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Whedon not involved = bad idea

26 May 2009  |  Written by Helen O'Hara  

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It's a cold and rainy day, and we can only assume that that's because the Man Upstairs is also a fan of Buffy the Vampire Slayer (the TV show) and is depressed at the thought that a remake of 1992's Buffy the Vampire Slayer is headed to the big screen - without the involvement of character creator Joss Whedon.

 Yes, rights-holders Fran Rubel Kazui and Kaz Kazui want to return Buffy to the big screen in a remake or reboot of her story. The pair bought the rights to Buffy from a then-unknown Joss Whedon in 1992, and were credited as executive producers through the show's run after Fran Rubel Kazui directed the 1992 Kirsty Swanson film of the same name: the one that everyone generally tries to pretend isn't actually associated with the beloved Sarah Michelle Gellar-starring TV franchise.

The remake / reboot / whatever isn't set up at a studio as yet, and the Kazui's haven't invited Whedon to be a part of their enterprise. They're also not planning on using any of the show's supporting characters or 'Scooby Gang', possibly because the rights issues relating to those characters are more complicated.

There's a suggestion that the fact that "into every generation a slayer is born" will allow easy rebooting of what we're assured will be a "darker, event-sized movie with franchise potential". But frankly if the Slayer's called Buffy then this is the same generation and has the potential to trample over the show's world and alienate fans as a result (unless they Maru-nate it, of course).

The Kazuis are working with Vertigo Entertainment's Roy Lee and Doug Davison on the proposed film, and are currently meeting with writers (hey! We know one you could try: his initials are J.W.). We try hard to stay open-minded around here, but this has all the symptoms of a Bad Idea. Or are we being too harsh?


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RE: Guess what guys.
Yeah but they took a brilliant script and made it funny when it should have been scary and visa versa.  And it was far too camp! I can watch it and I do like Swanson but the TV show pisses all over it. More

Posted by theoriginalcynic at 22:44 on 27 May 2009 | Report This Post

RE: Guess what guys.
Not really though. Obviously all two of us liked the film. The show is ace but the film is not as bad as peeps make out. For me it was my first introduction to Buffy. I said this in another thread but (deep breath) I actually prefer Swanson as Buffy. She had the whole valley girl thing down and Gellear, well she was very thin... More

Posted by The REAL Bozz at 21:38 on 27 May 2009 | Report This Post

RE: Guess what guys.
L: cenaris You're all going to flame me for this, I'm sure. I was unaware of the movie before I watched the TV series. Guess what? I enjoyed the movie more than the entire how many seasons that were milked out. Buffy should have stayed as the amusing, cheesy and tongue-in-cheek movie. The TV series was completely unsessasary in my opinion. A movie reboot of a movie that a TV series reboot? Not sure on this. I'll sit it out and see what happens. Flame Shield: ON! sp; Well More

Posted by theoriginalcynic at 21:34 on 27 May 2009 | Report This Post

RE: NO
scifiwire.com/2009/05/a-new-buffy-movie-theres.php wouldn't mind if they had a new cast ala Star Trek but without Joss??? I won't be watching this if Whedon isn't involved.  Ideally I want the original cast too but that's not gonna happen.  I guess they think it would cost too much.  This is gonna be like all those horrible movie sequels example S.Darko.  We should start a petition against this movie but I'm sure someone's doing that as we speak... More

Posted by theoriginalcynic at 21:33 on 27 May 2009 | Report This Post

RE: Scooby
Get Swanson back! That's what I say!!! More

Posted by The REAL Bozz at 21:27 on 27 May 2009 | Report This Post

Scooby
I have to say the tv show rocked the world for many of fans.. If anything you sholud bring it back with the old cast or just leave it as it is.. i would like to see a movie with geller and all the rest.. if Whedon's not being part of it it will be crap. Please dont let Fran Rubel Kuzui do another film without Whendon. More

Posted by spacedou7 at 13:57 on 27 May 2009 | Report This Post

I'll see it but I don't think it will be a good idea
A remake of the original is probably the safest option (make more in line with the accepted canon) but it would make more sense to simply carry on the series' storylines. She slayer myth is a good set up at the end of the series all the potential slayers became slayers. So the film could simply be about the new girls finding their way in the world. ILERScolor=#009900]don't forget to post spoiler warnings please. Cheers, Harry.] More

Posted by brokenking at 13:49 on 27 May 2009 | Report This Post

Very bad idea
I got excited until I heard the idiot who directed the original movie was behind it all. Very, very bad idea. More

Posted by Caster at 10:50 on 27 May 2009 | Report This Post

Oh dear... not again
I will say that like everyone else here, I think this is a bad idea and I had wondered if something like this might come up after Twilight came out. However, I really felt that Buffy on TV got stale for me. I just couldn't watch it after a while. The show started off so energetic and above all, it was fun. When I decided I didn't want to watch anymore I had reached a point when I wanted to kill myself after each episode. It was just so depressing, I got sick of everyone whining all the time. Tha More

Posted by kellymburgess at 08:14 on 27 May 2009 | Report This Post

Yuck
Never did see the first and not about to see the next More

Posted by nybras at 01:41 on 27 May 2009 | Report This Post

The worst idea...
since someone decided to let Gary Glitter open his local school fayre! More

Posted by GypsyTrash at 00:22 on 27 May 2009 | Report This Post

if anything you're not being harsh enough. i can't imagine there not being a big fan backlash if they just tried to do their own thing with it. there's such an established universe (continuing in the comics) for by anything else. More

Posted by Knight of Fury at 23:10 on 26 May 2009 | Report This Post

The worst idea in the history of bad ideas!
I'd like to write a witty and vitriolic response to this unfathomable decision but I have been rendered virtually speechless with dispair at the prospect. :-( More

Posted by Yorkshirebint at 22:33 on 26 May 2009 | Report This Post

sh*t idea
Leave it alone! Enough said. More

Posted by davidjthomson at 21:10 on 26 May 2009 | Report This Post

Boo & hiss
Leave the show alone. It is no secret that those producers had nothing to do with the tv show whatsoever & were only credited because they owned the rights (on account of making the mediocre movie, based on the great **original** script). Whedon's show gave it soul, a universe, a right to exist. Watching Buffy and the spin-off Angel gives a sense of a carefully crafted mythology that is near complete. Just leave it as it is & enjoy the comics. Not always as good as the show, but funny &a More

Posted by moviemaniac-7 at 21:06 on 26 May 2009 | Report This Post

RE: Duh.
L: Angelus A fucking awful idea that reeks of post-Twilight desperation. w it, I know it - there's two more of them to go so we're stuck with it! More

Posted by Sphinx at 20:51 on 26 May 2009 | Report This Post

Geller
Com'n the tv show is legend and except Anthony Head and Sarah geller ain't no one from that show is doing shit so we need to do it!!!!!! Bring theTV show to the big screan it'll be legendary More

Posted by Director at 18:13 on 26 May 2009 | Report This Post

RE: Worst Idea Ever
I've only just found out about this...             Fucking hell. More

Posted by kingalan at 18:05 on 26 May 2009 | Report This Post

Worst Idea Ever
What a shockingly bad idea... not just from a creative standpoint but also from a financial standpoint. Bringing Buffy to the big screen is an utterly genius idea - if you get the original cast back and Mr Whedon in charge then you have a guaranteed fanbase of everyone who watched the TV series while it was on, and everyone who picked up on it after when the DVD sets came out... plus they'd sell the original series to a whole new fanbase as well. To do a standalone "reboot" just plai More

Posted by Cooper73 at 17:48 on 26 May 2009 | Report This Post

Why God Why??!!
I've never seen the first movie and I certainly wouldn't want to see this one they are proposing. Why do people always insist on ruining a good thing?! I loved the the TV show and even more so because it didn't drag on for the sake of it. It told the story it wanted to and didn't continue just because it still had good ratings and wanted to keep the cash coming in. It ended on a high note as all shows should but rarely do. That's how I want to leave Buffy, content that it was all it needed to be More

Posted by swedishblue at 17:47 on 26 May 2009 | Report This Post

RE: Buffy To Return To The Big Screen?
I can't really see anybody thinking this is a good idea....... One of the reasons that Buffy worked so beautifully as a TV show is that the characters grew and evolved over the 7 seasons, which is something that just couldn't be done over the course of a movie. And anyway, without Whedon's prescence the whole thing is doomed before it begins, since his and long running writers like Jane Espenson or Marti Noxon's creative input made the series what it was. Even though the movie has fuzzy nostalg More

Posted by Fliblet at 17:13 on 26 May 2009 | Report This Post

Guess what guys.
You're all going to flame me for this, I'm sure. I was unaware of the movie before I watched the TV series. Guess what? I enjoyed the movie more than the entire how many seasons that were milked out. Buffy should have stayed as the amusing, cheesy and tongue-in-cheek movie. The TV series was completely unsessasary in my opinion. A movie reboot of a movie that a TV series reboot? Not sure on this. I'll sit it out and see what happens. Flame Shield: ON! More

Posted by cenaris at 17:01 on 26 May 2009 | Report This Post

WTF?
What is the point of this? I know the original film sucked balls but the TV series was as good a reboot as anyone can ever hope for so why ruin it by starting again? And if this turns out to be anything like Twilight then I'll probably hit something, preferably either Fran Rubel or Kaz More

Posted by SuperKing at 16:27 on 26 May 2009 | Report This Post

Noooooooooooo!
This the worst idea ever!The original film was an absolutely dire bit of cinematic poo and is pretty unwatchable. MAking a film about Buffy without Joss Whedon's imput is like making the tea and not putting any water in it n- it's the bloody essence of the drink! Maybe I am being unfair but I think that this will be another bit load of steaming poo. If they wanted to do a reboot they might want to wait another 20 years... More

Posted by baby_jane at 16:01 on 26 May 2009 | Report This Post

What ???
As a Buffy fan i have been waiting for a reboot since the end of the 7th season, but this is just WRONG !! no Whedon, no original cast, no point !! what they need to do is let Whedon take the drivers seat and show us what happened to the scooby gang after the series finale, thats the movie the fans want to see !! reboots and remakes are starting to really get on my tits More

Posted by cianboyne at 15:55 on 26 May 2009 | Report This Post

...
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwww ww. More

Posted by Chedderzz at 15:54 on 26 May 2009 | Report This Post

The only way I can see this working is them remaking the original movie, showing why Buffy had to leave her old school and suchlike. Or maybe showing us what happened when she left at the end of season two - or was it three? Otherwise, you need to have the original Scooby gang with her, the show may have been called Buffy but it was about all of them. And without Joss, it's just the worst idea I can imagine. More

Posted by deathbat6661 at 15:26 on 26 May 2009 | Report This Post

WTF!! You got to use the cast from the show if you do a Buffy film. No Whedon, No SMG. = No Point!! More

Posted by jediwarrior at 14:35 on 26 May 2009 | Report This Post

terrible More

Posted by Daniel_House_Lost at 14:27 on 26 May 2009 | Report This Post

I'm in agreement here... A buffy movie is a good idea... but a Buffy movie fromt he TV series, reuniting the show's cast with mr whedon and doing it that way. Anythign else, as said, if the slayer's called buffy and it's neither sarah michelle gellar or whedon... no one will want to know and it wont work. By all means they could just call it the Vampire Slayer and reboot it that way and fine... whole new feel and tone and everythign else works. but not like this. I like to try to be the op More

Posted by Adrian at 13:58 on 26 May 2009 | Report This Post

YES YES YES YES YES!
lolz only jokingz guyz Do a Dollhouse film instead? More

Posted by joey14c at 13:41 on 26 May 2009 | Report This Post

NO
Absolutely not! Without Joss Sarah or the rest of the gang - not interested. Star Trek worked a treat because it dealt with the original characters 45 years after the original and they revamped the universe in a clever way - impossible without Joss More

Posted by gaybuffy at 13:35 on 26 May 2009 | Report This Post

Very bad idea
Why can't peolpe leave things alone? Buffy will be ruined if it is remade/rebooted with or without Joss! It would totally eradicate 7 brilliant years of quality TV. Why not a Buffy movie set after season 7 taking in storylines form the series 8 comics? Now that would be a smart move. Hopefully this film won't happen and even if it does I hope that Joss knows well enought to stay out of it. He's moved on (Doll House is fantastic). We all know what happens when much loved franchises are fucked wit More

Posted by Tom Sanderson at 13:35 on 26 May 2009 | Report This Post

No Joss? No Buffy
You can't do Buffy without Joss, simple as that. I will cry if they ruin tihs :( More

Posted by peeka85 at 13:16 on 26 May 2009 | Report This Post

what are they playing at not getting the whedon involved? More

Posted by vivlitherland at 12:48 on 26 May 2009 | Report This Post

RE: NO WAY!
I'm a huge Buffy fan and as much as I loved the TV series I think even a movie involving Joss Whedon would be a mistake. The show itself lost a lot of what made it popular in the last couple of seasons when eveything took a "darker" turn. Let Buffy rest I say. The best way to invigorate the show and bring in the Twilight-mad tween audience who missed it the first time around would be to put the re-runs on the BBC. After all, isn't Edward Cullen just Angel-lite? More

Posted by Rocks Your Socks at 12:47 on 26 May 2009 | Report This Post

NO WAY!
I absolutely loved the tv-show. It is a beautifull story, not just about fighting monsters and vampires. It's also a story about the problems we all face when we are growing up. I love the main characters and I also would like to see them back on the screen. No other actors and no other writer then Josh Whedon could keep up with the high level of this succesfull tv-show! In short: KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF BUFFY THE VAMPIRESLAYER! More

Posted by tejo at 12:20 on 26 May 2009 | Report This Post

Hell No
This is the worst idea EVER, you can't make a film that FORGETS the TV series, that surely blasphemy! I'm a huge fan of the show and the fans need to stop this right now! More

Posted by Dr Manhattan at 12:13 on 26 May 2009 | Report This Post

A world of no
Isn't anyone getting a sense of Deja Vue?? Buffy s made by the actors, the friendships, the Buffy-speak, the tone, mess with that it wont work. Not that it even should, Buffy (the proper Buffy) is still going strong in graphic novel form and, well just no Horrible visions of Hayden whatsername or Megan Fox in the role causes sad face. More

Posted by popcornadict at 11:37 on 26 May 2009 | Report This Post

Buffy On Big Screen?
No Joss Whedon attached = no Buffy to big screen. Simples! More

Posted by AquaDragon2K at 11:27 on 26 May 2009 | Report This Post

NoNoNoNoNoNoNO!!!!!
It's only been a couple of years since the show was on the box! How long will it be before they reboot the reboots at this rate? As for getting a new generation of viewers - isn't that partly what DVD is for - so it, you know, kinda sticks around for people who missed it on telly?! I Bought the Prisoner on DVD because I wasn't alive when it came out, that didn't need a remake... oh, hang on... More

Posted by GreatScott!!! at 10:55 on 26 May 2009 | Report This Post

RE: tweentastic
Dr.Science.   Maybe people are naive about integrity, but I also think the producers are naive in thinking they can make buffy minus Joss Whedon a success.   Whedonites on the interwebs will stir up such a storm of hate for this project, there will be no tomorrow. No matter what people say we are in the age of the geek and they have  a lot of power. More

Posted by BoDixen at 10:42 on 26 May 2009 | Report This Post

No Joss. No film. Simple as that.
A Buffy remake and Whedon not involved, madness. These people jumping on the Twilight bandwagon...Twilight was bloody awful. More

Posted by Bill Clay at 10:26 on 26 May 2009 | Report This Post

RE: Buffy To Return To The Big Screen?
Bloody hell on fire! I'm one of those people who watched Buffy the TV show from day one without having heard of the 1992 film before hand. I loved the TV show and would have loved to see Buffy in a full blown feature on our silver screens. But isn't it a little too late now? If they felt really really inclined to go ahead with this idea, and if they had any signs of sanity, I personally think they should bring Joss Whedon on board. After all, it is his story, and it is him that made Buffy what More

Posted by onyx79 at 10:25 on 26 May 2009 | Report This Post

No Joss. No film. Simple as that.
A Buffy remake and Whedon not involved, madness. These people jumping on the Twilight bandwagon...Twilight was bloody awful. More

Posted by Bill Clay at 10:19 on 26 May 2009 | Report This Post

tweentastic
most of you guys are so naive - it's like you think integrity is worth something in hollywood - integrity results in nothing but autograph appearances at fan conventions. Someone else hit the nail on the head when they mentioned Twilight - this is quite clearly a teen-vampire-craze cash-in - there is a massive PG-13 audience who missed out on Buffy and and they're not going to have any sentimental preconceptions. You never know - this might make a bag full of box office. But if the original Kaz More

Posted by Dr Science at 10:17 on 26 May 2009 | Report This Post

RE: Buffy To Return To The Big Screen?
This is an absolutely terrible idea! I'm sure that Whedon has said before that the original film made a mockery of his idea, turning it into a 'comedy' when he wanted something more like the TV show then was, more dramatic, more action. I very much doubt he's been consulted about this but I can't imagine he'll be happy in the slightest, especially as he's still continuing the Buffy story in graphic novel form. More

Posted by satanbob at 10:11 on 26 May 2009 | Report This Post

RE: Duh.
A fucking awful idea that reeks of post-Twilight desperation. More

Posted by Angelus at 09:59 on 26 May 2009 | Report This Post

RE: Duh.
Terrible idea, Fucking Terrible. Please let this be nouthing but a rumour. More

Posted by Scruffybobby at 09:46 on 26 May 2009 | Report This Post

Duh.
You know, I've never been a fan of Buffy at all. Ever. Nor Joss Whedon. I think he's way WAY overrated as a writer. But this sounds like a pretty damned thick idea even to me. You don't fix something if it ain't broken and lets face it, it's been a very successful concept and the team who worked on the show made it what it is. Not only that, but a lot of people love the damned thing as it was. Why cock something up for no reason other than a lack of imagination to create from scratch? Ho More

Posted by jimoakley666 at 09:34 on 26 May 2009 | Report This Post

Oh god
From the mugs that ruined Whedon's original idea in the first place?! The film is so staggeringly poor it was a miracle the excellent tv show was ever made. The TV show is one of the best of all time and the supporting characters are what made it so fantastic. If they wanted a movie they should have done one during the time when it was on TV or a spin off with one of the popular characters like Angel or Spike, but even that would be a stretch. Leave it alone! More

Posted by BOOOM at 09:18 on 26 May 2009 | Report This Post

Noooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!
Fran Rubel and Kaz, Please shove this idea up your KAZUI! More

Posted by ryecatcher at 09:14 on 26 May 2009 | Report This Post

RE: Boooo
Couldn't we have another Firefly movie instead?? More

Posted by haffy73 at 08:58 on 26 May 2009 | Report This Post

RE: Boooo
Bad idea. The 1992 film is a perfect example of horrible 90's cinema, and what could potentially happen by removing whedon and letting Kuzui get her mits all over it again. The show was great, leave it at that, and let are good memories go untarnished. Though in response to someone saying that nobody would go see it, I probably would, out of pure damage factor curiousity. More

Posted by Daniel Kelly at 08:54 on 26 May 2009 | Report This Post

Boooo
The Buffy/Whedon following is too cult to allow this to be a success without his involvement in some way. Surely the fans are too loyal, at least I'd hope so. Fair enough if they'd approached Whedon and he'd said no, but this reads like he hasn't even been consulted. More

Posted by discodave101 at 08:50 on 26 May 2009 | Report This Post

Whedon or no Whedon
I hate to be the one to say this, but regardless of Whedon's involvement I would never go see a freakin' Buffy Movie!! More

Posted by Mikkel Drewsen at 08:46 on 26 May 2009 | Report This Post

I just died inside...
seriously, not really overexaggerating. Even with Joss I would feel unsafe about a movie buffy for it ended quite greatly. And without Joss, that's just terrible. Like, a catastrophe. Do they not realize that Joss is god! If they are going to make this, he has to be involved. Second problem: No Scooby Gang? Fuck this shit. More

Posted by mosephland at 08:43 on 26 May 2009 | Report This Post

Depressing but not surprising...
I'm guessing these muppets have nothing else in development and no properties anyone wants to see, and are grabbing at straws. The first film had a little snappy dialogue, drippy uninteresting direction, uninteresting junior stars and was generally the waste of space Big Joss must have worried it might become I don't plan on seeing this... A Buffy film from JW - now that would attract millions! More

Posted by The Voice of Fate at 08:33 on 26 May 2009 | Report This Post

No Joss....
No fucking movie!!!!!! More

Posted by tallaght24 at 08:32 on 26 May 2009 | Report This Post

Nay, nay and thrice nay
Potentially one of the worst ideas in the whole history of bad ideas. Buffy was neither dead nor moribund, and therefore not in need of reinvention. It just ended. It is too soon to reinvent the show with a new group, and to do so without Joss - well, despite efforts to ignore the first film we still have the evidence of what happened when his vision was interfered with. The Kuzai's should save themselves a lot of grief. Either bring Joss in or go find another toy to play with. More

Posted by RobertBush1969 at 08:27 on 26 May 2009 | Report This Post


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