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lberg was half the master of narrative people hype him up to be he wouldn't have had shitty looking CGI aliens ruin both Indiana Jones and AI or pander to audiences with cop out, saccharin endings that don't make sense (seriously, how did Tom Cruise's son survive the explosion in War of the Worlds and find his way back to his dad?).o Aliens in A.I. They are advanced mecha (ie robots). Probably not wise to criticise narrative you aren't following?
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The quote about lord of the rings needing 12 endings made me laugh, i take it you tried to remove that comment after seeing how stupid the comment was.It does make me laugh when peeps think they know what there talking about but really they have no idea at all.You clearly havent seen LOTR ROTK there fore its advised not to comment on things you havent seen.
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Having gotten over my initial feelings of cynicism towards Spielberg and Jackson, who while being good filmmakers are also two of the most overrated ones, I waited for these images with hope and excitement. However these images have not delivered and as per usual I'm left with a bitter taste in my mouth. What is going to happen is Empire and the rest of the media is going to hype this project up, the films are going to make a lo More
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Having gotten over my initial feelings of cynicism towards Spielberg and Jackson, who while being good filmmakers are also two of the most overrated ones, I waited for these images with hope and excitement. However these images have not delivered and as per usual I'm left with a bitter taste in my mouth. What is going to happen is Empire and the rest of the media is going to hype this project up, the films are going to make a lot of money and a lot of ci More
Posted by Quentin Black at 02:11 on 03 November 2010 | Report This Post |
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Go back to your student quality animation on 3rd rate commercials.
I am disappointed on the pics shown here there, after some 4 years of work I expected something spectacular looking, like a live-action comic strip (guess I'm going to have with Dick Tracy for that), instead all I got here is a another 3D animated film.
I'll have to stick with Dick Tracy then....
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Dev! What the fuck? I'm turning into you! In fact, I'm turning this Pete bashing into my signature accordingly! ong way to go maaaaaaan.
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Dev! What the fuck? I'm turning into you! In fact, I'm turning this Pete bashing into my signature accordingly! ong way to go maaaaaaan.
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Pete, you have grown a number of fans and haters here.ote]
Dev! What the fuck? I'm turning into you! In fact, I'm turning this Pete bashing into my signature accordingly!
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lin! I didn't say anything negative about the poxy shoulders, animation or 3D ! I'm one of the few who seems to like these pictures. t=calibri] t=calibri]Just for the record I'm not an animator but I illustrate and do digital art, so I'm pret More
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Pete, you have grown a number of fans and haters here.ote]
Dev! What the fuck? I'm turning into you! In fact, I'm turning this Pete bashing into my signature accordingly!
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lin! I didn't say anything negative about the poxy shoulders, animation or 3D ! I'm one of the few who seems to like these pictures. t=calibri] t=calibri]Just for the record I'm not an animator but I illustrate and do digital art, so I'm pretty familiar wi More
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Pete, you have grown a number of fans and haters here.ote]
Dev! What the fuck? I'm turning into you! In fact, I'm turning this Pete bashing into my signature accordingly!
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lin! I didn't say anything negative about the poxy shoulders, animation or 3D ! I'm one of the few who seems to like these pictures. t=calibri] t=calibri]Just for the record I'm not an animator but I illustrate and do digital art, so I'm pretty familiar with the human form and More
Posted by pete_traynor at 16:08 on 02 November 2010 | Report This Post |
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I don't really think the style is bad, its just isn't the photo-realism we were promised. Yes they do have a whole year so that may come. I stull can't figure why they needed big name actors when not even a fleck of them is on screen. 135 mil (according to wikipedia) seems very cheap for this movie, but surely getting unknowns for the cast would have been much cheaper and the characters would look the same. More
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gotten over my initial feelings of cynicism towards Spielberg and Jackson, who while being good filmmakers are also two of the most overrated onested for these images with hope and excitement. However these images have not delivered and as per usual I'm left with a bitter taste in my mouth. What is going to happen is Empire and the rest of the media is going to hype this project up, the films are going to make a lot of money and a lot of cinema goers are going to be di More
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an anyone honestly say that these very flawed films would get these ratings from Empire if they weren't made by these big names?unno, but I hope so, as I liked Indy 4, AI, War of the Worlds (I still find it very tense), The Terminal and King Kong. And I'm not sure how objective one can be when reviewing a film. A director I like will always get something of a preference from me.
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Having gotten over my initial feelings of cynicism towards Spielberg and Jackson, who while being good filmmakers are also two of the most overrated ones, I waited for these images with hope and excitement. However these images have not delivered and as per usual I'm left with a bitter taste in my mouth. What is going to happen is Empire and the rest of the media is going to hype this project up, the films are going to make a lot of money and a lot of cinema goers are going to be dissapointed. More
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It is nothing to go with the quailty of the effects, but rather the style that is being used. I had hoped it would be a lot more stylised,but heck - Spielberg, Jackson and a script by Steven Moffat? I'm interested. More
Posted by Rgirvan44 at 22:28 on 01 November 2010 | Report This Post |
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Pete, you have grown a number of fans and haters here. More
Posted by Deviation at 22:21 on 01 November 2010 | Report This Post |
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What in the hell is wrong with you Pig? We are not haters. We have displayed no hate at all. YOU have displayed oodles of hate towards us just for having the opposing opinion. Free speech can't really be described as necessary, it's a right, and the fact is, a majority of people here, are of the opinion that these images aren't very good. If anyone has said 'the film will be bad' that IS wrong, and judging an entire film upon 3 images is stupid, but judging 3 images to be 'crap' based on those More
Posted by crazymoviesdude at 21:19 on 01 November 2010 | Report This Post |
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It's a Mo-Cap film motion capture like Gollum from Lord of the Rings. More
Posted by Bighousewill at 19:14 on 01 November 2010 | Report This Post |
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Ok have to say it has grown on me throughout the day.
And we still have about a year to go dont we?
Edit: The spammer 2 posts below me has 59 posts?? Seriously can you not just ban these accounts as soon as they appear?
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I just don't get it. I am unimpressed with these few images, but more than purely the realism, or lack there of, I'm confused about the need for recognisable actors to play the roles. These images look nothing at all like Jamie Bell and Andy Serkis. Nothing Like. The navi and avatars looked very much like their actors. Even in that there video game, Serkis' character looks subtley like him. Why did they not just pluck some good actors from obscurity and have them play the roles? It would have b More
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tell the rest of us what he's on about then?
wish I knew LOL, Ive tried understanding this in both languages, it's a pretty epic form of literal French->English LOL.
Oh well, back on topic! Had a few more feedbacks from people at lunch time, so far, not good... I wonder if they studio exec will read the forum... ahaha!
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Tantan, your posts are totally unreadable, and you're spamming the forum...
Please, stop.
o be fair he can speak better English than I can French! ote]
I'm French :)
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Tantan, your posts are totally unreadable, and you're spamming the forum...
Please, stop.
o be fair he can speak better English than I can French! ote]
I'm French :)
hat's that got to do with anything?
ell, English is not my first language so I feel that telling him to be careful with his writing is fair enough... and he's been double posting everything, it's a bit annoying. I was mere More
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Tantan, your posts are totally unreadable, and you're spamming the forum...
Please, stop.
o be fair he can speak better English than I can French! ote]
I'm French :)
hat's that got to do with anything? More
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Tantan, your posts are totally unreadable, and you're spamming the forum...
Please, stop.
o be fair he can speak better English than I can French! ote]
I'm French :)
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Tantan, your posts are totally unreadable, and you're spamming the forum...
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Tantan, your posts are totally unreadable, and you're spamming the forum...
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Posted by MarieMJS at 14:19 on 01 November 2010 | Report This Post |
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Yeah just noticed that now. It does look messed up. I was just looking at how good the water looked.My point on mo-cap though was that if they're going to use it at all they can't leave out the use of proper animators, but I do think they could have made this entire film with animators. So don't get me wrong, I hate mo-cap, they just better bring animators in to fix the mess afterwards.ote]
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er, to label these shots sub standard Polar Express I think is pushing it. ote]
Got to agree with that
Iv actually shown a few people at work the Haddock one, and they all seem quite impressed by it actually
Going to wait for a trailer before making up my mind
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Yeah just noticed that now. It does look messed up. I was just looking at how good the water looked.My point on mo-cap though was that if they're going to use it at all they can't leave out the use of proper animators, but I do think they could have made this entire film with animators. So don't get me wrong, I hate mo-cap, they just better bring animators in to fix the mess afterwards. More
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I completely agree. Too many people having a hissy fit over 3 teaser images. You can't possibly get bearing on how good, or bad it's going too be. As an animator though, I hope they're not going strictly mo-cap, but then Peter Jackson is the director who has created 4 films without the usual failings. Mo-cap can only work if they have good animators enhancing the movements and giving the face and eyes life. All I can say is it all looks great so far.&nbs More
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I completely agree. Too many people having a hissy fit over 3 teaser images. You can't possibly get bearing on how good, or bad it's going too be. As an animator though, I hope they're not going strictly mo-cap, but then Peter Jackson is the director who has created 4 films without the usual failings. Mo-cap can only work if they have good animators enhancing the movements and giving the face and eyes life. All I can say is it all looks great so far. In particular, More
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is Spielberg and Jackson where talking about, they won't let poor material out of the edit suite,ote]
Indiana Jones 4 and The Lovely Bones disagree with you.
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On a side note: 'World's Two Biggest Directors'? Think 50% of the pairing would need to be James Cameron in order to claim that title no…
I think what they're implying is "worlds two biggest directors who actually make good movies"
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t’s fallen into place now, that makes sense… More
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I have nothing against Spielberg but I've never loved him as much as I get the impression people think I should, I like Jurassic Park, Minority Report, Schindlers List and bits of his other films but I'm used to not getting excited about Spielberg projects. But, I don't get what it is about Tintin that attracted Spielberg and Peter Jackson to band together on it as a project. Not that I'm saying they won't do a decent job, I just don't get how, with all the properties out there that have the sc More
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On a side note: ‘World’s Two Biggest Directors’? Think 50% of the pairing would need to be James Cameron in order to claim that title no…
I think what they're implying is "worlds two biggest directors who actually make good movies"
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I'm a huge Tintin fan but this does look like a potential disaster. More
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is Spilebrg and Jackson where talking about, they won't let poor material out of the edit suite,ote]
Indiana Jones 4 and The Lovely Bones disagree with you.
/i]I second that...
add this lot to the list of Spielberg's cinematic crimes…t=calibri]War of the worldst=calibri]AIt=calibri]Jurassic Park: The Lost Worldt=calibri]Hookt=calibri] t=calibri]All turds that should never have b More
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is Spilebrg and Jackson where talking about, they won't let poor material out of the edit suite,ote]
Indiana Jones 4 and The Lovely Bones disagree with you.
/i]I second that...
add this lot to the list of Spielberg’s cinematic crimes…t=calibri]War of the worldst=calibri]AIt=calibri]Jurassic Park: The Lost Worldt=calibri]Hookt=calibri] t=calibri]All turds that should never have been unleashed on the pu More
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is Spilebrg and Jackson where talking about, they won't let poor material out of the edit suite,ote]
Indiana Jones 4 and The Lovely Bones disagree with you.
/i]I second that...
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add this lot to the list of Spielberg’s cinematic crimes…t=calibri]War of the worldst=calibri]AIt=calibri]Jurassic Park: The Lost Worldt=calibri]Hookt=calibri] t=calibri]All turds that should never have been unleashed on the public.p; More
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... and there's no point standing in the way of progress.
hen the footage looks worse as digital than it does on film, I wouldn't call it progress. Not talking just about Tintin, but digital in general looks and feels lifeless.
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little early to be so dismissive? It think this looks OK at this stage but they have almost a year of work left on this, so these shots will probably have a considerable amount of work done on them before they hit the screen. I think they retain the intended look of the books rather well and can imagine they look lovely when both in context and motion. They are far from jaw dropping at the moment but as a first look and still so far from release, I think t More
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s is Spilebrg and Jackson where talking about, they won't let poor material out of the edit suite,ote]
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Indiana Jones 4 and The Lovely Bones disagree with you.
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Lovecraft's Tintin, more like. More
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ally cannot see what everyone is getting upset about. They look fine for first shots.]
got another 3-4 months in post to crack it. t="trebuchet ms"]
his is Spilebrg and Jackson where talking about, they won't let poor material out of the edit suite, it's not Uwe Boll making this you know. More
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little early to be so dismissive? It think this looks OK at this stage but they have almost a year of work left on this, so these shots will probably have a considerable amount of work done on them before they hit the screen. I think they retain the intended look of the books rather well and can imagine they look lovely when both in context and motion. They are far from jaw dropping at the moment but as a first look and still so far from release, I think they bode pretty More
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This always seemed a strange choice for me....I was never a Tintin fan (more of an Asterix man myself), dont know anyone who really was. Despite it having Messrs Jackson and Spielberg at the helm, I'll happily give this one a miss. More
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It looks horrible, that cover is barely ok (Milou looks terrible though) but that Haddock pic is scary in a bad way, and that boat one, Haddock's arms looks like a baddly 3D rigged character (hello, shoulders? when you raise your arms, your shoulders go up as well, just sayin...).
I might be a picky 3D animator but seriously, for this kind of project I can't tolerate something barely good, it's either awesome or fail, that falls in the second category...
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