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Human Centipede II Rejected By BBFC
Update: Now with response from Tom Six

07 June 2011  |  Written by Helen O'Hara  |  Source: BBFC

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Human Centipede II Rejected By BBFC

Last year's The Human Centipede was mad, bad and really quite grotesque. But this year's sequel, imaginatively called The Human Centipede II, has been rejected by the British Board of Film Classification on the basis that it is "sexually violent and potentially obscene". This means that the DVD cannot be legally supplied anywhere in the UK.

The original film was released, uncut, as an 18 last year. This one, however, apparently has "unacceptable material" throughout which cannot be remedied with cuts. The filmmakers have six weeks in which to appeal against the decision.

It's worth noting, before we get all up in arms, that this is a relatively rare decision for the BBFC, who outlined their reasons at some length and stressed that the full Board was in on this one. The full reasoning is below - but if you're of a sensitive disposition even this may be rather unpleasant.

"The first film dealt with a mad doctor who sews together three kidnapped people in order to produce the ‘human centipede’of the title. Although the concept of the film was undoubtedly tasteless and disgusting it was a relatively traditional and conventional horror film and the Board concluded that it was not in breach of our Guidelines at ‘18’. This new work, The Human Centipede II (Full Sequence), tells the story of a man who becomes sexually obsessed with a DVD recording of the first film and who imagines putting the ‘centipede’ idea into practice. Unlike the first film, the sequel presents graphic images of sexual violence, forced defecation, and mutilation, and the viewer is invited to witness events from the perspective of the protagonist. Whereas in the first film the ‘centipede’ idea is presented as a revolting medical experiment, with the focus on whether the victims will be able to escape, this sequel presents the ‘centipede’ idea as the object of the protagonist’s depraved sexual fantasy.

The principal focus of The Human Centipede II (Full Sequence) is the sexual arousal of the central character at both the idea and the spectacle of the total degradation, humiliation, mutilation, torture, and murder of his naked victims. Examples of this include a scene early in the film in which he masturbates whilst he watches a DVD of the original Human Centipede film, with sandpaper wrapped around his penis, and a sequence later in the film in which he becomes aroused at the sight of the members of the ‘centipede’ being forced to defecate into one another’s mouths, culminating in sight of the man wrapping barbed wire around his penis and raping the woman at the rear of the ‘centipede’. There is little attempt to portray any of the victims in the film as anything other than objects to be brutalised, degraded and mutilated for the amusement and arousal of the central character, as well as for the pleasure of the audience. There is a strong focus throughout on the link between sexual arousal and sexual violence and a clear association between pain, perversity and sexual pleasure. It is the Board’s conclusion that the explicit presentation of the central character’s obsessive sexually violent fantasies is in breach of its Classification Guidelines and poses a real, as opposed to a fanciful, risk that harm is likely to be caused to potential viewers.

David Cooke, Director of the BBFC said: “It is the Board's carefully considered view that to issue a certificate to this work, even if confined to adults, would be inconsistent with the Board's Guidelines, would risk potential harm within the terms of the VRA, and would be unacceptable to the public.

“The Board also seeks to avoid classifying material that may be in breach of the Obscene Publications Acts 1959 and 1964 (OPA) or any other relevant legislation. The OPA prohibits the publication of works that have a tendency to deprave or corrupt a significant proportion of those likely to see them. In order to avoid classifying potentially obscene material, the Board engages in regular discussions with the relevant enforcement agencies, including the CPS, the police, and the Ministry of Justice. It is the Board’s view that there is a genuine risk that this video work, The Human Centipede II (Full Sequence), may be considered obscene within the terms of the OPA, for the reasons given above."

Update:
We emailed Tom Six for a response to the BBFC's decision and received the following quote, which we present here in full. The censoring of the F-word, ironically, is Six's.

“Thank you BBFC for putting spoilers of my movie on your website and thank you for banning my film in this exceptional way. Apparently I made an horrific horror-film, but shouldn't a good horror film be horrific? My dear people it is a f****cking MOVIE. It is all fictional. Not real. It is all make-belief. It is art. Give people their own choice to watch it or not. If people can't handle or like my movies they just don't watch them. If people like my movies they have to be able to see it any time, anywhere also in the UK.”

So there you have it. What do you think: saving us all from ourselves or censorship gone too far? Or do you even care that we won't be able to see this particular opus? Speak your brains below...


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ause we try to make our world a better place I firmly believe that there should be limits; if only to help protect our children. What will be next? Children raping children whilst eating Granny's faeces, gunnning down blind people and raping them whilst shitting on the heads? Then torturing their parents and then raping them. Then making them eat their shit? What does it say about us? How have we come to this? Sure, there will always be sick sick people in this world. There always have b More

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I'm glad that Sallys abuse and certain long-standing forumites' obsession with offensive but semi-erudite word-play didn't cause this thread to get pulled. Both sides have made decent points. I can understand someone saying that their right to watch this, ahem, film shouldn't be obstructed in any way but as notmyrealusername implied, because of what it is we are watching, there needs to be a line. Harsh, but true. We don't want rape and murder and nutjob psychos in our world, but we have More

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L: piddy77 So how does the BBFC justify putting up a certificate for 'A Serbian Film' (admittedly with 4 minutes of cuts) which is a lot more realistic and horrific than the fantasy world of the Human Centipede films ? I don't get it...does it depend what mood they are in on the day. The spokesman's statement for the BBFC condones a lot of subversiveness, most of which appears in 'A Serbian Film' so what gives? think the difference between A Serbian Film and THC2 (or what we've heard o More

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RE: Rejected By BBFC
I'm going to side against the BBFC on this one. The first film wasn't as bad as I'd expected and definitely wasn't that goty, it was mainly just a disgusting (and original) concept. With part 2, is's clear that the decision wasn't based on actual gore content but the fact that the film places the viewer in the protagonist's shoes regarding the sexual violence, which is a big BBFC no-no and why they're stricter on video games. It's contradictory for them to say that they only ban More

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L: alsybroth And as for 'cultural fascist mary whitehouse loving pussy', what typical pseudo-liberal child talk coming from someone who's defending a dumb film just because its banned. I'm neither liberal nor conservative but I have no problem with the BBFC's banning of this film. And I'm serious, if you regard films where its literally never-ending sexual degradation including barb-wire rape, sandpaper masturbation and forced feces-eating as your kind of entertainment - fuck you. I ca More

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L: superdan L: Epiphany Demon All I know is that if this isn't being shown, where does that leave my sophomore effort "How To Destroy A Tyrannosaur's Vagina In Five Easy Steps"? don't know, but I think it explains why I've had trouble getting a distributor for "The Baby Who Ate His Way Out" The Baby Who Ate His Way Out" but that comes out November 18th....it's distributed by Summit.... Any ways, personally I found HC1 to be really dull, the trailer was more exciting More

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L: alsybroth I'm amazed people are getting riled up over the banning of this film. Take China; I remember reading about the films made in their own native country were banned and the filmmakers restricted from working for years because those films conflicted with their political agendas. The banning of films like those should always be criticized, most of them are truly about something and have artistic merit. Whereas The Human Centipede 2 is about a psycho who sexually degrades and tortu More

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L: Spaldron L: BoDixen L: adambatman82 L: BoDixen ark we have a ratings system, not censorship. ver we do have distributers and exhibitors who decide which movies goes in theaters and ends up on DVDs etc. We are a smaller market so some untransparent censorship could be going on. But then again could we actually censor anything in the country of Muhammed cartoons. nap. The BBFC haven't censored anything, they've ruled it uncertifiable. The BBFC are not More

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L: alsybroth L: Discodez L: alsybroth I'm amazed people are getting riled up over the banning of this film. Take China; I remember reading about the films made in their own native country were banned and the filmmakers restricted from working for years because those films conflicted with their political agendas. The banning of films like those should always be criticized, most of them are truly about something and have artistic merit. Whereas The Human Centipede 2 is about a p More

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L: Ref L: adambatman82 L: Ref And by banning THC II it's not like we'll be missing out on a brilliantly acted, well-written plot anyway. ow do you know? link=http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQiUKh9TCt I3zbSQu3EU7na3VuZzd7r1_Bv0sjbIZUbkhIjLNI4&t=1]Not sure if serious.3.gif] eah I'm being serious. How do you know what we're missing out on, if you haven't seen it? For all we know it could be "brilliantly acted" and "well written", but my point is that More

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L: Discodez L: alsybroth I'm amazed people are getting riled up over the banning of this film. Take China; I remember reading about the films made in their own native country were banned and the filmmakers restricted from working for years because those films conflicted with their political agendas. The banning of films like those should always be criticized, most of them are truly about something and have artistic merit. Whereas The Human Centipede 2 is about a psycho who sexuall More

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L: Invader_Ace www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/arts-%26-entertainment/film -censor-'excluding-monstrous-perverts-from-mainstream-s ociety'-201106083924/ote] evitable consequence is that people who use their hard earned money to watch films about a mad scientist setting fire to his penis while eating a big plate of microwaved human excrement are somehow seen as being a bit weird.":D] More

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L: adambatman82 L: Ref And by banning THC II it's not like we'll be missing out on a brilliantly acted, well-written plot anyway. ow do you know? link=http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQiUKh9TCt I3zbSQu3EU7na3VuZzd7r1_Bv0sjbIZUbkhIjLNI4&t=1]Not sure if serious.3.gif] More

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L: Spaldron Isn't The Devils still banned? sp; No..   I had a look at the BBFC website to see what films had been rejected in recent years.   There's "Murder Set Pieces" and "Grotesque" - which were rejected for the same reasons as HC2 (but are available on Amazon.) A fetish film that seems to have forgotten to demonstrate that consent was given by the participants and a few video guides on growing cannabis and magic mushrooms. More

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L: alsybroth I'm amazed people are getting riled up over the banning of this film. Take China; I remember reading about the films made in their own native country were banned and the filmmakers restricted from working for years because those films conflicted with their political agendas. The banning of films like those should always be criticized, most of them are truly about something and have artistic merit. Whereas The Human Centipede 2 is about a psycho who sexually degrades and tortur More

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L: BoDixen L: adambatman82 L: BoDixen ark we have a ratings system, not censorship. ver we do have distributers and exhibitors who decide which movies goes in theaters and ends up on DVDs etc. We are a smaller market so some untransparent censorship could be going on. But then again could we actually censor anything in the country of Muhammed cartoons. nap. The BBFC haven't censored anything, they've ruled it uncertifiable. The BBFC are not censors, they are a c More

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I'm amazed people are getting riled up over the banning of this film. Take China; I remember reading about the films made in their own native country were banned and the filmmakers restricted from working for years because those films conflicted with their political agendas. The banning of films like those should always be criticized, most of them are truly about something and have artistic merit. Whereas The Human Centipede 2 is about a psycho who sexually degrades and tortures innocent victim More

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L: adambatman82 L: BoDixen ark we have a ratings system, not censorship. ver we do have distributers and exhibitors who decide which movies goes in theaters and ends up on DVDs etc. We are a smaller market so some untransparent censorship could be going on. But then again could we actually censor anything in the country of Muhammed cartoons. nap. The BBFC haven't censored anything, they've ruled it uncertifiable. The BBFC are not censors, they are a classification boa More

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L: jobloffski Perhaps the BBFC should revise their statement to: The film did not make us want to masturbate, but it made us think (and shudder at the thought) that there may be people walking around who would i]to masturbate to it. Such people (who we would not want to meet and sincerely hope we don't already know) can still get hold of the film from somewhere else in the world. Although we cannot stop that happening, we have saved ourselves being subjected to an insane amount of More

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Posted by adambatman82 at 12:17 on 09 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE: Ego Trip
Perhaps the BBFC should revise their statement to: The film did not make us want to masturbate, but it made us think (and shudder at the thought) that there may be people walking around who would i]to masturbate to it. Such people (who we would not want to meet and sincerely hope we don't already know) can still get hold of the film from somewhere else in the world. Although we cannot stop that happening, we have saved ourselves being subjected to an insane amount of press malarkey over 'h More

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I was with him until he suggested giving it the 18R and making it available only through Licensed sex shops, which may, just have been the very best way of causing the film to have whatever effects the BBFC seems to have been afraid of, if the film then seems to be available where you buy wanking material to suit your tastes...Hell, make that the plot for HC3...man wanks over a film of a man wanking over a filmretentious mode: I think I can actually ]the artistic intent behind HC2. The second More

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Interesting article in Guardian. More

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L: waltham1979 L: sillitoechris i'm not saying that it is neccessarily so much worse than other films, like saw and hostel (i did say that it probably doesn't deserve to be withdrawn). ............................... the thing is - it clearly (according to the BBFC) IS a lot worse than these films and does need to be removed .... I havent seen any of the saw films all the way thru - this genre doesnt appeal to me (i have seen hostel tho - so I can get the jist More

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L: BoDixen ark we have a ratings system, not censorship. ver we do have distributers and exhibitors who decide which movies goes in theaters and ends up on DVDs etc. We are a smaller market so some untransparent censorship could be going on. But then again could we actually censor anything in the country of Muhammed cartoons. nap. The BBFC haven't censored anything, they've ruled it uncertifiable. The BBFC are not censors, they are a classification board. More

Posted by adambatman82 at 23:21 on 08 June 2011 | Report This Post

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In Denmark we have a ratings system, not censorship. However we do have distributers and exhibitors who decide which movies goes in theaters and ends up on DVDs etc. We are a smaller market so some untransparent censorship could be going on. But then again could we actually censor anything in the country of Muhammed cartoons. More

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L: Deviation I love this thread SO SO SO SO SO MUCH.  've been whacking off over this thread. With barb wire wrapped around my schlong. More

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L: BADWOLF ld have all future films banned for saying "AN horrific film".THC was a horrible exercise in disgusting the audience. THC2 sounds even worse. There really is no need to plumb those depths. Civilized society needs standards, and these fall way short. You're not trying to criticise his perfectly correct use of the Englsh language are you? More

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RE: Banned? -_- pffft!
L: Notmyrealusername L: Spaldron Just reading some of the above you would think the Daily Mail readership had hijacked this thread. ow, what an oversimplified generic statement. but then it is much easier to belittle those who agree with the BBFC decision by insinuating theyre conservative prudes. From what the BBFC said it didnt just not meet their guidelines, they actually think it may be obscene. Yes thats right....a film that can be classified as obscene in 2011. Th More

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Why censorship is needed
Some people have tried arguing how the BBFC can determine whether a film is suitable for them. But how can you determine if a film is suitable for you? Watch it yourself? But if you do that and it turns out the film wasn't suitable...too late, you've just watched a film you determined not suitable for yourself. Hence, we need something like the BBFC to give us some guidelines. More

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RE: Ego Trip
L: sillitoechris i'm not saying that it is neccessarily so much worse than other films, like saw and hostel (i did say that it probably doesn't deserve to be withdrawn). ............................... the thing is - it clearly (according to the BBFC) IS a lot worse than these films and does need to be removed .... I havent seen any of the saw films all the way thru - this genre doesnt appeal to me (i have seen hostel tho - so I can get the jist) its the rule of m More

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RE: Ego Trip
i'm not saying that it is neccessarily so much worse than other films, like saw and hostel (i did say that it probably doesn't deserve to be withdrawn). ............................... the thing is - it clearly (according to the BBFC) IS a lot worse than these films and does need to be removed .... I havent seen any of the saw films all the way thru - this genre doesnt appeal to me (i have seen hostel tho - so I can get the jist) its the rule of more more more - more blood More

Posted by sillitoechris at 12:46 on 08 June 2011 | Report This Post

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This is clearly the beginning of  new wave of "video nasties". It was only matter of time before the boundaries were pushed even further. But I would be interested to see whether the reviewers and movie buffs who fought to get these out in the 80's, make of these films? More

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L: NadaPlissken Down with this sort of thing. areful now More

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RE: Ego Trip
L: Rockin Ricky Rialto L: gorshkov He's obviously got the attention he's wanted and all the better he's managed to make himself a victim of circumstance. But as a wannabe filmmaker i don't feel all that much remorse. All he's "achieved" is put stuff on screen that's more disgusting than anything else prior to it, which he's obviously proud of: www.youtube.com/watch?v=an1H_XH9XIg&feature=player_ embeddedrip) hat video is from 2010 (as it says just below the clip). A More

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Down with this sort of thing. More

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RE: Ego Trip
L: Deviation L: Rockin Ricky Rialto L: gorshkov He's obviously got the attention he's wanted and all the better he's managed to make himself a victim of circumstance. But as a wannabe filmmaker i don't feel all that much remorse. All he's "achieved" is put stuff on screen that's more disgusting than anything else prior to it, which he's obviously proud of: www.youtube.com/watch?v=an1H_XH9XIg&feature=player_ embeddedrip) hat video is from 2010 (as it says just b More

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RE: Ego Trip
L: Rockin Ricky Rialto L: gorshkov He's obviously got the attention he's wanted and all the better he's managed to make himself a victim of circumstance. But as a wannabe filmmaker i don't feel all that much remorse. All he's "achieved" is put stuff on screen that's more disgusting than anything else prior to it, which he's obviously proud of: www.youtube.com/watch?v=an1H_XH9XIg&feature=player_ embeddedrip) hat video is from 2010 (as it says just below the clip). A More

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L: Deviation I love this thread SO SO SO SO SO MUCH.  his ^ More

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RE: Ego Trip
L: gorshkov He's obviously got the attention he's wanted and all the better he's managed to make himself a victim of circumstance. But as a wannabe filmmaker i don't feel all that much remorse. All he's "achieved" is put stuff on screen that's more disgusting than anything else prior to it, which he's obviously proud of: www.youtube.com/watch?v=an1H_XH9XIg&feature=player_ embeddedrip) hat video is from 2010 (as it says just below the clip). And yet again, what are the Sa More

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He never called his film art. Also, I want to watch it now, just to be called a dick for simply watching it.  More

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I'm starting to think that instead of slagging them off, Tom Six should be buying the BBFC a Marks & Spencers hamper, or at least a big bouquet of flowers and some All Gold. If it wasn't for them no-one would be talking about his probably-piece-of-shit movie. More

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the most delicious part of this whole debate is that total film have gotton on their high horse about how theyre not fans of censorship, yet any swear words posted in their comments section are automatically changed to asterixs. total film - for those occasions when the shop at the train stations run out of empire More

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On a personal level, the film doesn't appeal to me - but then I'm not much of a horror fan anyway (not sure I'd want to see that sandpaper scene either On a more objective level ,whilst I don't necessarily agree with the decision (banning a film on subjective / taste grounds), I think not certifying the film was probably all that the BBFC could do. I guess they have guidelines that they have to follow, and when something comes along like this, I'm not sure they were left with much choice. Whe More

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RE: Banned? -_- pffft!
L: Notmyrealusername L: Spaldron Just reading some of the above you would think the Daily Mail readership had hijacked this thread. ow, what an oversimplified generic statement. but then it is much easier to belittle those who agree with the BBFC decision by insinuating theyre conservative prudes. From what the BBFC said it didnt just not meet their guidelines, they actually think it may be obscene. Yes thats right....a film that can be classified as obscene in 20 More

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RE: Banned? -_- pffft!
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Posted by Rockin Ricky Rialto at 19:41 on 07 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE: Banned? -_- pffft!
L: Spaldron Just reading some of the above you would think the Daily Mail readership had hijacked this thread. ow, what an oversimplified generic statement. but then it is much easier to belittle those who agree with the BBFC decision by insinuating theyre conservative prudes. From what the BBFC said it didnt just not meet their guidelines, they actually think it may be obscene. Yes thats right....a film that can be classified as obscene in 2011. This coming from the BBF More

Posted by Notmyrealusername at 19:07 on 07 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE: Banned? -_- pffft!
I personally don't care, that said I have learnt some interesting things about what sort of porn is available now having read this thread. More

Posted by sanchia at 18:30 on 07 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE: Banned? -_- pffft!
L: Spaldron Just reading some of the above you would think the Daily Mail readership had hijacked this thread rtaining though. More

Posted by superdan at 18:09 on 07 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE: Banned? -_- pffft!
doesnt it just? I am totally not a daily mail reader but jesus - when the description of a movie is enough to turn your stomach and then defended as art by the jerkoff director and every knob who likes seeing people raped and tortured for fun-times..... well screw me for getting my back up! More

Posted by sillitoechris at 18:09 on 07 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE: Banned? -_- pffft!
Just reading some of the above you would think the Daily Mail readership had hijacked this thread. More

Posted by Spaldron at 18:02 on 07 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE: Banned? -_- pffft!
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahaha! is varkko seriously defending The Human Centipede 2 as art? LMFAO! 'Dont judge me with 'your definition of normal' whilst I jerk off to a woman being raped with barbwire' - get a life mate More

Posted by sillitoechris at 17:57 on 07 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE: Banned? -_- pffft!
No. The is not art. Art should provoke, certainly, and yes offend in many cases. But what is the rationale for this? What sort of statement is this supposed to make? Is this the social commentary of our day? That our lives are so monotonous that we have to seek glorification in sexual torture and murder? Horror films are not my cup of tea and I have no intention of seeing this or the original, but Jesus there are some things that as a society we should draw a line at. If he can argue his c More

Posted by skinfreak at 17:40 on 07 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE: unbelievable
people keep saying "they cant decide for me what I can watch" and "i dont believe in censorship" Such broad statements can only work in a black and white world. And are as pointless and naive as the polar opposite view where all violent and sexual acts are banned. But the world isnt black and white, its murky shades of grey. Obviously the extreme example would be a film consisting entirely of actual rape footage with no artisitic merit and designed purely for the sexual titil More

Posted by Notmyrealusername at 17:27 on 07 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE: Original not very good anyway
Im not sure if the argument about - 'let us decide' is completely watertight.... can we honestly believe taht just having anything out there in teh public domain is acceptable - people may say 'they can see it on the internet' but were not talking about the internet - were talking about having this on shelves in dvd rental shops and peoples shelves at home..... by condoning these sorts of movies and putting them in the open we are supporting their production and encouraging people to More

Posted by sillitoechris at 17:07 on 07 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE: Tom Six IS a fucking idiot.
L: Macavity r people it is a f****cking MOVIE." Tom Sixilly man. 'Fucking' censored only has two stars. I'm more shocked by his BLATANT CENSORSHIP. More

Posted by nutteronabus at 16:20 on 07 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE: RE:
Chudmonkey I for one would love to see both movies (just waiting for HMV to knock the price down on HC1) and A Serbian Film (although that's quite cheap now...must get round to picking it up). Party at Chudmonkeys later? More

Posted by sillitoechris at 16:07 on 07 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE:
It is art? Funny how people can claim anything as art ... To be fair to the BBFC and as the article states - they dont do this very often anymore - and seeing as none of us have seen the movie we can only assume it must be apretty unpleasant f+-king film to warrant this ban .. so good on em! To say a horror films only redeeming factor is that it needs to be horrific? and deserves to be seen? Ridiciulous! - this is not a documentrya where horrific images can be classed as inof More

Posted by sillitoechris at 16:01 on 07 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE:
Basically I agree with all Tom Six says. Whilst the subject matter may not be my cup of tea, I'd much rather decide for myself if it's suitable for me to watch. From the BBFC spoilers I probably wouldn't have watched this, but as it is a work of pure fiction I shouldn't be told that I can't view it. The first film (which I have seen) was nowhere near as graphic or sick as some will claim, presumably people who haven't actually seen it, much in the same way that people condemning this lat More

Posted by skeletonjack at 15:44 on 07 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE:
L: kpenga why did he use 4 stars to cover just 1 letter? ecause it's the only time he'll get 4 stars for a film? I'll get me coat More

Posted by Ulmaceae at 15:41 on 07 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE: Let's not get carried away
L: ChudMonkey It seems to me people are getting their knickers in a twist over a handful of scenes picked out by the BBFC - who's to say the whole movie isn't the next Reservoir Dogs f it were a "handful of scenes", the BBFC would have identified these to the Director for them to be amended, allowing Tom Six to to get a certificate to distribute. From the BBFC's statement, it seems to be more than a "handful of scenes" More

Posted by Ulmaceae at 15:28 on 07 June 2011 | Report This Post

Let's not get carried away
for a start no-one on here has actually seen the film so all this hyperventilating over how sick and depraved it is is a moot point - you really can't criticise something until you've seen it. If I remember correctly there was a lot of ho-ha about the first film by the way it was described in the press but as many people have stated on here once you actually watch the movie it's not actually that graphic (much like Texas Chain Saw Massacre, Child's Play, Hostel, Saw etc aren't nearly as repuls More

Posted by ChudMonkey at 15:18 on 07 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE:
L: paulmitchell Hang on a fucking minute winkle, the film is an 18 cert. I am 43 going on 12,I will make my own mind up whether to watch this shite or not,I am responsible enough to know right from wrong,sometimes.please disagree with me someone sp; Totally agree with this...     More

Posted by Discodez at 14:32 on 07 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE: Who funded this?
Can't believe my post got deleated and you kept most of the other off topic shite in?! took me fookin ages!! Bastards!! Anyway my point was along the lines of glad they've banned the film. Bad taste for the sake of bad taste; the director thinks it's 'art'?! He needs therapy!! When are we gonna draw the line with movies...!? Who finds this shit entertaining?? more concerned about how de-censorised as a civilized society we are becoming when bollocks like this is even argued as something pe More

Posted by waltham1979 at 13:42 on 07 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE: Forced Defecation??
L: benskelly L: superdan Is it actually illegal to own these films in the UK, or is it just illegal for them to be sold/distributed/broadcast? It seems a bit unlikely you'd get fined or go to jail for owning a piece of fiction. Also, lol at the notion of America being a paragon of liberalism. My mum was there a couple of weeks ago and it was illegal to buy a beer on a Sunday in the state she was in. I'll take fractionally stricter movie censorship over that shit any day /qu More

Posted by superdan at 12:04 on 07 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE: meh.
I don't agree with censorship BUT the description of the stuff in Human Centipede 2 just boggles my mind as to why anyone would want to watch this shit? and to the prick of a Director claiming it's art! Fuck Off, you didn't film this as "art" you just tried to come up with the sickest thing you could think off and filmed it, to stir up controversy and then pull the "but it's art" bullshit. I haven't watched A Serbian Film, and have no intention to do so because I can't see why anyone would More

Posted by Rawbeard at 12:04 on 07 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE: The Human Centipede II Rejected By BBFC
I'll watch anything once... but reading that made me feel a bit sick. More

Posted by MoBiUGeArSkIn at 11:58 on 07 June 2011 | Report This Post

Tom Six IS a fucking idiot.
r people it is a f****cking MOVIE." Tom Sixp; Silly man. 'Fucking' censored only has two stars. More

Posted by Macavity at 11:43 on 07 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE:
Im a big horror fan but the mere thought of Human Centipede First Sequence made my stomach turn and by reading about the details of this sequel I dont understand how you can class it as entertaining to watch this level of depravity....we all know that things like this go on and that there are some very sick individuals out there but I dont believe that it has a place within the realms of entertainment....it is taking the genre too far....Horror doesnt need to have this level of brutality! More

Posted by tattoodobby at 11:43 on 07 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE: meh.
I realise that my opinion will not be a popular one, but I totally agree with censorship and in this case the banning of this film. Whilst I don't believe that watching violent and graphic films creates serial killers and rapists, I do think that our society it becoming more and more desensitised to violent and sexual imagery. Films such as this are being made as entertainment or art- What does that say about our society's moral standing? This isnt about freedom of speech it is just not right. More

Posted by littlemoog at 11:22 on 07 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE: Banned? -_- (sigh) get a grip.
I don't tend to agree with censorship, but I do think the BBFC do a pretty excellent job. It is exceptionally rare that they refuse to give a certificate to something, and when they do it's because they feel that the film invites the audience to either cause harm or to get off on violent acts. HC2 would seem to fall into the latter category. Judging from the BBFC's statement, the film presents extreme sexual violence as something to enjoy and get off on. Hey, I might be wrong, but that's what i More

Posted by TrendMeUp at 08:11 on 07 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE: Banned? -_- (sigh) get a grip.
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Posted by The_Grin at 07:24 on 07 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE: meh.
I've been up far too late reading about all this.   I'm off to bed with some sandpaper. More

Posted by Schnorbitz at 05:04 on 07 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE: meh.
L: Squidward Hark Bugle does the BBFC have such a big problem with headbutts?Peter Pand Matrixth had cuts made to them for this reason, and the cut version of r Pan the one that went through to the rest of Europe and Australia. Annoying. omething to do with 80's football hooligans. And Glasgow. More

Posted by Spaldron at 03:17 on 07 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE: meh.
Why does the BBFC have such a big problem with headbutts? r Pand Matrixth had cuts made to them for this reason, and the cut version of r Pan the one that went through to the rest of Europe and Australia. Annoying. More

Posted by Squidward Hark Bugle at 03:15 on 07 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE: meh.
L: benskelly L: Rockin Ricky Rialto So what have we learned from this thread? 1. Not many people like HC. 2.Canadians are mean. 3. No one likes the Director of HC. 4. RAPE IS NOT GOOD OR FUNNY!. 5. A Serbian Film is pretty darn horrrible. 6. The BBFC are good at their jobs to a degree. 7. Most people on here won't be watching HC2 anytime soon. 8. Most people on here don't want to watch HC2. Thank you /quote] All of which is completely and utterly irrelev More

Posted by Rockin Ricky Rialto at 02:10 on 07 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE: meh.
L: Rockin Ricky Rialto So what have we learned from this thread? 1. Not many people like HC. 2.Canadians are mean. 3. No one likes the Director of HC. 4. RAPE IS NOT GOOD OR FUNNY!. 5. A Serbian Film is pretty darn horrrible. 6. The BBFC are good at their jobs to a degree. 7. Most people on here won't be watching HC2 anytime soon. 8. Most people on here don't want to watch HC2. Thank you /quote] All of which is completely and utterly irrelevant to the topic of More

Posted by benskelly at 02:04 on 07 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE: meh.
So what have we learned from this thread? 1. Not many people like HC. 2.Canadians are mean. 3. No one likes the Director of HC. 4. RAPE IS NOT GOOD OR FUNNY!. 5. A Serbian Film is pretty darn horrrible. 6. The BBFC are good at their jobs to a degree. 7. Most people on here won't be watching HC2 anytime soon. 8. Most people on here don't want to watch HC2. 9. Some people will create an account just to moan about a film that they are not intrested in anyway and will never see More

Posted by Rockin Ricky Rialto at 01:57 on 07 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE: meh.
I'm surprised by the large number of posts advocating the censorship of a movie solely because they don't like the subject matter. This website/forum is dedicated to film and surely any film censored in its entirety should be lamented, especially if the same film passes the the censors in different countries. If you find the subject matter too much for you then here's an idea, don't watch it, don't let your children watch it, but surely all the other adults should have the right to make th More

Posted by charlien at 00:46 on 07 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE: Rejected By BBFC
L: sidecarsally . What's weird about the R rating? In the states, they have R and NC-17 (which some theaters won't play). I prefer "Unrated" myself because even NC-17 can be censored. But some movies like Anti-Christ I was surprised even got NC-17 (thought it should've been Unrated because it was so explicit). R is for movies with violence, swearing, sex, or all of the above. NC-17 is for excessive amounts of those, and Unrated is for movies like ackson's Dead Aliveich is just RIDICU More

Posted by Spaldron at 00:42 on 07 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE: One More Time
L: kenada_woo L: benskelly Here is a completely sincere question... What year did you see THE TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE (1974) and how did you see it? ust have been 98-99 when it got a proper theatre release over here hahaha. I was doing work experience at a cinema LOL But the story of that film and its censorship in the UK is another one of those tussles with the local authority and the BBFC. Its was release for a whole year in London before being pulled and then re- More

Posted by benskelly at 23:58 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE: !?
L: sidecarsally] The Human Centipede has no rape, no sexual abuse, and no extremely graphic scenes. It's about one mad scientist's idea. It's a modern day Frankenstein movie. Since you haven't seen it and don't want to, let me spoil the ending: The most graphic scene in the movie is when the mad scientist gets shot in the head. That's right, the bad guy even dies in the end.f you read the BBFC synopsis apparently the second one does, that's why they feel it is inappropriate. I really More

Posted by Loosecrew at 23:52 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE: One More Time
L: benskelly Here is a completely sincere question... What year did you see THE TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE (1974) and how did you see it? ust have been 98-99 when it got a proper theatre release over here hahaha. I was doing work experience at a cinema LOL But the story of that film and its censorship in the UK is another one of those tussles with the local authority and the BBFC. Its was release for a whole year in London before being pulled and then re-released and pulled More

Posted by kenada_woo at 23:46 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE: One More Time
L: kenada_woo But nowdays, as its easier to purchase anything online...it seems a bit of a non-debate and the only people losing out are the films distributors themselves who cant get their film sold or even sold widely. air point. The internet trumps everything - and makes anyone trying to control people look foolish. More

Posted by benskelly at 23:42 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE: One More Time
Here is a completely sincere question... What year did you see THE TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE (1974) and how did you see it? More

Posted by benskelly at 23:37 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE: One More Time
L: benskelly L: kenada_woo L: benskelly You seem to be missing the point... Here's the line from the article: "This means that the DVD cannot be legally supplied anywhere in the UK." There is NO. SUCH. BANNING. IN. THE. USA. You can go on and on about the MPAA and how films can't get a rating or they can't get distribution or they go without a rating and they can't get an ad in a certain newspaper...none of this MAKES IT ILLEGAL to buy a certain film. More

Posted by kenada_woo at 23:36 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE: One More Time
Well on the bright side, not making it available means I don't have to pay to see this shit. I can steal it instead. Ole! More

Posted by UTB at 23:33 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE: One More Time
L: kenada_woo L: benskelly You seem to be missing the point... Here's the line from the article: "This means that the DVD cannot be legally supplied anywhere in the UK." There is NO. SUCH. BANNING. IN. THE. USA. You can go on and on about the MPAA and how films can't get a rating or they can't get distribution or they go without a rating and they can't get an ad in a certain newspaper...none of this MAKES IT ILLEGAL to buy a certain film. There's a subtle di More

Posted by benskelly at 23:30 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE: One More Time
L: benskelly You seem to be missing the point... Here's the line from the article: "This means that the DVD cannot be legally supplied anywhere in the UK." There is NO. SUCH. BANNING. IN. THE. USA. You can go on and on about the MPAA and how films can't get a rating or they can't get distribution or they go without a rating and they can't get an ad in a certain newspaper...none of this MAKES IT ILLEGAL to buy a certain film. There's a subtle distinction there. LOL. More

Posted by kenada_woo at 23:20 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE: One More Time
And the American might win this round. I hate it when that happens, so don't let it happen.  More

Posted by Deviation at 23:17 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE: Forced Defecation??
L: benskelly L: elab49 That's just semantics - call it what you will it comes down to whether or not you can pop to the local fleapit and see the film. When you can't it's because a bunch of secretive unaccountable 'experts' have passed a rating without being open about the decision or the process or a system that sees films 'not picking up distribution deals' or being cut upfront to get a rating. 's an open and accountable body who are completely transparent in the More

Posted by kenada_woo at 23:00 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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