context of Cap's traditional origin (which unlike daredevils Kingpin and *SPOILER Ironmans Nick Fury* are set in the present). I doubt the script will differ greatly from the traditional origin expecially as they have the luxury of pretty much waking up whenever they want (obviously the present). Marvel has a responsibitlity to the Cap's main fan base and they're unlikley to stand for such a drastic re-invention of the charcter and Marvel wouldn't risk such a potential disaster. Also there seems an unspoken rule that you can't play more than one significant comic book character, seemingly for the presumed genre type casting so this would seemingly rule out Aaron Eckhart. It would seem to be between Pitt, McConaughey and a possible up-and-comer/TV star. I wasn't really prepared to entertain anyone other than Pitt as the role was seemingly made for him but if it's a definate 3 picture deal the age factor can't be ignored so McConaughey (who I rate highly as a leading man while being disapointed with his career direction) could do something great with it as he does have the ability. |
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jimoakley666 Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 12:04
I don't know. I've previously thought Aaron Eckhart but I do think an unknown would be better. If Daniel Craig wasn't Bond I would've suggested him.
Personally I think Emile Hirsch should play Bucky Barnes though! |
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Spunky Backpack Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 12:06
Ok...Geek alert...Nick Fury didn't change his race on the big screen. The reason we all had massive boners for that few seconds of screen time is that Ultimate Nick Fury was originally based on Samuel L Jackson who gave his approval for his likeness to be used...Geek attack over...I'm not adverse to the idea of a Black Captain America, however I must admit that having just been through the Marvel Civil War and Death (as if he'll stay dead) of Steve Rogers I would love to see the guy on the screen as he appears in the comics...Hopefully they weill go for the Ultimates version of both Cap and Thor in their respective films as the costumes are a little more 'grounded' in reality, for want of a better word....'This 'A' doesn't stand for France!!!' |
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jimoakley666 Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 12:09
Oh, if Kevin McKidd isn't played Thor as rumoured, he may be half decent. Maybe. Damn. This is a difficult character to cast. Who'd a thunk it? |
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criderick Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 12:18
I disagree with bronco3114. I would not choose Brad Pitt. He's too famous and I don't see him playing the Cap since his work in Troy. I'd rather choose the guy in Dexter series.
Hey, Spunky, the 'A' should be placed somewhere else. That's all. But I wish I could see a Superhero in Europe on the screen, a new one that had never appeared on comics, made for this era. |
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Spunky Backpack Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 12:24
Hey I'm from Europe and I'd be all for an Excaliber film with our very own Captain Britain. Juggernaut and Nightcrawler have already been established in films so it's not that big a leap of imagination (Not that I'd want to see Vinnynaut again anytime soon)...The 'France' line is from The Ultimates and is really there for those who have read the book...The writers caught an aful lot of flak from the French for that line but argued that Cap in the 40's would have been that kind of guy... |
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gambit21 Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 12:31
sowasred2012, i agree with the beyer comments he does look like Cap from the comics, dont know about his acting skills though as I havent seen him in anything. However I must once again toute Adrian Pasdar... come on there must be more support for him out there...if you can get him then what about James Woods...ohh a piece of candy |
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Ann100026 Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 12:40
By Jesus I think I've got it….what about John Barrowman (Torchwood) he's he's got the super patriotism thing oozing through his persona, (I swear everytime I see I half expect him to burst into a verse of "Oh, say, can you see…".) Strong chin check, full head of hair (I know, I know its dark but we can work with it) check plus being as captain Jack he is halfway there and he looks manly enough to carry off the spanadex….i do worry he does have a tendency to smile…..a lot!! Failing that I like the other mentions Will Smith (he is all american) Green Arrow dude from Smallville (good choice but I wonder is he too pretty??) and I do like Jason Lewis he's got the swoon factor…I think it might pull in the lady crowds him being smoking hot an all plus a great actor! |
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criderick Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 12:48
I know, I know, Spunky (now that you just told me). But Europe is bigger than beautiful France and great Great Britain. I'm from Spain! And, apart from Mortadelo, Filemón Superlopez and Capitán Trueno, we don't have many other superheroes, not one that may represent european culture... :-(
But I would be afraid if the film was done by Americans. I don't like generalizing but... God, when I remember films like Mission Impossible two... I feel like crying. They said on that film that Spaniards burn saints sculptures!!!!!!!!! Where they drunk ? where did they got the information?? In Easter people dresed in dark colours take the saints out in an act of procession for the death of Christ. And in Valencia there is a celebretion of Fallas which is a fire pagan festival in which people participate in a contest creating big sarcastic sculptures that critize what has happened along the year and they burn them so as to hope the world to be better in the future.
Well, sorry for the change of subject. |
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Lupin 3 Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 12:54
I know its not canon but I think that it should be Will Smith. There was a great deal of racial segregation in the ranks in WW2 but I still don't think it is too unlikely that the super soldier serum was tested on more than one subject. (They were still trying the effects of the serum when Wolverine was born, the x in weapon x is the roman numeral which signifies the 10th set of serum tests) |
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Kez Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 13:03
I will hold my hands up and admit that I know very very little about Captain America (is he something to do with Wonder Woman?).
Chris, I can understand your thoughts about having an American actor play the American superhero, but I think this rule could be broken, because I could see gerard Butler playing Cap:
- I know he has that strong Scottish accent, but with a voice coach, Im sure he could have a Southern Drawl and say "Y'all" a lot if needs be. - We know that he can bulk up, and as someone suggested, there is technology to show him as being weedy a la Spidey. - Whilst he isnt as method as Darren Day-Lewis, he obviously is dedicated to getting into character (to undertake the Spartan training regime I think dedicated is probably an understatement!) |
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gambit21 Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 13:06
eh no wonder woman = DC. Cap Am- Marvel. Big difference |
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Kez Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 13:12
Ahh right. Thanks. I really dont know what made me think there was some sort of link between the two!!! |
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criderick Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 13:22
Very fun.. WW and CA. What a couple! Ha, ha, ha. I wonder how the pattern of their sheets would be ...? |
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criderick Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 13:35
Yeah.. He could be the guy...! I looked for him in google images but those pictures wouldn't say much. But this one is different. I think it's him! |
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MarkSands1 Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 14:09
Y'know Edgar Wright is supposed to be bringing the funny to Ant-man? And there were those rumours about Seth Rogen and Green Lantern... Well, maybe Cap needs to be a funny movie. I know, I know, sacrilege, but bear with me. Funny, blond, can do sorta scrawny, but would maybe need some help from CG for the rest... It's Simon Pegg! Give the man the job! |
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shazam Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 14:13
Eric Johnson - wasn't a huge fan of his in Smallville when he played Lana's beau, but I became a huge fan of his in the latest Flash Gordon series. After having watched the initial 13 episodes, he's really grown on me and I think he ticks all the right boxes. Watching Cap on screen though will be a dream come true for me anyway as he's always been my favourite comic book character after Supes. |
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Doktor Animal Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 14:19
Nathan Fillion. Hmm... While in the Wheedonverse, why not also consider Marc Blucas? He's the right age and build, blonde-haired and blue-eyed and has played the soldier type before and not just in Buffy; he also portrayed a soldier in an episode of House. I know he's not exactly A-list but he does tick most of the required boxes and I think he could well portray cappy's bewilderment at being awoken in an age not his own. Oh boy, I'm gonna get some stick for this... |
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gambit21 Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 14:20
Who do you think should play the Red Skull? I think Viggo Mortenson could be good- Can do eastern european and has suitably skull-like cheek bones, he can handle the action and is a fine actor. Another thought if Neal McDonough could do an eastern accent then his scary psycho eyes could come in handy. |
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Big Red Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 14:25
Although I'd prefer to see Jason Lewis as He-man, I think he'd be perfect for Captain America also. I really like the Will Smith idea but will americans and comic fans go for it? |
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sowasred2012 Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 15:12
gambit21 - trust me, Brad Beyer is good at the old acting gig (although this is all based off what I've seen of him in Jericho). What I like about him for Cap is that he's got this innocent charm thing going on, yet it's pretty obvious that if you pissed him off he'd go through you like a tank. |
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skatebkp Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 17:22
John Barrowman! I dont remember cap being so camp.
guybrush absolutely right Damien Lewis is basically captain america without the costume in band of brothers.
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Chrisseh Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 17:45
ARNIE FOR CAPTAIN AMERICA! lollllll |
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ambieson Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 18:26
Thomas Jane is always who I picture Captain America as in my mind but I agree his work on the Punisher may rule him out (mind you Jon Favreau has played both Foggy Nelson and Happy Hogan). Will Smith is a nice idea, but honestly, who would believe America would allow a black man to lead the troops in that era? I would love the idea of Brad Pitt as Cap but to be honest I'm not sure how belivable he would be as a leader of men (I'd be happy to be proved wrong). Arron Eckheat then would be the best choice. He can look tough and in my mind I can see him on the battlefields charging into action. |
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ambieson Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 18:56
Viggo Mortensen for the Red skull by the way. My campain starts here! |
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Hottest J call me H Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 19:01
LEO DICAPRIO for some odd reason |
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gambit21 Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 19:03
ambieson i'm with you. Viggo for Red Skull as I said before and will keep on saying until he is cast |
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KingBigkerb Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 19:04
Igoing back to the age issue, regardless of how old he is supposed to be in the comics, I think someone of Eckhart or Jane's age would probably be about right. If you went much younger it would be harder to see him as someone that the Avengers would fall in line behind.
I'm now completely unconvinced of Jason Lewis after seeing those bbc fashion thing pictures, I think he strays too far from superhero and more towards serial killer with a collection of china dolls but maybe the photographer caught him offguard. Good lord, there's evil in those eyes...
The thought of John Barrowman as Cap is gives me the willies. Watching him on screen is like watching the deli counter at Tesco, there's that much ham on display...
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Chris Hewitt Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 19:24
KingBig, you see evil in Jason Lewis' eyes. I see steely heroism. He's pretty good in the most recent episode of House, actually.
John Barrowman is the most terrifying choice yet. He's like an evil ventriloquist's puppet - like the ones from Dead Of Night or Magic. Always smiling benevolently, but there's something about him...
Marc Blucas? Interesting call... interesting call indeed. And one that puts me in mind of another staple from the Buffyverse... Is Boreanaz too chunky to play the part? He's certainly tall and imposing, although his voice isn't the commanding, deep voice that I imagine Cap possessing.
But I'm still not sure that we've hit upon the definitive choice. Apart from Aaron Eckhart, Will Smith and Jason Lewis. Ahem. But congratulations, all, on contributing to the fastest-growing blog thread in the short history of Empire blogs! |
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Rich Deckard Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 21:17
Sorry to ruin the fun but there is a lot of internet chatter suggesting Captain America is being remodelled as a comedy action movie rather than a nice dark movie. As such no self respecting big name actor like Smith, Pitt or Tango Man would sign up.
Hopefully the rumours are sh it and they'll actually make a good movie with an American icon fighting the villains while also fighting to define what 'American' means in the modern world. Now there is a meaty question, what are modern American values, any takers? I'm off to watch Iron Man again. |
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skatebkp Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 21:42
I'm meant to be studying but these suggestion are so damn funny
After seeing one picture of jason lewis I realise hes' the guy walking around half naked in the aero chocolate ad ..... come on people think this through!
you take your girlfirend to the cinema only after you've bored her to death how much captain america rocks for her to see him and say,
"oh its that fit bloke from the ad"
nearly as bad a choice as captain jack
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Seven_Hundred Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 22:04
Still - Chris Klein Chris Klein Chris Klein - hes probably not as young as the characters he plays, and could 'stubble-up' abit to add a few years when he's been defrosted.
Failling that - I can picture the Aero guy slinging a big sheild (which I still think is a sucky weapon) I'd much rather have repulsor rays... |
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mokeydude Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 22:09
Who will the Cap fight? I have trouble imagining a man with a bald red head on the big screen. But that's just me. I'm sure they will go for a solid choice for Steve Rogers himself though... |
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ambieson Posted on Thursday May 8, 2008, 22:09
Chris Klein? "Dude, I'm like, Captain America" might as well get Matt Salinger back for another try. |
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gambit21 Posted on Friday May 9, 2008, 02:43
Just a thought why are we only thinking about Will Smith when it comes to black actors? I Think Jamie Fox could portray Cap just as well as Big Willie or what about Denzel? |
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bigk910 Posted on Friday May 9, 2008, 05:45
What about Daniel Craig? 007 anyone? he's blonde and have some toughness just like CAP. All he needs is to get big, work out alot and there u are Captian American! |
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Ann100026 Posted on Friday May 9, 2008, 09:29
Marc Blucas has the charisma of a knat, he's so bland and i didnt like him in Buffy, not what we want the Captain to be, i definately wouldnt be following him anywhere! I think once John Barrowman tones down the smiling and general bounciness like Chris says, there's something about him..........hmm one to consider people!! I did consider David Boreanz and he could be good, though i wonder is he tall and imposing enough he's cirtainly got the ruggedness down! Now i know he's not american (but he is blonde) but what about Rupert Penry Jones ie Adam in Spooks, or is he too brooding? Failing all that i still like Jason Lewis, he could carry it off. |
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Helen OHara Posted on Friday May 9, 2008, 09:42
Gambit, Denzel could do it (or could've a few years back). Not sure Jamie Foxx has the same character. Will Smith, for me, would make a great Cap because his character seems kinda all-American (knows the value of hard work, fundamentally decent, motivated, successful) whereas Jamie foxx, while no doubt all those things, has an edgier screen presence.
I'm currently leaning towards Jason Lewis, and not just in a my-he-pretty sort of way. |
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sowasred2012 Posted on Friday May 9, 2008, 10:22
This is my 'Brad Beyer for Cap!' shout out for the day. Hopefully one of these'll stick. |
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Ann100026 Posted on Friday May 9, 2008, 10:32
Considering we're the ones who will watch this movie, shouldnt we the fans have the fiinal say on who should play this inconic figure (ok a little voice in my head say 'its a comic people lets not get carried away' but i wilfully ignore it!!!). It could be like Xfactor, with movie stars and all the above mentioned names have to audition publically to be in with a shot ha ha. I can see it now the search for cap'n America begins....... If thats too humiliating just a simple vote |
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Ivan_Drago Posted on Friday May 9, 2008, 11:25
In all seriousness, I think Sean William Scott. Get him to add a few punds of muscle here and there, cut the comedy and he'd be perfect. |
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Karl Crutchley Posted on Friday May 9, 2008, 11:32
Erm, Captain America wasn't "The First Avenger". The original team/founding members were Thor, Ant-Man, Iron Man, Wasp & the Hulk. Captain America only joined when Hulk left. Looks like the studios will need to rethink that title. |
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InvisibleDuncan Posted on Friday May 9, 2008, 11:48
I was a little surprised to read the comments likening Captain America being played by a non-American to James Bond being played by a non-Englishman. Bond isn't English - he's half Scottish, half Swiss.
I think whoever it was that called for Jensen Ackles from Supernatural hit the nail on the head. He'd be excellent. |
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Chris Hewitt Posted on Friday May 9, 2008, 12:14
Karl, Captain America is more readily identified with The Avengers than any other character in the Marvel Universe. I think the title is indicating that - even though The Avengers don't exist when he's created - he is still, in thought and deed, in everything he stands for, the First Avenger. But I would rethink the title because it's bloody awful. Just call it Captain America and be done with it. |
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mathewlea Posted on Friday May 9, 2008, 12:48
What about Josh Brolin? We know he can act, and he's pretty ripped already. Plus he'd look alright with blond hair and he's about the right age. He would be near the top of my choices anyway. |
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sowasred2012 Posted on Friday May 9, 2008, 12:57
I saw this Robot Chicken sketch called 'The Asshole Law' where people point out things like 'nobody ever actually said the line "beam me up, Scotty" in Star Trek' and 'Captain America wasn't actually the first Avenger' and as soon as they do all these alarms go off, cops come out of nowhere, beat the shit out of them and say 'It's the LAW, asshole!'.
It's pretty funny. |
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Bluehawk Posted on Friday May 9, 2008, 13:39
@InvisibleDuncan: for 90% of the world: scottish, n-irish, welsh, english, brittish is all the same. As long a Bond is from that silly place between Iceland and France, we'll all think he's English. Same with Canadians. They are just nice Americans. And Australians are just former criminal Brits with an accent ;-) |
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b Posted on Friday May 9, 2008, 14:31
jake gyllenhall....yeah sure, why not. jake gyllenhall - when you're not good enough to play spider-man. |
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everton Posted on Friday May 9, 2008, 15:17
From Captain Jack to Captain America.
JOHN BARROWMAN
die his hair blonde and he's perfect, and he's kind of American as he lived there as a kid. Of course the press conferences would be intersting, and I guess the bible belt guys wouldn't go to a movie with an openly gay lead actor? |
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VincentHanna Posted on Friday May 9, 2008, 15:20
I'll throw in a couple of stalwarts of US TV who I think could do the job (but they would need blondifying....)
Kyle Chandler (football coach on Friday Night Lights)
James Denton (Desperate Housewives) |
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Kev@CTU Posted on Friday May 9, 2008, 15:22
Josh Hartnett? Why did I think Josh Hartnett as soon as the words "Potential Captain America" came up? |
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murgod Posted on Friday May 9, 2008, 15:31
Strangely enough, before even being aware of this discussion, I saw Jason Lewis playing a sick soap-opera actor on Monday night's episode of "House." The second he appeared on the screen, I said to my wife, "That guy is Captain America." I even repeated it enough times to annoy her...I think the guy just has the right look for it and unlike Matthew McConaughey, doesn't really have any "baggage" you'd have to get by to accept him as "Cap."...definitely my pick...
David M. |
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Qexit Posted on Friday May 9, 2008, 15:39
A long time ago, I used to collect Marvel comics including Captain America. For several years the title became 'Captain America and the Falcon' when he teamed up with a black super-hero with a bird of prey as a side-kick. **SPOILER** The Falcon was eventually revealed to be a former criminal who had been converted into a hero by Caps nemesis the Red Skull while he had control of the 'Cosmic Cube'. It was supposedly a long term plan that would allow the Skull to discredit/demoralise Cap when the truth came out. I forget the exact details, it was around 20 years ago that I read the comics **SPOILER OVER**
The point of this being that it would hamper any future potential storylines if a black actor were to be picked to play Captain America. The Falcon could never work as a white actor/character and the interaction between the two would not work. Just a thought :-) |
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hesterloves Posted on Friday May 9, 2008, 17:05
jason lewis...woopwoopcheercheer
simply because he is so good looking, and if captain america should be nothing else, he should be good looking. not necessarily sexy in that rugged way of brad pitt, or the charming way of will smith. Just a really beautiful face please.
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reservoirdoll1987 Posted on Friday May 9, 2008, 17:20
Daniel Craig! *smacks forehead* Why did I not think of Daniel Craig? Were he not Bond, he'd be pretty damn perfect.
To whoever said Simon Pegg, I salute you! *would happily cough up her eight quid for that*
And that led to a tangent of genius (or probably stupidity): A beefed-up Greg Grundberg. I'm serious. It could fully work. |
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shadowkatie Posted on Friday May 9, 2008, 17:32
So, I didn't check all the comments, which makes it quite likely someone has already mentioned this... but Sam Jackson as Fury isn't that off-canon as far as Marvel goes. In the Ultimate comic book line, Sgt. Fury is black. And a badass. And therefore, not at all a surprise when Sam Jackson showed up as that Howling Commando. As to Will Smith as the Cap? It would be interesting, and he's pretty much the only black man in America who can open a blockbuster action movie. People would watch him as Captain America, and he would pull in the urban audience in a way that yet another white lead wouldn't... but I like sticking to canon, so Aaron Eckhart would be great.
Also, to all those who keep mentioning the very English Daniel Craig, maybe someday they will make a mindbending movie version of Captain Britain (ideally with eXcalibur) and he could play Captain Britain. |
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KingBigkerb Posted on Friday May 9, 2008, 17:46
everton,
respectfully, I think you're oh so wrong. As a fan of the comics (and NO, I am not one of those nerds who goes mental when the films change stuff, I do however go mental when they make nonsensical, bad decisions ala Catwoman), I can't see any connection between Barrowman and Cap. This may sound mean-spirited and not particularly constructive but I really do think that John Barrowman has the acting chops of someone from a group of 'village players', who constantly overacts at every turn because he simply MUST have all eyes on him. I love Dr Who but he's pretty much the reason I can't stand Torchwood. That and the fact its kinda rubbish.
Captain America, I think, is not an apple pie, gee mom, gung-ho kind of American, he's just a guy who strives to do the right thing and as proven in the comics, he's more than willing to go against his country if he believes what they are doing is wrong. I think Barrowman would play him like a ridiculously cheery version of Superman, which Cap just is not. He's like one of those soldiers that would never admit they were heroes but that the people around them were.
I don't think the gay things too much of an issue, Ian McKellen's openly gay and X-Men was hardly a failure, nor was Lord of the Rings.
Interestingly (to me anyway), after being called out by Chris Hewitt for accusing Jason Lewis a creepy serial killer, I've google-imaged him and now have to admit that he probably would make a decent Captain America but I still want Aaron Eckhart. |
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shadowkatie Posted on Friday May 9, 2008, 17:47
Oh, one other random point of geeky clarification, but due to Chris's USA-only rule, Nathan Fillion is disqualified, as is Brendan Fraser. They are both Canadians. Also, the suggestion of Bailey Chase was a good one. He was Graham, the attractive and somewhat conflicted Initiative soldier who every girl (at least this one) wanted to see more of during the whole Buffy-Riley 'relationship' era. |
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Chris Hewitt Posted on Friday May 9, 2008, 17:56
He might be the greatest actor in the world, but Bailey Chase should immediately be disqualified from playing Captain America just because... well, because he's called Bailey Chase. Marvel's biggest remaining unfilmed icon should not be played by a man named after a cocktail. |
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achmadsirman Posted on Friday May 9, 2008, 18:01
Sorry, couldn't be bothered to read all the above, weather too nice outside and I've still got a splitting headache from Speed Racer!
Did anyone mention Paul Walker? He's about the right age : ) |
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ambieson Posted on Friday May 9, 2008, 18:08
Bailey Chase; Check him out. He's a big guy, he's had a career on stage and screen but is relativly unknown. I don't know what is about Jason Lewis but I just don't like the thought of him as Cap. He's a good actor, like Chris said, he was great in House, but the shield just doesn't sit well on his arm for me.
Oh and John Barrowman as Captain America? You people need to have a word with yourselves. Like I said before, I'd rather have Matt Salinger back. |
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Chris Hewitt Posted on Friday May 9, 2008, 18:33
Hmm... this Bailey Chase fellow actually looks like he could work. I'll email Marvel with this info straightaway! |
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sowasred2012 Posted on Friday May 9, 2008, 18:51
Two words. Say it with me now... Brad... Beyer... |
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Jayseph Posted on Friday May 9, 2008, 19:59
Only problem with aaron Eckhart is that he'd be absolutely perfect for Thor! I can't imagine anyone else who could play the Thunder God. |
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Annfsa Posted on Friday May 9, 2008, 21:11
OMG just saw a picture of Aaron Eckhart on page 27 of the latest issue of Empire and by god i think Chris i think you were right on the money when you mentioned him...........he looks the part (i mean the hair is awesome, the build and the jaw is definately square) perfection personified. Right i think thats settled AE for Captain someone tell Marvel the search is over!!!! |
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FoximusPrime Posted on Friday May 9, 2008, 21:52
Fillion, Campbell, Warburton, Helo & Apollo from BSG, Ryan Reynolds, some dude called Beyer, etc. are all well and good but the ideal actor's already proven his action chops this year...
Michael. Cera.
The guy did almost nothing but run in Superbad and Juno - blatantly already training for the role!
C'mon, imagine Cap gets thawed out in the modern day - he's gonna be feeling a little awkward, a little nervous. And who does that better than Cera? No one, that's who.
No one.
Plus, if he can't get ripped in time, just CGI the extra 200 lbs onto him or give him a 'Vinnie-Jones'-Juggernaut-in X-Men 3-style' muscle suit.
Christ, how has Vinnie Bastard Jones been mentioned so much in this topic?? |
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ambieson Posted on Friday May 9, 2008, 22:53
You know Chris, if Bailey Chase is chosen I'm thinking I should get a finders fee. Mention that to Marvel too would you. |
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criderick Posted on Friday May 9, 2008, 22:53
Well, Chris, I think you should set things in order and do a new list before we get lost with so many names. When desperately looking for blond American actors, I found a guy who physically could be CA. The thing is that I've never watched one of his films. So I don't know about his acting skills. His name is Josh Duhamel. It seems he appeared in Transformers...
Then, though maybe a bit young and not too built, we have James Franco, who also has a chin.
But I still insist on suggesting Michael C. Hall because He's a brilliant versatile actor, has a 100% American neck and his look is not so stereotyped. I know you'd say it's supposed to be, but would such a guy inspire us to look beyond his image? I mean, look at Christian Bale. He doesn't look like the Bruce Wayne in the comics at all. He may had played Trevor Reznik, but, you see, after watching Batman Begins, he IS Bruce Wayne and I beging to search for the comic character to look like him. Films do something special, they bring to a closer reality what comics leave for imagination and, when a good actor comes in, the drawing changes or at least the way we look at it. So, in order to retain the spirit I pull for Michael C. Hall or Aaron Eckhart.
And please, not McConaughey. He always appears pictured with a stick in his teeth... |
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ambieson Posted on Friday May 9, 2008, 22:57
At least a mention in the credits... A plaque maybe... |
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criderick Posted on Friday May 9, 2008, 23:07
OK, I give you a plaque:
'We the Marvel team want to thank ambieson for having found the greatest superhero of all time: Captain America, who will inspire the entire world to be better and to fight for justice'.
Do you like it? |
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ambieson Posted on Saturday May 10, 2008, 00:51
I LOVE IT! You nailed it. Great plaque. In fact...
'I Ambieson (who has not figured out how to amend the user name he created several years ago) finder of "the greatest superhero of all time: Captain America, who will inspire the entire world to be better and to fight for justice" Thank you and commend you on your plaque making skills.
God speed son. |
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Chris Hewitt Posted on Saturday May 10, 2008, 01:49
Heh... if we can get together a definitive list of candidates, I will indeed send it to Kevin Feige. If he responds, I'll let you know. |
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ambieson Posted on Saturday May 10, 2008, 11:17
Very cool. All Jokes aside I really do think Bailey Chase would be an excelent choice for Captain America. I've even been checking for his listing on Facebook to suggest he put his name foward (no joy there). Actually I think my endorsements are becoming an unhealthy obsession...
Anyway, can we all agree that Arron Eckhart and bailey Chase should be on that list of candidates? |
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criderick Posted on Saturday May 10, 2008, 15:08
I agree with Ambieson. But let's add Michael C. Hall too, just in case (please); and Jason Lewis as well as so many people support his candidature.
God, I later realised Josh Duhamel was already on your list, Chris! If you think he's a good actor, I'll support him too for the new list.
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AlexRyde Posted on Saturday May 10, 2008, 15:28
OK - if people are serious about considering Will Smith for Cap, then why stop there? If the only reason to NOT consider him is because the guy is black, then why not start suggesting other trend breakers.
How about Jason Scott Lee? The guy is American. Ok, so he has oriental connections, but we won't let that bother us will we?
Or how about Hilary Swank? If Cap can be black, why can't he be a woman instead?
The problem we have is that we live in a world that is overly PC now. By casting a white guy as Cap, you make America's greatest hero a mirror image of the stereotypical Nazi's he originally fought. Maybe you'll also limit the box office takings (is money all its about now?) but if you make him black, you take away the magic for the comic book fans that allowed the character to become so popular in the first place.
Will Smith should be Goliath. Or Luke Cage. Or any of the black superheroes that currently inhabit the Marvel World. How about Will Smith as Goliath, playing in a superhero team (or a Marvel: Civil War movie) opposite Jamie Foxx as Black Panther.
Leave Cap as a white boy, and cast it with an unknown...
At least we can't be disappointed then... |
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joanna likes films Posted on Saturday May 10, 2008, 18:03
Hmm, not sure who I want to be Captain America. No way it should be Will Smith, he hasn't got it and Matthew? Please! I do argee with Josh Duhmael and Aaron Eckhart, they do have something. It's a shame they couldn't have British stars for it but it could be a flop if they picked someone really stupid for the role. Perhaps maybe Michael C Hall or Joaquin Phoenix, that might bring his career higher than before. |
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Deano101 Posted on Saturday May 10, 2008, 21:14
I think Ryan Gosling would be a great Captain!..He is blonde,blue eyed, a great actor.can do the boy scout 40's thing down to a tee!..All he would have to do is bulk up a bit, he is also the right age because Cap was quite young when he started!
I also think Eric Close would be good too!,he has the look and is a great actor too!
I hope they start the movie in the 40's,only trouble is the Avengers thing..Maybe Ironman can find him in the ice!! |
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Keyser Sozzled Posted on Sunday May 11, 2008, 00:22
I would love to see Nathan Fillion in the role.....ledge |
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Tabin78 Posted on Sunday May 11, 2008, 00:24
How about Tom Jane? From Punisher to Captain America. |
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Kenesu Posted on Sunday May 11, 2008, 01:37
Jason Lewis all the way. |
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EVIL BSTD Posted on Sunday May 11, 2008, 10:52
Of course they are going with the 40's origin.The whole appeal of Cap is that he's a man out of time,he believes in the Ideals that America is meant to represent.He's a living Legend,the reason they could updateIron Man's origin is that it's not rooted so firmly in History.If the U.S was to create a Super-Soldier now they would hardly wrap him in a flag and give him a shield would they.And i pray they don't cast McConaughey the man is a charisma vacuum.Oh and am I the only one who is tired of finding out about these secret endings on movies after the credits only after I have paid to see the movie. |
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gambit21 Posted on Sunday May 11, 2008, 13:38
Again a shout for Adrian Pasdar. Also AlexRyde... Will Smith as Goliath I like. but Only the Rock can play Luke Cage. I second the proposal to send a list to Kevin Feige. We should all be credited in casting |
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Chrisseh Posted on Sunday May 11, 2008, 16:26
Having read up on the internet about Captain America - I have found out that Different people have been Captain America throughout the Captain America Timeline. I think it also says that the leader of the Avengers Team chooses who should fill the boots, so casting someone like Will Smith I think would be totally do-able. Will Smith I think would be the best choice for the role. |
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ambieson Posted on Sunday May 11, 2008, 17:43
Chrisseh I have read Captain America and The Avengers since 1988 and what you said above is completly incorrect. Different people have been Captain America for the sake of a storyline. The Avengers have never chosen who to be Captain America. Steve Rogers has been Captain America since the character was created , save for maybe a few moths for various storyline which have gone over many years and also right now, since the charicter 'died' last year. |
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KingBigkerb Posted on Sunday May 11, 2008, 17:44
Chrisseh
Thats not strictly true, the main Captain America has always been Steve Rogers, a scrawny kid who wanted to join the war effort and signed up for the super soldier program. This was all in WWII, long before the Avengers were formed. Yeah, others have been Cap but its always come back to him.
SPOILER! The latest Cap was chosen by Iron Man (the leader of the Avengers) but thats because Steve Rogers is dead (apparently) but aside from that (I don't think) its ever been a case of the Avengers leader picking a new Cap. As I said, its pretty much always been Steve Rogers.
If he wasn't such a well-established and well-loved character then maybe you could change something like the race but people want to see the Cap they know and love and there's actually no reason to do it, other than the money that Smith would bring to the box office but then that would be making a huge change just for cash? I'm sure Will Smith wouldn't be ass but I'm also positive that someone else that actually looks like Cap could probably do it better.
I wonder what the reaction would be if filmmakers decided to make a Black Panther film or another Blade film and suggested that the characters transcends race and therefore they were going to cast a white guy. I'm pretty sure that would be considered hugely offensive. Or at the very least kinda stupid and pointless. |
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tacceber Posted on Sunday May 11, 2008, 21:20
Jack McBrayer. You know I'm right. |
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sowasred2012 Posted on Sunday May 11, 2008, 22:51
Brad Beyer for Cap.
Also, KingBigkerb - I get what you're saying about Blade and Black Panther, but, and this has been pointed out multiple times already on here, their ethnicity is a big part of those two characters, particularly Black Panther, while Cap's character is more about what he represents i.e. everything that is good and pure about America, not everything that is *white* and good and pure about America. So a black Cap really wouldn't be so blasphemous, as long as the character remains the same.
I'll actually retract what I just said about Blade's ethnicity being a big part of his character - I really don't think it is. Recasting Blade in a future movie with a white guy would be ridiculous, because he's been established as black now, but I seriously doubt anyone would've kicked up much of a fuss if the first movie had had Blade played by a white guy because he's just not that big of a character. A tiny few die-hard fans would've kicked off ala Constantine's change from blond scouser to raven haired yank, but no-one would've really cared. Those movies are the only reason Blade is at all popular now. |
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DigitalMan Posted on Monday May 12, 2008, 01:56
I don't see why you couldn't have someone younger play Cap, if the script stays close to the original story 'Cap fights in WW2, falls out of plane and is FROZEN in ice 30ish years untill The Avengers find and rescue him'. No need for someone to be older to play Cap, just as long as he has some depth to his eyes they can do the rest with makeup. I'm saying no to both Will Smith and Nathan Fillion and it's only due to phisical things you can't hide...Fillion has a hair lip, it would be harder for him to maintain a secret identity than the Supes with glasses thing. Smith coz he's got the friggen biggest ears in the biz right now, they wouldn't need to put wings on the cowl...HE'S GOT THEM ALREADY!!!
I vote Clark Bartram |
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DigitalMan Posted on Monday May 12, 2008, 02:11
Okay, so i realise that Clark doesn't fit into my 'younger guy with makeup theory' but have you seen him? He has quite possibly the closest thing to a comic book physique ever! AND he played another character who is in top physical condition...THE BATMAN!!!!
If you haven't had the chance to give your inner fanboy/girl an orgasm, check out 'Batman: Dead End' |
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harrisa59 Posted on Monday May 12, 2008, 03:18
Paul Walker-Should be a no brainer he fits the mold-Did you see Into the Blue or Running Scared-He was buff and kicked some a#%! Should be a lesser known actor who is a good ole american boy! |
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Lance Uppercut Posted on Monday May 12, 2008, 03:43
Thomas Kretschmann for The Red Skull! Michael C. Hall for Captain America!
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paolo verdi Posted on Monday May 12, 2008, 09:32
Would a blonde David Boreanaz work? His work in 'Angel' and 'Bones' show he can do tough as well as patriotic soldier, and he has the whole chiselled jaw thing going on? Just thought I'd throw in my two-pence worth! |
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phalles Posted on Monday May 12, 2008, 11:47
PAUL WALKER !! |
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EVIL BSTD Posted on Monday May 12, 2008, 13:54
The wwe's John Cena is perfect for the role he has the comic book physique,steely gaze and square jaw. |
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howard the duck Posted on Monday May 12, 2008, 15:21
i think the best way to make a superhero movie these days is to reinvent the Charecter . like Downey Junior for Iron Man or Bale kinda did for Batman you wanna give these charecters a new twist. I'm not saying they should cast sean Connery as the red Skull because his glorious russian accent in the hunt for red october made him a glorafied russian bad guy ( joke by the way) but lets make superhero films be kick ass and chew bubble gum films again. not Toby Maguire dancing like an emo on the sidewalks of manhatten. capatin america in my Idea could be played by Losts Josh Holloway. instead of fighting for truth Justice and the American way he should be fighting cause he is pissed off and wants to kick some commy ass. just an Idea!! |
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Pop27 Posted on Monday May 12, 2008, 16:45
Almost every actor anyone has mentioned has to grow a good twelve inches for the part. Almost everyone is just too damn short.
I think the main problem is that Capt A is really out-dated: too republican, too all-american, and too white for this days world.
What are going to do to the character himself?
And yes, I loved Capt A back in the eighties. Go read Daredevil: Pariah by Frank Miller. Capt was troubled. |
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KingBigkerb Posted on Monday May 12, 2008, 17:11
sowasred2012
very good points, and yes you're right, Black Panther is a bad example but I disagree about Blade. Sure no-one outside of comics knew who he was until Snipes rolled him out but there would have plenty of fans of the comics out there who would have been pretty pissed that they turned a black character they loved into a white dude. I know that you can't make every decision about a comic movie based purely on what the fanboys want, but to make decisions about a comic movie by completely ignoring what the fanboys want is worse. They should always be in the film-makers minds. Not so they dominate the decisions but just so they get a bit more than a knowing wink and a nudge every now and then. I can see it now, Will Smith as Cap bursting into a room and saying “What were you expecting? A blond haired white guy?” It would be awful and the fanboys would be expected to laugh but really they’d crying inside.
Anyway, I think the fact that Cap is white is important to his character. Not massively important but important enough that there isn’t a single good reason to change it. As has been said many times (probably by me) when he was created by the super soldier serum, aside from being said Super Soldier, he was intended as a poster boy for the US as well and I'm sad to say, Americans in the forties just would not have bought a black guy as the 'Face of America' and while that isn't the case anymore, that's just one of those little inaccuracies that would really just take you out of it. If you brought him forward anymore to a time when the general public would have accepted a Black guy as Cap you'll end up losing the whole 'man out of time' vibe.
"Cap you're a veteran of the first Gulf War, you've been frozen since the early nineties" "Really, whats happened since then? how has the world changed?" "Well the, um, internets got faster and people are fatter..."
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KingBigkerb Posted on Monday May 12, 2008, 17:12
I know the internet fanboys get blasted a lot for being pissy little bitches when their favourite characters get changed but at the end of the day, these guys (me included!) have been waiting for years to see their favourite characters in movies and to change someone as well known as Cap in such a major way just because most punters aren't into the comics and wouldn’t care, is kinda disrespectful to the people that bought enough comics to make a movie of the character worth doing. Its like saying, the way he looks isn’t important to this group of people but it is important to you... so lets just do what will make the most money regardless of what you nerds think.
Obviously what works best for the film should always come first but us geeks need a little more than just naming a bit part character after the artist that created the character and a hokey one liner joking about their old costume. We want to see Steve Rogers come alive straight from the comics dammit!!
I must stop now, I’m starting to rant like Smith’s already been cast and let’s be honest, even if he would do it well, its unlikely that he ever would be cast.
Sorry Sowasred, I may have gone completely off point...
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gambit21 Posted on Monday May 12, 2008, 18:01
I've got it...Ray Winston.... jokes. I'm still not sure on the Will Smith Cap issue. I can see the arguments from both sides. I think though that in the end they wont cast a black Cap, also after Hancock will Big Willie really be a suitable fit?I'm still supporting Adrian Pasdar but if you want a black actor what about Leonard Roberts? He's tall, good actor, pretty stacked and he has authority. A possible Big Willie replacement? I still think Viggo for Red Skull though. |
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SolarDave Posted on Monday May 12, 2008, 18:41
Other people may have said this I will just mention it. You say that Marvel chnaged the race of Nick Fury in Iron Man. While this is true in the Ultimate Marvel universe Nick Fury is black and surprisingly looks like Samuel L. Jackson. Check Wikipedia.
P.S I'm such a geek. |
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adamei Posted on Monday May 12, 2008, 19:28
Jensen Ackles gets my vote. If there's a short-list, he's got to be on it! |
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sowasred2012 Posted on Monday May 12, 2008, 22:08
King Bigkerb,
You make a really good point actually - in theory, a black Cap would work IF his origin story was retconned so's he was created in the 70's or later. But him fighting the Nazi's in WW2 is such a big part of the Cap mythos that to contemplate updating his origin would kind of dilute him - Cap is incredibly easy to idolise as this ultra-hero because he started out fighting something perceived to be absolutely evil; Nazis. It's a very effective and clean establishing story, which wouldn't be so much the case with the Vietnam or Gulf wars.
The sad fact is, as you say, that since Cap was a poster boy for the WW2 era US Army he'd have to be white.
Brad Beyer for Cap. |
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Chris Hewitt Posted on Monday May 12, 2008, 23:10
SolarDave, yes, Nick Fury is black - and, let's be frank, Sam Jackson - in the Ultimates Universe (Ultimateverse?). But Iron Man is a movie based on the ORIGINAL Marvel Universe, and therefore they have changed the colour of Nick Fury's skin. And as I pointed out in my blog, not for the first time in a Marvel movie. So they could easily do the same thing with Cap... but I fear we may be going round and round in circles on this one.
So, anyone care to go through all 241 posts (way to go, people!) and make a definitive list, which I promise I will send to Marvel? I would do it, but I'm packing for Cannes right now. |
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Curtis_Lemanski Posted on Monday May 12, 2008, 23:21
Anyone for Kenneth Johnson AKA Curtis "Lemonhead" Lemanski from The Shield?
He's got the chin and he can pull off that naive, moral, wide-eyed innocence. And he can still kick the crap out of the bad-asses when necessary. |
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gambit21 Posted on Tuesday May 13, 2008, 00:35
OK i've got something of a definitive list. I've included people who have been mentioned a lot or seem to have potential. I have discounted non-americans and guys who are probably too old and anyone i just dont like. In no particular order,: Will Smith, Brad Beyer, Adrian Pasdar, Jason Lewis, Aaron Eckhart, Paul Walker, Ryan Phillipe, Justin Hartley, Josh Hartnett, Jensen Ackles, Sean William Scott, Bailey Chase, Josh Duhamel and ok even if he is Canadian ...Nathan Fillion. |
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thing_2 Posted on Tuesday May 13, 2008, 08:32
I completely agree with your choices of Jason Lewis and Josh Duhammel 10/10... Jensen Ackles and Jared Padalecki i believe would also be good candidates...although Jason Lewis is perfect for the role and he really deserves a big break like this!!! |
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ambieson Posted on Tuesday May 13, 2008, 09:14
I don't think we should count the suggestions Chris. There was a worrying amount of votes for John Barrowman remember... I think we'll trust you to put foward the suggestions that stuck out to you. |
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sowasred2012 Posted on Tuesday May 13, 2008, 10:25
gambit 21 - I'm sure it was an innocent mistake but you forgot to include Brad Beyer on that list. |
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gambit21 Posted on Tuesday May 13, 2008, 10:47
sowasred2012 brad beyer is on my list he is right there after will smith. |
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ambieson Posted on Tuesday May 13, 2008, 11:57
Any one we schould narrow that list down? Top 5 maybe? If everone posts their top 3 choices and I count up the votes and write the list in order. I'm off work anyway, might as well keep busy. |
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shazam Posted on Tuesday May 13, 2008, 13:40
ERIC JOHNSON - Has anyone seen him in the new Flash Gordon or am I the only one? He's got the perfect look. |
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benjc Posted on Tuesday May 13, 2008, 14:47
Could we not just cast Robert Downey Jr. as everyone in the entire Marvel universe? |
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sowasred2012 Posted on Tuesday May 13, 2008, 15:27
gambit21 - Oh yeah, I apologise for my insolence. |
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bnepro Posted on Tuesday May 13, 2008, 18:09
what about brolin? aaron eckhart or josh lucas would both be excellent, really. lucas has the obnoxiously-perfect smile, eckhart has the chin-of-the-century... |
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Roast Rev Posted on Tuesday May 13, 2008, 19:34
Randy Couture IS Captain America. Period. |
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EVIL BSTD Posted on Tuesday May 13, 2008, 21:23
Steve Rogers was born in 1922 making him about 23 when he was frozen/unfrozen. |
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robcameron Posted on Tuesday May 13, 2008, 23:38
If we are serious about getting the right actor for Captain America I think we need to think a bit outside of the box. There are a number of reasons for this; first and foremost being that despite the time and efforts of many – here and elsewhere – no one has arrived at an option that I think fully satisfies even themselves never mind forming a consensus amongst a wider audience. What is needed above a beyond anything else in this role is gravitas. What Captain America demands as a role is unquestionable leadership and gravitas, more so than any other comic book. I think if we are really serious about this movie, this gravitas needs to be amongst the greatest in the movie canon. If we think in the recent history of movies, these are two that spring to mind who have defined for a generation an iconic masculine leadership quality. While Brad Pitt has been mentioned, I am surprised that no one has mentioned Russell Crowe. This is not to say he is at all viable for the role, but it is important to look as what he has brought to the screen. In Fight Club, Brad Pitt was an enigmatic and cultish leader who redefined an anarchistic mode of masculine gravitas, incorporating an element of insanity and slapstick into his leadership qualities; this reflects his wider acting roles. For Brad Pitt to succeed as Captain America it would require a fairly major re-orientation of is acting style. It is in this context that I think we should turn to the other recent iconic portrayal of masculine leadership, seen in Gladiator. Basically this is exactly what needs to be brought to the role of Captain America. He need not be as ruthless and bloody but what is required is an unquestioned respect as a leader, even by those who are more powerful, stemming from a combination of superior tactical acumen and a willingness to effectively lead by example. He needs to be smart yet unquestionably the alpha male.
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robcameron Posted on Tuesday May 13, 2008, 23:39
I am writing a PhD on terrorism, part of which conceptualises the power of terrorists as actors. What makes terrorists distinct as actors, is their ability to enact disproportionate effects per individual. They are not bound by the power/responsibility nexus. This is because they are asocial; they are not restricted by a fear of death or respect for social norms and are willing to wield as much destructive power as possible. Thomas Friedman refers to this as ‘super-empowerment’. This is based on an assumption that regular individuals are only able to wield a certain amount of power and affect a certain amount of change. While politicians or religious leaders may be able to create great change they need a vast supportive bureaucratic apparatus. What makes super-heroes super, I’d argue, is their ability to wield great power with massive effect as a single actor, whilst not violating, indeed in the case of Captain America even reinforcing, social norms.
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robcameron Posted on Tuesday May 13, 2008, 23:39
An actor for the role of the iconic leader of superheroes needs to have a devastating screen presence. He needs to positively smoulder leadership, he needs to be able to pull iconic poses without looking like a tool. Russell Crowe did this in Gladiator. As an Australian myself, perhaps I am biased but I think another Australian, Hugh Jackman, is a great example of what needs to be brought to the screen. It brokers no argument now that he IS Wolverine. He embodies the role. This was not always the case; indeed the casting at the time seemed counter-intuitive. Prior to X-Men, Hugh Jackman was well known for playing a cross-dressing queen in Priscilla, Queen of the Desert. Unlike now, he was not particularly ripped – I saw him at Byron Bay main beach the other day: he is massive. In interviews Jackman recounts how he himself was surprised he was picked for the role, needing to madly hit the gym. Wolverine is a brutally primal character, traits that Jackman does not otherwise embody. What he brings to it is great acting to at once make himself the role and yet also make the role uniquely his. |
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robcameron Posted on Tuesday May 13, 2008, 23:42
Christian Bale has also done this with Batman, employing his method acting to bestow the right amount of gravitas to the role. As with Hugh Jackman, Bale does embody Bruce Wayne already. While he is ripped and has a background playing corporate characters with a dark side, he does not immediately scream Batman. Like Jackman, however, it was superior acting that made the role. Robert Downey Jr., while a great actor, is an exception to the case. As an idiosyncratic savant with a predilection for substance abuse and addiction to predatory womanising he already was Tony Stark. He is Tony Stark; he does not need to employ a huge amount of method insofar as he is already that character. Short of someone tailor made for the role, the essence of Captain America needs to be brought by a skilled actor. |
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robcameron Posted on Tuesday May 13, 2008, 23:42
I think the focus on physical traits hinders the process of finding the most suitable actor. While all-American Captain America was never model-chiselled. Aaron Eckhart and Mark Valley both fit this bill but this intense resemblance is not helpful if they do not possess the necessary acting acumen and gravitas for the role. Perhaps surrounding them with a Meisner-trained support cast could bestow this aura but there needs to be some great lead acting. To this end I have extolled the virtues of actors such as Jackman and Bale bringing that extra acting something to superhero roles. Wolverine and Batman are dark, often ruthless solo characters. Such qualities do not require them to be a leader of super-heroes. This is something else that must to be brought to the character of Captain America. Captain America, particularly by the time the Avengers rolls around has to be able to stand out as a leader amongst those who are themselves inspirational and awe-inspiring if it is to be in any way successful. |
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robcameron Posted on Tuesday May 13, 2008, 23:46
If he wasn’t already Iron Monger and perhaps a bit younger, I’d suggest someone like William Hurt. While not really feasible, someone along those lines could be made to look younger and I think could bring what is required for the role of Captain America. |
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TEFFH Posted on Wednesday May 14, 2008, 00:35
As I am not going to a "small shindig" in the south of France (I have ignored writing my PhD thesis instead, but Chris, don't forget the sunscreen), I have compiled the definitive(ish) list.
In trying to avoid all bias, here are approximate thumbs up nominations in all 280+ posts, and the order is approximate order posted in. Note,I am and not checking everything, so I may have got the numbers a bit screwy too, or forgotten someone, but I am only human (the genetic manipulation is taking longer than expected). I have also tried to avoid marking down repeat “person X should be Cap Am” from the same person.
Anywho, the list Highest noms = Aaron Eckhardt – 12, Nathan Fillion – 8 and Jason Lewis – 7. Four or Five noms = Bruce Campbell, Josh Brolin, Adrian Pasdar, Justin Hartley, Michael C Hall, Brendon Fraser and Daniel Craig Two or three noms = Tahmoh Panikett, Tom Jane, Viggo Mortensen (also suggestions he should play Red Skull), Owen Wilson, The Rock (more suggestions for Luke Cage as well), Brad Pitt, Chris Evans, Sean William Scott, Josh Hartnett, John Cena, Brad Breyer, Patrick Warburton, Josh Lucas, Neil McDonagh, Jake Gyllenhall, James Marsden, Ryan Phillippe, Chris Klein (some nagitve noms too), Ryan Gosling, Jensen Ackles, Paul Walker, Damien Lewis, John Barrowman (although some negative noms too), Simon Pegg (technically, but doubt seriousness of noms), Bailey Chase and Josh Duhamel. One noms – Daniel Day Lewis, Mark Wahlberg, Stephen Baldwin (serious nom?), Zach Gilford, Ryan Reynolds, Jamie BamberAshton Kutcher, Vin Diesel, Matthew Settle, Matt DamonCole Hauser, George Eads, Eric Bana, Brian Austin Green, Eric Johnson, Colin Ferguson, Peter Krause, Neil Patrick Harris, Eddie Cahill, Gerard Butler, Matt Blucas (some negative noms) William Gregory Lee, Michael Crea, James Franco, Jason Scott Lee (serious nom?), Joaquin Phoenix, Eric Close, Jack McBrayer, Clark Bartrum, Josh Holloway, Russell Crowe and Hugh Jackman (both in a VERY long nom). |
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IcarusII Posted on Wednesday May 14, 2008, 10:17
is there room for another potential dark-horse in Keifer Sutherland? Or too typecast as Jack? What Christian Bale did for Batman, surely Keifer could do with Cap America? |
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sideshowjim Posted on Wednesday May 14, 2008, 11:37
I say give it to patrick warburton, then do the whole thing in the style of the tick tv show, or like a higher budget mystery men. Maybe with a bit of "the brady bunch movie" poking at older values and such. It could be genius!
Or alternatively, it could become "superhero movie" and end up filled with lame sex jokes and pop-culture references (how about they have to pick their superpowers, in the style of deal or no deal? Just send me a cheque, hollywood...) |
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criderick Posted on Thursday May 15, 2008, 15:41
TEFFH and Gambit21, thanks for putting some order on this chaos! Chris,.. lucky man in Cannes, have some toast to us! |
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mebbetheywasinjuns Posted on Friday May 16, 2008, 10:52
Sorry, but I only just noticed this and felt compelled to comment. William Hurt isn't Iron Monger, that's Jeff Bridges. That is all. Also, I have now been swayed to the idea of Aaron Eckhart. All he need do is hit the weights, and hope that what will hopefully be a fantastic performance as Two-Face does not forever disturb the film-going world. |
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Karl Crutchley Posted on Friday May 16, 2008, 13:09
Although not a blond, what about Matthew Fox? He managed to pulled off the masked character without looking like a plum in Speed Racer, and has been leading that bunch on the island in Lost for over 3 seasons now. At 6'2" he's tall, and is pretty ripped. Although his chin isn't as chiselled and dimpled as Eckharts, its still pretty sharp. |
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lovemunkey187 Posted on Saturday May 17, 2008, 00:39
Got to agree that I think that Matthew Fox is being dismissed from the running a little too quickly(he'd be my first choice).
I've not gone through all 266 posts, but the casting of Samuel L. Jackson as Colonel Nick Fury in the Iron Man film isn't without precedence. In the Mark Millar scripted and illustrated by Brain Hitch comic The Ultimates(which is The Avengers, updated, edgy and an excellent read), they secured the rights to use Sam's likeness.
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kellymburgess Posted on Saturday May 17, 2008, 17:51
Will Smith, Will Smith, Will Smith! That way, I'll definitely see it! The man's a legend and holds the title of Most Popular Movie Star Ever! (Move over Tom Cruise, who ever you are.) So, other than that, please not the guy from Sex and The City and certainly not Matthew Fox. I find myself thinking that Leo DiCaprio could be good, but not sure. So, give someone from TV a chance and in that case, I say Helo from BSG. |
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zombie01 Posted on Monday May 19, 2008, 00:44
That Sawyer fella from Lost should do it.
Or Bruce Campbell. |
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grifter101 Posted on Wednesday May 21, 2008, 10:53
david beckham? |
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jboyle79 Posted on Thursday May 22, 2008, 15:42
Right guys, with the advent of the news that CAppy is going to be set during good ol' WWII - I think the rumour mill around big willy can be put to rest. This is a traditional Captain America, and we need a wholesome, blonde-haired, blue-eyed all-American type to play him.
My money is still on Ryan Reynolds - I shall champion him to the hilt!!
Oh, and maybe wwe will get to see a European superhero - I was flicking through my old comic books the other day and came across the Spidey cross-over with: CAPTAIN BRITAIN!! Brian Braddock - a mild-mannered University Physics student - given amazing powers through a magical amulet gifted to him by Merlyn and Roam (read ancient druidic god-types).... He could even fly through the use of his magical sceptre, which was very similar to Green Lantern's ring in that it was a mystical multi-tool doing everything from flight source, to energy shields! He teamed up with Captain America, Nick Fury and S.T.R.I.K.E. (UK S.H.I.E.L.D) to fight Red Skull, and has even appeared in Spidey!!
C'mon guys, let's start the campaign for Captain Britain!!! (And now we're talking Daniel Craig as the obvious choice for actor......)
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Leon Posted on Thursday May 22, 2008, 16:47
Not Steven Seagal?
I'm liking the idea of Boreanaz. |
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ThomasJohnson Posted on Friday May 23, 2008, 14:17
I'd probably cast Will Smith.
I also think casting Jon Hamm from the tv show Mad Men might work. Not blond but does have a helluva jaw. |
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Yorkshirebint Posted on Monday May 26, 2008, 11:27
Ever heard of hair dye and bleach? Surely anyone COULD be blonde if that is a crucial criteria. |
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keyzersaulsie Posted on Monday May 26, 2008, 14:49
Meryl Streep is the only artiste capable of investing Captain America, nay Steve Rogers, with the emotional range and versatility worthy of the character. No streep, no me in the audience. Think about this Marvel Studios, think about this very seriously. |
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Sickbob Posted on Monday May 26, 2008, 18:21
Steve Rogers is supposed to be a New Yorker so if Nathan Fillion can do the accent then definitely him otherwise maybe Ed Burns. (though if Aaron Eckhardt gets the role I wouldn't be upset) |
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zaheero Posted on Thursday May 29, 2008, 23:12
I have the solution!! A CGI altered white Will SmIth.(c) |
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gambit21 Posted on Friday May 30, 2008, 17:19
hey Chris now that Cannes is over. Are you going to send a list to kevin feige? |
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chod burger Posted on Tuesday June 3, 2008, 13:16
Oh my god - Michael Cera would make that the funniest movie ever made!!! |
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trevorc187 Posted on Tuesday June 3, 2008, 18:12
Ryan Reynolds is playing Deadpool in Wolverine Origins and hopefully a few spin-offs, so he's out. An important name that's missing.... Cole Hauser. Thought he'd be perfect after seeing Pitch Black all those years ago, should be in the running. |
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Steelwheels Posted on Wednesday June 4, 2008, 15:57
Apologies if the following has already been said; I just can't be bothered to sit down and read all 280 previous posts...
I think that Cap should be played by someone who will also work in an Avengers movie. The actor cast should have a good dynamic with Downey and Norton, as well as be able to go head-to-head with these suburb actors. I think that McConaughey totally fits that bill. |
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jboyle79 Posted on Monday June 9, 2008, 09:35
Really?? Reynolds is deadpool?? Where did you hear that trevor??? |
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Rayn Belmont Posted on Tuesday June 10, 2008, 08:06
I've gotta say, I've been thinking this for years, even before Marvel said they'd be doing a Cap flix. Marc Blucas. He played Riley in 'Buffy' and is 100%, all american good guy. Also, there is surely room in the character of Steve Rogars, given his man out of time/lost in a strange new world situation, for some hardcore dramatic acting. Which I believe this young guy could offer. Plus, he's about 6'4', blond hair, blue eyes and an unknown just like....um, Chris Reeves.Give the kid a chance. |
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pedrohassan Posted on Friday June 13, 2008, 16:02
Josh Holloway! |
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pedrohassan Posted on Friday June 13, 2008, 16:09
The role of Cap' has to be filled by Josh Holloway who plays Sawyer from Lost - Come on - you know it makes sense!!!! |
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chuffbum Posted on Friday June 13, 2008, 16:27
Seriously, watching BSG last night. Helo is Cap!! Give it to him!!! |
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djamesc Posted on Tuesday June 17, 2008, 14:51
John Krasinski who plays 'Jim' in the american version of 'The Office'. Strong chin, good acting ability... I assume this won't be deadly serious and be a little bit playful and he can handle that. He also seems quite imposing physically. He must be touching his 30's by now. |
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jmh Posted on Wednesday June 18, 2008, 13:19
Casper Van Dien.............I win ; ) |
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captbruce Posted on Thursday June 26, 2008, 22:38
Will Smith -- no, and I'm African American. I agree with the points that he would do wonders for the movies box office potential, he represents everything Steve Rogers stands for, and would be a bold, inspired move, the comic book geek in me can't get past it. You can mess with minor characters like that (Alicia Masters anyone?), but no, I can't get behind Big Will as Cap. Call me shortsighted.
Aaron Eckhart actually I think would be better as Thor. He can pull off the braddagio and cockiness, but bring likeability to the Thunder God. And he's the right age, can get in the gym to buff up a bit, and can handle it.
I like Jason Lewis as a choice for Cap, but can he pull off being inspirational? Can he inherently inspire others to follow him (other than the women who think he's hot ;) He's got the look but a lot of question marks on the acting/charisma front.
And while they could go with an unknown, it would be unwise on Marvel's part to do so. I mean, you're going to have an unknown go toe to toe with Robert Downey Jr as Tony Stark? Think about those two characters in Civil War. Who do you think Downey as Stark could be paired with to give that back and forth of both awe and guilt over respecting him versus fighting for the ideal he believes is right? They need a name actor. |
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juvemass Posted on Friday June 27, 2008, 13:54
People Ryan Phillipe is perfect for the role of Captain America. American, blonde and blue eyed, mid thirties. We have seen him pumped up for roles such as in 'way of the gun'. Knows how to play an all american soldier as seen in 'Flags of our fathers'. Perfect for the role! It's time he took a big role on. Plus he is a decent actor. |
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shaolinPoodle Posted on Wednesday July 9, 2008, 12:01
If we're all talking hypotheticals here, anyone up for Burt Lancaster fresh off the set of 'From Here to Eternity?' (Time-travel device/vehicle/machine/powers permitting of course!) |
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Adam Rushin Posted on Friday July 18, 2008, 01:08
I was thinking potentially Joel Gretsch of Taken semi-stardom seems to fit the bill. Chiselled face with the attitude of an all American blondie. Without a doubt Eckhart would be a fine choice. Why also discount Josh Holloway? |
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paradigm69 Posted on Sunday July 27, 2008, 19:02
Just had to register to add my suggestion, surprised no one else has thought of this one ? Just watched a repeat of Tim Burton's "Sleepy Hollow" and there was a fairly demanding fight scene in their with CASPER VAN DIEN (also was a good action actor in "Starship Troopers". He's blondish, was buff in ST, and has blue eyes and a chiseled jaw - what say you good people? |
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SWOTBM Posted on Monday July 28, 2008, 19:50
chris, i hope you havent sent that list to kevin feige yet, cause i have a humdinger of a suggestion; Barry Pepper. the guy has such a mean look about him (that is unless he isnt crying his eyes out like in the green mile) and he can most definitely act.
though there are two proviso's; 1. he is canadian, but he does a good ''american'' accent 2. he would need to bulk up some more
stop the votes guys, we have a winner in BARRY PEPPER |
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KeithM Posted on Thursday July 31, 2008, 14:41
Good debate.
I have to add my tuppence to the 'no to Will Smith' side, I'm afraid.
Yes, Will does represent modern USA well, but Captain America is not meant to represent modern America at all. He's a man out of time, an anachronism. Modern America is a mystery to him, an alien world where the ideals he fought for and watched his friends die for have been corrupted, stamped on and sold out to commercial interests.
His being an all American corn fed white boy is not only important, but absolutely integral to the character, as are the WWII origins. As he's frozen in ice, there is simply no need to 'update' his origin. If you did it just wouldn't be the same character. It would be akin to having Superman being born on Earth because it's more relatable than Krypton. You take away any part of his origin and you immediately lose all the nuances and conflicting themes that being a privileged white poster boy for AMERICA (fuck yeah!) in WWII transplanted to modern times brings.
Part of his story (albeit retconned later) is learning about racism (with black recruits being used as guinea pigs for the serum which is ultimately used on him - because, as has been noted, the US Govt at the time would not have entertained anything BUT a white corn-fed boy as their poster boy - and that in itself creates a conflict for a white Steve Rogers right there, which would be eliminated entirely if he was black).
There's also the notion of Cap representing NOT the American nation or its government, but its IDEALS - and the way modern America is now it adds so much more dramatic resonance if we see how a privileged all-American white boy, with all the advantages that gives him, views the choices his country has made over the years (and especially recently) - a black character would not have that same 'world-view changing' epiphany imo.
I like Aaron Eckhardt. I never predicted Downey Jr as Iron Man though, so I'm not too good at this game tbh.
Now I can see Smith as the Falcon |
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VI the 6th Posted on Friday August 1, 2008, 19:58
Okay Great stuff Heres my story if they wanted to do a Will smith as Captain America: Isaiah Bradley the ORIGINAL Original Captain America used as a Guinea Pig for the super solider serum after a few months of him on the battlefield the deploy Steve Rogers the Captain America together with Bucky and Falcon they do everything they set out to do in the comics (minus the Side Effects) so on that faithful day with the new Alien Technology powered missile that the Axis has All four(both Caps, Falcon and bucky) Heroes go and get on the missile and when Falcon and Steve notice they would have to blow it up KILLING STEVE AND FALCON they toss Isaiah and Bucky off landing them in the ice when everything blows 60 odd years pass and Isaiah and Bucky are found preserved are revived and Isaiah carries on the mantle of Capt and Bucky Barnes dawns the mantle of falcon of course using Stark Industies tech there you go and that's how you make a black captain and at the same time a White Falcon |
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VI the 6th Posted on Friday August 1, 2008, 20:06
And trust me going from a world where you can't drink out of a certain type of fountain without being shot at but can drive through Compton without worry of a single mugger to a world where you limits are practically the sky on what you can't do but the streets have becoming so crappy that people have bars on the windows is pretty jarring. I can only imagine the fun dialogue between Robert Downy acting as Tony and Will Smith as Cap |
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KeithM Posted on Saturday August 2, 2008, 15:13
VI - I commend you for your effort, but that is a truly awful idea sorry. :) |
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KeithM Posted on Saturday August 2, 2008, 15:19
I have an even better idea. Actually it's not my idea - it was written by a couple of guys a few years ago called Simon and Kirby. It's this little story of young Steve Rogers, a feeble white kid who desperately wants to join the US army to fight against the terrors of nazism in Europe. Unfortunately, he has a heart condition so fails the medical tests. However, the army has a new 'Super-Soldier' program and are looking for recruits to test it on...
I don't know, I'm not sure this is as good as some of the other ideas written here, but then again it's only been popular for over 50 years, so what do I know?
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VI the 6th Posted on Saturday August 2, 2008, 22:08
It's called THINKING OF SOMETHING ORIGINAL!! OMFG it's mind blowing!! let's not use the same story that has been used for the past 60 years or else we're just pretty much in a repeating cycle with NO END and when you heroes have no originality your inspiration has no originality, and when that happens you think of stuff that's already been made and patented 30 years ago. That's why stuff like Kick ass is made because it's original(It already is slated for a movie adaption) and breaks the cycle that's why stuff like Planet Hulk and is great because it unlike for the past 50 years where Hulk has wondered the planet he truly didn't fit in with he finally finds true piece of mind and has a place where he's not shunned where he had child on the way the woman was able to deal with both Banner and Hulk ALL THE TIME not just some of the time like Betty. That's what makes stories like Truth:Red White and Black so powerful because it throws what we thought about the character's story and tosses out the window and shows us how naive our heroes are and thus making us realize how naive we've been not trying to think outside the box |
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VI the 6th Posted on Saturday August 2, 2008, 22:27
So remaking Steve Rogers brick from brick like we remember his origins is boring it really is atleast incredible hulk took the old shows twist to his origins and used it but wasn't him saving some one's life and getting exposed it was an experiment to recreate the super solider serum. why not put a twist on it because like Steve there where feeble black kids who weren't even given a chance to fight Nazism aboard who believed in the Double Victory "At home and aboard" and America. See because Captain America is not about him being white, it's about what America stands Equality, Freedom and the pursuit of happiness. Him being white and known as white is only a bonus because he could have had a full face mask and goggles no one would care about his skin color. |
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KeithM Posted on Sunday August 3, 2008, 11:32
Do you work in Hollywood by any chance?
What makes you think your idea, your so called 'originality' (and nothing you've typed so far is anything like original tbh) is so much better than something which has been popular, and even loved for six decades?
There's a difference between the ongoing development and evolution of a character or story than a wholesale alteration of its basic premise.
If you have an 'original' idea, and if it's so much better than stuff that has endured for generations, then where is it? Where can I buy it?
How many great stories have been utterly bastardised and ruined by idiots who thought their ideas were better than a much loved classic comic-book or novel?
And how many things have worked precisely because they stuck with and respected the source material?
I rest my case.
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SolarDave Posted on Monday August 4, 2008, 00:57
I honestly think John Barrowman could play Captain America. Give him blond hair like he had in The Producers and he would be perfect. |
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KeithM Posted on Monday August 4, 2008, 11:53
Have you seen Torchwood? He's a bit... hammy (to say the least). |
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FROGZHAT Posted on Tuesday August 5, 2008, 11:30
prob a bit late but how about george eads from csi for cap america |
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Mr Fox Posted on Tuesday August 5, 2008, 12:50
Anybody else thinking Mark Wahlberg...?
(long silence)
Just me then? |
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BethN21286 Posted on Tuesday August 5, 2008, 15:14
With a bit more bulk I think Matthew Fox wouldn't be half bad. I can't imagine him as a blonde but then I couldn't imagine a blonde bond until not too long ago. He's the typical all american and if you can't get people to stop thinking of Aaron Eckhart as good old Harvey then I reckon he's a safe bet. |
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sri5891 Posted on Saturday August 9, 2008, 05:45
I know everyone is saying no British actors... but I think Clive Owen would be perfect. LOOK AT THAT CHIN! |
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SuperDaveHenry Posted on Thursday August 14, 2008, 07:26
I like John Barrymore for the role. Is he American? He plays an American on Torchwood, I believe...is he Canadian maybe? At any rate, that would be my first choice probably. |
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ilander66 Posted on Thursday August 14, 2008, 18:45
John Barrymore? he died over 60 years ago :) you mean John Barrowman He's actually Scottish but lived so long abroad he lost the accent. |
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Van Occupanther Posted on Monday August 18, 2008, 08:39
I said this coming out of the cinema after Iron Man and maintain the opinion. Guy Pearce for cap. |
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MovieGal Posted on Thursday October 16, 2008, 09:27
I agree with Nathan Fillion as a possible to play the captain, I mean he's been dubbed the "Nicest man in hollywood" having the tag "The nicest man in hollywood as the greatest super hero" doesn't sound bad. Plus he does have the body for it.
I was thinking of just on the fly, Dolph Lundren, that guy who played in Rocky and The Punisher. That man has a jaw on him and he has a build the man is FIT, I don't think he is too old ( I don't know how old he is), and it shouldn't matter if he's not American, America is the great melting pot after all. |
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Jayseph Posted on Thursday October 16, 2008, 10:04
For the love of God, not John Barrowman please!! His ego is already monumentous due to a few primetime BBC shows. He certainly doesn't need a Hollywood blockbuster on his CV as well! The guy is an insufferable, attention seeking, snidey little weasel. I originally liked him when I first saw him on Dr Who but I soon realised my error once he started popping up on ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING. His interview on Friday Night With Johnathon Ross where he laid into Janice Dickenson who was sitting in the other room was horrible to watch. He appears to have no class or decency about him whatsoever!! |
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sowasred2012 Posted on Thursday November 13, 2008, 14:28
BRAD BEYER!! |
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blindfold Posted on Thursday November 20, 2008, 11:09
Yes Eckhart seems to be the perfect choice. Depending on the time period.. If we are going into WWII territory then Will Smith would work logically for historical reasons. But then for business reasons is he logically in a place where he wants to share the limelight in the upcoming crossover movie? He is Mega A List and they tend to have the world evolve around their characters... Especially in Blockbuster Material. The Avengers isn't Magnolia (not yet! LOL) (only if a comic book movie could be that well written).
PS- So apparently you think Harvey trwo face migght make it into the next Batman? Didnt the actore go on record saying HE'S DEAD? I Thought that debate was put to rest?
PPS- Obviously it would be great to actually see the character go beyond being Two face for one evening and actually go on to become the crime boss he is. |
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CUrraNT Posted on Thursday November 20, 2008, 19:45
Aaron Eckhart? Why not a Tomas Jane? Was good and in shape for The Punisher, he could do the blonde, but not sure if he could pull off all american hero, although I'd like to be proven wrong, |
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mightyhypnotoad Posted on Friday November 21, 2008, 11:16
Nathan Fillion is disqualified for being Canadian. Jason Lewis would make a better Thor than Cap' what about Josh Brolin or possibly even Adrian Pasdar (Nathan Patrelli from Heroes) That man has a jaw bone structure of unparalleled Captain Americaness and he was in Near Dark which (completely off topic) was an awsome movie. |
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sillitoechris Posted on Thursday November 27, 2008, 15:51
What about Josh Hartnett?
That Jawline could come into good effect and he has shown before that he can do action hero, serious roles and war movies.
I think they would need a proper hollywood actor to carry a hero movie - robert downey jr, ed norton, tobey maguire and christian bale have done great jobs because they are proven hollywood actors (not just hollywood stars) that can cope with the highly emotional aspects of some of these characters instead of just looking cool dodging bullets.... Otherwise Captain America could go the way of the Punisher and Elektra. |
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lpactor Posted on Thursday December 4, 2008, 21:02
NATHEN FILLION. he has done so many heroic roles, such as Captain Reynolds from Serenity and Captain Hammer from Dr. Horrible. i believe that he would be great. he is believable in fight scenes, can play dramatic roles, but can also bring humor to the role, which i think Captain America has to have a little of. he is square jawed and has a natural american accent, even though he's canadian. i believe that he is captain america |
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lpactor Posted on Thursday December 4, 2008, 21:04
and it doesn't matter that he is canadian. he shouldn't be disqualified for that reason |
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Jayseph Posted on Friday December 5, 2008, 15:10
I think Fillion would make an awesome Hawkeye. Maybe they should save him so that he can crop up in a crowd pleasing cameo in The Avengers? |
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mightyhypnotoad Posted on Wednesday December 17, 2008, 14:51
I'm only going by what it said a the top of the article: "There is one rule I’m not willing to bend for Captain America: the actor who plays him must must MUST be American." I think someone might have failed to read the whole post... |
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CIRVIRUS64 Posted on Saturday December 20, 2008, 19:38
Will Smith for Captain America is just plain ridiculous, I don't care what anybody says. I'm not racist, far from it. It just simply doesn't fit the character. Michael Jackson would be better than Smith, and that would just simply be desperate! Whatever will you lot come up with next? Michael Clarke Duncan as Superman? Denzel Washington as the Hulk?
I personally, think a chiselled Gerard Butler with Blonde hair and an american accent would fit the part nicely. |
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Newman_says Posted on Sunday December 21, 2008, 13:25
Very good article.
I was genuinely laughing outloud at the thought of auditioning Patrick Warburton for every role in every movie ever made. It gave me a flash back of 'The Tick' that was long forgotten and welcomed back to the forefront of my mind.
In regards to casting Cap, I would have to agree with Aaron Eckhart who is without question the fiinest actor on the list and the perfect pin up boy for Truth, Justice & the American way... or is that Superman.
Anywho, great actor, maybe too old.
Great article, thanks again.
T. Newman |
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Big Braveheart Posted on Sunday December 21, 2008, 13:49
Hands down it's gotta be Aaron Eckhart. He'd be a great choice, has all the characteristics and look of the Captain and is an all-American hero type. His turn as Harvey Dent / Two-face showed the real quality actor that he is. He's the right age, has THAT chin and can actually act unlike some of these guys on the list, so despite being in a DC movie he could be Marvellous too. Has to be - surely! Brad Pitt no way, McConaughey nah, Smith nope, Big Aaron is the best choice. |
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Jayseph Posted on Monday December 22, 2008, 10:02
If Aaron Eckhart is playing Cap then who we going to cast as Thor then as he'd also be great for that role?
Damn this lack of lantern jawed quality actors! |
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montimer Posted on Tuesday January 27, 2009, 02:17
Alexander Skarsgård - Watch generation kill. You will understand. |
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napier007 Posted on Friday February 6, 2009, 14:19
Montimer - you bugger!
I've been watching Generation Kill thinking Brad "Iceman" Colvert aka Alexander Skarsgård would be a frakking "A" Captain America.
Then I remembered this blog and how I had nothing last time I read it.
Jumped on, scrolled down thinking, yep, no-one else has called him yet. I can take full credit when he gets cast!
And then the last bloody post, there's you - beating me to it!
Still, at least I now know I'm not alone. And please, people, do yourselves a favour and check out "Generation Kill" not just to see the new Captain America, but to see the best TV show since "The Wire." |
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freddie205 Posted on Saturday February 7, 2009, 01:21
Nathan Fillion, not really his thing, but working on the basis that anything involving Nathan Fillion is automatically Awesome. |
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NickossJ Posted on Sunday February 8, 2009, 09:42
I know, what about......Jennifer Garner. Sorry fanboys |
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monkeyboyxv Posted on Monday February 23, 2009, 18:08
Wow - there are some weird suggestions.
Alexander Skarsgård might make a good pre-super-soldier-serum Steve Rogers, but that's about it. What a scrawny weakling! He's gaunt looking, not lantern-jawed.
This guy is supposed to be the ultimate human-being. Not super-powered, but the best human physical specimen of the 7 billion people (or however many there are) on this planet.
Brad Pitt may just be the wrong side of 40 for this role, but then again so is Aaron Eckhardt who many people are putting forward. I think this is mainly because of The Dark Knight, and the fact he played a relatively heroic character - for some of the time - and had the right blone hair thing going on.
But if he can do it, Brad definitely can. It wasn't long ago he was Achilles - not dissimilar in terms of physical specimen. He would need to buff-up again, and they could sort out his hair too. He's got the right sort of acting chops too, but perhaps he's too big a star and would over-shadow the whole thing. All in all, I think he's the best option of the current crop of stars. CA needs a large degree of maturity to convince as the leader and icon - and Pitt as we all know (Benjamin Button) can do the mature, middle aged thing and the younger thing, and has the right hair/eye colouring the physique (if he gets back to Troy level buffness).
Unfortunately however, I don't think Brad - or anyone else anyone has mentioned - would be perfect. It may have to be someone new - like Brandon Routh was in Superman, but hopefully a slightly better actor. Not that Routh was that bad, just that it would be nice if you could combine the perfect look with the acting chops of perhaps someone like RDJ in Iron Man.
But there just isn't that person, that we know of. I'm sure they'll make a good choice though. |
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robert805 Posted on Monday March 16, 2009, 16:44
How about Josh Holloway (sawyer from "Lost") |
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dormill Posted on Wednesday March 18, 2009, 15:14
Jensen Ackles from Supernatural fits the description perfectly. |
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UniqueNewYork Posted on Wednesday April 15, 2009, 17:17
I realise I'm about a month late to this debate, but I was bored at work and started reading through this blog. I got about half way through (there are a LOT of posts) when it hit me who would be perfect as Capt. America.
Kenny Johnson (Lem from The Shield)
He may be a bit old at 45, but he looks a lot younger. He's a big lad, which would be perfect for Capt. America. Not good for Steve Rogers, but no-ones going to beable to cover both without some CGI. He's got the all-american chin, and he could do both lowly grunt and all powerful super soldier.
I'm sold. |
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Cookiedough Posted on Monday April 20, 2009, 21:18
Again, I too am late to the argument and know (next to) nothing about comic books BUT totally agree with Ryan Gosling as the choice. He's not the obvious choice, but that's what makes it so great! He's more than got the acting chops, he's a little bit subversive - with all-American looks - you know it makes sense...
Think Will Smith is fab, but like Tom Cruise, he's almost too big for the role. Is there a Capt Universe or Planet?! (told you I know nothing about comic books)... |
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conradthebarbarian2 Posted on Tuesday April 21, 2009, 00:40
Jason Lewis seriously is captain america. I'm curious as to how the plot will work because they need to tie Cap into the avengers movie with Hulk and Iron Man and eventually Thor and the rest o the gang but... CAP is a world war two hero and Iron Man and all them are from the twenty first century. So what happens in the ULTIMATES comic is: Captain America is frozen in the ice during/after world war two and then thawed (miracles of modern technology) in the twenty first century. So what i wanna know is: will the movie be about Cap in the forties or Cap in the 2000s? Or perhaps half and half? Something to think on. |
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mstiras Posted on Sunday April 26, 2009, 14:12
I know this has been going on for almost a year now, but I had to add my two cents. Adrian Pasdar would have been great but the guy is in his mid forties now. Which I think rules him out. I've come to the conclusion that the best option is Ben Foster. His small role in X-men 3 was little more then a cameo but he was pretty ripped and I think he's capable of getting bigger. He'll be 29 this year which would make him 31 when the first movie comes out, the perfect age to play a guy who is young enough to be a grunt soldier but old enough to provide some moral boosting speeches. He's a small enough name that he wont drawf the fact that it's a Captain America movie and he'd fit in well in any forthcoming Avenger's movie. Also he's American and while I don't agree that the actor needs to be American he would fit in that respect as well. Lastly the guys got some acting chops, his role in 30 days of night was good but even better was his small role in Freaks and Geeks a vastly underrated show. Oh and he looks convincing as a blonde, he pulled it off quite well as Angel. So unless there is a bigger part for him in a possible x-men 4, which i doubt given the fact that Fox seems to be more interested in doing spin-offs around individual characters then another ensemble piece. I think he'd make the perfect Cap. |
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andrasta1 Posted on Thursday April 30, 2009, 01:48
People... What about Matthew Goode? Yeah I know he's English, but look at him! Tall, square jawed, blonde... He can act and I'd say he'd be well fit to lead the Avengers. Check out that steely glare in Watchmen... |
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andrasta1 Posted on Thursday April 30, 2009, 01:50
Ha ha or Michael Cera... He'd be perfect!! Hehe |
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mickeymickmike Posted on Friday May 8, 2009, 03:45
Aaron Eckhart if its a serious movie, Nathan Fillion if it has jokes in it. |
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cabstar Posted on Tuesday June 9, 2009, 12:51
How about the dude from Cloverfield? |
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lukeynemo Posted on Tuesday June 9, 2009, 14:25
One of my friends reading this just suggested John Cena. I'm going to steal his shoes.
Will Smith won't be cvast in this so don't worry. He recently said in an interview that he wants to stretch himself as an actor and try different things, and seeing as he already did Hancock was is still a superhero movie he's unlikely to go for this. Besides even the dumbest studio exec could predict a fanboy boycott.
As for who should play him, Aaron Eckhart. He's not doing another Batman, so sign him up. |
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CoxintheBox Posted on Saturday June 20, 2009, 00:28
Who cares,he's a rubbish character,hopefully the movie bombs. |
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PGporno Posted on Wednesday July 1, 2009, 14:57
Bruce campbell I would nominate him 4 anything though Seriously aaron eckhart would be good |
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VPchild Posted on Thursday July 9, 2009, 14:14
I really think Matthew Fox would be a good choice - but I think he'd probably be a good Captain America but not a good Steve Rodgers.
Has anyone thought of Jensen Ackles from Supernatural - he has the all american swagger. |
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laurel2348 Posted on Thursday July 16, 2009, 23:21
1. Channing Tatum 2. Chris Pine 3. Mike Vogel 4. Henry Cavill (but only to audition and fail at the last hurdle, again.) |
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mikecruz Posted on Tuesday July 21, 2009, 23:12
Anyone but Dane Cook. |
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scottishlegend Posted on Tuesday August 18, 2009, 16:07
ok first of all Paul Walker NNNOOOOOOOO! he is a pointless human being who really cant act i mean come on name ONE film hes has been in that is any good? go on i dare you! its not possible because he is absolutly terrible! rant over
i have read about 90% of the of the comments so this may already have been sugested but what about Kiefer Sutherland, good old indistructable Jack Bauer himself, i know some of you may say he is to short to play the iconic Cap Am (as i thought this myself at first) but lets face it if they can make midget boy Tom Cruise look 6ft tall then it can be done for any one.
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scottishlegend Posted on Tuesday August 18, 2009, 16:17
i do apologise i seem to be on my high horse today |
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kesyer_soze1993 Posted on Tuesday September 1, 2009, 19:10
Jeffrey Nordling, Michael C Hall, Nathan Fillion. Justin Hartley might look the part, but I don't think he has the acting prowess personally. |
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wgfuzzydunlop1 Posted on Friday September 11, 2009, 05:10
Has anyone even bothered to ask what Reb Brown and Matt Salinger are up to these days? No? Well, maybe you should. I'm guessing they'd both appreciate the call.
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Bloodnutt Posted on Sunday September 27, 2009, 17:40
Cole Hauser & Mattew McC would be good choices. Aaron Eckart is too ordinary looking and is defintely tainted by Two-Face.
What about Josh Hartnett? |
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mcmuffin Posted on Saturday October 10, 2009, 14:44
Barry Van Dyke |
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gilahguerilla Posted on Thursday November 5, 2009, 17:41
Clealry Will Smith is near perfection for the role. Can you honestly say you cant imagine Smith as Cap throwing that shield across screen kicking ass? If Smith has shown us, the audience anything over the years its that (most of the time not all the time; Im looking at you Wild Wild West) he can perform and make you believe in his character. I know traditionally Cap is white, Ive read some of the books but look we already have a bunch of Caucasian men running around on screen if all the Avengers form;Banner/Hulk, Stark/Iron Man, Thor, possibly Lang/Ant-man. So hows about some ethnic variety in there at least Smith can act and what better man to say, "Avengers Assemble!" and have the other heroes standing side by side ready to kick ass! |
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xenomorph1991 Posted on Friday December 11, 2009, 09:52
Try Sam Worthington, up-rising star. Marcus Wright. Jake Sully. Perseus. He can do hard-core action and deliver an emotional turn, if they redo Cap for a modern audiene who desire a darker setting, then Worthington could provide the human side to a super-human legend.
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Barry Posted on Friday March 19, 2010, 17:51
Has Michael Fassbender been mentioned?
I think he'd be absolutely brilliant in the role.
AND he's a Kerryman.
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SmithyBoi Posted on Tuesday April 6, 2010, 21:44
Trickey one this , it can't be a black man so it must be someone like Zac Efron. He could make quite a good super hero if he worked out a little and grew some more mucles:L . Someone else like John Cena because in the three films he's made hes done quite a convincing role as a tough , strong quite angry man so being Captin America could help his film carer. |
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SmithyBoi Posted on Tuesday April 6, 2010, 21:46
And just to add i hope the film makers , don't make a huge mistake by picking a non-american to play Captin America! |
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JonRinc2 Posted on Wednesday August 31, 2011, 05:53
Jon Rinc Great movie! Jon Rinc |
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