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RE: Chris Nolan. can he be considerded as one of Briti... - 15/8/2012 9:33:06 PM   
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Does it even matter if he never makes a British film? No.


What about The Following?

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RE: Chris Nolan. can he be considerded as one of Briti... - 16/8/2012 9:21:04 PM   
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 Isn't The Dark Knight trilogy/Inception considered a US/UK co-production? Syncopy Films is based in Britian.

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RE: Chris Nolan. can he be considerded as one of Briti... - 16/8/2012 10:04:02 PM   
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Isn't The Dark Knight trilogy/Inception considered a US/UK co-production? Syncopy Films is based in Britian.


And?

If Saving Private Ryan was made by a UK company that would make it a US/UK film?

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RE: Chris Nolan. can he be considerded as one of Briti... - 16/8/2012 10:13:03 PM   
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 Not really, it would be a British film because no USA companies were involved. If companies from both countries were involved in the making or financing of thing, the maybe, it could be considered both US and UK. Ex: Harry Potter.

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RE: Chris Nolan. can he be considerded as one of Briti... - 16/8/2012 10:42:39 PM   
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Not really, it would be a British film because no USA companies were involved. If companies from both countries were involved in the making or financing of thing, the maybe, it could be considered both US and UK. Ex: Harry Potter.


The film company has no effect on determining the nationality of a film. If Ukraine financed Saving Private Ryan it would still be a US film. It's directed, written, stars and is set in America.
That's more of a factor than who gave the money to finance it.

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RE: Chris Nolan. can he be considerded as one of Briti... - 16/8/2012 10:49:09 PM   
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If Ukraine financed Saving Private Ryan it would still be a US film. It's directed, written, stars and is set in America.



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RE: Chris Nolan. can he be considerded as one of Briti... - 16/8/2012 10:53:54 PM   
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RE: Chris Nolan. can he be considerded as one of Briti... - 16/8/2012 10:58:24 PM   
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 Your argument falls down itself even more with the rest of your statement. If a nationality of a film is decided by who directs it - Nolan is British, who writes it - Nolan is British, who stars in it - Bale, Hardy, Oldman and Caine are all British, Cotillard is French. So you have Freeman, JGL and Hathaway and setting for America. By the logic you're using it's more British than American.

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RE: Chris Nolan. can he be considerded as one of Briti... - 16/8/2012 10:59:41 PM   
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Not really, it would be a British film because no USA companies were involved. If companies from both countries were involved in the making or financing of thing, the maybe, it could be considered both US and UK. Ex: Harry Potter.


The film company has no effect on determining the nationality of a film. If Ukraine financed Saving Private Ryan it would still be a US film. It's directed, written, stars and is set in America.
That's more of a factor than who gave the money to finance it.


And that's why Shame and We Need to Talk About Kevin are considered US films (fitting some of your definitions from which nation a movie should be considered to be) while Green Street Hooligans and Coppola's Dracula only a British one...oh no wait, they aren't.

You do realize there are a number of UK actors, crew and writers in TDKR right? So even by your definition, it would be a joint UK/USA production.

Also, what do you mean by setting? The Devil's Double has American actors, European financiers and it is set completely in Iraq with a few scenes in Malta.

And, and very few scenes are set in the USA in Saving Private Ryan. Believe or not, that was Europe.


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RE: Chris Nolan. can he be considerded as one of Briti... - 16/8/2012 11:02:32 PM   
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Your argument falls down itself even more with the rest of your statement. If a nationality of a film is decided by who directs it - Nolan is British, who writes it - Nolan is British, who stars in it - Bale, Hardy, Oldman and Caine are all British, Cotillard is French. So you have Freeman, JGL and Hathaway and setting for America. By the logic you're using it's more British than American.


'Batman' is an American character and story. It's even set in America. It will always be American regardless of the people involved in the film.


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RE: Chris Nolan. can he be considerded as one of Briti... - 16/8/2012 11:05:12 PM   
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Your argument falls down itself even more with the rest of your statement. If a nationality of a film is decided by who directs it - Nolan is British, who writes it - Nolan is British, who stars in it - Bale, Hardy, Oldman and Caine are all British, Cotillard is French. So you have Freeman, JGL and Hathaway and setting for America. By the logic you're using it's more British than American.


'Batman' is an American character and story. It's even set in America. It will always be American regardless of the people involved in the film.



So now it's got nothing to do with who directed it, wrote it or stars in it?

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RE: Chris Nolan. can he be considerded as one of Briti... - 16/8/2012 11:12:49 PM   
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Your argument falls down itself even more with the rest of your statement. If a nationality of a film is decided by who directs it - Nolan is British, who writes it - Nolan is British, who stars in it - Bale, Hardy, Oldman and Caine are all British, Cotillard is French. So you have Freeman, JGL and Hathaway and setting for America. By the logic you're using it's more British than American.


'Batman' is an American character and story. It's even set in America. It will always be American regardless of the people involved in the film.



So now it's got nothing to do with who directed it, wrote it or stars in it?


I feel like mentioning a certain film but I don't want to offend an ally.

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RE: Chris Nolan. can he be considerded as one of Briti... - 16/8/2012 11:14:14 PM   
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Your argument falls down itself even more with the rest of your statement. If a nationality of a film is decided by who directs it - Nolan is British, who writes it - Nolan is British, who stars in it - Bale, Hardy, Oldman and Caine are all British, Cotillard is French. So you have Freeman, JGL and Hathaway and setting for America. By the logic you're using it's more British than American.


'Batman' is an American character and story. It's even set in America. It will always be American regardless of the people involved in the film.



So now it's got nothing to do with who directed it, wrote it or stars in it?


The character, creator, setting, accents, crew and actors vs director, writer and actors.

It comes down to which side has more factors.


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RE: Chris Nolan. can he be considerded as one of Briti... - 16/8/2012 11:22:34 PM   
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 Which makes TDKR a joint production. Case closed. It's more American surely (especially with those American flags flying around and the stadium scene), but a British element is there to give the UK factor some credit.

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RE: Chris Nolan. can he be considerded as one of Briti... - 16/8/2012 11:27:10 PM   
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Which makes TDKR a joint production. Case closed. It's more American surely (especially with those American flags flying around and the stadium scene), but a British element is there to give the UK factor some credit.


So is Never Let Me Go a joint production because the director is American?

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RE: Chris Nolan. can he be considerded as one of Briti... - 16/8/2012 11:37:25 PM   
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Which makes TDKR a joint production. Case closed. It's more American surely (especially with those American flags flying around and the stadium scene), but a British element is there to give the UK factor some credit.


So is Never Let Me Go a joint production because the director is American?


But Never Let Me Go is considered a joint project, not only for the director but also because of Fox Searchlight, who had a big hand in releasing and financing it.


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RE: Chris Nolan. can he be considerded as one of Briti... - 17/8/2012 11:49:35 AM   
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Not really, it would be a British film because no USA companies were involved. If companies from both countries were involved in the making or financing of thing, the maybe, it could be considered both US and UK. Ex: Harry Potter.


The film company has no effect on determining the nationality of a film. If Ukraine financed Saving Private Ryan it would still be a US film. It's directed, written, stars and is set in America.
That's more of a factor than who gave the money to finance it.



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Your argument falls down itself even more with the rest of your statement. If a nationality of a film is decided by who directs it - Nolan is British, who writes it - Nolan is British, who stars in it - Bale, Hardy, Oldman and Caine are all British, Cotillard is French. So you have Freeman, JGL and Hathaway and setting for America. By the logic you're using it's more British than American.


'Batman' is an American character and story. It's even set in America. It will always be American regardless of the people involved in the film.



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You more than most it seems.

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RE: Chris Nolan. can he be considerded as one of Briti... - 17/8/2012 5:08:58 PM   
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What about John Carter of Mars?

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RE: Chris Nolan. can he be considerded as one of Briti... - 17/8/2012 5:24:30 PM   
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What about John Carter of Mars?


Indeed. Also In Bruges, Midnight in Paris and The Italian Job.

Belgian, French and Italian films I take it?

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RE: Chris Nolan. can he be considerded as one of Briti... - 17/8/2012 10:33:00 PM   
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RE: Chris Nolan. can he be considerded as one of Briti... - 18/8/2012 1:17:35 AM   
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 Saving Private Ryan is set in America?

Welcome to geography for the warped, kids.

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RE: Chris Nolan. can he be considerded as one of Briti... - 18/8/2012 2:07:06 AM   
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Saving Private Ryan is set in America?



That's cause America is totally like a Nazi country under gun stealer Obama.

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RE: Chris Nolan. can he be considerded as one of Briti... - 18/8/2012 10:22:42 AM   
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That's cause America is totally like a Nazi country under gun stealer Obama.



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RE: Chris Nolan. can he be considerded as one of Briti... - 18/8/2012 4:37:23 PM   
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Well, duh, obviously that's a Martian film.

I particularly like the biggest grossing Pandoran film of all time.


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RE: Chris Nolan. can he be considerded as one of Briti... - 18/8/2012 5:05:04 PM   
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Doesn't it use the same cultural test as the relevant film bodies to determine a film's national status? Or is that too simple/sensible.

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RE: Chris Nolan. can he be considerded as one of Briti... - 30/9/2012 5:07:45 AM   
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 I've always thought that the nationality of a film should be determined by the country in which the studio (or studios) which have financed it and which release it are based. Or is that just too blindingly obvious?

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RE: Chris Nolan. can he be considerded as one of Briti... - 23/11/2012 2:13:44 PM   
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 Christopher Nolan's films are dark, moody, and hence boring as hell. I'm exaggerating of course, but you get the drift. Where's the fun?

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RE: Chris Nolan. can he be considerded as one of Briti... - 24/11/2012 7:18:02 PM   
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 The thread sems to have veered somewhat off topic, so in terms of the original question, NO. Definitely not.

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RE: Chris Nolan. can he be considerded as one of Briti... - 24/11/2012 7:53:12 PM   
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RE: Chris Nolan. can he be considerded as one of Briti... - 24/11/2012 10:30:18 PM   
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 The only British film he's ever made and will ever make is The Following. Which is bad for even a student film.

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